Please excuse me, I sent off my reply before I noticed that you are living overseas. I will send you some extra information off-List later today in the hope that it might assist you. Marion Woolgar

Even though the various members of your family were living in Cocking etc at the time of their deaths, it is possible that Stedham may have been their parish of settlement and so they were returned for burial there. Alternatively, perhaps they were a family of means and came to an agreement with the Stedham parish authorities to be buried there in particular plots. Have you checked the Chichester Archdeaconry probate records and/or the PCC to see if any of your family left a Will? That may have included their preference for a burial in a particular churchyard. In the 1785 Land Tax documents (SRS volume 82) for Stedham, there are various AYLING's mentioned, both as owners and occupiers and one of the assessors & collectors was a William AYLING. Obviously, this date is a little after the specific burial that you mentioned in 1759, but it may be indicative of a longstanding family association with Stedham. I'm not sure which Manor may have held the land that your family occupied at Stedham, but a lot of Manors in that area were part of the Cowdray Estate and those records are deposited at WSRO and I think that all of them have now been filmed. If you check the Chichester Rape volume of the Victoria County History for Sussex, you will see which Manors held land in the parish of Stedham and then you can make further enquiries from there. Be aware that, with the exception of the Commonwealth period, these records will be in in Latin before 1733. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

Thanks, Marion. I have Wills for many Ayling descendants, and have about 35 transcribed now. I have records from all parishes in the general area. I have figured out that there are four separate Ayling family lines buried at St. James. There are Aylings "of Ash" likely descended from Nicholas Ayling who built Ash House in 1626. There are Aylings "of Minsted" who likely descended from Anthony Ayling (D. 1626). There is a line descending from John (1706) who I have not figured out where he links up on my tree, which is now over 1,000 Aylings. And then there are the two grouping with Thomas (1689-1759) and William (D. 1724). I have the Wills for Thomas and William. Thomas leaves it to the discretion of his executor, his second wife and son from his first marriage, where he is buried. William, wife and children do not mention Thomas in any Wills. It really is a puzzle that has remained untouched after over one year of research (wherein I have solved a lot of other Ayling lines down into the 1400's!). Thanks for any reference info you can pass along. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Woolgar" <listmail008@btinternet.com> To: "Chris Ayling" <ayling1@telus.net>, sfhg-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 5:32:24 AM Subject: RE: [SFHG] St. James Church in Stedham - Ayling burial? Please excuse me, I sent off my reply before I noticed that you are living overseas. I will send you some extra information off-List later today in the hope that it might assist you. Marion Woolgar

You will need to check the GRO registers of Overseas Deaths. You can do this on TheGenealogist and Findmypast subscription sites, but I haven't been able to find the equivalent data on Ancestry. In addition, some record offices & libraries might have this data on CD's published by S&N. Once you have the necessary references, you can order a copy of the death certificate online from https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ . Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

Please can anyone suggest where I search for the death of a British national in Africa? She died in 1878 either at Angash in Sudan or Wadi Haifa in Nubia (sources differ on the place). Her death is recorded on the family headstone, in The Pall Mall Gazette and in her will, but I would like to find out the circumstances. Diana Burns

I'm puzzled about why some of my ancestors chose to be buried at St. James in Stedham when they lived in other parishes at death. In particular I am looking at Thomas Ayling (1689-1759) who is buried next to his brother John and their respective wives at St. James. The obvious answer would be that they were both born in the area. However, neither are listed in the Stedham baptism records. I realize that this does not mean they weren't born there per se. However, I have a baptism match for both in nearby Easebourne. As far as I can tell Stedham wasn't the birth parish of either wife. Thomas appears to have lived around Stedham for a time (based on land lease records and his children's baptism records) but he settled in Cocking and died there. He was apparently churchwarden in Cocking for 10 years as well. So I'm wondering if anyone knows if St. James in Stedham had some special significance in the 18th century for folks living in other parishes to want to be buried there? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Chris Ayling, Cranbrook BC Canada SFHG Member #16632

Hello I was interested to see this document as my late father’s aunt who married a Soper is mentioned in it. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~soperstuff/soperstuff/sussex/sussex_notes.htm I’m not sure who created the document or whether there are SFHG members still researching Sopers but I just thought I’d make contact. Hilary.

I understand what is meant when a minister was "sequestered from" a particular parish/church through the Committee for Plundered Ministers (1643)....those ministers were usually sympathetic to Royalist "views" and thus removed from their parish by the heavily Puritan and/or Presbyterian Parliament at that time. However, I see where a well documented Puritan/N.C./Separatist minister (John Manning) was "sequestered TO" Arlington, (East) Sussex in 1643. Can anyone tell me if there is any specific meaning to the word "TO" in this instance....or was he simply sent TO St. Pancras in Arlington, East Sussex, to replace the minister that has been "sequestered FROM" Arlington by the committee? Donna TILLINGHAST CaseyMichigan, USA The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails.

Thank you very much, Mary.(Yes, the links worked.) I hadn't used Rootschat.com before but have now signed up and sent off a request to Derek hoping he has access to the PRs. (The other link didn't lead to PR transcripts.) Otherwise I expect I'll order the microfilms from LDS & view them at the local FHC. Thanks to those of you who sent suggestions - and best wishes to all for 2015Christine Jackson  SFHG 397Ottawa, Canada From: Mary Connaughton <cntnmy7@scarlet.be> To: 'Christine Jackson' <jackson_cf@yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 8:33 AM Subject: RE: [SFHG] Help deciphering LDS entries? Hello again, I've just seen on a rootsweb forum (2008) that somebody has transcribed the Eckington Parish registers, so maybe he has another version of what you're looking for, Christine. I don't know if the sfhg list accepts links, but here it is anyway : http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=303737.0 However, this message does date back to 2008... Here is someone else called Derek offering to do Derbyshire lookups : http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=483591.0 The message is more recent. Mary --- L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le logiciel antivirus Avast. http://www.avast.com

Hello Donna, Just too late ... Below is what Family Search published on their blog a few weeks ago... “Online requests for photo duplication services of microfilm and books are no longer available. They were discontinued as of December 5th, 2014. As of that date, existing orders will be completed, but new orders will no longer be accepted. Because so many microfilm and books are continually being digitized and added to FamilySearch and more links are being made available to partner sites that already have this information digitized, the need for photo duplication has significantly decreased. FamilySearch will continue to digitize as many resources as possible and make them available online. If the film or book has been digitized, you can print your own copies directly from the web site, if printing of the film or book is not restricted by the copyright holder. To see what has already been digitized, please visit the Family Search catalogue. If the film or book you are seeking is not yet been digitized, but is available on microfiche or microfilm, you can usually order it. It will be sent to a local family history center near you where you can view it....” Mary --- L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le logiciel antivirus Avast. http://www.avast.com

Hello Christine and "Listers", I'm having a problem trying to send this message... maybe it's Microsoft Outlook on my computer which doesn't put in the SFHG address for a reply when I click on reply to all, so I'm doing it manually... In answer to your query, I did at first think of "alias" (aka)... as though Cowley was also known as Davy, Darby... I've seen that sort of thing before... However, on second thoughts, I'd say that Ab = from or of... Darley?? In my atlas of Britain both Darley and Eckington (Derbys) are on the same page, distant from about 18 miles as the crow flies... As for "Sardus"... no idea, although probably an erroneous transcription, especially as it was 17th century script - sometimes confusion of "S" with "H" or "F" and "r" with "c"... I'm afraid it looks as though you'd need to look at the original register. Maybe there's a look up service for that part of the country which surely also has a Family History group... Sorry not to be able to come up with anything else... A very happy New Year, Mary --- L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le logiciel antivirus Avast. http://www.avast.com

Was this found on LDS/Familysearch.com?If so, you have their free image photo-duplication request service that may give you the original image to view.They will send it via email attachment.Donna  The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. From: Mary Connaughton via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> To: 'SFHG SxFamHXGrp' <sfhg-l@rootsweb.com>; sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 7:53 AM Subject: [SFHG] TR: Help deciphering LDS entries? Hello Christine and "Listers", I'm having a problem trying to send this message... maybe it's Microsoft Outlook on my computer which doesn't put in the SFHG address for a reply when I click on reply to all, so I'm doing it manually... In answer to your query, I did at first think of "alias" (aka)... as though Cowley was also known as Davy, Darby... I've seen that sort of thing before... However, on second thoughts, I'd say that Ab = from or of... Darley?? In my atlas of Britain both Darley and Eckington (Derbys) are on the same page, distant from about 18 miles as the crow flies... As for "Sardus"... no idea, although probably an erroneous transcription, especially as it was 17th century script - sometimes confusion of "S" with "H" or "F" and "r" with "c"... I'm afraid it looks as though you'd need to look at the original register. Maybe there's a look up service for that part of the country which surely also has a Family History group... Sorry not to be able to come up with anything else... A very happy New Year, Mary --- L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le logiciel antivirus Avast. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI Christine Sorry I only answered the first part of your question. Regarding whether the Davy could be a mistranscription of the word Dary I have transcribed PR's from as far back as 1538 and some of the earlier records are recorded in Latin also if you have seen any early writing from the time many letters can look similar and the transcriber can only use their best guess as to which is the right letter. Also remember spelling was not consistent and if the speaker was illiterate and perhaps also had an accent the person writing the record wrote down what he heard which may well be not what the person was actually saying. Regards Tony

Hi Christine Ab is often found in Latin and is usually translated as "from" so possibly the Cowley is the mothers name and the Ab Dary, Sardus or Davy is that of the father and is a way of saying the child is illegitamate but gives an indication of the presumed or named father. Regards Tony -----Original Message----- From: Christine Jackson via Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 8:00 PM To: SFHG Subject: [SFHG] Help deciphering LDS entries? Hello Listers I wonder if someone can help me decipher a couple of entries in LDS/FamilySearch data? - not, I'm afraid, related to Sussex. I don't know if my questions are due to abbreviations with which I'm not familiar or errors/difficulties in transcription from the original handwritten register entries. I am particularly interested in the names: - Mary Cowley Ab Dary, & - Robert Cowley Ab Sardus Both came up in a search for Cowleys in Gloucestershire, but actually relate to a christening in Derbyshire. What could Ab Dary & Ab Sardus mean? I'm also interested in - Robte Cowley Or Darby - Easter Cowley Abs Daey, & - Robert Cowley Or Davy What could Abs Daey mean? Could Davy just be a misreading of the handwritten Dary? I'm including the full entries below for reference. Any thoughts would be much appreciated Happy New Year to all! Christine Jackson SFHG 397 ------------------- 1) Mary Cowley Ab Dary England Births and Christenings Name: Mary Cowley Ab Dary Gender: Female Christening Date: 06 Apr 1666 Christening Place: Eckington, Derbyshire, England Father's Name: Robert Cowley Ab Sardus Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03111-6 , System Origin: England-EASy, GS Film number: 1785839 , Reference ID: item 1 Citing this Record "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NN5L-159 : accessed 28 December 2014), Mary Cowley Ab Dary, 06 Apr 1666; citing Bristol, Gloucester, England, reference item 1; FHL microfilm 1,785,839. 2) Robte Cowley Or Darby mentioned in the record of Cowley Or Darby Name: Robte Cowley Or Darby Gender: Male Child: Cowley Or Darby Other information in the record of Cowley Or Darby from England, Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers Name: Cowley Or Darby Event Type: Christening Event Date: 05 Oct 1662 Event Place: Eckington, Eckington, Derbyshire, England Father's Name: Robte Cowley Or Darby GS Film number: 1752149 , Digital Folder Number: 004172612 , Image Number: 00150 Citing this Record "England, Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers, 1538-1910," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KB85-VHM : accessed 28 December 2014), Robte Cowley Or Darby in entry for Cowley Or Darby, 05 Oct 1662; citing Christening, Eckington, Eckington, Derbyshire, England, Record Office, Matlock; FHL microfilm 1,752,149. 3) England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991 about Easter Cowley Abs Daey Name: Easter Cowley Abs Daey Gender: Female Death Place: Eckington, Derbyshire, England Burial Date: 12 Jul 1677 FHL Film Number: 1785839 Reference ID: P 17 Source Information: Ancestry.com. England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014. Original data: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013. 4) Robert Cowley Or Davy England, Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers Name: Robert Cowley Or Davy Event Type: Christening Event Date: 04 Sep 1653 Event Place: Eckington, Eckington, Derbyshire, England Gender: Male Father's Name: Robte Cowley Or Davy GS Film number: 1752149 , Digital Folder Number: 004172612 , Image Number: 00131 Citing this Record "England, Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers, 1538-1910," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KB85-F96 : accessed 28 December 2014), Robert Cowley Or Davy, 04 Sep 1653; citing Christening, Eckington, Eckington, Derbyshire, England, Record Office, Matlock; FHL microfilm 1,752,149. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you to Marion and Karen for their prompt help. Reading their replies was another of those "duh" moments when I realised that I had known this limitation, just forgotten. I do appreciate the help in ending a frustrating search. Not one of my brighter moments. Regards Robert SLATER

Hi Christine, have not been able to find anything on the lDS site but could it be something as simple as ”At Birth” ? Maybe a direct request on their helpline would elicit the correct answer. Vic 9082

Hello Listers I wonder if someone can help me decipher a couple of entries in LDS/FamilySearch data? - not, I'm afraid, related to Sussex. I don't know if my questions are due to abbreviations with which I'm not familiar or errors/difficulties in transcription from the original handwritten register entries. I am particularly interested in the names: - Mary Cowley Ab Dary, & - Robert Cowley Ab Sardus Both came up in a search for Cowleys in Gloucestershire, but actually relate to a christening in Derbyshire. What could Ab Dary & Ab Sardus mean? I'm also interested in - Robte Cowley Or Darby - Easter Cowley Abs Daey, & - Robert Cowley Or Davy What could Abs Daey mean? Could Davy just be a misreading of the handwritten Dary? I'm including the full entries below for reference. Any thoughts would be much appreciated Happy New Year to all! Christine Jackson SFHG 397 ------------------- 1) Mary Cowley Ab Dary England Births and Christenings Name: Mary Cowley Ab Dary Gender: Female Christening Date: 06 Apr 1666 Christening Place: Eckington, Derbyshire, England Father's Name: Robert Cowley Ab Sardus Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03111-6 , System Origin: England-EASy, GS Film number: 1785839 , Reference ID: item 1 Citing this Record "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NN5L-159 : accessed 28 December 2014), Mary Cowley Ab Dary, 06 Apr 1666; citing Bristol, Gloucester, England, reference item 1; FHL microfilm 1,785,839. 2) Robte Cowley Or Darby mentioned in the record of Cowley Or Darby Name: Robte Cowley Or Darby Gender: Male Child: Cowley Or Darby Other information in the record of Cowley Or Darby from England, Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers Name: Cowley Or Darby Event Type: Christening Event Date: 05 Oct 1662 Event Place: Eckington, Eckington, Derbyshire, England Father's Name: Robte Cowley Or Darby GS Film number: 1752149 , Digital Folder Number: 004172612 , Image Number: 00150 Citing this Record "England, Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers, 1538-1910," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KB85-VHM : accessed 28 December 2014), Robte Cowley Or Darby in entry for Cowley Or Darby, 05 Oct 1662; citing Christening, Eckington, Eckington, Derbyshire, England, Record Office, Matlock; FHL microfilm 1,752,149. 3) England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991 about Easter Cowley Abs Daey Name: Easter Cowley Abs Daey Gender: Female Death Place: Eckington, Derbyshire, England Burial Date: 12 Jul 1677 FHL Film Number: 1785839 Reference ID: P 17 Source Information: Ancestry.com. England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014. Original data: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013. 4) Robert Cowley Or Davy England, Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers Name: Robert Cowley Or Davy Event Type: Christening Event Date: 04 Sep 1653 Event Place: Eckington, Eckington, Derbyshire, England Gender: Male Father's Name: Robte Cowley Or Davy GS Film number: 1752149 , Digital Folder Number: 004172612 , Image Number: 00131 Citing this Record "England, Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers, 1538-1910," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KB85-F96 : accessed 28 December 2014), Robert Cowley Or Davy, 04 Sep 1653; citing Christening, Eckington, Eckington, Derbyshire, England, Record Office, Matlock; FHL microfilm 1,752,149.

I must be suffering from the silly season, but I have been trying to find from my SFHG Marriage CD, data about a marriage registered in the September quarter of 1844 in the Hailsham registration district, Volume 7, page 467, but can not find any reference at all. After much messing about with other sources and contacts, I am now looking at a scan of the copy of the original certificate, which gives the ceremony as taking place in the parish church Arlington, between David LAMBERT and Louisa BARNES, by Banns, so as it falls within the date range covered by the CD (SFHGCD002), I would have expected to find it listed. I have not used the CD for a while, so is the silly season encouraging me to do something wrongly, or is this particular marriage actually not included? The Anglican Clergy database entries for Arlington cut off ten years before this marriage took place, and on the scan, the officiating clergyman appears to be Owen Emerie Vidal? (with the last letter or two cut off. So the second question is, "Can anyone help me with his surname please?" One reference I have found suggests that it is actually "Vydral", and that he became a Bishop, so any information about where (and when?) would also be very welcome. Regards Robert SLATER

Thanks, Stephen The 'Inf' confirms it (disappointingly for me, but thank you). I cannot get to see any original records (e.g WSRO or the Keep) for myself as I live in Oz so I have to rely on other databases. Cheers, Cordelia 14526 On 28 December 2014 at 08:42, Stephen Steere via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello Cordelia, > > > > The transcript for Cuckfield by the Parish Register Transcription Society > that have supplied most parish transcripts for SFHG has 01/01/1797 NORMAN > Ann Inf. So an infant it is. > > > > There is a gap in your NORMAN baptisms between 1793 and 1797 so Ann was > either baptised elsewhere, or the church official perhaps failed to enter > it > from the day book and so missed from the PR and perhaps even the BT's which > should be checked. > > > > Regards, > > > > Stephen Steere > > SFHG #8715 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

The Sussex Marriage Index records Anglican & Non-Conformist marriages for the period to 30 Jun 1837 and the information is taken from a combination of parish registers and Bishops Transcripts. There are a few parishes where marriages a few years into civil registration have also been indexed; a few catholic entries and some "strays", such as Fleet marriages are also included. You can check what is included for a particular parish by either clicking on the Place Coverage Icon or using the Reference tab; and Arlington's entries end in 1837. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323