Hello to all, I have recently started to look into my families history on my fathers side, being Grosvenor. My grandfathers name was Frederic Charles Bertram Ferdinand GROSVENOR. He was born in Brighton I believe in 1894. His fathers name was Joseph Ferdinand (engineer) and his mothers name was Emily. He moved to Australia and joined the Australian Army on the 5th October 1916. He married Sylvia Madeline Neave in Western Australia on the 19th February 1920. He was then 25yrs old and she was 24yrs old. They lived in Collie in Western Australia where they had 3 daughters (Norma, Joan and Joy) and 1 son (Gordon). He is my father. Frederic Grosvenor died in Western Australia in 1949. My family has no information about him prior to the marriage. The only information I have been able to find out about Frederic is from his war service record in Australia. He listed his trade as Motor Mechanic. His fathers address is listed as Joseph Ferdinand Grosvenor of 2 Patham Terrace, Preston Sussex England. I have checked census records but have not had any luck finding the family. Ideally I would like to find out whether Frederic had any brothers or sisters? Any help you might be able to give me would be greatly appreciated. thanking you all the way from Melbourne, Australia. Sharon

Dear Sharon, I have just had a quick look at the records, and as you say, there doesn't seem to be anyone who fits, especially as you would expect to find your grandfather in the 1901 census with his family. I tried various names you have given, and only came up with an Emily with a husband Frederick who were in their fifties in 1901 and several children, one of whom was Frederick aged 15. There was another Frederick born 1894 but he was born and lived in Worcestershire, with a father called Thomas. No doubt you have looked at these and many others. Given the lack of information, I think you have to look at the possibility of your grandfather having to some extent reinvented himself and his family when he came to Australia. It wouldn't be the first time that has happened! My grandmother's information seems to be different on every document I have found, including her given names changing around 1900, her maiden name, her age (several years younger than she really was) and her marital status at the time she married my step-grandfather. She claimed to be a widow, to cover the fact that my father was illegitimate, and that was the reason for variations on her maiden name too of course. Good luck and sorry I can't suggest anything else at this stage. Eleanor (also in Melbourne) On 27 Jun 2008, at 15:56, Sharon Grosvenor wrote: > > Hello to all, > > > I have recently started to look into my families history on my fathers > side, being Grosvenor. > > My grandfathers name was Frederic Charles Bertram Ferdinand > GROSVENOR. He was born in Brighton I believe in 1894. His fathers > name was Joseph Ferdinand (engineer) and his mothers name was Emily. > He moved to Australia and joined the Australian Army on the 5th > October 1916. He married Sylvia Madeline Neave in Western Australia > on the 19th February 1920. He was then 25yrs old and she was 24yrs > old. They lived in Collie in Western Australia where they had 3 > daughters (Norma, Joan and Joy) and 1 son (Gordon). He is my father. > Frederic Grosvenor died in Western Australia in 1949. My family has > no information about him prior to the marriage. > > The only information I have been able to find out about Frederic is > from his war service record in Australia. He listed his trade as > Motor Mechanic. His fathers address is listed as Joseph Ferdinand > Grosvenor of 2 Patham Terrace, Preston Sussex England. > > I have checked census records but have not had any luck finding the > family. > > Ideally I would like to find out whether Frederic had any brothers or > sisters? > > Any help you might be able to give me would be greatly appreciated. > > thanking you all the way from Melbourne, Australia. > Sharon > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

For what it`s worth, I`ve just checked FreeBMD and found that there were no Grosvenor births in Sussex between 1890 and 1900. There were 2 male Grosvenor marriages in Brighton between 1870 and 1890 Frederick in Q4 1873 who could well have married an Emily Carpenter. And Charles in Q4 1875. There were 12 births in Sussex between 1870 and 1890 all in Brighton, Now I have personal experience that FreeBMDs records are not complete even when they appear to be so, HTH Joe Austen 9934 in the good old land of OZ, where those of us that live in the more civilised parts of the country are enjoying temperatures of up to 16-26c eventhough it`s midwinter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Grosvenor" <babashaz@bigpond.com> To: <SFHG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 3:56 PM Subject: [SFHG] Grosvenor family > > Hello to all, > > > I have recently started to look into my families history on my fathers > side, being Grosvenor. > > My grandfathers name was Frederic Charles Bertram Ferdinand > GROSVENOR. He was born in Brighton I believe in 1894. His fathers > name was Joseph Ferdinand (engineer) and his mothers name was Emily. > He moved to Australia and joined the Australian Army on the 5th > October 1916. He married Sylvia Madeline Neave in Western Australia > on the 19th February 1920. He was then 25yrs old and she was 24yrs > old. They lived in Collie in Western Australia where they had 3 > daughters (Norma, Joan and Joy) and 1 son (Gordon). He is my father. > Frederic Grosvenor died in Western Australia in 1949. My family has > no information about him prior to the marriage. > > The only information I have been able to find out about Frederic is > from his war service record in Australia. He listed his trade as > Motor Mechanic. His fathers address is listed as Joseph Ferdinand > Grosvenor of 2 Patham Terrace, Preston Sussex England. > > I have checked census records but have not had any luck finding the > family. > > Ideally I would like to find out whether Frederic had any brothers or > sisters? > > Any help you might be able to give me would be greatly appreciated. > > thanking you all the way from Melbourne, Australia. > Sharon > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message