Amongst some notes from past members of the family I found reference to a Joan Gurr, in Victoria Australia. She is my cousin and does any one know how she or her family might be traced. She is also related to the Noakes family via her grandmother. Any help to establish contact appreciated. Joan's sister Mary, lives in Australia but her surname is not known. What a conundrum - he who tries sometimes gets results Michael E Lucas SFHG 12279