Hi Neal Have you tried searching Free BDM for marriages or deaths of the children? The reason you cannot find them in the 1891 Census is probably that they are entered under a variant of the surname; how about the 1901, 1911 census? Michael Burchall Sent from Windows Mail From: Neal Ward via Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎28‎ ‎November‎ ‎2014 ‎18‎:‎10 To: sfhg@rootsweb.com I have a husband and wife, plus 7 children, all of whom turn up in the 1881 census. The fact that they cannot be found in the I have found a death entry for the mother in 1899, and I believe the father died some time before 1901, as he is described as "deceased" when one of his daughters got married that year. 6 of the 7 children can be traced well into the 20th century, but I cannot find any members of the family 1891, however deep I dig. The parents are EDWARD WILLIAM DOLTON (born Marylebone dist abt 1847) ELIZABETH COOKE DOLTON (WARD) born Horsham 7th September 1848 Children Elizabeth Catherine Dolton bapt 05 Jun 1870 Brighton Agnes Mary Dolton bapt 05 May 1872 Brighton Edward George Dolton born 22 Feb 1874 Kensington district Thomas Richard Dolton born 27 Mar 1876 Kensington district Lilian Margaret Dolton born 09 Jul 1878 Kensington district Sophia Emma Dolton born 23 Mar 1881 Paddington Ellen Maria Dolton born 12 Jul 1883 Bayswater I have used the "similar" search term, as the name is sometimes transcribed as DALTON, but cannot find any of the 9 people listed in the 1891 census. Any suggestions would be much appreciated! Thanks Neal Ward 9743 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a husband and wife, plus 7 children, all of whom turn up in the 1881 census. I have found a death entry for the mother in 1899, and I believe the father died some time before 1901, as he is described as "deceased" when one of his daughters got married that year. 6 of the 7 children can be traced well into the 20th century, but I cannot find any members of the family 1891, however deep I dig. The parents are EDWARD WILLIAM DOLTON (born Marylebone dist abt 1847) ELIZABETH COOKE DOLTON (WARD) born Horsham 7th September 1848 Children Elizabeth Catherine Dolton bapt 05 Jun 1870 Brighton Agnes Mary Dolton bapt 05 May 1872 Brighton Edward George Dolton born 22 Feb 1874 Kensington district Thomas Richard Dolton born 27 Mar 1876 Kensington district Lilian Margaret Dolton born 09 Jul 1878 Kensington district Sophia Emma Dolton born 23 Mar 1881 Paddington Ellen Maria Dolton born 12 Jul 1883 Bayswater I have used the "similar" search term, as the name is sometimes transcribed as DALTON, but cannot find any of the 9 people listed in the 1891 census. Any suggestions would be much appreciated! Thanks Neal Ward 9743

I have a note of smallpox cases at the Sussex Lunatic Asylum at Chailey Union Workhouse in the summer of 1865 . . . not quite the right time, but quite close by, and it was prevalent in those years. Just a thought! Barbara Sanders On 27/11/2014 03:06, Cordelia Hull via wrote: > Does anyone know of any epidemics or disasters that hit mid-Sussex in > May-July 1867? > > I have a family on a distant twig of my tree who lived in Blackstone nr > Woodmancote at that time. They lost three sons (aged 20, 15 and 9) within > three months of each other. > > I would like to know how they all died, but GRO death certificates are > expensive so I thought I'd try epidemics / disasters first. > > I can't find anything much on Google. > > Cordelia > 14526 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone know of any epidemics or disasters that hit mid-Sussex in May-July 1867? I have a family on a distant twig of my tree who lived in Blackstone nr Woodmancote at that time. They lost three sons (aged 20, 15 and 9) within three months of each other. I would like to know how they all died, but GRO death certificates are expensive so I thought I'd try epidemics / disasters first. I can't find anything much on Google. Cordelia 14526

Not an epidemic, but don't rule out TB(consumption) as it accounted for about 25% of all deaths and if one member of a family had it then it could spread easily to other members. Tony 15184 -----Original Message----- From: Cordelia Hull via Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 3:06 AM To: SFHG@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFHG] Any Sussex epidemics in 1867? Does anyone know of any epidemics or disasters that hit mid-Sussex in May-July 1867? I have a family on a distant twig of my tree who lived in Blackstone nr Woodmancote at that time. They lost three sons (aged 20, 15 and 9) within three months of each other. I would like to know how they all died, but GRO death certificates are expensive so I thought I'd try epidemics / disasters first. I can't find anything much on Google. Cordelia 14526 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Diana, Right click the application and select "Run as Administrator", some applications run in different contexts on users machines. What Operating System do you have? Regards, Mark. mark@parris.co.uk 07801 690596 -----Original Message----- From: Diana Burns via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> Sender: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 13:04:59 To: sfhg-L<sfhg-L@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: Diana Burns <dianachudleigh@gmail.com> Subject: [SFHG] FTM 2011 I tried this morning to see if there were updates waiting to be installed on FTM 2011. I got a message saying that I had no system administrator rights required for updates and suggesting I log in to my pc as administrator or run the application using administrator rights. Earlier, I had changed my laptop password without problem and was described as the administrator, so I do not understand why FTM does not regard me as such. Please can anyone advise? Diana Burns No. 9914 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ______________________________________________________________________

I tried this morning to see if there were updates waiting to be installed on FTM 2011. I got a message saying that I had no system administrator rights required for updates and suggesting I log in to my pc as administrator or run the application using administrator rights. Earlier, I had changed my laptop password without problem and was described as the administrator, so I do not understand why FTM does not regard me as such. Please can anyone advise? Diana Burns No. 9914

Good morning All, I am an avid watcher of Bargain Hunt on tv. Recently they have been shopping in the shops of Lewes and for me it is lovely to see where my ancestor possibly walked. I guess back in the 1850's it wasn't as lovely as it looks today. Goodness knows how old the episodes are as we get a terrible lot of repeats. But it just gives me way over here in Tasmania, Australia a little insight into the area that my ancestor Lancelot Stevens/Stephens of West Firle came from in 1856. Just my little bit of trivia this morning Byeeee Robin in Launceston, Tasmania, Australia

Hi Donna, Benjamin Browne was “outlawed” - that is put outside the law, because he had failed to appear at King’s Bench to answer for the “deodand” of the horse in King’s Bench. The horse belonged to the king, and Browne had detained it, probably quite lawfully, because it had been given to him to look after. He must have subsequently appeared at King’s Bench to answer - or sent his excuses - because he does not appear to have been arrested and jailed. You can obtain copies of the records from King’s Bench by applying to the National Archives. There might be an annotation to explain what subsequently happened. Michael Burchall Sent from Windows Mail From: Donna Casey via Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎25‎ ‎November‎ ‎2014 ‎16‎:‎41 To: SFHG SxFamHXGrp A number of years ago an SFHG member ran across one of my ancestor's names in a Kings Bench document. Pardon TILLINGHURSTHere is the gist of it: Entry 343:"On 22 Apr (1635), when George PARKER of Southwark, London, butcher, was riding on the road between Ifield and Horsham, by misadventure the horse staggered and PARKER fell to the ground whereby he immediately died and otherwise to the juror's knowledge. The jurors (they met on 23 APR 1635) appraised the horse, which is "redd roane' in colour, with its attachments at 40s; it remains with Benjamin BROWNE, vicar of Ifield. Here are the ref. #s - KB9/806, m 312 ( I have gone to TNA site and those records do not appear to have been digitalised) The following information was also given: [Delivered with 334. The vicar was summoned to King's Bench to answer of the horse and attachments: he was outlawed at Chichester on 18 FEB 1636.KB 9/806, mm 312, 312d, KB 29/284, m 4d] Here is what I DO know.One of the jurors was my ancestor Pardon TiLLINGHURST, who it happens was the son-in-law of the vicar, Benjamin BROWNE.I understand what happened in the first instance. ?The vicar took possession of the horse and attachments.....to steal?...(I question that)....but possibly took possession of them because they were on his property at the time....??? What I do not understand is the statement "he was outlawed"....at (Kings Bench) Chichester. Anyone have any ideas or knowledge of this process. Thanks for any help anyone can be. Donna TILLINGHAST CaseyMichigan, on a snowy 2 days before Thanksgiving.The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Possibly 'step-brother' ? unless Elizabeth Edmunds was a widow -Mrs Edmunds? formerly Smith or Hicks. Maybe this one: Charles Hicks married     Charlotte Edmunds 12 Jul 1812     Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Wendy | | | | | On Wednesday, 26 November 2014, 4:12, Amanda Quarles via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: I am trying to find the connection between Charles HICKS, originally of Milford and arrived in Rye by about 1815, and Jeremiah SMITH of Rye.  Books and articles call Hicks a business partner and brother-in-law to Smith. Further, James Smith, Jeremiah Smith's father, names Charles Hicks in the first paragraph of his will, leaving Hicks the same amount of cash as he leaves his wife (Mary CHATTERTON) and his wife's sister who has been living with them.  However, Charles Hicks married Elizabeth EDMONDS, and Jeremiah Smith married his first cousin Charlotte Smith.  I can't find a first marriage for Charles Hicks or a missing Smith daughter.  Could there be another meaning for brother-in-law that I'm missing?  I'm running out of ideas for even searching for their connection. Thanks for thinking on this with me. Amanda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A number of years ago an SFHG member ran across one of my ancestor's names in a Kings Bench document.  Pardon TILLINGHURSTHere is the gist of it: Entry 343:"On 22 Apr (1635), when George PARKER of Southwark, London, butcher, was riding on the road between Ifield and Horsham, by misadventure the horse staggered and PARKER fell to the ground whereby he immediately died and otherwise to the juror's knowledge.  The jurors (they met on 23 APR 1635) appraised the horse, which is "redd roane' in colour, with its attachments at 40s; it remains with Benjamin BROWNE, vicar of Ifield. Here are the ref. #s - KB9/806, m 312   ( I have gone to TNA site and those records do not appear to have been digitalised) The following information was also given: [Delivered with 334.  The vicar was summoned to King's Bench to answer of the horse and attachments: he was outlawed at Chichester on 18 FEB 1636.KB 9/806, mm 312, 312d, KB 29/284, m 4d] Here is what I DO know.One of the jurors was my ancestor Pardon TiLLINGHURST, who it happens was the son-in-law of the vicar, Benjamin BROWNE.I understand what happened in the first instance.  ?The vicar took possession of the horse and attachments.....to steal?...(I question that)....but possibly took possession of them because they were on his property at the time....??? What I do not understand is the statement "he was outlawed"....at (Kings Bench) Chichester. Anyone have any ideas or knowledge of this process. Thanks for any help anyone can be. Donna TILLINGHAST CaseyMichigan, on a snowy 2 days before Thanksgiving.The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails.

That would answer a lot, but Charles Hicks's mother was Susannah Elgar, also of Milford/Lymington, who appears to have died as the widow Susannah Hicks in Milford. Charles's brother Edward did briefly move to Rye, where his oldest son was born, and their sister married Charles's wife Elizabeth Edmonds's brother at Peasmarsh. They were quite invested. For what it's worth, Edward Hicks was not mentioned in the will, and James Smith's step-son Jesse Piper is named in the will with the other children as "son of my said wife." I really am stumped!

Hello Marian, My experience, from my direct ancestry, is that no father on the birth certificate means that the child is illegitimate and takes the mother's name. When the child comes to marrying, maybe he or she know who the father is and write in his name (often deceased!) or sometimes even, just make one up... My great grandmother, whose name was Wood, had 6 illegitimate children - all who bear the name Wood and all of whom were fathered by my great grandfather William Streeton. On their marriage certificates, they note their father as "William Wood"... This is maybe, just one particular poit of view. Maybe it is helpful to your enquiry. Best wishes, Mary -----Message d'origine----- De : sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] De la part de e-mail marian.hopkins via Envoyé : mardi 25 novembre 2014 13:25 À : SFHG@rootsweb.com Objet : [SFHG] Birth cert missing info! Hi everyone! I have a sore head from banging yet another brick wall so I am hoping some kind member can help point me in the right direction!! Apologies in advance if it's so obvious and simple a course of action but I'm stuck!! I have George Willson married to Sarah Ellis in 1876 and his father is shown on the marriage cert as Richard Willson Labourer. George is shown on Census returns as being born in Reading, Berks in 1851. According to the birth cert I received he is recorded as George Augustus Wilson born 1/09/1951. His mother is shown as Charlotte Wilson but the father info section is blank. Can anyone advise me as to how I can now find out more info on his parents? I have received a number of birth certs where the father's name is omitted and have no idea why. Hopefully someone can let me know why this would be the case. Thank you all for your help and I hope the weather is kinder wherever you are today! Regards and thanks again Marian (from a wet & miserable Hants) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le logiciel antivirus Avast. http://www.avast.com

Hi everyone! I have a sore head from banging yet another brick wall so I am hoping some kind member can help point me in the right direction!! Apologies in advance if it's so obvious and simple a course of action but I'm stuck!! I have George Willson married to Sarah Ellis in 1876 and his father is shown on the marriage cert as Richard Willson Labourer. George is shown on Census returns as being born in Reading, Berks in 1851. According to the birth cert I received he is recorded as George Augustus Wilson born 1/09/1951. His mother is shown as Charlotte Wilson but the father info section is blank. Can anyone advise me as to how I can now find out more info on his parents? I have received a number of birth certs where the father's name is omitted and have no idea why. Hopefully someone can let me know why this would be the case. Thank you all for your help and I hope the weather is kinder wherever you are today! Regards and thanks again Marian (from a wet & miserable Hants)

I am trying to find the connection between Charles HICKS, originally of Milford and arrived in Rye by about 1815, and Jeremiah SMITH of Rye. Books and articles call Hicks a business partner and brother-in-law to Smith. Further, James Smith, Jeremiah Smith's father, names Charles Hicks in the first paragraph of his will, leaving Hicks the same amount of cash as he leaves his wife (Mary CHATTERTON) and his wife's sister who has been living with them. However, Charles Hicks married Elizabeth EDMONDS, and Jeremiah Smith married his first cousin Charlotte Smith. I can't find a first marriage for Charles Hicks or a missing Smith daughter. Could there be another meaning for brother-in-law that I'm missing? I'm running out of ideas for even searching for their connection. Thanks for thinking on this with me. Amanda

I am probably showing my ignorance, but can anyone tell me what 3d means in the notes for baptisms at Henfield in 1789, 1790 and 1792? (Thruppence?) Cordelia 14526

Many thanks for all your help, I now have some postcards and have narrowed down the site of the jewellers shop to the small block between Station Street and St Andrews St. both off High Street, Lewes. Very frustrating as I didn't have this information when I was there in 2002, when we must have walked right past it on the way to the castle. I will take a look at the catalogue at The Keep , I do have the info from the Marriage CD, but would really like to have the original if possible. The COMETTI story is really taking shape now. Thanks again Carolyn.

Just a little tip re old Wills in case you haven't come across it before. When reading some old family Wills in 1600s I kept coming across a word appearing regularly at the end of a line. I couldn't make head nor tale of it. Suddenly the penny dropped it wasn't a word it was a symbol to fill the line for legal purposes. You know so no one could add thing they shouldn't. The fact that a word wasn't needed to make sense should have woken me up sooner. Lefayre Palmer.

Almost certainly the 3 pence tax on register entries operating at that time. Michael Burchall Sent from Windows Mail From: Cordelia Hull via Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎19‎ ‎November‎ ‎2014 ‎12‎:‎11 To: SFHG@rootsweb.com I am probably showing my ignorance, but can anyone tell me what 3d means in the notes for baptisms at Henfield in 1789, 1790 and 1792? (Thruppence?) Cordelia 14526 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good to know Lefayre, thanks!.Donna The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. From: Lefayre via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> To: SFHG@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:23 PM Subject: [SFHG] Wills Just a little tip re old Wills in case you haven't come across it before. When reading some old family Wills in 1600s I kept coming across a word appearing regularly at the end of a line. I couldn't make head nor tale of it. Suddenly the penny dropped it wasn't a word it was a symbol to fill the line for legal purposes. You know so no one could add thing they shouldn't. The fact that a word wasn't needed to make sense should have woken me up sooner. Lefayre Palmer. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message