Greetings Listers I am interested in finding out details of two LUCKETT Wills listed on The Keep catalogue. Markis LUCKETT - 1547 Title: Markis LUKKETT [Luckett] of Hastings, All Saints , fisherman; registered will with grant of probate Date: 1547 Repository: East Sussex Record Office ESRO reference: PBT 1/1/1/123DPBT/1/1/1/123D Level: Item Custodial History: Formerly W/A 1/123 Access status: Open Access Conditions: Please use microform XA 26 held at The Keep - William LUCKETT - 1557 Title: William the elder LUCKAT [Luckett] of Hastings, All Saints , fisherman; registered will with grant of probate Date: 1577 Repository: East Sussex Record Office ESRO number: PBT 1/1/7/66CPBT/1/1/7/66C Level: Item Custodial History Note: Formerly W/A 7/66 Level: Item Access Status: Open Conditions: Please use microform XA 26 held at The Keep Would there be a Kind Soul visiting The Keep who would be willing to check these Wills please? I'm interested in knowing any names in the Wills and relationships to the Testator - sort of what was left to whom etc. My LUCKETT ancestry goes back from Katheren LUCKETT b. 1621, d/o James LUCKETT & Edy SHEPHEARD. Katheren married Robert BOURN. Many thanks. Pam (SFHG #8642) Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

There is free access to ancestry.co.uk this weekend until 23.59 GMT on Sunday 08 February. For further information please see http://www.ancestry.co.uk/cs/free-access . Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

I hope someone can help me find some birth & death records. I have hit a brick wall. I can trace my ancestors back to a Quaker marriage ceremony between Thomas Penneyfold a weaver, and Jane Hoggs on 25 October 1699 at Ifield, Sussex. Thomas Penneyfold was from Crawley (no father or mother was mentioned in the Quaker marriage record). Jane Hoggs was from Ifield and her father was Nicholas Hoggs, also a weaver. I can not find a birth or christening, nor a death/burial quaker or parish record for Thomas Penneyfold (Pennifold/Penifold/Penefold/Penyfold/Pennyfold) and Jane Hoggs (Hogge/Hogg/Hougg). I did find a Thomas Penifold chr 29 Nov 1663 in Fletching, father was William Penifold/Pennifold. Not sure if this Thomas is the same person. I can not found a birth or christening quaker/parish record for Thomas & Jane's three children. I have only found marriage and death Quaker records for their three children:- Nicholas Pennifold (appears never married), a weaver, died 31 May 1798, aged 94 and is buried in the Friend Burial Grounds at Ifield, so born about 1704. John Pennifold (married Hannah Neives on 21 April 1737 at Hurstpierpoint, Meeting Place) a weaver, died 7 Feb 1797, aged 90 and is buried in the Friend Burial Grounds at Ifield, so born about 1707. Mary Pennifold (Penefold) (married John Chantler 21 May 1734 Ifield Sussex), died 26 May 1789, aged 79 and is buried in the Friend Burial Grounds at Ifield, so born about 1710. I can not found a birth or christening quaker/parish record for John and Hannah(nee Neives) Pennifold's three children. I have only found the following Quaker records for their three children:- Hannah Pennifold, (married William Hounsom 27 Feb 1764) died 31 Oct 1808, aged 70, buried 6 Nov 1808 Ifield, residence Cowfold, Sussex. So born about 1738. John Pennifold, a Yeoman died 13 Mar 1825, aged 83 and is buried in the Friend Burial Grounds at Ifield, so born about 1742. Thomas Pennifold (Pennyfold) (married Elizabeth Hall 17 Nov 1767 in Worth - parish record) All Thomas & Elizabeth children born in Worth. Unable to find parish/quaker death record for Thomas & Elizabeth (they may not be quakers). I have looked online at church records for parishes around Ifield including parishes in Surrey, and at Quakers records both in Ancestry.com and Family Search, and on Frontis, but no luck in finding these missing records. It appears the Sussex & Surrey Quaker online records are incomplete (i.e. some years missing for the Dorking/Horsham areas). This may be why I can not find them online. I am from Adelaide, South Australia and I will be visiting Sussex & Surrey to do some family research in August this year. I plan to visit the East and West Record Offices, as well as SFHG. Would these offices have a complete Quaker record for this period (say 1650 to 1800) for me to look at when I visit, more than online through Family Search and Ancesrty.com? Is there anywhere else I should be looking? I need some direction. Thank you Kym Pennifold 16323

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Sussex Family History Group's library is at The Keep, Woollards Way, Brighton, and is open on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday most weeks and also on some Saturdays, from 10am to 4pm. It is always best to check our Facebook page for opening times to be sure beforehand. Volunteers from the group will be on hand to help with your family history research at the library and also at the East Sussex Record Office, which is in the same building. SFHG records cover both East and West Sussex. We have our own Burial, Baptism and Marriage indexes and we also have free access to both Ancestry and Find My Past. More details of our holdings are available on our web site at www.sfhg.org.uk and information about The Keep are at www.thekeep.info Steve Selby

I have had real trouble with Frontis for the past couple of days - I log in, then when I try to get on to a specific record, it tells me I am not logged in, so I log in again, then same thing happens. On and on. It just won't let me STAY logged in. Cordelia 14526 On 30 January 2015 at 07:00, vic phillips via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Has the Frontis Archive search facility been unavailable? I haven’t had > access for 3 days. > Regards Vic Phillips SFHG 8160 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Peter, See the SFHG Home page MEMBERSHIP & subscriptions If your details change, tell .. Alan 1350 Peter L Killow via wrote on 29/01/2015 20:16: > Please can you tell me how to notify the right person to divert messages > to my new email address (pl.killow@uwclub.net) and not my old one > (p.killow@btinternet.com) ? > Thanks > Peter

Please can you tell me how to notify the right person to divert messages to my new email address (pl.killow@uwclub.net) and not my old one (p.killow@btinternet.com) ? Thanks Peter

Has the Frontis Archive search facility been unavailable? I haven’t had access for 3 days. Regards Vic Phillips SFHG 8160

After spending a huge amount of time searching for my Grandfather's ancestors, without success, I'm hoping somebody on the SFHG Mailing List is able to help. In short, there are two men, with different names, whom I believe are the same man. The only way to prove this is to find out if the age pension was paid to either of these men, at what address was it paid and are they in fact the same person. Family lore has it that, Granddad Albert Edward Oner (c1879-1955) changed his name and age when he joined the army in 1897, there is no trace of his birth. From that date forward I have fairly good records, including his marriage, death and army service records. I also have information from Uncles, Aunties, Cousins as well as my own experience, as I knew him when I was a little lad. A few years ago, whilst going through my late Mother's family papers and photos, I came across a birth certificate for Alfred Honor born (1881-??), there is no trace of his marriage or death. The date of application for the certificate was 1946, the year Alfred turned 65! Could it be that after a long army career as Albert Oner he had to prove his identity in order to receive the pension? My Father says, "he had difficulty getting his pension, it took him a while". Cheers, Kevin

Hi Donna You may find this helpful: http://www.southwark.gov.uk/info/200161/local_history_library Kind regards Margaret Brook 10959 On 28 Jan 2015, at 16:13, Donna Casey via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > There is the ESRO for East Sussex parish records in Brighton, etc.There is the KRO for Kent parish records Maidstone, etc.HAL for Hertfordshire in Hertford, and so onEtc.,But what/where is the records office for Southwark London.Is it Surrey?Will those records be at KEW TNA?Donna TILLINGHAST CaseyMichigan, USA The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Donna Majority of records for Southwark at LMA (London Metropolitan Archives) 40 Northampton Road EC1 which is operated by City of London Corporation Tony -----Original Message----- From: Donna Casey via Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 4:13 PM To: SFHG SxFamHXGrp Subject: [SFHG] Records Office for Southwark London? Located Where? There is the ESRO for East Sussex parish records in Brighton, etc.There is the KRO for Kent parish records Maidstone, etc.HAL for Hertfordshire in Hertford, and so onEtc.,But what/where is the records office for Southwark London.Is it Surrey?Will those records be at KEW TNA?Donna TILLINGHAST CaseyMichigan, USA The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is the ESRO for East Sussex parish records in Brighton, etc.There is the KRO for Kent parish records Maidstone, etc.HAL for Hertfordshire in Hertford, and so onEtc.,But what/where is the records office for Southwark London.Is it Surrey?Will those records be at KEW TNA?Donna TILLINGHAST CaseyMichigan, USA The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails.

Some of the mist is beginning to clear ... Ancestry have changed their web page at http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=60630 to include the following information about this new index: " Original data: GreyPower Deceased Data. compiled by Wilmington Millennium, West Yorkshire. This collection is a compiled index that covers approximately 55% of the total deaths that occured in this time period. This index provides death details for people in England and Wales, specifically their name, gender, date of birth or age at death, date of death, and residence place at death. However, they do not include the General Register Office (GRO) reference information." There is some extra explanation on another web site at http://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2015/01/source-information-for-ancestrys-n ew.html - you may have to copy and paste that URL to access the correct page. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

I have been checking Ancestry.com for this intriguing new-but-inaccurate database but I cannot find it. I can only get deaths up to 2007. Can anyone assist a computer illiterate like me to find it pls? I have a World Heritage membership of Ancestry.com. Is that a sufficient level of access? Cordelia 14526 On 24 January 2015 at 10:31, Gwen Connolly via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi > > I have just checked the Ancestry Death Indexes for a cousin who died in > London area in June 2011 (born Australia). Her death does not appear in > it. > > Cheers > > Gwen Connolly > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Look under New Records http://search.ancestry.com.au/search/db.aspx?dbid=60630 Cheers Gwen From: Cordelia Hull [mailto:cordeliamary@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 24 January 2015 1:13 PM To: Gwen Connolly Cc: SFHG SxFamHXGrp Subject: Re: [SFHG] Ancestry: Death Indexes 2007 to 2013 I have been checking Ancestry.com for this intriguing new-but-inaccurate database but I cannot find it. I can only get deaths up to 2007. Can anyone assist a computer illiterate like me to find it pls? I have a World Heritage membership of Ancestry.com. Is that a sufficient level of access? Cordelia 14526 On 24 January 2015 at 10:31, Gwen Connolly via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hi I have just checked the Ancestry Death Indexes for a cousin who died in London area in June 2011 (born Australia). Her death does not appear in it. Cheers Gwen Connolly ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I have just checked the Ancestry Death Indexes for a cousin who died in London area in June 2011 (born Australia). Her death does not appear in it. Cheers Gwen Connolly

One of my husband's close relatives died in 2013. In the Ancestry entry, her date of death is correct. However, her birth year is obviously calculated using her age at death, because it is shown as 1916, when it was actually 1915; she has been given the title of "MS" (which she hated) and titles are never given in GRO indexes; her residence when she died is "Worthing, Norfolk, England" although she lived in Worthing, West Sussex; and there is a partial post code BN11 that was accurate. There is a Worthing in Norfolk, but not one with a BN11 postcode. The date of death might have been extracted from the probate registry web site; but the rest of the information must have come from somewhere else. I wondered if it might have been collected from her death notice in the local newspaper, as that gave her correct age, but that used the Christian name by which she was commonly known and the Ancestry entry uses her full birth Christian names. Until the proper sources for this data are declared, I will be giving this Ancestry database a wide birth because it is giving some misleading data, as shown in this example. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 22:53:54 -0000, Claire Wickens via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Well... I just tried out the index by searching for a friend who died > three years ago. They have his year of birth and date of death correct > but have moved the registration district from Suffolk to Devon. Claire, where have you seen the registration district? The entry for my father shows only 'residence place at death' which I know is not where he died. = Malcolm. > -----Original Message----- > From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf > Of Marion Woolgar via > Sent: 22 January 2015 20:01 > To: sfhg-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SFHG] Ancestry: Death Indexes 2007 to 2013 > > A new index has appeared on Ancestry for Deaths between 2007 to 2013, but > I'm not sure where the information has come from. At first, I thought it > was the GRO Death Indexes, which would mean that this new information > would > complete the Death Indexes from 1837 to 2013, but this is what Ancestry > has > to say about it: > "About England and Wales, Death Index, 2007-2013 > This index provides death details for people in England and Wales, > specifically their name and title, gender, postcode, date of birth or > age at > death, and date of death." > Also: > "Source Information > Ancestry.com. England and Wales, Death Index, 2007-2013 [database > on-line]. > Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014. > Original data: British Death Indexes. Various sources." > > Of course, all this vagueness makes me wonder just how reliable the data > is > going to be. I wonder if some of it has come from the new probate > registry > web site, but then, why stop at 2013? Any ideas? > > Best wishes, > > Marion Woolgar > Bognor Regis, West Sussex > SFHG Member No: 3323 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -- Malcolm Austen <malcolm.austen@weald.org.uk> GENUKI trustee <genuki@weald.org.uk> Pedigree User Group <chairman@pugweb.org.uk> Oxfordshire FHS <webmaster@ofhs.org.uk> FFHS Communications Officer <communications@ffhs.org.uk>

Well... I just tried out the index by searching for a friend who died three years ago. They have his year of birth and date of death correct but have moved the registration district from Suffolk to Devon. Claire -----Original Message----- From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marion Woolgar via Sent: 22 January 2015 20:01 To: sfhg-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFHG] Ancestry: Death Indexes 2007 to 2013 A new index has appeared on Ancestry for Deaths between 2007 to 2013, but I'm not sure where the information has come from. At first, I thought it was the GRO Death Indexes, which would mean that this new information would complete the Death Indexes from 1837 to 2013, but this is what Ancestry has to say about it: "About England and Wales, Death Index, 2007-2013 This index provides death details for people in England and Wales, specifically their name and title, gender, postcode, date of birth or age at death, and date of death." Also: "Source Information Ancestry.com. England and Wales, Death Index, 2007-2013 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014. Original data: British Death Indexes. Various sources." Of course, all this vagueness makes me wonder just how reliable the data is going to be. I wonder if some of it has come from the new probate registry web site, but then, why stop at 2013? Any ideas? Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message