You are correct, there is no author named for this article. It is therefore possible that it was penned by one of the editors, Michael Burchall or Stephen Warden. Michael Burchall is a regular contributor to the SFHG Mailing List and, if he wrote the original article 40 years ago, there is just a chance that he might remember it. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

I should have known, my friend! Thanks to you and Marion for replying!d The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. From: Michael Burchall <mjburchall@hotmail.com> To: SFHG rootsweb <sfhg-l@rootsweb.com>; Donna Casey <donnacasey@yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [SFHG] To Marion Woolgar - Sussex Family Historian, Vol 2, no. 3 pp 84-86: Author? #yiv1214331866 #yiv1214331866 --.yiv1214331866EmailQuote {margin-left:1pt;padding-left:4pt;border-left:#800000 2px solid;}#yiv1214331866 #yiv1214331866 #yiv1214331866 --p.yiv1214331866MsoListParagraph, #yiv1214331866 li.yiv1214331866MsoListParagraph, #yiv1214331866 div.yiv1214331866MsoListParagraph {margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;}#yiv1214331866 p.yiv1214331866MsoNormal, #yiv1214331866 li.yiv1214331866MsoNormal, #yiv1214331866 div.yiv1214331866MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;}#yiv1214331866 p.yiv1214331866MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst, #yiv1214331866 li.yiv1214331866MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst, #yiv1214331866 div.yiv1214331866MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst, #yiv1214331866 p.yiv1214331866MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle, #yiv1214331866 li.yiv1214331866MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle, #yiv1214331866 div.yiv1214331866MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle, #yiv1214331866 p.yiv1214331866MsoListParagraphCxSpLast, #yiv1214331866 li.yiv1214331866MsoListParagraphCxSpLast, #yiv1214331866 div.yiv1214331866MsoListParagraphCxSpLast {margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:115%;}#yiv1214331866 The article on the Protestation was written by me! Michael Burchall Sent from Windows Mail From: sfhgemails Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎31‎ ‎August‎ ‎2015 ‎14‎:‎59 To: SFHG rootsweb Marion, I remember that you have the SFH on a CD and since Volume 2 of SFH is not on-line, I have a favour. I need to confirm there is no author listed for the following article: "East Sussex Protestation, 1641", SFH Volume 2, no. 3, pp. 84-86. I have a copy of the article, however, no author shows.Possibly there was no author shown for this article.But need to confirm this. Can you check this when you have time? Donna Tillinghast CaseyMichigan, USA The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails.   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The article on the Protestation was written by me! Michael Burchall Sent from Windows Mail From: sfhgemails Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎31‎ ‎August‎ ‎2015 ‎14‎:‎59 To: SFHG rootsweb Marion, I remember that you have the SFH on a CD and since Volume 2 of SFH is not on-line, I have a favour. I need to confirm there is no author listed for the following article: "East Sussex Protestation, 1641", SFH Volume 2, no. 3, pp. 84-86. I have a copy of the article, however, no author shows.Possibly there was no author shown for this article.But need to confirm this. Can you check this when you have time? Donna Tillinghast CaseyMichigan, USA The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marion, I remember that you have the SFH on a CD and since Volume 2 of SFH is not on-line, I have a favour. I need to confirm there is no author listed for the following article: "East Sussex Protestation, 1641", SFH Volume 2, no. 3, pp. 84-86. I have a copy of the article, however, no author shows.Possibly there was no author shown for this article.But need to confirm this. Can you check this when you have time? Donna Tillinghast CaseyMichigan, USA The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails.

I am formatting footnotes for a book and need to get the complete information for the Sussex Family Historian.I know it is a quarterly journal and will be formatted as such using Chicago Manual Style.However, I am not sure who the publisher is?Is the publisher to be stated as Sussex Family History Group?  or Parchment Ltd. Printworks, Oxford? Thanks,Donna Tillinghast CaseyMichigan The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails.

The case will be listed in my “Sussex Criminals and Victims 1826-1850” which can be obtained from SFHG publications officer (see website). There are three CDs available for the period 1767-1850 covering all the cases which came before Quarter Sessions in East and West Sussex. The details given on the CDs include name, sometimes age, location, offence, jurors names, verdict an sentence. The original records are at East Sussex Record Office but microfilm copies can be found at West Sussex Record Office. Michael Burchall Sent from Windows Mail From: sfhgemails Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎30‎ ‎August‎ ‎2015 ‎10‎:‎15 To: sfhgemails That sounds like Quarter Sessions rather than Assizes. Presumably he was tried in Chichester. The records will be at West Sussex Record Office. On 29 August 2015 at 20:51, Christine Jackson via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello listers > Does anyone know where in Sussex the trial would have been held and the > sentence served - in the case of a young man (17) from the > Loxwood/Wisborough Green area who was tried for the crime of larceny at the > "1834 Easter Session, Western Division"? (presumably the Assizes) > I suspect it may have been Midhurst or Petworth but the record at Ancestry > does not say & I can't find any more info at the TNA site. > (Sentence was 3 months in prison.) > Any info on this much appreciatedChristine JacksonSFHG 397 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some years ago I traced an ancestor of my husband who was transported to Australia for stealing and killing a sheep at Horsham. This is how I found his record. I looked in the card index at Chichester and found his name with bare details of his case. Then, also at Chichester, I found a transcript of his trial at Petworth Assizes. He was found guilty and sent to Pentonville prison awaiting transport. Further searches at Kew revealed the name of the ship he travelled on and the fact that he was granted a Conditional Pardon while on the journey out. I discovered that the 'condition' was that he did not return until the expiry of his original sentence. Records also showed that he disembarked at Melbourne, and proceeded to Geelong. I wrote to the Geelong Family History Group, who were most helpful. They searched the records in the State Library of Victoria, the New South Wales records and the Archives Office of Tasmania and struck lucky in that there was a record of his death and the inquest into that. Further details uncovered showed that he was employed at a sheep station, made a good life for himself and was well thought of. It's well worth trying the Australian records and Family History groups. I found them extremely helpful. Hope this helps Rose Chitty

I think that Ruth is right that the case may well have been tried in the Quarter Sessions. You don't give the name of the person concerned, so I cannot search for the precise record, but I believe that Ancestry have the records of prisoners from TNA refs HO26 and HO27 and not from Assize records which are catalogued under TNA refs beginning with ASSI. There is a catalogue of Quarter Sessions in the Western Division at WSRO and I can check that for you during my next WSRO visit, currently planned for next Saturday. I have used it once before and I seem to remember that it includes the dates of the various sessions. Also, I think that WSRO has a card index to the to the West Sussex Quarter Sessions Rolls up to 1850, so there might be some information in there as well. If you would like me to do that, please let me have a copy of the image that you have found and the name of the particular prisoner that you are researching. WSRO does have registers for Petworth Prison, but for a much later date. I don't recollect any gaol delivery records at all for Horsham Prison, but I can enquire to be quite sure about that. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

That sounds like Quarter Sessions rather than Assizes. Presumably he was tried in Chichester. The records will be at West Sussex Record Office. On 29 August 2015 at 20:51, Christine Jackson via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello listers > Does anyone know where in Sussex the trial would have been held and the > sentence served - in the case of a young man (17) from the > Loxwood/Wisborough Green area who was tried for the crime of larceny at the > "1834 Easter Session, Western Division"? (presumably the Assizes) > I suspect it may have been Midhurst or Petworth but the record at Ancestry > does not say & I can't find any more info at the TNA site. > (Sentence was 3 months in prison.) > Any info on this much appreciatedChristine JacksonSFHG 397 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello listers Does anyone know where in Sussex the trial would have been held and the sentence served - in the case of a young man (17) from the Loxwood/Wisborough Green area who was tried for the crime of larceny at the "1834 Easter Session, Western Division"? (presumably the Assizes) I suspect it may have been Midhurst or Petworth but the record at Ancestry does not say & I can't find any more info at the TNA site. (Sentence was 3 months in prison.) Any info on this much appreciatedChristine JacksonSFHG 397

Hi David, It would be almost certain that your ancestor stayed in Australia. Most convicts were transported to Australia with the proviso that they NEVER returned to England. Those that did were exceptions, and probably were illegal returnees. Most convicts were eventually released or were granted Tickets-of-Leave before finishing their sentences. Any further crimes carried out by convicts in Australia were severely punished. Most convicts did very well in Australia, far better than they would have ever done if they had lived in England (if they had not been transported and assuming they avoided the hangman in the first place). I suggest you keep looking in Australian records. All the best Lyndon Arnold Melbourne Australia -----Original Message----- From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Mills via Sent: Thursday, 27 August 2015 6:00 AM To: SFHG@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFHG] Convicts sent to Australia - how did they return? My 4th Great-grandfather, one Edmund GREENFIELD b 1790 in Fernhurst, was transported to Australia in 1828 for 7 years for stealing 3 geese (6 reported in one record). There are a number of documents evidencing his shipment, arrival, placement and eventual Freedom in Australia in 1836. I have not found a convincing record of his return and subsequent life in Sussex. I have also not found any record of him after 1837 (in Australia). How did convicts who served their term get back to England from Australia? Did they have to make their own way or did they get taken back in returning convict ships? Where might such return voyage records be found ( Ancestry and Find My Past don’t seem to have any)? I also can’t find any further record of him in Australia, if he stayed. Sadly, most of his family left behind in Pulborough also suffered by being removed in 1828 under “Removal Orders” per Poor Law Records from Pulborough (home of Edmund’s parents & siblings and birthplace of Edmund’s children) to Broadwater (with no family connection?). Given the family base, his wife’s Christening Place and her parent’s birthplace were all in Pulborough, this is another mystery. I also don’t know why, only 2 of his 5 children were given Removal Orders, although the eldest may have already have left home and not been included. Regards, David Mills Haywards Heath Mem. No. not known ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My 4th Great-grandfather, one Edmund GREENFIELD b 1790 in Fernhurst, was transported to Australia in 1828 for 7 years for stealing 3 geese (6 reported in one record). There are a number of documents evidencing his shipment, arrival, placement and eventual Freedom in Australia in 1836. I have not found a convincing record of his return and subsequent life in Sussex. I have also not found any record of him after 1837 (in Australia). How did convicts who served their term get back to England from Australia? Did they have to make their own way or did they get taken back in returning convict ships? Where might such return voyage records be found ( Ancestry and Find My Past don’t seem to have any)? I also can’t find any further record of him in Australia, if he stayed. Sadly, most of his family left behind in Pulborough also suffered by being removed in 1828 under “Removal Orders” per Poor Law Records from Pulborough (home of Edmund’s parents & siblings and birthplace of Edmund’s children) to Broadwater (with no family connection?). Given the family base, his wife’s Christening Place and her parent’s birthplace were all in Pulborough, this is another mystery. I also don’t know why, only 2 of his 5 children were given Removal Orders, although the eldest may have already have left home and not been included. Regards, David Mills Haywards Heath Mem. No. not known

Access to www.ancestry.co.uk is free this weekend. The details of this offer are: " Access to the records in the featured collections will be free from 28 August until 11:59 p.m. GMT on 31 August 2015. To view these records you will need to register for free with Ancestry.co.uk with your name and email address. We will then send you a username and password to access the records. After the free access period ends, you will only be able to view the records in the featured collections using an Ancestry.co.uk paid membership." For a list of the accessible collections under this offer, go to http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/group/uk_irish_records?o_xid=67196&o_lid =67196&o_sch=Email+-+Campaigns and then scroll down the page. I am copying this information to the Sussex-Plus Mailing List, so my apologies if you should receive it twice. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

Bergen op Zoom is a town in the Netherlands. I am always interested that place names are reflected / duplicated across the channel. For example, Brede in Sussex, Breda in Noord Brabant the Netherlands. Regards Karen Webster. On 16 Aug 2015 9:07 am, "Donna Casey via" <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Here is the information I finally located on "Burges Nob Zone" which is > actually "Bergen Op Zoom" a Listed II Cottage in Ashurst, Sussex. > > On The National Archives site I found a document of the following: > > > THE ASHURST ESTATE, ASHURST AND WEST GRINSTEAD, SUSSEX > Ref: SC01089 > Within which is: > Bergen-Op-Zoom, Horsebridge Common, Ashurst, West Sussex > > > I also found the cottage as a listed II building on > British Listed Buildings:Bergen-Op-Zoom Cottage - Ashurst - West Sussex - > England | > > > > View on: > www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk Preview by Yahoo > > > I hope this clears up my question and answer to everyone who replied. > > Donna > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I agree Karen, I have always been interested in village names and how they came to be.I had seen several writings that referred to the town in Netherlands. I'm glad I finally found the correct spelling of the village and its early "ancestor". Donna The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. From: Karen Webster <news4kaz@gmail.com> To: Donna Casey <donnacasey@yahoo.com>; sfhg@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [SFHG] Update on finding "Burges Nob Zone" aka "Bergen Op Zoom" in Ashurst. Bergen op Zoom is a town in the Netherlands.  I am always interested that place names are reflected / duplicated across the channel.  For example, Brede in Sussex, Breda in Noord Brabant the Netherlands. Regards Karen Webster.  On 16 Aug 2015 9:07 am, "Donna Casey via" <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: Here is the information I finally located on "Burges Nob Zone" which is actually "Bergen Op Zoom" a Listed II Cottage in Ashurst, Sussex. On The National Archives site I found a document of the following: THE ASHURST ESTATE, ASHURST AND WEST GRINSTEAD, SUSSEX Ref: SC01089 Within which is: Bergen-Op-Zoom, Horsebridge Common, Ashurst, West Sussex I also found the cottage as a listed II building on British Listed Buildings:Bergen-Op-Zoom Cottage - Ashurst - West Sussex - England | View on: www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk Preview by Yahoo I hope this clears up my question and answer to everyone who replied. Donna ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear All I would like to take this opportunity to say a big public thank you to Carol, Brian and Marion for all their help in response to my recent request regarding the elusive Wright family! Brian managed to find Gladys - she who remained hidden despite my years of searching! I will follow the suggestions made regarding the Inquest and was very excited to read Marion's info re the 1939 Register! Thanks for sharing that with us who had not heard about it! As always I am very grateful to all the SFHG members who always take the time to help out with all the queries posted. Responses are always quick and helpful and always leave me in awe of all the knowledge and resourcefulness you all hold! Many thanks again Marian

I could not count the ways SFHG listers have helped me through the years with my Sussex and TILLINGHAST queries.I second Marian's Kudos!Donna Tillinghast CaseyMichigah, USA The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. From: e-mail marian.hopkins via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> To: SFHG@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 10:47 AM Subject: [SFHG] (no subject) Dear All I would like to take this opportunity to say a big public thank you to Carol, Brian and Marion for all their help in response to my recent request regarding the elusive Wright family! Brian managed to find Gladys - she who remained hidden despite my years of searching!  I will follow the suggestions made regarding the Inquest and was very excited to read Marion's info re the 1939 Register!  Thanks for sharing that with us who had not heard about it! As always I am very grateful to all the SFHG  members who always take the time to help out with all the queries posted.  Responses are always quick and helpful and always leave me in awe of all the knowledge and resourcefulness you all hold! Many thanks again Marian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you scan the photos to jpegs try uploading them, one at a time, to Google Images. Google will then check them against all the images in its database and report any matches. To upload the images just select the little camera in the Google Images search bar. Chris Chris Shepheard - from the Kindle On 23 August 2015, at 20:36, Diana Burns via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: >This afternoon I bought an old (Victorian?) photograph album at an >antique fair.  It shows pictures of a magnificent mansion house, >exterior and interior, a lovely garden, a village church (interior and >exterior) and a couple of photos of people (two women on a stile and >small boys playing).  I wondered if there was any organisation that >might help me identify the property - the National Trust and English >Heritage came to mind but I suspect there are others.  Advice >gratefully received. >Diana Burns >No. 9914 >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This afternoon I bought an old (Victorian?) photograph album at an antique fair. It shows pictures of a magnificent mansion house, exterior and interior, a lovely garden, a village church (interior and exterior) and a couple of photos of people (two women on a stile and small boys playing). I wondered if there was any organisation that might help me identify the property - the National Trust and English Heritage came to mind but I suspect there are others. Advice gratefully received. Diana Burns No. 9914

The survival of Coroners' records is very patchy and it is usually said that a researchers best chance of finding the details of the evidence given at an Inquest is to try and find a report of the proceedings in a local newspaper. However, in this case, the Inquest took place in 1944, a time when the size of newspapers was severely restricted due to the lack of paper. I suggest that you send an E-mail to Herefordshire Record Office, giving them the details on the Death Certificate and ask them if they hold the records of that particular Coroner. Where they survive, these records are normally closed for 75 years, so you will have a few years to wait before they enter the public domain, but it will be useful to know whether the record exists, or not. At the same time, you could ask for the name(s) of the newspapers that were circulating in the Ledbury area during May 1944 and whether they hold copies, either as original newspapers or on microfilm or microfiche. Also, The British Newspaper Archive at www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk now has an extensive catalogue of newspapers online and they can also be found on www.findmypast.co.uk . So, once you have the name(s) of the newspapers, you could make a search on one of those sites. If you have exhausted all the usual research material, your search for Gladys Mary Stainsbury Wright could get a boost later this year. The 1939 Register is due to be published by Findmypast and this is the document that was compiled in anticipation of WW2, kept up-to-date into the early 1950's and was used for the issue of Identity Cards and Ration Books. If Gladys Mary Stainsbury Wright was alive in 1939, she must be on this Register or she would have starved. So, you only have to be patient for a few more months! As the 1931 census was destroyed and there was no census taken in 1941, the 1939 Register is going to be a very important data source for family historians. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323