Hello Cordelia, The transcript for Cuckfield by the Parish Register Transcription Society that have supplied most parish transcripts for SFHG has 01/01/1797 NORMAN Ann Inf. So an infant it is. There is a gap in your NORMAN baptisms between 1793 and 1797 so Ann was either baptised elsewhere, or the church official perhaps failed to enter it from the day book and so missed from the PR and perhaps even the BT's which should be checked. Regards, Stephen Steere SFHG #8715

Hi CordeliaI have the 3rd edition of the National Burial Index (2010) .The 6 Jan 1797 burial of Ann Norman is there but with no other info. The data, however, was provided by the SFHG, so it's not surprising that the entries are the same.In my experience and as you suggest, the age & parents in this era were not generally recorded if the person was more than about one year old.Good luckChristine Jackson SFHG 397 From: Cordelia Hull via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> To: SFHG SxFamHXGrp <sfhg-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 1:22 AM Subject: [SFHG] Can anyone check a burial record for me, please I am hoping someone can check a burial record for me.  It is for an Ann Norman buried in Cuckfield on 6 Jan 1797. Both the LDS website and Ancestry.com have this Ann Norman as aged 0 years.  However the sfhg frontis database has no age recorded for her, and no mention of her being the 'daughter of' anyone (which is usually the case for infant deaths). Neither can I find a baptism record for an Ann Norman in Cuckfield in 1795, 1796 or 1797 (this might be expected if she died there as an infant in Jan 1797). A whole family of Normans was baptised in Cuckfield between 1784 and 1798, the children of Martin and Ann Norman.  But their daughter Ann was baptised on 8 Oct 1786 so would have already turned 10 by 6 Jan 1797.  I don't think the burial record belongs to her. It does not belong to Martin's wife Ann because she did not die until 1815. So I'm thinking (hoping) it might belong to Martin's mother (also called Ann) who would have been 73 in 1797 and may well have been living with her son and daughter-in-law at the time. I would therefore be very grateful if anyone can add to my knowledge of this burial record. Thank you Cordelia Hull 14526 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am hoping someone can check a burial record for me. It is for an Ann Norman buried in Cuckfield on 6 Jan 1797. Both the LDS website and Ancestry.com have this Ann Norman as aged 0 years. However the sfhg frontis database has no age recorded for her, and no mention of her being the 'daughter of' anyone (which is usually the case for infant deaths). Neither can I find a baptism record for an Ann Norman in Cuckfield in 1795, 1796 or 1797 (this might be expected if she died there as an infant in Jan 1797). A whole family of Normans was baptised in Cuckfield between 1784 and 1798, the children of Martin and Ann Norman. But their daughter Ann was baptised on 8 Oct 1786 so would have already turned 10 by 6 Jan 1797. I don't think the burial record belongs to her. It does not belong to Martin's wife Ann because she did not die until 1815. So I'm thinking (hoping) it might belong to Martin's mother (also called Ann) who would have been 73 in 1797 and may well have been living with her son and daughter-in-law at the time. I would therefore be very grateful if anyone can add to my knowledge of this burial record. Thank you Cordelia Hull 14526

There is free access to Ancestry's UK collection from today and until 23.59 GMT on 26 December. The link is: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/group/uk_irish_records . A Merry Christmas to all Members! Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323 PS I am also posting this message to the Sussex-Plus List, so my apologies if you should receive it twice.

Hi Donna The link below takes you to the text of an edition of Fuller’s Worthies of England Vol III produced in 1860 https://archive.org/stream/worthiesengland03fulluoft#page/n5/mode/2up On p258 there is a mention of Thomas Chune of Alfriston HTH Richard Adams -----Original Message----- From: Donna Casey via Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 5:24 PM To: SFHG SxFamHXGrp Subject: [SFHG] Fuller's "Worthies": VOL III, pg. 258 - A question about this publication & Season's Greetings I am searching for a 'theological treatise" written in 1635 by Thomas Chowne/y of Alfriston. I found a reference about him writing this treatise in The Genealogist (quarterly magazine), H.W. Forsythe Harwood, VOL XXIV, 1908, pg 74 (online Google Books). The reference (#10) at the bottom of the page says the following:"Wood's Athenae," ed. Bliss, Vol. ii, col. 601. I have gone to that publication, volume and col. 601, but I find nothing about Chowne/y or the treatise. I also see another reference for that same # (10) that says the following:"Fuller's 'Worthies,', VOL. III, pg. 258. I cannot find "Worthies", VOL III page 258.Does anyone have access to this publication? OR....can anyone shed light on why I can't find or see the information from the first reference in Wood's Athenae, Bliss, VOL. II, col. 601? Any help or direction will be greatly appreciated.I am trying to sum up the religious 'climate' in Alfriston during this period (1637-1655) and feel that this treatise might give me exactly what I need. Thank you for everyone's help throughout this year.Serious genealogy research truly takes a village, and the SFHG "village" always have been extremely generous to me. Great holidays to all, Donna TILLINGHAST CaseyMichigan, USA The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Donna, Probably the best place to try and find this treatise to enquire at The British Library which may have a complete copy. Another line of enquiry would be to enquire of whichever University Chowne attended - if he did - starting firstly at such College Library. Three further thoughts: Lambeth Palace Library, Canterbury Cathedral Library or The Bodleian Library might come up with the goods. Michael Burchall Sent from Windows Mail From: Donna Casey via Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎21‎ ‎December‎ ‎2014 ‎17‎:‎25 To: SFHG SxFamHXGrp I am searching for a 'theological treatise" written in 1635 by Thomas Chowne/y of Alfriston. I found a reference about him writing this treatise in The Genealogist (quarterly magazine), H.W. Forsythe Harwood, VOL XXIV, 1908, pg 74 (online Google Books). The reference (#10) at the bottom of the page says the following:"Wood's Athenae," ed. Bliss, Vol. ii, col. 601. I have gone to that publication, volume and col. 601, but I find nothing about Chowne/y or the treatise. I also see another reference for that same # (10) that says the following:"Fuller's 'Worthies,', VOL. III, pg. 258. I cannot find "Worthies", VOL III page 258.Does anyone have access to this publication? OR....can anyone shed light on why I can't find or see the information from the first reference in Wood's Athenae, Bliss, VOL. II, col. 601? Any help or direction will be greatly appreciated.I am trying to sum up the religious 'climate' in Alfriston during this period (1637-1655) and feel that this treatise might give me exactly what I need. Thank you for everyone's help throughout this year.Serious genealogy research truly takes a village, and the SFHG "village" always have been extremely generous to me. Great holidays to all, Donna TILLINGHAST CaseyMichigan, USA The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am searching for a 'theological treatise" written in 1635 by Thomas Chowne/y of Alfriston.   I found a reference about him writing this treatise in The Genealogist (quarterly magazine), H.W. Forsythe Harwood, VOL XXIV, 1908, pg 74 (online Google Books).   The reference (#10) at the bottom of the page says the following:"Wood's Athenae," ed. Bliss, Vol. ii, col. 601. I have gone to that publication, volume and col. 601, but I find nothing about Chowne/y or the treatise. I also see another reference for that same # (10) that says the following:"Fuller's 'Worthies,', VOL. III, pg. 258. I cannot find "Worthies", VOL III page 258.Does anyone have access to this publication? OR....can anyone shed light on why I can't find or see the information from the first reference in Wood's Athenae, Bliss, VOL. II, col. 601? Any help or direction will be greatly appreciated.I am trying to sum up the religious 'climate' in Alfriston during this period (1637-1655) and feel that this treatise might give me exactly what I need. Thank you for everyone's help throughout this year.Serious genealogy research truly takes a village, and the SFHG "village" always have been extremely generous to me. Great holidays to all, Donna TILLINGHAST CaseyMichigan, USA The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails.

Lynne, Thanks for the message. Good advice to anyone who suspects their email has been hacked. ---------------------------------------- > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 01:12:54 +0000 > To: SFHG-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SFHG] I've been hacked - Lynne Howick > From: sfhg@rootsweb.com > > Hi Everyone, > I've been informed by a few friends that they've rec'd a suspicious email so I thought I should inform the group. > It seems this email address of mine has been hacked and has sent emails with a link to a dating site - so far only a few people have reported it to me. Hopefully you won't receive anything but if you do please don't click on the link and delete the email. > I've changed my password etc., so hopefully nothing else will happen. > > Happy Christmas to you each and a Happy & Safe New Year, > Lynne > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Everyone, I've been informed by a few friends that they've rec'd a suspicious email so I thought I should inform the group. It seems this email address of mine has been hacked and has sent emails with a link to a dating site - so far only a few people have reported it to me. Hopefully you won't receive anything but if you do please don't click on the link and delete the email. I've changed my password etc., so hopefully nothing else will happen. Happy Christmas to you each and a Happy & Safe New Year, Lynne

I've had two emails today which look suspicious, one purporting to come from Dave Woolven, the other from Brittany Ashworth. Neither had a real message - only an indecipherable link, presumably to a web site. I deleted both of them, and I suggest you all do the same if you receive anything similar, (unless, of course, Dave or Brittany advise otherwise). Mike Snatt --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

On 16/12/2014 15:53, Jackie Rowntree via wrote: > Yesterday I sent 2 emails reply to all neither appeared to get through so I > checked the archives and they are not there > > Any suggestions > > > > Happy Christmas to everyone > > > > Jackie 10751 > Happens to me if I use the wrong email address. Alan 1350.

This one rec'd Jackie.Good Holidays to you and yours.Donna The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. From: Jackie Rowntree via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> To: History email <SFHG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:53 AM Subject: [SFHG] Missing posts Yesterday I sent 2 emails reply to all neither appeared to get through so I checked the archives and they are not there Any suggestions Happy Christmas to everyone Jackie 10751 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yesterday I sent 2 emails reply to all neither appeared to get through so I checked the archives and they are not there Any suggestions Happy Christmas to everyone Jackie 10751

Thank you, Hilary, for this link to the Lewes of 1981. I thoroughly enjoyed having my memory jogged, realising how much has changed in 35 years but also seeing a lot that remains the same. I suppose I've also been prompted to search youtube, and hope similar things for other parts of Sussex will come to light. Harvey

The first 4 census entries for your family show Sussex Petford as the place of birth; and for the children James & Jane, the entry is Sussex Bat & Ball. As you have found Henry's baptism in Northchapel, perhaps Petford is Petworth as the latter is just down the road from Northchapel? Bat and Ball brings no settlement to mind in West Sussex, but there is a pub called The Bat and Ball in Wisborough Green where I once had a very good lunch. The A272 is a very old West-East route through Sussex and the stretch between Petworth & Billingshurst passes through Wisborough Green. Could Henry WARE have been a seasonal worker who travelled around or through that North West corner of West Sussex as work became available? There is also a place called Bat & Ball in Kent, just outside Sevenoaks. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

Hello listers,I'm working on my Ware branch of the family and have traced them back to Northchapel. I've two items I was looking for help on. I believe I found a family on the 1871 census has Henry Ware born ????? Sussex abt 1828 with his wife Eliza living in Brasted Surrey.  Listed with him are Henry 14, Ellen 11, James and Jane Ware both age 8 with birth location of ?????? Sussex. Also are children Elizabeth and George both born in Cranbrook Kent.  Would anyone be able to tell me what the birth locations are supposed to be.The Ancestry page listing is Class: RG10; Piece: 924; Folio: 19; Page: 8; GSU roll: 823499 The couple in question are Henry Ware and Elizabeth Pannell, married in Haslemere Surrey in 1856. Elizabeth had had a couple of illegitimate children prior to marrying Henry.  Henry was from Northchapel and worked as an agricultural labourer.  Judging from his children's birth location Henry would travel around Sussex, Surrey and Kent working where he could.  I've managed to trace him through the census periods of 1841-1911, so I'm good there. With the help of the SFHG data Archive I found that Henry Ware was baptized on Dec 14 1828 in Northchapel, parents William Ware and Elizabeth Balchin.  This generation I'm good with using the Data Archive and SMI I think I've got it covered. William Ware was baptized in Northchapel on Christmas Day 1875, parents William Ware and Lydia.  I can find no listing of a marriage for this couple with the exception of one in Manchester in 1780, which would work with his children being born 1784 and after.  The marriage listing for the Manchester William and Lydia identifies William as a soldier, so it is possible this is William from Northchapel.  The baptisms for his children do not provide any clue as to his occupation. Tthe baptism listings for Northchapel for the mid 1700's has very few Wares included.  They are all children of Henry Ware and Sarah and included in those is William Ware baptized Feb 2 1758, whom I assume to be the one that married Lydia.  Earlier than this point there are no Wares in Northchapel.  After the baptisms of Henry and Sarah's children there are burials for a couple of there children and also one for Sarah in 1765.  There is no marriage listing for Henry and Sarah in the SMI, so I assume they married out of county.  I have been unsuccessful finding it.  There is a listing for a second marriage of Henry to Sarah Cobby in 1766. I wondering if anyone has any thoughts how I can find the missing marriage and how I can continue further back. Many thanks,Gerald Peskett 13311Ontario Canada

Can anyone tell me if there was some kind of 'special relationship' between Keymer and Itchingfield in the 17th century? I have a couple of ancestral families whose children were baptised in Keymer, with a note saying 'residence Itchingfield'. Plus an unconnected couple who were married in Itchingfield then moved to Keymer. The connections between these two places on my family tree are becoming too many for coincidence now, so I am wondering if anyone knows of any wider connection? Cordelia 14526

Could this be Liddy? Banns of marriage: 21 Oct 1802, Lydia Tester and Israel Woods, both of parish of Arlington. This was from a note I made at ESRO at The Maltings over 10 years ago, sorry no reference. Barbara Sanders On 15/12/2014 09:39, Rex Tester via wrote: > Can any help in tracing the following, other than their birth/bap dates > which I have: > Liddy b 1781 and Hetty born 1785. > These names are from the registers. > Thank you > Rex > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Rex, my guess is that Liddy might appear as Elizabeth or Betty in later life, and Hetty as Easter or Hester or Henrietta or . . . And they could have died in infancy or childhood. Have you checked local burial registers? As a Stamp Tax of 3 pence had to be paid on all church CMB from Oct 1883 for about a decade, they may have been "privately" buried, so no parish record exists. Or the family could have moved to a different parish . . . Ian C. On Mon, 15 Dec 2014, at 12:09, Rex Tester via wrote: > I am posting this again as it seems to have been lost.. > > I am trying to find Liddy b 1781 and Hetty b 1785 Of Ifield Sussex! > These names are in the register for their birth/bap, but I cannot find > any > further information about them. > Rex > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings Listers, My great-grandmother, Clara Thorpe, age 24, of Rye, sailed to America with her family on 5 July of 1872 on the ship "Erin." At some point she returned to England, because she married in Bournemouth in September of 1878. Where can I find her return voyage? I have found nothing on Ancestry. Thanks, everyone! Phyllis Nordstrom San Antonio, Texas SFHG #16285