The best method is to work backwards from the known to the unknown. There is a GRO Marriage Index entry for 1865 Sep Qtr ref Marylebone 1a 1051 (per FreeBMD), apparently for the wedding of Henry Charles SHAW and Harriet MORRIS. That marriage register is available on Ancestry and the wedding took place on 13 Jul 1865 and Harriet MORRIS declares that her father was George MORRIS, a Livery Stable Keeper. Do you have an Ancestry subscription? If not, contact me off-List and I will send you a copy of this entry to get you started. Unfortunately, no ages are given, apart from the fact that bride & groom were both over 21. The next thing to sort out is whether Harriet Morris was born in Henfield or Ashburnham; they are about 50 miles apart, so it has to be one or the other. Ashburnham was in Battle Union and there is a GRO Birth Index entry for a Harriet MORRIS in 1841 Sep Qtr ref Battle 7 216 (per FreeBMD) and that would be correct for a birth on 30 Jul 1841. Whether this is the correct entry for your family will only become apparent when you have purchased the certificate. The official site for certificate purchases is http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp . There isn't a similar registration for a birth in Henfield which was in Steyning Union, but I wouldn't place too much emphasis on this as there are known problems with the early civil registrations. The Henfield parish registers are available to members on the SFHG Frontis site. There is a Harriet MORRIS baptised at Henfield on 14 May 1843, the daughter of Thomas & Ann, cordwainer. There is an appended note that she was born on 14 March 1843. If the Marriage Register & Death Certificate are correct, that the father was George, a Livery Stable Keeper, then this baptism at Henfield must be an incorrect match for your family. Again according to FreeBMD, there is a marriage registration in 1841 Mar Qtr ref Battle 7 281 for George MORRIS and Mary Ann FOSDICK, the probable parents of Harriet MORRIS. Note that it is FOSDICK and not FORDICK, per this index. Obviously, you will need to either purchase the Birth Certificate or do some work on the Ashburnham parish registers and census returns to see if you can pick up the family. The census returns are available on Ancestry and Findmypast (amongst other sites) and your local library may have a subscription. Unfortunately, the Ashburnham registers are not yet available online. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

Dear Listers, I have found a Statutory Notice in a 1893 newspaper that refers to a Settlement in favour of Philly Mann of Brighton dated 27th April 1865, a couple of weeks before she married my grandfather's brother Thomas Ward, a builder. Philly Ward died on 22nd February 1893, and according to a subsequent advertisement, the trustees of the Marriage Settlement offered several properties in Brighton for sale by auction. These were 28 Chatham Place, 3 Bath Street (where Philly Ward died), 45 Red Cross Street, 20 Kingsbury road, and 25, 26 and 27 Jersey Street. I would very much like to learn more about these houses and how Philly Mann came by them. I strongly suspect that Philly, who came from a lowly family in Mayfield, and, as a servant was convicted of larceny in 1845 and served 4 months imprisonment, later became the mistress of a wealthy benefactor, with whom she had 8 illegitimate children. I would love to find out who he was! She had a further 2 children with Thomas Ward in 1864 and 1867, and most of her children were privately educated. The trustees names are given as George Ansell and Albert Chapman. George Ansell was a kinsman of Thomas Ward, and George and his wife had been witnesses at Thomas and Philly's marriage in 1865. I don't know anything about Albert Chapman. Apart from the newspaper report in 1893 (which does not make it clear whether Thomas is still in Brighton, or even if he is still alive), I cannot find any more references to Thomas Ward after the birth of his second child in 1867. My understanding is that Marriage Settlements, unlike Wills, were private documents and are unlikely to have survived, but it is possible that the 19th century ownership of the above mentioned houses are recorded in the title deeds. I would be grateful for any comments or advice. Neal Ward 9743

I am trying to get correct information for my great-grandmother Harriet Morris Shaw, born in Henfield, Ashburnham, Sussex on 30 Jul 1841. She died in Detroit, Michigan, USA on 13 Nov 1916. I have her father listed as Thomas Morris from a 1861 census and a brother Edward Morris. However, her death certificate shows her parents as George Morris and May Ann Fordick. she had a sister we called Aunt Mite, whose name was Mary Ann Morris born in 1840. How can I determine the correct information or should I assume that the death certificate is correct? Any parish records I could check? as I would also like to find her grandparents and so forth. I have the passenger list when the family immigrated to Canada in 1883. The list includes Harriet, her husband Henry C Shaw and several children including my grandfather Harold Shaw. There are other people listed but I cannot read the writing. Does anyone know if that information might have been transcribed and thus more legible? Any suggestions are much appreciated Dinah Penn Shaw Antigua, Guatemala

Hello Listers, Another note to say that wills have been very busy and so a further 480 wills have been added to the Wills Depository and are now listed on the website. Contact me at willstore@sfhg.org.uk for any transcriptions you would like. Rosie Ansell SFHG Wills Depository

Hi VicThanks for the pointer I have seen it now ,never knew he was married twice, in fact cannot find anything about the second marriage . Coincidentally looking at your internet address I'm guessing you are in Southwestern Ontario as I am.Regards John > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 14:39:29 -0500 > From: "Vic Deacon" <ranger46@xplornet.com> > Subject: [SFHG] Mann burials > To: <sfhg@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <AEA8AF9BA2FA42F39247D88898671030@vicHP> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello John, Ancestry has a tree with a newspaper clipping that shows he was buried in St. Edwards churchyard. He was apparently a preacher there right up until his death. It also shows he was married twice and has further details. Maybe you could contact the tree owner. > Regards, vic9082 > > ------------------------------

Hi John, no worries, I’m actually just over the border in Manitoba at a little place called Franklin, about 200k west of Winnipeg, just off of Highway #16 Regards, Vic.

Since my last posting on the subject of recently published parish register transcripts, several new CD's have been published by the PRTS & SFHG. They are: West Chiltington (SXW-186); Southwick (SXW-187); Fernhurst (SXW-188) Lindfield (SXW 189); and Littlehampton, St. Mary (SXW-190). All the above are available from SFHG Publications and you can find the necessary details on our web site at http://www.sfhg.org.uk/pubs-00.html . So, by my count, the following West Sussex ancient parishes remain to be published: Bury, Fittleworth, Lyminster, Kingston Gorse, Slaugham, Thakeham, Warningcamp (if not with Lyminster) and Washington. With best wishes, Marion Woolgar SFHG Member 3323

Hello Diana, This type of chart is what the Society of Genealogists call a Birth Brief. I simply create my own in a speadsheet. John Moore ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Burns via" <sfhg@rootsweb.com> To: "sfhg-L" <sfhg-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 6:09 PM Subject: [SFHG] Lost Cousins Ancestor Chart > Lost Cousins provide a very useful ancestor chart which is free to > print off and shows all one's ancestors back to g x 3 grandparents. > It can be found at > www.lostcousins.com/pages/info/lostcousins_chart.pdf, and is > is particularly good for trying to work out Family Finder connections > in FTDNA. > > Unfortunately, the only way of entering information is manually. Does > anyone know of a similar template which can be downloaded and > completed online, so that it can be circulated to other interested > parties? > > Diana Burns > No. 9914 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

From: stenjoe@outlook.com To: dianachudleigh@gmail.com; sfhg-l@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SFHG] Lost Cousins Ancestor Chart Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 13:04:53 +1030 You can download the basic Legacy programme for free, and you can go back as far as you want with that, even as far as adam and eve. Regards Joe Austen 9934 in OZ > Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 18:09:20 +0100 > To: sfhg-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SFHG] Lost Cousins Ancestor Chart > From: sfhg@rootsweb.com > > Lost Cousins provide a very useful ancestor chart which is free to > print off and shows all one's ancestors back to g x 3 grandparents. > It can be found at > www.lostcousins.com/pages/info/lostcousins_chart.pdf, and is > is particularly good for trying to work out Family Finder connections > in FTDNA. > > Unfortunately, the only way of entering information is manually. Does > anyone know of a similar template which can be downloaded and > completed online, so that it can be circulated to other interested > parties? > > Diana Burns > No. 9914 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone help me with a possible case of divorce or bigamy? I have a Walter Francis in 1901 married to Florence Alice with three children, living in Cowfold. I have the same Walter Francis in 1911 with two of the above children but with a DIFFERENT wife (their 1908 marriage record found and her previous history established - definitely a different person, she had had a previous child who was with her and Walter in 1911). Did Walter's first wife die? Extensive search says NO (all women of vaguely the same name and age dying anywhere in England and Wales between 1901 and 1908 have been identified as being someone else). Was the first wife Florence Alice still alive after Walter re-married? I think yes, but was this possible / likely? I have found a Florence Annie (not Alice) Francis aged 30 (not 29) but with correct birthplace (Steyning) and right marital status (married). She was an inmate of West Sussex County Asylum Graylingwell in Chichester. In the infirmity column, all the inmates have 'lunatic at [age]' listed. Florence's 'lunatic' age is incomplete but it looks like the beginning of a 2, so perhaps 20-something? Would it be possible that Walter's first wife Florence was institutionalised in Graylingwell, then he married his second wife? Walter was living in Suffolk in 1911, not Sussex (even though his second wife was Sussex-born and raised). So, was he hiding something? Can anyone shed any light on the possibility of divorce or bigamy? Or suggest where I might look for further records (they have to be on-line - I'm in Australia). Oh yes, the first husband of Walter's second wife was a police officer, but he had died. Cordelia 14526

Ancestry has Divorce records for England & Wales for the period 1858 to 1911 and the file papers can be downloaded. Alternatively, you can search the TNA web site for divorces between 1858 and 1937 and then pay a research fee. The documents will be found in J77 and the easiest way to make a search is from this page http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/divorce.htm . Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

---------------------------------------- > From: nealward43@outlook.com > To: robertb99@bell.net; dianachudleigh@gmail.com > Subject: RE: [SFHG] Lost Cousins Ancestor Chart > Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 22:43:45 +0100 > > There is a freeware programme you can download from the internet called UniPDF. A Google search should find it. > > > Its free to use provided its for non commercial purposes, though there is a "donate" link. It seems to work fine on the lost cousins file. > > > There are also free programmes available to convert the other way - ie word files to pdf - I use PrimoPDF > > > Neal > > ---------------------------------------- >> Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 12:18:08 -0400 >> To: dianachudleigh@gmail.com; sfhg@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [SFHG] Lost Cousins Ancestor Chart >> From: sfhg@rootsweb.com >> >> I was able to d/l the chart from Peter Calver's LostCousins site, Diana >> and was able to use the Omnipage Ultimate software to quickly and easily >> convert the file to an MS WORD file that I am able to edit in WORD2007 >> and then convert it in WORD back to a PDF which contains the amended >> data and is distributable. The Omnipage software is available through >> Nuance and is often available at significant discounts to the full price >> on the Nuance site. >> >> Robert in Kanata >> >> On 10/05/2015 1:09 PM, Diana Burns via wrote: >>> Lost Cousins provide a very useful ancestor chart which is free to >>> print off and shows all one's ancestors back to g x 3 grandparents. >>> It can be found at >>> www.lostcousins.com/pages/info/lostcousins_chart.pdf, and is >>> is particularly good for trying to work out Family Finder connections >>> in FTDNA. >>> >>> Unfortunately, the only way of entering information is manually. Does >>> anyone know of a similar template which can be downloaded and >>> completed online, so that it can be circulated to other interested >>> parties? >>> >>> Diana Burns >>> No. 9914 >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I was able to d/l the chart from Peter Calver's LostCousins site, Diana and was able to use the Omnipage Ultimate software to quickly and easily convert the file to an MS WORD file that I am able to edit in WORD2007 and then convert it in WORD back to a PDF which contains the amended data and is distributable. The Omnipage software is available through Nuance and is often available at significant discounts to the full price on the Nuance site. Robert in Kanata On 10/05/2015 1:09 PM, Diana Burns via wrote: > Lost Cousins provide a very useful ancestor chart which is free to > print off and shows all one's ancestors back to g x 3 grandparents. > It can be found at > www.lostcousins.com/pages/info/lostcousins_chart.pdf, and is > is particularly good for trying to work out Family Finder connections > in FTDNA. > > Unfortunately, the only way of entering information is manually. Does > anyone know of a similar template which can be downloaded and > completed online, so that it can be circulated to other interested > parties? > > Diana Burns > No. 9914 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello Listers, Ok....our speaker for this Wednesday had to cancel, so now we have Alan Haines who gives a talk called "A kick up the 60's" He takes a look at the era of the 60's as it emerges from the austerity of the 50's with the use of newsreel, video clips and music that was around in this time. Ok...a bit different from potions & poisons, but I hope an entertaining evening. Mick Sent from my iPad

hello listers Roffey Meeting Tuesday 12 may a vicar or cleric in the family st Andrews Methodist church hall Roffey 1x30 Christine God Bless

Lost Cousins provide a very useful ancestor chart which is free to print off and shows all one's ancestors back to g x 3 grandparents. It can be found at www.lostcousins.com/pages/info/lostcousins_chart.pdf, and is is particularly good for trying to work out Family Finder connections in FTDNA. Unfortunately, the only way of entering information is manually. Does anyone know of a similar template which can be downloaded and completed online, so that it can be circulated to other interested parties? Diana Burns No. 9914

On 23 April Ancestry put the cemetery records below online. Hopefully more will appear for Sussex. I wonder if Ancestry are going to compete with Deceased Online? >From the web site: "About UK, Select Cemetery Registers, 1873-2014 This collection contains burial registers from select cemeteries in the UK. Additional cemetery registers will be added in future updates. The collection currently contains the following registers: • Findon Cemetery, West Sussex, England • Arundel Cemetery, West Sussex, England • Chalcraft Lane Cemetery, West Sussex, England • Bognor Regis Cemetery, West Sussex, England • Littlehampton Cemetery, West Sussex, England • Magdalen Hill Cemetery, Hampshire, England Findon, Arundel, Chalcraft Lane, Bognor Regis, and Littlehampton cemeteries are located in the Arun region in West Sussex, England. Magdalen Hill Cemetery opened in 1914, and this collection includes burial registers beginning in 1916. It is located on Alresford Road on the eastern side of Winchester, Hampshire, England. During World War I and World War II, Winchester was home to the regimental depots of the Royal Hampshire Regiment, the Rifle Brigade, and the King's Royal Rifle Corps. The cemetery has a war graves plot, and more than 37 World War I soldiers and 65 World War II soldiers are buried in the cemetery. Information found in the burial registers includes interment number, name of the deceased, residence, age, place of death, date of burial, location of the grave, and the name of the person who conducted the burial service. Registers of stillborn babies are not included in this collection." Stephen Steere Orpington, Kent.

Does anyone know about St Aubyns school Eastbourne and does it still exist in 1901 it was at Carlisle Road Eastbourne Jim Isard 3147

I am trying to find the burials of my great grandparents GEORGE MANN 1848-1939 & MARY HEYWOOD 1848-1925 he was a coal dealer and lived in Burgess Hill I have looked at SFG burials but there doesn't seem much for Burgess Hill burials perhaps i'm not looking correct place any comments or help greatly appreciated. John Cave returning after a long absence

Hello John, Ancestry has a tree with a newspaper clipping that shows he was buried in St. Edwards churchyard. He was apparently a preacher there right up until his death. It also shows he was married twice and has further details. Maybe you could contact the tree owner. Regards, vic9082