Hi all I would like to publically say a big thank you to Brian for his swift response to my recent query regarding my elusive Wright family. His amazing research has enabled me to start to follow up this branch of the family and has opened new avenues of research! What a great group of people we have in SFHG! Regards to you all Marian On 29 June 2015 at 20:15, Brian Denn <brialing@o2.co.uk> wrote: > Marian, > > Looking on Ancestry it appears that the family went to Canada. > > Joseph sailed from Bristol to Quebec on the Royal Edward on 26/6/1912. > Harriett and the family followed on the Royal George on 4/9/1912 again from > Bristol to Quebec. > > The 1916 Canadian Census have them living in Calgary. > > I hope this helps you to research them more fully. > > Cheers, > > Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf > Of e-mail marian.hopkins via > Sent: 29 June 2015 18:08 > To: SFHG@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SFHG] Where did they go? > > Hello all > > I am hoping someone can help point me in the right direction! I have a > marriage cert for Joseph Wright (b Darlington) and Harriett Coates (b > Lewes) who m 10/06/1899. The cert records her father as Richard Coates > (deceased). The 1911C shows the couple and their three children Alfred, > Henry and Jack living in Lowfield Heath, Sussex. The whole family are > proving to be very elusive after this date and I wonder if anyone has any > ideas for routes of enquiry I can try to get a better picture of them? > > Having sent for Harriet's birth cert I am sure I have the right person as > the info from Census, certs etc all tie up. However, as always, there is > that little doubt - not helped by the range of trees etc on various > 'public' > sites showing no marriage for 'their' Harriett even though I have > discussed > the evidence with many of them! I would love to 'tie up' this particular > family so any advice given will be very gratefully received. > > Many thanks as always > > Kind Regards > > Marian > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6037 / Virus Database: 4365/10121 - Release Date: 06/29/15 > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6037 / Virus Database: 4365/10112 - Release Date: 06/28/15 > >

Marian, Looking on Ancestry it appears that the family went to Canada. Joseph sailed from Bristol to Quebec on the Royal Edward on 26/6/1912. Harriett and the family followed on the Royal George on 4/9/1912 again from Bristol to Quebec. The 1916 Canadian Census have them living in Calgary. I hope this helps you to research them more fully. Cheers, Brian -----Original Message----- From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of e-mail marian.hopkins via Sent: 29 June 2015 18:08 To: SFHG@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFHG] Where did they go? Hello all I am hoping someone can help point me in the right direction! I have a marriage cert for Joseph Wright (b Darlington) and Harriett Coates (b Lewes) who m 10/06/1899. The cert records her father as Richard Coates (deceased). The 1911C shows the couple and their three children Alfred, Henry and Jack living in Lowfield Heath, Sussex. The whole family are proving to be very elusive after this date and I wonder if anyone has any ideas for routes of enquiry I can try to get a better picture of them? Having sent for Harriet's birth cert I am sure I have the right person as the info from Census, certs etc all tie up. However, as always, there is that little doubt - not helped by the range of trees etc on various 'public' sites showing no marriage for 'their' Harriett even though I have discussed the evidence with many of them! I would love to 'tie up' this particular family so any advice given will be very gratefully received. Many thanks as always Kind Regards Marian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6037 / Virus Database: 4365/10121 - Release Date: 06/29/15 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6037 / Virus Database: 4365/10112 - Release Date: 06/28/15

Hello all I am hoping someone can help point me in the right direction! I have a marriage cert for Joseph Wright (b Darlington) and Harriett Coates (b Lewes) who m 10/06/1899. The cert records her father as Richard Coates (deceased). The 1911C shows the couple and their three children Alfred, Henry and Jack living in Lowfield Heath, Sussex. The whole family are proving to be very elusive after this date and I wonder if anyone has any ideas for routes of enquiry I can try to get a better picture of them? Having sent for Harriet's birth cert I am sure I have the right person as the info from Census, certs etc all tie up. However, as always, there is that little doubt - not helped by the range of trees etc on various 'public' sites showing no marriage for 'their' Harriett even though I have discussed the evidence with many of them! I would love to 'tie up' this particular family so any advice given will be very gratefully received. Many thanks as always Kind Regards Marian

I am researching two groups of WOOLGAR's who lived in SE Hampshire and Western Sussex in the 17th Century. The first of these WOOLGAR groups appears in Havant, HAN circa 1650 and sometimes used an alias of ANVILL or HANVILL. This family is very well connected. Descendants marry into the LEWINGTON, SANDHAM and GRIFFITHS families: they had extensive ownership of land, left many wills proved in the PCC and impressive MI's, especially those at Petworth and East Dean by Chichester, both in Sussex. The second group also appears in Havant, HAN, but in circa 1615. They appear to be closely connected with the SOANE or SONE family, with three intermarriages in two generations; and there are also marriages into the WOODER and LAVINGTON families. They may also be connected with the HARRIS family of Donnington, SSX, but this is much more vague at the moment. There is a William WOOLGAR in this group who purchased the Manor of Flood in Havant after the Restoration; there are also several PCC wills, but no MI's have been found so far. No connection has been found between these two family groups, try as I might! There are obvious similarities in the status of both groups and the WOOLGAR's are nowhere near as heavily represented in this area as they are elsewhere, e.g. the Adur Valley parishes, at this date. That all makes me want to persevere and see if a link can be found between them. I may need to widen my research next winter into the SOANE and HARRIS families in the hope that a connection may become apparent. Meanwhile, does any member of this List have any information on any of the above family names, within roughly the same geographical area and particularly the 17th Century, that they can share with me, please? Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323 PS I am also posting this message to the Sussex-Plus List, so my apologies if you should receive it twice.

I can't see a Hemsted in my reference books, but there are three Hempstead's that you may wish to consider in Arlington, Framfield, and Hellingly parishes; and also Hempstead Mill in Uckfield parish which once belonged to the Manor of Hempstead in Framfield. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

Barbara, On www.Streetmap.co.uk (which I always use) there is a Hemstead near Folkestone, in Kent. The only one. Might be worth a look... Jeff 3646 Tribe ONS In a message dated 09/06/2015 17:30:25 GMT Daylight Time, sfhg@rootsweb.com writes: I offer the following as a possibility. A small hamlet near Hailsham? Go to the following site and see if this might be what you are looking for: Hempstead Wood, Sussex | The Wildlife Trusts Hempstead Wood, Sussex | The Wildlife Trusts A small ancient wood near Hailsham in Sussex, listed by the SPNR for 'plants and insects'. View on www.wildlifetrusts.org Preview by Yahoo The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. ________________________________ From: Barbara Hymas via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> To: "SFHG@rootsweb.com" <SFHG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 12:03 PM Subject: [SFHG] Hemsted? Hi everyone,I need a little help finding a village or locality. I found my 6th great-grandparents marriage on the wonderful Sussex marriage CD! Very exciting. The place where my 6th great-grandfather was living at the time is Hemsted. I haven't been able to find this on my detailed map of England. Does anyone have any idea where this might be? I'm trying to figure out who my Richard Bishop is. He married Susanna (Mary) Adams in Nuthurst in 1726.Thank you so much for your help.Barbara Hymas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I offer the following as a possibility. A small hamlet near Hailsham? Go to the following site and see if this might be what you are looking for: Hempstead Wood, Sussex | The Wildlife Trusts Hempstead Wood, Sussex | The Wildlife Trusts A small ancient wood near Hailsham in Sussex, listed by the SPNR for 'plants and insects'. View on www.wildlifetrusts.org Preview by Yahoo The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. ________________________________ From: Barbara Hymas via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> To: "SFHG@rootsweb.com" <SFHG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 12:03 PM Subject: [SFHG] Hemsted? Hi everyone,I need a little help finding a village or locality. I found my 6th great-grandparents marriage on the wonderful Sussex marriage CD! Very exciting. The place where my 6th great-grandfather was living at the time is Hemsted. I haven't been able to find this on my detailed map of England. Does anyone have any idea where this might be? I'm trying to figure out who my Richard Bishop is. He married Susanna (Mary) Adams in Nuthurst in 1726.Thank you so much for your help.Barbara Hymas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Has anyone had experience looking at the Sussex militia records?  My ancestor, John Jenner, was in the militia.  I am trying to sift through the John Jenners in Sussex to see if I can figure out which Jenner family my John belongs to.  I was wondering if the military records could shed some light on the matter.  Thank you!!Barbara Hymas

Hi everyone,I need a little help finding a village or locality.  I found my 6th great-grandparents marriage on the wonderful Sussex marriage CD!  Very exciting.  The place where my 6th great-grandfather was living at the time is Hemsted.  I haven't been able to find this on my detailed map of England.  Does anyone have any idea where this might be?  I'm trying to figure out who my Richard Bishop is.  He married Susanna (Mary) Adams in Nuthurst in 1726.Thank you so much for your help.Barbara Hymas

> On 8 Jun 2015, at 23:53, sfhg-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 2 Jun 2015, at 09:46, Heather Brooks via <sussex-plus@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, I have never done research in Scotland before and would like to try and find Daniel Farquhar who married Jessie Mcivor 15th July 1920 in Elgin, Moray. They had 4 sons, Hendry?, Donald/Daniel?, Robert and Alfred, is there a free BMD like England. >> Regards Heather Brooks >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Hi Heather, Moray have a wonderful resource, a Local Heritage Centre housed in my wife’s old school. The staff (like our own library) are welcoming, friendly and knowledgable. I have spent many happy hours in there. They can be found here. www.moray.gov.uk/moray_standard/page_1537.html You can request help from the staff via this page or even use the LIBINDX link on that page and find your information there. They also hold microfilms of the main local newspapers one of which, The Courant, is the oldest newspaper (in the world?) in continuous publication. Regards, Trevor Pettitt 10402

Sorry will not be able to come tomorrow.  Regards Roger On 8 Jun 2015 06:54, christine payne via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > hello listers > tomorrow 9 June the meeting at St Andrews hall at 1x30 the topic is > My favourite ancestor. > Christine > God Bless > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hello listers tomorrow 9 June the meeting at St Andrews hall at 1x30 the topic is My favourite ancestor. Christine God Bless

There is free access to www.ancestry.co.uk this weekend from 5 June 2015 at 00:01 GMT until 7 June 2015 at 23:59 GMT. You will need to register as a Guest and provide your E-mail address. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

Hi I think there is an ongoing free search site similar to FreeBSD, but much less complete. I found it by googling, but didn't find anything useful to me - sorry, can't remember the name.I have used Scotland's People a lot in the past. You have to register, and buy 30 credits at a time - about £7 UK I think. It is very comprehensive, and has original records, and you can download entries in many cases. I have found it well worth it, especially if you know enough details to limit your search parameters. There is also quite a lot on the LDS familysearch, but probably not as useful for searching 1920s Good hunting Alison Sent from my iPad > On 2 Jun 2015, at 09:46, Heather Brooks via <sussex-plus@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi, I have never done research in Scotland before and would like to try and find Daniel Farquhar who married Jessie Mcivor 15th July 1920 in Elgin, Moray. They had 4 sons, Hendry?, Donald/Daniel?, Robert and Alfred, is there a free BMD like England. > Regards Heather Brooks > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I have never done research in Scotland before and would like to try and find Daniel Farquhar who married Jessie Mcivor 15th July 1920 in Elgin, Moray. They had 4 sons, Hendry?, Donald/Daniel?, Robert and Alfred, is there a free BMD like England. Regards Heather Brooks

From: austengenealogy@outlook.com To: dinahpi@aol.com CC: sfhg-l@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SFHG] Harriet Morris Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 17:16:25 +1030 The only suggestion that I can make is that the last source you should rely on is the death certificate regards joe austen 9934 in oz > Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 18:08:09 -0400 > To: SFHG@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SFHG] Harriet Morris > From: sfhg@rootsweb.com > > > I am trying to get correct information for my great-grandmother Harriet Morris Shaw, born in Henfield, Ashburnham, Sussex on 30 Jul 1841. She died in Detroit, Michigan, USA on 13 Nov 1916. I have her father listed as Thomas Morris from a 1861 census and a brother Edward Morris. However, her death certificate shows her parents as George Morris and May Ann Fordick. she had a sister we called Aunt Mite, whose name was Mary Ann Morris born in 1840. How can I determine the correct information or should I assume that the death certificate is correct? Any parish records I could check? as I would also like to find her grandparents and so forth. > > I have the passenger list when the family immigrated to Canada in 1883. The list includes Harriet, her husband Henry C Shaw and several children including my grandfather Harold Shaw. There are other people listed but I cannot read the writing. Does anyone know if that information might have been transcribed and thus more legible? > > Any suggestions are much appreciated > > Dinah Penn Shaw > Antigua, Guatemala > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The only suggestion that I can make is that the last source you should rely on is the death certificate regards joe austen 9934 in oz > Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 18:08:09 -0400 > To: SFHG@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SFHG] Harriet Morris > From: sfhg@rootsweb.com > > > I am trying to get correct information for my great-grandmother Harriet Morris Shaw, born in Henfield, Ashburnham, Sussex on 30 Jul 1841. She died in Detroit, Michigan, USA on 13 Nov 1916. I have her father listed as Thomas Morris from a 1861 census and a brother Edward Morris. However, her death certificate shows her parents as George Morris and May Ann Fordick. she had a sister we called Aunt Mite, whose name was Mary Ann Morris born in 1840. How can I determine the correct information or should I assume that the death certificate is correct? Any parish records I could check? as I would also like to find her grandparents and so forth. > > I have the passenger list when the family immigrated to Canada in 1883. The list includes Harriet, her husband Henry C Shaw and several children including my grandfather Harold Shaw. There are other people listed but I cannot read the writing. Does anyone know if that information might have been transcribed and thus more legible? > > Any suggestions are much appreciated > > Dinah Penn Shaw > Antigua, Guatemala > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you looked at http://www.mhms.org.uk MyHouseMyStreet which has street directories for Brighton and Hove? Judy Excell -----Original Message----- From: Neal Ward via Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 7:15 PM To: sfhg@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFHG] Marriage Settlement Dear Listers, I have found a Statutory Notice in a 1893 newspaper that refers to a Settlement in favour of Philly Mann of Brighton dated 27th April 1865, a couple of weeks before she married my grandfather's brother Thomas Ward, a builder. Philly Ward died on 22nd February 1893, and according to a subsequent advertisement, the trustees of the Marriage Settlement offered several properties in Brighton for sale by auction. These were 28 Chatham Place, 3 Bath Street (where Philly Ward died), 45 Red Cross Street, 20 Kingsbury road, and 25, 26 and 27 Jersey Street. I would very much like to learn more about these houses and how Philly Mann came by them. I strongly suspect that Philly, who came from a lowly family in Mayfield, and, as a servant was convicted of larceny in 1845 and served 4 months imprisonment, later became the mistress of a wealthy benefactor, with whom she had 8 illegitimate children. I would love to find out who he was! She had a further 2 children with Thomas Ward in 1864 and 1867, and most of her children were privately educated. The trustees names are given as George Ansell and Albert Chapman. George Ansell was a kinsman of Thomas Ward, and George and his wife had been witnesses at Thomas and Philly's marriage in 1865. I don't know anything about Albert Chapman. Apart from the newspaper report in 1893 (which does not make it clear whether Thomas is still in Brighton, or even if he is still alive), I cannot find any more references to Thomas Ward after the birth of his second child in 1867. My understanding is that Marriage Settlements, unlike Wills, were private documents and are unlikely to have survived, but it is possible that the 19th century ownership of the above mentioned houses are recorded in the title deeds. I would be grateful for any comments or advice. Neal Ward 9743 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My paternal great-grandmother, Harriet Morris, was born in Hensfield, Ashburnham, Sussex on 30 Jul 1841, I believe. This date of birth was on her death certidicate 13 Nov 1916 in Detroit, Michigan, USA. I am trying to determine who her parents were. I located a 1861 census indicating that her father was Thomas Morris with a sibling of Edward Morris and Harriet's age as 18 (DPB about 1953) However, my cousin, has her father as George Morris, mother Mary Ann Fordick, and a sibling of Mary Ann Morris born 1846. The family immigrated to Canada and then Michigan. Harriet is listed on the passenger list with her husband Henry Charles Shaw. I can't read it well enough to tell if Mary Ann was included. There are other people listed in that group, but the handwriting is too poor to read. Are those lists transcribed anywhere so I can read it better? We all remember hearing about Aunt Mite, aka Mary Ann Fordick. No mention was ever made of a brother Edward. My cousin obtained the date of birth and parent's names from Harriet's death certificate. Am I to assume that the 1861 census I had with her father as Thomas Morris is wrong? It seems to me that information on a death certificate would be pretty accurate. Are there any parish records I could check on? What else can I do to determine Harriet's parents and perhaps grandparents? Any help much appreciated. Thank you Dinah Penn Shaw

Dinah, The SFHG Data Archive has at Ashburnham a Harriet Morris baptism 31/10/1841, parents George and Mary Ann, George being a groom. Also a Mary Anne Morris baptism 19/5/1839, parents Samuel and Mary, Samuel being a labourer. FreeBMD shows Marriages Mar 1841 FOSDICK Mary Ann Battle 7 281 MORRIS George Battle 7 281 rather than May Ann Fordick but it's the transcribed typed version Marriages Sep 1865 Morris Harriet Marylebone 1a 1051 Shaw Henry Charles Marylebone 1a 1051 the m/c shows father George Morris, Livery stable keeper The 1900 US Census is unclear Henry born June 1844 age 55 (56 deleted) Harriett born July 1841/5/6 all overwritten, age 55 Marion Morris sister-in-law Jan 1860 40 The 1910 US census has Mary Morris as the sister-in-law with the three ages 70, 69, and 56. There is a UK census entry in 1861 with Thomas Morris head and daughter Harriet, aged 23 from Guestling, Sussex, but she is still single in 1871. Didn't see an Edward there. The correct 1861 census seems to be St Marylebone Abercorn, Lodge, all servants. George Morris 44 widower coachman Ashburnham Harriett 21 Battle Mary Ann 14 Middlesex St Marylebone Rachel 12 Middlesex St Marylebone So I'd forget Thomas and Edward, make George and Mary Ann Fosdick the parents, and revise sister Mary Ann's age. For the record I agree with Joe - death certificates are very dependent on the person providing the information. Alan 1350 Dinah via wrote on 18/05/2015 23:08: > > I am trying to get correct information for my great-grandmother Harriet Morris Shaw, born in Henfield, Ashburnham, Sussex on 30 Jul 1841. She died in Detroit, Michigan, USA on 13 Nov 1916. I have her father listed as Thomas Morris from a 1861 census and a brother Edward Morris. However, her death certificate shows her parents as George Morris and May Ann Fordick. she had a sister we called Aunt Mite, whose name was Mary Ann Morris born in 1840. How can I determine the correct information or should I assume that the death certificate is correct? Any parish records I could check? as I would also like to find her grandparents and so forth. > > I have the passenger list when the family immigrated to Canada in 1883. The list includes Harriet, her husband Henry C Shaw and several children including my grandfather Harold Shaw. There are other people listed but I cannot read the writing. Does anyone know if that information might have been transcribed and thus more legible? > > Any suggestions are much appreciated > > Dinah Penn Shaw > Antigua, Guatemala