Dear Members I have a photocopy of page 177 of the register of Baptisms in the parish of Brighthelmston (later Brighton?) which covers some of July 1849. Unfortunately, like many photocopies of documents of this sort and date it is almost impossible to decipher in parts. I understand that the register is held at THE KEEP and, as this is a long way from West Wiltshire, I wonder if some kind member would be willing and able to either scan (preferably) or photograph this page for me. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Chasemore 10375

I would like to add my thanks, to Rosie for all your help, and to the rest of the crew! On 5 April 2015 at 21:33, Donna Casey via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Thanks for your dedication Rosie!Donna TILLINGHAST CaseyMichigan, USA The > pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; > the realist adjusts the sails. > From: Rosie Ansell via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> > To: "sfhg@rootsweb.com" <SFHG@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2015 3:47 PM > Subject: [SFHG] Wills update > > Hello Listers, > > Just a note to say that another 450 wills have been added to the Wills > Depository and are now listed on the website. > > Contact me at willstore@sfhg.org.uk for any transcriptions you would like. > > Rosie Ansell > SFHG Wills Depository > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you Pam. I have resent the message using the Rosie Ansell address. Margaret Major

I tried to send a transcript of a will to willstore@sfhg.org.uk but it was returned as having an undeliverable address. Has anybody else had this problem? Margaret Major 5836

Hello Listers, Just a note to say that another 450 wills have been added to the Wills Depository and are now listed on the website. Contact me at willstore@sfhg.org.uk for any transcriptions you would like. Rosie Ansell SFHG Wills Depository

Thanks for your dedication Rosie!Donna TILLINGHAST CaseyMichigan, USA The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. From: Rosie Ansell via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> To: "sfhg@rootsweb.com" <SFHG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2015 3:47 PM Subject: [SFHG] Wills update Hello Listers, Just a note to say that another 450 wills have been added to the Wills Depository and are now listed on the website. Contact me at willstore@sfhg.org.uk for any transcriptions you would like. Rosie Ansell SFHG Wills Depository ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers I am giving a presentation about my West Sussex family to my local family history group here in Ottawa, Canada next Saturday (Apr 11) &, if possible, I would very much like to check something out in a parish register before I do that. If anyone is going to the West Sussex Records Office in Chichester this coming week and would be willing to check one thing for me, I would be most grateful - as follows: Check the microfilm of the baptism register (not a transcription plse) or original register for LURGASHALL for Baptism of Henry DURRANT, 2 Oct 1842, parents James Durrant & Ann Ref.: Par 130/1/2/1 (Jan 1813 - Oct 1842) & possibly Par 130/1/2/2 (Oct 1842 - Apr 1877) All I would like to know is, is there any additional notation against the baptism entry? I am asking because I have some doubt about Henry's legitimacy (long story!). If this was known to be the case by the vicar, he may have made a comment in the register.Henry's birth certificate, not unexpectedly, reflects the parents' names of James & Ann. The informant was the mother, Ann. Thank you!Christine Jackson SFHG 397Ottawa, Canada

Following his previous posting Robert has kindly passed on details of a further Rees/Mourrant Cape Breton marriage as follows: 22 1 1880 - Marriage of Cenrie Edgar Rees aged 36 born in Worthing, Sussex and Libby Gertrude Mourrent of Cow Bay aged 21. Full details have been added to the SFHG Strays index, along with a copy of the clergyman's registration slip, and I would be happy to pass these on if anyone has them in their family. Vyvyan

hello listers 14 April 1x30 –3x30 st Andrews church hall next meeting the talk is Gallipoli it is the anniversary of the landings . Christine God Bless

I'm fascinated by the whole Richard III drama. However, there is an awful lot of nonsense being talked by claimants to the exclusivity of royal Medieval and Norman ancestry. Does anyone know the estimated proportion of those of us with English ancestry who would have royal blood? My 30 years of research have identified hundreds of my ancestors, almost all in S.E. England (including Hastings!). I guess I and my forebears, including all those workhouse paupers and transported convicts, must be pretty royal - along with millions of others! I know it has been calculated that every native European is a descendant of Charlemagne. Does anyone know the estimates for the English? Barbara Sanders

Thanks Jim On the basis of your response, my 'guess' would be that James Heasman was born on 10 Feb 1840, but was sickly and not expected to survive so he was baptised privately on 13 Feb. When he DID defy the odds and survive, he was then presented to the congregation on 10 May 1840. My perpetual calendar tells me 10 May 1840 was a Sunday (a good day to present to a congregation !!), whereas 10 Feb was a Monday and 13 Feb a Thursday, all of which adds weight to your notion. When the parish clerk needed to add a birthdate for the 10 May 'baptism' / presentation, someone 'guessed' James was born the day before his real (first) baptism and said 12 Feb, which was the second birthdate that was recorded. This will be my 'story' of the events anyway. :-) Thanks so much for your help. Cordelia 14526 On 23 March 2015 at 00:21, JH via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello Cordelia, > On the basis that this baptism was according to the rites of the > Church of England, the Nicene creed said by the congregation at all > holy communion services throughout the history of the Book of Common > Prayer > from 1559 to the 1662 version still used in many churches today and > including the 1928 edition with its additions and deviations (never > put in use) has consistently included the words "I acknowledge one > Baptism for the remission of sins" If two baptisms are recorded then > one would not have been a true baptism. This could have been because > the first baptism was a private baptism and when the parents were > questioned by the priest in charge at the following presentation of > the child to the congregation it emerges that the form and matter of > the ceremony did not comply with that in use at the time, then the > priest would have baptized the child himself immediately prior to the > presentation to the congregation. > > It is not difficult to see that the recording of the event in the > registers could be the subject of some confusion if the parties, > including possibly a lay person such as a midwife, at the original > "baptism" were not in close and frequent contact with each other and > with the clerk, recorder, curate or priest or whoever whose duty it > was to write the entry in the registers. > > Properly done and to avoid confusion any second entry should refer > simply to the presentation of the child to the congregation. There > can be little doubt that it was not always "properly done", so that > you and many others over the years are presented with a guessing game > !! > > Enjoy it ! > > Jim Halsey > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Cordelia, On the basis that this baptism was according to the rites of the Church of England, the Nicene creed said by the congregation at all holy communion services throughout the history of the Book of Common Prayer from 1559 to the 1662 version still used in many churches today and including the 1928 edition with its additions and deviations (never put in use) has consistently included the words "I acknowledge one Baptism for the remission of sins" If two baptisms are recorded then one would not have been a true baptism. This could have been because the first baptism was a private baptism and when the parents were questioned by the priest in charge at the following presentation of the child to the congregation it emerges that the form and matter of the ceremony did not comply with that in use at the time, then the priest would have baptized the child himself immediately prior to the presentation to the congregation. It is not difficult to see that the recording of the event in the registers could be the subject of some confusion if the parties, including possibly a lay person such as a midwife, at the original "baptism" were not in close and frequent contact with each other and with the clerk, recorder, curate or priest or whoever whose duty it was to write the entry in the registers. Properly done and to avoid confusion any second entry should refer simply to the presentation of the child to the congregation. There can be little doubt that it was not always "properly done", so that you and many others over the years are presented with a guessing game !! Enjoy it ! Jim Halsey

Can anyone explain why a child might be listed twice on the frontis list of Baptisms for Bolney? The guy in question is James Heasman s/o Henry Heasman and Harriet. The first record states he was born on 10 Feb 1840; baptised 13 Feb 1840 The second record has him born two days later, on 12 Feb 1840 not baptised until 10 May 1840. Would he have been baptised twice? Was one a parish record and the other a BT? Did the parents/priest forget he'd been baptised earlier (and the date he was born)? Cordelia 14526

Added to what Jeff said, perhaps a Baptism & later 'entered into the Church'. Was there a 'private' notation on the first one.?It's easy on a busy day to misread an entry, perhaps reading part of another or mixed up with another from a different entry. Also- guess what? people made some astonishing booboos. Some have to be seen to be believed. Wendy On Sunday, 22 March 2015, 6:52, MrJPTribe via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: In my family tree :- There was a child baptised twice at Saint Nicholas,  Brighton. And my son, who had medical problems at birth was baptised at  the hospital, and then later formerly at Church. So I would expect that  the child was poorly at birth and in risk of dying. However, it could be a transcription error, or the vicar was getting  senile.... Jeff SFGH 3646 In a message dated 21/03/2015  20:14:57 GMT Standard Time, sfhg@rootsweb.com writes: Can anyone explain why  a child might be listed twice on the frontis list of Baptisms for  Bolney? The guy in question is James Heasman s/o Henry Heasman and  Harriet. The first record states he was born on 10 Feb 1840; baptised 13  Feb 1840 The second record has him born two days later, on 12 Feb 1840 not  baptised until 10 May 1840. Would he have been baptised twice?  Was one a parish record and the other a BT? Did the parents/priest forget  he'd been baptised earlier (and the date he was  born)? Cordelia 14526 ------------------------------- To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com  with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of  the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In my family tree :- There was a child baptised twice at Saint Nicholas, Brighton. And my son, who had medical problems at birth was baptised at the hospital, and then later formerly at Church. So I would expect that the child was poorly at birth and in risk of dying. However, it could be a transcription error, or the vicar was getting senile.... Jeff SFGH 3646 In a message dated 21/03/2015 20:14:57 GMT Standard Time, sfhg@rootsweb.com writes: Can anyone explain why a child might be listed twice on the frontis list of Baptisms for Bolney? The guy in question is James Heasman s/o Henry Heasman and Harriet. The first record states he was born on 10 Feb 1840; baptised 13 Feb 1840 The second record has him born two days later, on 12 Feb 1840 not baptised until 10 May 1840. Would he have been baptised twice? Was one a parish record and the other a BT? Did the parents/priest forget he'd been baptised earlier (and the date he was born)? Cordelia 14526 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello,I'm wondering if someone might be able to help.  On e-bay, a Volunteer Force Service Medal for an H. Peskett has come up for bid. e-Bay H. Peskett  It was awarded according to it's description in 1895 for long service (20 years) in the Sussex Regiment.  Unfortunately, I can't figure out who it was awarded to.   The Military Archive website has listings for these medals and has one for an H. Peskett; Peskett H (9736) VLSM Record Rank: Private Name: Peskett H Service Number: 19 Unit: Royal Sussex Regiment Medal type: Victoria Regina, issued both unnamed and namedbut is not free to view and I don't think based on the sample that they provide with give me much if anymore detail. Working backwards, if it was awarded for 20 years service in 1895, he would have joined up around 1875, placing his birth about 1840 to 1860 area assuming he began his military career fairly young.  I've a Peskett database and have several H. Peskett's born during that period or before, but none are likely candidates.  Does anyone know if this medal, as it is for Volunteer Service, was handed to a non-soldier?  Would the censuses show him in a normal career, not military?  I've looked at military careers and I can't see anyone that I think would fit the bill. I would like to figure out who this was presented to?  I'm curious to know if it was a distant relative. Gerald Peskett 13311Ontario Canada.

Has any one got a list--or some names-of those Worthing people who  died in the flu epidemic just as ww1 ended? John Stepney     mem. 6735

Hi all Thanks to those that helped with my query on years/dates. This is my puzzle for John LUXFORD. He was baptized in Hooe, February 1699/1700. His parents are named Henry and Elizabeth. A search on the SFHG marriages CD between the years 1690 to 1700 only reveals a marriage between a Henry LUXFORD and a Rachel BOURN in May 1699. (In Hooe) In the database it shows Henry and Rachel have the following children baptised in Hooe: Rachel 1701/1702 - she dies 1702 Mary 1703/1704 Rachel 1709. I can't find any burial for an Elizabeth in Hooe around 1700. I find Rachels death and what i think is Henry's. I also know and find records of John and his children once he marries. So could i make a leap and assume that the mother's name was a mistake on the baptism? Or should it remain a brick wall for a little longer? BTW if you search for John on Ancestry.com trees you will find around 7 trees that have him listed with parents Henry and Elizabeth. Unfortunately they die 40 years before he is born. Oh dear!! Thank you for reading Cheers Karen Webster

Hi, I have two seperate photographs of a grave at St. Mark's Staplefield, the grave is of the children of George & Elizabeth Peskett.  It is a large double headstone that lists several of their childrens birth and death dates, but unfortunately neither photo I have, allows me to read the details completely.  One of these came through the SFHG with a partial transcript, but I'm not sure it that was taken from the picture or in person.  It is possible that the details are unreadable in person, but I was wondering if someone lives close to Staplefield they might be able to take a look at it and see if any of it is readable in person.   Unfortunately, I can't attach a picture to this email to show what it looks like. It appears to be under trees which doesn't make the lighting good for a photo, but reads on the left stone at the top "Sacred to the memory of the sons and daughters of George & Elizabeth Peskett".  The attached right stone starts of " Sacred to the memory of Edward Nye Peskett". Thank you. Gerald Peskett13311Ontario, Canada

Is there anyone on this list who can/will decipher cursive Latin (eg. in an Will/Administration?). Please e-mail me direct if you able able to lend a hand :) Thanks. Chris Ayling, Cranbrook BC Canada