A new index has appeared on Ancestry for Deaths between 2007 to 2013, but I'm not sure where the information has come from. At first, I thought it was the GRO Death Indexes, which would mean that this new information would complete the Death Indexes from 1837 to 2013, but this is what Ancestry has to say about it: "About England and Wales, Death Index, 2007-2013 This index provides death details for people in England and Wales, specifically their name and title, gender, postcode, date of birth or age at death, and date of death." Also: "Source Information Ancestry.com. England and Wales, Death Index, 2007-2013 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014. Original data: British Death Indexes. Various sources." Of course, all this vagueness makes me wonder just how reliable the data is going to be. I wonder if some of it has come from the new probate registry web site, but then, why stop at 2013? Any ideas? Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

I am looking for a marriage which probably took place in either (Lewes?) Sussex or London.The groom = John Tillinghast/variants (bp. 1623 Streat Sussex - bu. abt NOV 1645, (Lewes?) Sussex)The bride = Dorothy (maiden unknown)The marriage took place between abt. 1643 and 1645. The marriage information I seek should not be confused with the marriage of his uncle, John Tillinghast and Dorothie Tichbourne 1627 London. Any help anyone can be will be greatly appreciated. Donna TILLINGHAST CaseyMichigan, USA The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails.

Hello Diana I've deleted your original message about a death of an English person outside England and can't recall what country the person died in - somewhere in Africa perhaps? Just remember that not every British person dying outside the UK had their death registered with the British authorities (and that if there was any Scottish connection this may have been with the Scottish authorities not the England & Wales ones). It all depended on what the family wanted and what the local system in the area where the death occurred was. So have you checked the records in the locality of the death? I have a relative of one of my Scottish ancestors whose death is recorded on a headstone in Scotland as having died in a mining accident in Rhodesia (early 1900s I think) but I don't have his death recorded in the Scottish records. I presume that there was an adequate registration system in that part of Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe probably) at the time at least as far as the British and other European residents were concerned. Regards Lesley New Zealand > Today's Topics: > 4. Re: Death abroad (Diana Burns) > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 18:06:05 +0000 > From: Diana Burns <dianachudleigh@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [SFHG] Death abroad > To: Marion Woolgar <listmail008@btinternet.com> > Cc: sfhg-L <sfhg-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <CADRw3gZ=+onS43KXKPxKs64Tcd0MR4yi1wuX1cYn6M+c3d8OYQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Thank you, Marion and Mark, for your replies. I today checked the GRO > > registers of Overseas Deaths on findmypast, but Maria Ewing nee > Macauley > was not there. Is there anywhere else I can try, or is this > the end of the line? > > Diana > > On 04/01/2015, Marion Woolgar <listmail008@btinternet.com> wrote: >> You will need to check the GRO registers of Overseas Deaths. You can do >> >> this on TheGenealogist and Findmypast subscription sites, but I >> haven't> been > able to find the equivalent data on Ancestry. In >> addition, some record >> offices & libraries might have this data on CD's >> published by S&N. Once >> you >> have the necessary references, you can >> order a copy of the death>> certificate>> online from >> https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ . >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Marion Woolgar >> Bognor Regis, West Sussex >> SFHG Member No: 3323 --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

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East Grinstead parish is very fortunate in having a large archive of poor law records deposited at WSRO (ref: PAR 348/33/1). They are transcribed & indexed in "Mid-Sussex Poor Law Records 1601 to 1835" by Norma Pilbeam & Ian Nelson, published by the Sussex Record Society as Volume 83 in 2001, ISBN 0854450505. This book is now out of print, but you might find a library copy. This book includes eight 19th Century Apprenticeship Agreements dated between 1802 and 1825. Contact me off-List if you would like a scan of that particular page. The same records are also included in a CD by Michael Burchall. This is entitled "Eastern Sussex Settlement Certificates & Bonds 1651-1834 & Parish Apprentices 1575-1837" and it was published by the PRTS under ref: PRTS-SXXSC. The CD can be obtained from the SFHG Bookstall at http://www.sfhg.org.uk/pubs-12.html#SCPA ; or via the Parish Chest web site at www.parishchest.com . Best wishes for the New Year, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

Brilliant , Mary. Just what I wanted to hear. It worked. I knew it would be something simple. (As I said, I am a computer illiterate and don't find these things intuitively). Now I only need to check the Penfolds, not everyone who was ever buried in Shermanbury. Yay. Thanks so much. Cordelia On 8 January 2015 at 20:38, Mary Connaughton <cntnmy7@scarlet.be> wrote: > Hello Cordelia, > All you have to do to see the surnames is to click on the up/down arrow > over > "Surnames" and the surnames come up in alphabetical order. As "P" is near > the end, then I generally go to "last" page and work backwards 4 or 5 at a > time... > In your case the Penfold name is on page 8 and there are nine of them. > Good luck! > Mary 13526 > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] De la > part > de Cordelia Hull via > Envoyé : jeudi 8 janvier 2015 02:11 > À : SFHG SxFamHXGrp; SFHG@rootsweb.com > Objet : [SFHG] Burial data set > > Is there a way I can get the Data Archive burial lists to display by either > surname or date, rather than by first name only? > > I am trying to find Penfold babies dying 1842 - c.1870 in Shermanbury. > > I know from a Shermanbury headstone that a particular Penfold family had 8 > children buried as infants but I only have names and dates for five of > them. > > So, can I re-arrange the set to display by surname or do I need to go > through each page individually searching for Penfold. > > Sorry, I am not very computer literate and I find it really hard to use the > sfhg data archive - most of the time it refuses to respond to me at all > anyway. :-) > > Cordelia Hull > 14526 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le > logiciel antivirus Avast. > http://www.avast.com > >

Dear All Thanks for your replies and sorting that for me Best wishes Nigel From: Nigel Burch [mailto:2muchmusic@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 07 January 2015 19:45 To: SFHG@rootsweb.com Subject: Marriage look-up please Dear All Happy New Year to you all. I wonder if anybody with an online subscription wouldn't mind looking up the following marriage catalogue reference (and Quarter) so that the corresponding marriage certificate can be ordered.? Nellie Jane Bright m Alfred Frederick Saunders 1930 in Ware, Herts Many thanks Nigel Burch 16496

Thank you, Marion and Mark, for your replies. I today checked the GRO registers of Overseas Deaths on findmypast, but Maria Ewing nee Macauley was not there. Is there anywhere else I can try, or is this the end of the line? Diana On 04/01/2015, Marion Woolgar <listmail008@btinternet.com> wrote: > You will need to check the GRO registers of Overseas Deaths. You can do > this on TheGenealogist and Findmypast subscription sites, but I haven't > been > able to find the equivalent data on Ancestry. In addition, some record > offices & libraries might have this data on CD's published by S&N. Once > you > have the necessary references, you can order a copy of the death > certificate > online from https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ . > > Best wishes, > > Marion Woolgar > Bognor Regis, West Sussex > SFHG Member No: 3323 > > >

Is there a way I can get the Data Archive burial lists to display by either surname or date, rather than by first name only? I am trying to find Penfold babies dying 1842 - c.1870 in Shermanbury. I know from a Shermanbury headstone that a particular Penfold family had 8 children buried as infants but I only have names and dates for five of them. So, can I re-arrange the set to display by surname or do I need to go through each page individually searching for Penfold. Sorry, I am not very computer literate and I find it really hard to use the sfhg data archive - most of the time it refuses to respond to me at all anyway. :-) Cordelia Hull 14526

FreeBMD. Just be careful with 20th century dates to check the graphs of coverage. Judy Excell -----Original Message----- From: Christine Jackson via Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 7:56 PM To: Nigel Burch ; SFHG@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SFHG] Marriage look-up please Hi NigelYou don't need a subscription to use FreeBMD - http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ - this site allows you to search free for GRO references. The reference for your Bright-Saunders marriage is Registration District: WareVolume: 3aPage 1751 CheersChristine JacksonSFHG 397 From: Nigel Burch via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> To: SFHG@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 2:45 PM Subject: [SFHG] Marriage look-up please Dear All Happy New Year to you all. I wonder if anybody with an online subscription wouldn't mind looking up the following marriage catalogue reference (and Quarter) so that the corresponding marriage certificate can be ordered.? Nellie Jane Bright m Alfred Frederick Saunders 1930 in Ware, Herts Many thanks Nigel Burch 16496

Hello Cordelia, All you have to do to see the surnames is to click on the up/down arrow over "Surnames" and the surnames come up in alphabetical order. As "P" is near the end, then I generally go to "last" page and work backwards 4 or 5 at a time... In your case the Penfold name is on page 8 and there are nine of them. Good luck! Mary 13526 -----Message d'origine----- De : sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] De la part de Cordelia Hull via Envoyé : jeudi 8 janvier 2015 02:11 À : SFHG SxFamHXGrp; SFHG@rootsweb.com Objet : [SFHG] Burial data set Is there a way I can get the Data Archive burial lists to display by either surname or date, rather than by first name only? I am trying to find Penfold babies dying 1842 - c.1870 in Shermanbury. I know from a Shermanbury headstone that a particular Penfold family had 8 children buried as infants but I only have names and dates for five of them. So, can I re-arrange the set to display by surname or do I need to go through each page individually searching for Penfold. Sorry, I am not very computer literate and I find it really hard to use the sfhg data archive - most of the time it refuses to respond to me at all anyway. :-) Cordelia Hull 14526 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le logiciel antivirus Avast. http://www.avast.com

Cordelia, you can check these & other names on FreeBMD by clicking on Births & deaths together- hold down 'shift' key. key in 1840 - 1870 & choose Steyning district. Compare these results with any names you know or those on censuses. Family search again will help to see whose children were yours by checking their birth baptism lists which will often also give Parents & death year  or residence if not an early death.Wendy On Thursday, 8 January 2015, 12:16, wendy miles via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: While you wait for a reply Cordelia, I found these on Family Search.org  England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991         Eliza Penfold    burial: January 1850 Shermanbury, Sussex, England     Jane Penfold    burial: 22 June 1851 Shermanbury, Sussex, England         William Penfold    burial: 27 October 1858 Shermanbury, Sussex, England         John Penfold    burial: 26 January 1859 Shermanbury, Sussex, England    Edwin Penfold    burial: 30 September 1859 Shermanbury, Sussex, England            Elizabeth Penfold    burial: 29 March 1868     Shermanbury, Sussex, England             James Penfold    burial: 22 December 1870 Shermanbury, Sussex, Englan You may find more, hope it helps.Wendy     On Thursday, 8 January 2015, 11:45, Cordelia Hull via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote:   Is there a way I can get the Data Archive burial lists to display by either surname or date, rather than by first name only? I am trying to find Penfold babies dying 1842 - c.1870 in Shermanbury. I know from a Shermanbury headstone that a particular Penfold family had 8 children buried as infants but I only have names and dates for five of them. So, can I re-arrange the set to display by surname or do I need to go through each page individually searching for Penfold. Sorry, I am not very computer literate and I find it really hard to use the sfhg data archive - most of the time it refuses to respond to me at all anyway.  :-) Cordelia Hull 14526 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

While you wait for a reply Cordelia, I found these on Family Search.org  England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991         Eliza Penfold    burial: January 1850 Shermanbury, Sussex, England     Jane Penfold    burial: 22 June 1851 Shermanbury, Sussex, England         William Penfold    burial: 27 October 1858 Shermanbury, Sussex, England         John Penfold    burial: 26 January 1859 Shermanbury, Sussex, England    Edwin Penfold    burial: 30 September 1859 Shermanbury, Sussex, England            Elizabeth Penfold    burial: 29 March 1868     Shermanbury, Sussex, England             James Penfold    burial: 22 December 1870 Shermanbury, Sussex, Englan You may find more, hope it helps.Wendy On Thursday, 8 January 2015, 11:45, Cordelia Hull via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: Is there a way I can get the Data Archive burial lists to display by either surname or date, rather than by first name only? I am trying to find Penfold babies dying 1842 - c.1870 in Shermanbury. I know from a Shermanbury headstone that a particular Penfold family had 8 children buried as infants but I only have names and dates for five of them. So, can I re-arrange the set to display by surname or do I need to go through each page individually searching for Penfold. Sorry, I am not very computer literate and I find it really hard to use the sfhg data archive - most of the time it refuses to respond to me at all anyway.  :-) Cordelia Hull 14526 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone tell me please if there were records kept of apprentices in East Grinstead in the 1800s please. I saw in the poor law data-base one such apprenticeship -1802-agreement & wonder if any other info is available. Would like one more stab at finding Gt.Gt.Gt. G'Father before I need to put it all away. TIA Wendy15695

Marriage: Dec 1930  - Ware, Hertfordshire  Alfred F Saunders Spouse: Bright    Nellie J Bright Saunders Oct-Nov-Dec 1930 Ware     Hertfordshire QApr-Oct-Nov-Dec 1930 Volume Number:    3a Page number:    1751 Wendy On Thursday, 8 January 2015, 6:31, Christine Jackson via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hi NigelYou don't need a subscription to use FreeBMD - http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ - this site allows you to search free for GRO references. The reference for your Bright-Saunders marriage is Registration District: WareVolume: 3aPage 1751 CheersChristine JacksonSFHG 397       From: Nigel Burch via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> To: SFHG@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 2:45 PM Subject: [SFHG] Marriage look-up please   Dear All Happy New Year to you all. I wonder if anybody with an online subscription wouldn't mind looking up the following marriage catalogue reference (and Quarter) so that the corresponding marriage certificate can be ordered.? Nellie Jane Bright m Alfred Frederick Saunders 1930 in Ware, Herts Many thanks Nigel Burch 16496 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi NigelYou don't need a subscription to use FreeBMD - http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ - this site allows you to search free for GRO references. The reference for your Bright-Saunders marriage is Registration District: WareVolume: 3aPage 1751 CheersChristine JacksonSFHG 397 From: Nigel Burch via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> To: SFHG@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 2:45 PM Subject: [SFHG] Marriage look-up please Dear All Happy New Year to you all. I wonder if anybody with an online subscription wouldn't mind looking up the following marriage catalogue reference (and Quarter) so that the corresponding marriage certificate can be ordered.? Nellie Jane Bright m Alfred Frederick Saunders 1930 in Ware, Herts Many thanks Nigel Burch 16496 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nigel 4th Quarter 3a 1751 Ware Jackie > On 7 Jan 2015, at 19:45, Nigel Burch via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Dear All > > > > Happy New Year to you all. > > > > I wonder if anybody with an online subscription wouldn't mind looking up the > following marriage catalogue reference (and Quarter) so that the > corresponding marriage certificate can be ordered.? > > > > Nellie Jane Bright m Alfred Frederick Saunders 1930 in Ware, Herts > > > > Many thanks > > > > Nigel Burch 16496 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear All Happy New Year to you all. I wonder if anybody with an online subscription wouldn't mind looking up the following marriage catalogue reference (and Quarter) so that the corresponding marriage certificate can be ordered.? Nellie Jane Bright m Alfred Frederick Saunders 1930 in Ware, Herts Many thanks Nigel Burch 16496

I have a 1712 burial record which states the deceased was a 'traveller'. Does anyone know whether the term had its Romany connection in the 18th century? Or might it have something to do with his occupation (e.g. travelling tradesman or salesman)? Or did it just mean he was from another parish? A man with the same name had two children baptised in the same parish a few years earlier. I am wondering how likely it was to be the same man. Cordelia 14526

Hi All, In the 1861 census for Ashdown Forest, Forest Row, my great grandfather's profession is listed as: 'R S S T Militia, Ag Lab' He was 18 at the time. Google has been no help, so I was wondering if anyone knew what militia this was. A local militia? Perhaps something he would have done to supplement his wages? Pam Woodruff SGHG Member No: 16414