Thank you all for your insights and help.I have not always had so much trouble finding wills...but this one was a challenge for some reason.Worked for 2 days trying to search on Ancestry and TNA!  Very frustrating.Thank you all for taking the time.No matter how long I have been doing this "genealogy" thing, I learn something every single day. Have warm, safe, peaceful and happy holidays. Donna The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. From: Mary Connaughton <cntnmy7@scarlet.be> To: 'Mary Connaughton' <cntnmy7@scarlet.be>; 'Donna Casey' <donnacasey@yahoo.com>; 'SFHG SxFamHXGrp' <sfhg-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 4:59 AM Subject: RE: [SFHG] Thomas Tyro/e Clerk Alfriston/Ringmer - Looking for Will about 1653 - 1656? PS - The difficulty with transcription of 17th century manuscript is that the letter "c" looks like the letter "r" as we know it, and also sometimes you have to look really carefully to distinguish "o" from "e"... Mary -----Message d'origine----- De : sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] De la part de Mary Connaughton via Envoyé : lundi 15 décembre 2014 10:30 À : 'Donna Casey'; 'SFHG SxFamHXGrp' Objet : Re: [SFHG] Thomas Tyro/e Clerk Alfriston/Ringmer - Looking for Will about 1653 - 1656? Hello Donna, My experience is always to check it out on TNA's website... Reference:    PROB 11/230/50 Description:    Will of Thomas Tycoe, Clerk of Ringmer, Sussex Date:     02 May 1653 Held by:     The National Archives, Kew Then, On Ancestry, check out the place = Ringmer and the date of probate and they’ll give you "Thomas Tyree…" It often proves difficult to actually look for names on Ancestry... Mary Connaughton --- L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le logiciel antivirus Avast. http://www.avast.com

I am posting this again as it seems to have been lost.. I am trying to find Liddy b 1781 and Hetty b 1785 Of Ifield Sussex! These names are in the register for their birth/bap, but I cannot find any further information about them. Rex

PS - The difficulty with transcription of 17th century manuscript is that the letter "c" looks like the letter "r" as we know it, and also sometimes you have to look really carefully to distinguish "o" from "e"... Mary -----Message d'origine----- De : sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] De la part de Mary Connaughton via Envoyé : lundi 15 décembre 2014 10:30 À : 'Donna Casey'; 'SFHG SxFamHXGrp' Objet : Re: [SFHG] Thomas Tyro/e Clerk Alfriston/Ringmer - Looking for Will about 1653 - 1656? Hello Donna, My experience is always to check it out on TNA's website... Reference: PROB 11/230/50 Description: Will of Thomas Tycoe, Clerk of Ringmer, Sussex Date: 02 May 1653 Held by: The National Archives, Kew Then, On Ancestry, check out the place = Ringmer and the date of probate and they’ll give you "Thomas Tyree…" It often proves difficult to actually look for names on Ancestry... Mary Connaughton --- L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le logiciel antivirus Avast. http://www.avast.com

Hello Donna, My experience is always to check it out on TNA's website... Reference: PROB 11/230/50 Description: Will of Thomas Tycoe, Clerk of Ringmer, Sussex Date: 02 May 1653 Held by: The National Archives, Kew Then, On Ancestry, check out the place = Ringmer and the date of probate and they’ll give you "Thomas Tyree…" It often proves difficult to actually look for names on Ancestry... Mary Connaughton -----Message d'origine----- De : sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] De la part de Donna Casey via Envoyé : lundi 15 décembre 2014 02:42 À : SFHG SxFamHXGrp Objet : [SFHG] Thomas Tyro/e Clerk Alfriston/Ringmer - Looking for Will about 1653 - 1656? Well, here I am again looking for a will. Thomas TYRO/E. 1653 - 1656. (born/bapt abt 1600). I have looked on Ancestry.com and found the following information.Date: 1653. Place: General, England.Book: Calendar of Wills in the PCC, 1653-1656 (Will).Collection: England: Canterbury - Wills Proved in the PCC, 1653-1656.Text: Tyroe (signs Tyro), Thomas , clk, Ringmer, Suss 1653 282 I have gone to TNA and ran into a brick wall trying to locate the will by date and location of Sussex. Seem to see no wills at all in that location at that time? I went to Ancestry and don't find Thomas Tyro/e when I put in his name/variants and the date within 40 years. I am actually trying to see who was the rector and the "religious leanings" in Alfriston in the years of about 1650 - 1660.Can anyone help me? Donna CaseyMichigan, USA The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le logiciel antivirus Avast. http://www.avast.com

Can any help in tracing the following, other than their birth/bap dates which I have: Liddy b 1781 and Hetty born 1785. These names are from the registers. Thank you Rex

Well, here I am again looking for a will.  Thomas TYRO/E. 1653 - 1656.  (born/bapt abt 1600). I have looked on Ancestry.com and found the following information.Date: 1653.  Place: General, England.Book: Calendar of Wills in the PCC, 1653-1656 (Will).Collection: England: Canterbury - Wills Proved in the PCC, 1653-1656.Text: Tyroe (signs Tyro), Thomas , clk, Ringmer, Suss 1653 282 I have gone to TNA and ran into a brick wall trying to locate the will by date and location of Sussex.  Seem to see no wills at all in that location at that time? I went to Ancestry and don't find Thomas Tyro/e when I put in his name/variants and the date within 40 years. I am actually trying to see who was the rector and the "religious leanings" in Alfriston in the years of about 1650 - 1660.Can anyone help me? Donna CaseyMichigan, USA The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails.

Have you seen the Alec Clifton Taylor programme on Lewes? Available on You Tube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpWkSN99DAI Hilary On 25 Nov 2014, at 21:08, Robin Walker via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Good morning All, > I am an avid watcher of Bargain Hunt on tv. Recently they have been > shopping in the shops > of Lewes and for me it is lovely to see where my ancestor possibly > walked. I guess back in the > 1850's it wasn't as lovely as it looks today. > Goodness knows how old the episodes are as we get a terrible lot of > repeats. But it just gives me > way over here in Tasmania, Australia a little insight into the area that my > ancestor > Lancelot Stevens/Stephens of West Firle came from in 1856. Just my > little bit of trivia this morning > Byeeee Robin in Launceston, Tasmania, Australia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to Marion, Wendy, Gwen and Lee for their replies. I tried to purchase the book online before sending my previous message. With shipping, the price was over $40. Nevertheless, after logging in to PayPal, I got to the end of the payment process and instead of receiving confirmation of my order, I was sent back to the shopping basket and asked again for payment. For the moment, I don't know if my account has been debited and Gould has not responded to my emails. John Barnes Funnell was a grocer and cheesemonger in Hastings owning several shops. I have most of his BMD and press cuttings from Trove. He was declared insolvent around 1860 and spent some time in Lewes prison. He later turns up with his family in Brisbane and Adelaide as shopkeeper and photographer. Lastly, he settles in Kadina where he becomes a renowned homeopathic practitioner and finds a new prosperity. I was hoping the book could shed some light on how and where he acquired such knowledge and how he arrived in Kadina. His wife and sons were storekeepers. Thanks again, Andy _____________________________________ On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 5:46 AM, Andy Funnell via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote:"Copper Brought Them Here: Pioneers Buried in the Kadina, Moonta and Wallaroo Cemeteries" edited by Gould Genealogy and History (2011). Would any listmember in Australia own or have access to this book and be willing to do a lookup for me? I'm interested in the information concerning Barnes Funnell. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be available online in my part of the world. Thanks for any help. Andy Funnell (in France) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

"Copper Brought Them Here: Pioneers Buried in the Kadina, Moonta and Wallaroo Cemeteries" edited by Gould Genealogy and History (2011). Would any listmember in Australia own or have access to this book and be willing to do a lookup for me? I'm interested in the information concerning Barnes Funnell. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be available online in my part of the world. Thanks for any help. Andy Funnell (in France)

Thanks Judy, all seems to be OK now Karen On 7 December 2014 at 11:51, Judy Excell via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I have just had the same and have reported it to Frontis. > Judy Excell > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Lynas via > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 11:08 AM > To: sfhg@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SFHG] Frontis not working? > > Good morning all, > > Is anyone else having problems with Frontis today? The SFHG pages are all > working fine, but I cannot even get the log-in page up for Frontis. > I have tried all the usual stuff, clearing history, turning off & on again, > but no joy - would be good to know if this is a shared problem today, or if > I have to do more troubleshooting! > > Best wishes, > Karen > 14897 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Working for me now on my first attempt today. Alan 1350 Karen Lynas via wrote on 07/12/2014 11:08: > Good morning all, > > Is anyone else having problems with Frontis today? The SFHG pages are all > working fine, but I cannot even get the log-in page up for Frontis. > I have tried all the usual stuff, clearing history, turning off & on again, > but no joy - would be good to know if this is a shared problem today, or if > I have to do more troubleshooting! > > Best wishes, > Karen > 14897 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have just had the same and have reported it to Frontis. Judy Excell -----Original Message----- From: Karen Lynas via Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 11:08 AM To: sfhg@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFHG] Frontis not working? Good morning all, Is anyone else having problems with Frontis today? The SFHG pages are all working fine, but I cannot even get the log-in page up for Frontis. I have tried all the usual stuff, clearing history, turning off & on again, but no joy - would be good to know if this is a shared problem today, or if I have to do more troubleshooting! Best wishes, Karen 14897 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good morning all, Is anyone else having problems with Frontis today? The SFHG pages are all working fine, but I cannot even get the log-in page up for Frontis. I have tried all the usual stuff, clearing history, turning off & on again, but no joy - would be good to know if this is a shared problem today, or if I have to do more troubleshooting! Best wishes, Karen 14897

The Hurstpierpoint Marriage Register for that date is deposited at WSRO and that facility is currently closed for its annual stocktaking & maintenance fortnight. However, the PRTS has published an indexed transcript of the Hurstpierpoint registers up to circa 1901 on CD and the names of the two witnesses showed on that are Anne WARD and George CLARK. If you should need verification with the parish register entry, let me know off-List and I will put the request on my WSRO file, ready for my next visit. However, that is not likely to be until sometime after New Year. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

Re Port of London Authority Question may I suggest contacting the modern PLA at http://www.pla.co.uk/ . This has for many years been the controlling authority fort the Pool of London on the Thames River and in the 17th century was a very active and busy organisation.. David Coward. -----Original Message----- From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sfhg-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 04 December 2014 18:15 To: sfhg@rootsweb.com Subject: SFHG Digest, Vol 9, Issue 103 When you reply to a message in the Digest remember to remove all the other messages or your reply will be over the size limit for the list. If you're not happy with the format of the Digest please ask to be switched to MIME format by contacting the list administrator on sfhg-admin@rootsweb.com (not available to AOL users) Today's Topics: 1. Re: Morris Colwell again (Georgina Colwell) 2. Ashburnham Parish Registers (Trevor P.) 3. Re: Ashburnham Parish Registers (Michael Burchall) 4. Fw: Moule Antique Map of Sussex (Rosie Ansell) 5. Marriage look up please (Neal Ward) 6. roffey meeting (Christine Payne) 7. Where/What was "the PORT OF LONDON" in 1630-1650? (Donna Casey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 12:28:30 +0000 From: Georgina Colwell <georgina@musicair.co.uk> Subject: Re: [SFHG] Morris Colwell again To: sfhg@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <547DB06E.1090003@musicair.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi, thanks to those who have replied so far. I don't think Morris was a member of the group in recent years. His address was/is 11 Oak Avenue, Chichester, and he is not in the Phone Book. I've even checked Zoopla to see if number 11 has been sold - no. If anyone has personal information I would be grateful, as his researches would have been invaluable to the Society. My last two Christmas cards have not been returned to me even though I put my address. Any thoughts anyone? Thanks, Georgina -- Georgina Colwell www.musicair.co.uk ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 13:41:28 -0500 From: "Trevor P." <pettitt_t@talktalk.net> Subject: [SFHG] Ashburnham Parish Registers To: sfhg@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8D1DC76B39F6456-E94-30B5@webmail-vfrr11.sis.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi listers, I see from the Frontis List for Ashburnham the Registers between 1711 - 1784 are missing or have not been transcribed. I have a source recorded for several births during this period of Bishops Transcripts but on checking the holding at The Keep can't find them. Can someone point me in the right direction please. Trevor 10402 ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 15:39:03 +0000 From: Michael Burchall <mjburchall@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [SFHG] Ashburnham Parish Registers To: sfhgemails <sfhg@rootsweb.com>, " Trevor P. " <pettitt_t@talktalk.net> Message-ID: <DUB404-EAS3173557B80AD3D6D9C5DBACC77B0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Trevor, The Bishops Transcripts for the Diocese of Chichester can be found at West Sussex Record Office, Chichester. These include those of Ashburnham parish which helps to fill the gap in the parish registers. Michael Burchall Sent from Windows Mail From: Trevor P. via Sent: ?Tuesday?, ?2? ?December? ?2014 ?18?:?43 To: sfhg@rootsweb.com Hi listers, I see from the Frontis List for Ashburnham the Registers between 1711 - 1784 are missing or have not been transcribed. I have a source recorded for several births during this period of Bishops Transcripts but on checking the holding at The Keep can't find them. Can someone point me in the right direction please. Trevor 10402 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 16:50:49 -0000 From: "Rosie Ansell" <rosieansell@aol.com> Subject: [SFHG] Fw: Moule Antique Map of Sussex To: <sfhg@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <EE738149B4C4486FB58813716EFE155B@RosiePC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" From: James Gorringe Date: 03 December 2014 2:31 PM To: volunteers@sfhg.org.uk Subject: Moule Antique Map of Sussex Just thought that given your interest in Sussex history you might wish to know that I have placed for sale on ebay a fine original Thomas Moule map of Sussex (sold in a simple mount). The map was published circa 1840 and has been hand coloured. The reserve price is ?18 (plus P&P) and the ebay auction ends on Sunday evening. A link to the ebay item is below. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131364923961?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p39 84.m1555.l2649 Kind regards James White Horse Rare Books 71 St Mary?s Road Tonbridge Kent TN9 2LE www.whitehorserarebooks.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 17:16:25 +0000 From: Neal Ward <nealward43@outlook.com> Subject: [SFHG] Marriage look up please To: "sfhg@rootsweb.com" <sfhg@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <DUB124-W5270B355F5482078EB06BADD780@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" According to the IGI, JAMES COOK WARD married MARY CLARK at Hurstpierpoint on 13 Jul 1869. I would be very grateful if someone who has access to the PR could tell me who the witnesses were. Many Thanks Neal 9743 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 17:49:31 -0000 From: "Christine Payne" <paynes.porcelian@btinternet.com> Subject: [SFHG] roffey meeting To: <SFHG-L@rootsweb.com>, <SFHG@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <332D4FA50F564B8E92437980759DF0BC@Willy> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" hello Listers we will be having our Christmas meeting mince pies and tea and the topic is marriages on the 25 December how many can you find.Millennium hall roffey this is the last meeting at the millennium hall and January we will be back at st Andrews hall. Christine God Bless ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 18:15:00 +0000 (UTC) From: Donna Casey <donnacasey@yahoo.com> Subject: [SFHG] Where/What was "the PORT OF LONDON" in 1630-1650? To: SFHG SxFamHXGrp <sfhg-l@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <726953453.3836990.1417716900373.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10619.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Can anyone tell me where or what was the Port of London 1630-1650? If it is reported that someone departed from the Port of London in say 1636, where exactly was that? Donna TILLINGHAST Casey Michigan, USA The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. ------------------------------ To contact the SFHG list administrator, send an email to SFHG-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SFHG mailing list, send an email to SFHG@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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Thanks Christine.I actually did 'Google' The Port of London and did not see the Wikipedia article on the list.Should have gone directly to Wikipedia.I found oodles of articles and old publications....but none as specific as the Wikipedia article.Thanks very much.Should have gone there direct myself....appreciate your kindness.d The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. From: Christine Jackson <jackson_cf@yahoo.com> To: Donna Casey <donnacasey@yahoo.com>; SFHG SxFamHXGrp <sfhg-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [SFHG] Where/What was "the PORT OF LONDON" in 1630-1650? Hi Donna I looked up Port of London on Wikipedia which has this to say: Pool of London "Until the beginning of the 19th century, shipping was handled entirely within the Pool of London on the stretch of the River Thames along Billingsgate on the south side of the City of London. All imported cargoes had to be delivered for inspection and assessment by Customs Officers, giving the area the name of "Legal Quays". Behind Legal Quays lay Thames Street, with its warehouses, sugar refineries and cooperages." This should help position the port for you. Christine Jackson SFHG 397 ________________________________ From: Donna Casey via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> To: SFHG SxFamHXGrp <sfhg-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 1:15 PM Subject: [SFHG] Where/What was "the PORT OF LONDON" in 1630-1650? Can anyone tell me where or what was the Port of London 1630-1650? If it is reported that someone departed from the Port of London in say 1636, where exactly was that? Donna TILLINGHAST Casey Michigan, USA The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Donna I looked up Port of London on Wikipedia which has this to say: Pool of London "Until the beginning of the 19th century, shipping was handled entirely within the Pool of London on the stretch of the River Thames along Billingsgate on the south side of the City of London. All imported cargoes had to be delivered for inspection and assessment by Customs Officers, giving the area the name of "Legal Quays". Behind Legal Quays lay Thames Street, with its warehouses, sugar refineries and cooperages." This should help position the port for you. Christine Jackson SFHG 397 ________________________________ From: Donna Casey via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> To: SFHG SxFamHXGrp <sfhg-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 1:15 PM Subject: [SFHG] Where/What was "the PORT OF LONDON" in 1630-1650? Can anyone tell me where or what was the Port of London 1630-1650? If it is reported that someone departed from the Port of London in say 1636, where exactly was that? Donna TILLINGHAST Casey Michigan, USA The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone tell me where or what was the Port of London 1630-1650? If it is reported that someone departed from the Port of London in say 1636, where exactly was that? Donna TILLINGHAST Casey Michigan, USA The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails.

hello Listers we will be having our Christmas meeting mince pies and tea and the topic is marriages on the 25 December how many can you find.Millennium hall roffey this is the last meeting at the millennium hall and January we will be back at st Andrews hall. Christine God Bless

According to the IGI, JAMES COOK WARD married MARY CLARK at Hurstpierpoint on 13 Jul 1869. I would be very grateful if someone who has access to the PR could tell me who the witnesses were. Many Thanks Neal 9743