As someone from the US, I never knew Colin…but after reading the below, I can see that he contributed much to SFHG. I belong to a genealogy group in Wisconsin and it is very hard finding good volunteers—and often it falls on just the shoulders of a few. He seems to have been one of these special people. DeAnn (from Wisconsin, US) > On Sep 10, 2015, at 4:44 PM, Marion Woolgar via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I am proud to have known Colin Excell. Under his leadership as our > Chairman, SFHG moved from the 20th to the 21st Century. There are so many > things that were achieved when he was Chairman and the following are but a > selection: > > The growth of the SFHG Web Site; > The development of the Frontis site that enables our Members, wherever they > are in the World, to advance their research; > The partnership with the PRTS that has ensured that the data from all the > West Sussex parish registers up to 1900 is now accessible; > The creation of the SFHG Events Team that attends family history fairs to > advise on research problems from members and Non-Members alike; > The SFHG Room at The Keep; > And so much more.... > > Of course, he was supported by our Executive Committee and by all our active > volunteers, but It is perhaps only now that he has passed from us, that we > will become aware of all the numerous small things that he contributed to > our Group. > > I learned of Colin's passing on Monday evening when our current Chairman, > Mick Henry, was kind enough to telephone me with the news. That same > evening, I raised a glass to Colin's memory and I encourage you all to do > the same. This was a man who deserves to be remembered with every respect. > > Don't forget Judy Excell either. She has lost a husband, friend, fellow > family historian and so much more besides. So, I echo Mick's request that > we remember Judy in our thoughts and prayers in the very difficult weeks and > months that follow. > > Marion Woolgar > Bognor Regis, West Sussex > SFHG Member No: 3323 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message DeAnn McAllan 809 Acacia Lane Madison, WI 53716 510-501-0528

The West Sussex Archives Society are holding a conference at Oving on Saturday 10th October and it is open to both Members and Non-Members. If you are interested in attending, you will find full details of the programme for the day on their web site. Go to http://westsussexarchivessociety.webplus.net/page3.html and click on the link to October on the right of the page. You will find a booking form at the bottom of the page. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

I know that many members have been watching the progress of the PRTS project to transcribe all the deposited registers for the ancient parishes of West Sussex up to circa 1900. So you may like to turn to pages 334 and 344 of the latest edition of Sussex Family Historian to see the announcement by Joe Bysh that the project has been completed. It's an amazing achievement! Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/gallipoli-was-not-churchills-great-folly-20110413-1ddzb.html -----Original Message----- From: Robert Lee via Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 1:21 PM To: Cordelia Hull Cc: SFHG SxFamHXGrp Subject: Re: [SFHG] Thank you so much Who did stuff it up. Someone did. Robert Lee

Who did stuff it up. Someone did. Robert Lee Melbourne > On 4 Sep 2015, at 8:06 am, Cordelia Hull via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Thank you to everyone who has helped with Edwin Walter Heasman's naval > record, especially Marion for going the extra mile and discovering that his > medals were auctioned in 2007. > > As an English migrant to Australia I have always squirmed when the 'Story > of Anzac' (Gallipoli / Dardanelles) was told by Australians. Part of their > story (myth?) seems to be that the British stuffed it up and caused > needless Australian deaths. > > Now I can be comforted that my grandfather's cousin (Ernest Walter Heasman) > at least got a DSM as part of the 'stuff-up'. :-) > > Thanks once again. > > Cordelia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you to everyone who has helped with Edwin Walter Heasman's naval record, especially Marion for going the extra mile and discovering that his medals were auctioned in 2007. As an English migrant to Australia I have always squirmed when the 'Story of Anzac' (Gallipoli / Dardanelles) was told by Australians. Part of their story (myth?) seems to be that the British stuffed it up and caused needless Australian deaths. Now I can be comforted that my grandfather's cousin (Ernest Walter Heasman) at least got a DSM as part of the 'stuff-up'. :-) Thanks once again. Cordelia

Hi Marion The document I have is the entry for Edwin Walter Heasman (b. Tenterden Kent 7 Jun 1887) in the UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services 1900-1928. I found it through Ancestry.com The note in question is in bottom RH corner. Cordelia On 3 September 2015 at 17:30, Marion Woolgar <listmail008@btinternet.com> wrote: > The abbreviation PCM usually stands for Per Calendar Month. As you say he > was injured, perhaps this could be referring to an award of either a > pension > or a disability allowance? As you do not give any personal details, it > isn't possible to look at the document that you are referring to. > > Best wishes, > > Marion Woolgar > Bognor Regis, West Sussex > SFHG Member No: 3323 > > >

hello listers Tuesday is the roffey meeting at st Andrews church hall 1x30 the topic is railway workers. Christine God Bless

Just hit a snag. I have discovered that: 'The DCM remained an exclusively Army award until 1942' My guy was in the Navy and it was 1915. Cordelia On 3 September 2015 at 16:47, Ray Tuck <rtuck46@gmail.com> wrote: > Your welcome > > On 3 September 2015 at 07:45, Cordelia Hull <cordeliamary@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Yes, it could be DCM on more careful peering. Distinguished Conduct >> Medal. Now I will need to discover if he was actually awarded it. :-) >> >> Thanks for replying. >> >> Cordelia >> >> On 3 September 2015 at 16:33, Ray Tuck <rtuck46@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Are you sure that it is PCM and not DCM Distinguished Conduct Medal >>> Ray >>> >>> On 3 September 2015 at 04:53, Cordelia Hull via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Can anyone help me with a comment on a WW1 Royal Navy record for one of >>>> my >>>> Heasman ancestral relatives? >>>> >>>> It says that in Sep 1915, he was recommended for PCM in connection with >>>> operations in Gallipoli. >>>> >>>> What does PCM stand for / mean? >>>> >>>> He had been slightly wounded in action on 16 Aug 1915 (presumably at >>>> Gallipoli) if that is of any relevance. >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> >>>> Cordelia >>>> 14526 >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >> >

Yes, it could be DCM on more careful peering. Distinguished Conduct Medal. Now I will need to discover if he was actually awarded it. :-) Thanks for replying. Cordelia On 3 September 2015 at 16:33, Ray Tuck <rtuck46@gmail.com> wrote: > Are you sure that it is PCM and not DCM Distinguished Conduct Medal > Ray > > On 3 September 2015 at 04:53, Cordelia Hull via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> Can anyone help me with a comment on a WW1 Royal Navy record for one of my >> Heasman ancestral relatives? >> >> It says that in Sep 1915, he was recommended for PCM in connection with >> operations in Gallipoli. >> >> What does PCM stand for / mean? >> >> He had been slightly wounded in action on 16 Aug 1915 (presumably at >> Gallipoli) if that is of any relevance. >> >> Thank you >> >> Cordelia >> 14526 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

Thanks for the extra information and I have now looked at the image of the Service Record. I see your problem with the note regarding the recommendation that he be awarded either the PCM or DCM. However, underneath that, there is another note that he was 'Gazetted' on 16 Aug 1915 for the award of the DSM - the Distinguished Service Medal. Could the reference to the recommendation for the PCM/DCM be a slip of the pen? Whilst I was looking at this particular problem, I found that the Royal Navy Submarine Museum purchased the medals of Edwin Walter Heasman in 2008 when they were auctioned by Dix Noonan Webb. The details of the set of medals can be found at http://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archive/catalogue-archive/lot.php?auction_id=10 1 <http://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archive/catalogue-archive/lot.php?auction_id=1 01&lot_id=58696> &lot_id=58696 and it includes a DCM. Perhaps if you write to the Museum, they may be able to give you some extra information? Their web site is at https://www.submarine-museum.co.uk/ Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

There is another entry at the bottom of the RH side that refers to the London Gazette. If you search for E W Heasman on the Gazette site, you will see an award of the DSM, so I think the D(P)CM above is a mistake. Neal ---------------------------------------- > Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 21:43:21 +1000 > To: listmail008@btinternet.com > CC: sfhg-l@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SFHG] PCM in connection with Gallipoli > From: sfhg@rootsweb.com > > Hi Marion > > The document I have is the entry for Edwin Walter Heasman (b. Tenterden > Kent 7 Jun 1887) in the UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services > 1900-1928. > > I found it through Ancestry.com > > The note in question is in bottom RH corner. > > Cordelia > > On 3 September 2015 at 17:30, Marion Woolgar <listmail008@btinternet.com> > wrote: > >> The abbreviation PCM usually stands for Per Calendar Month. As you say he >> was injured, perhaps this could be referring to an award of either a >> pension >> or a disability allowance? As you do not give any personal details, it >> isn't possible to look at the document that you are referring to. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Marion Woolgar >> Bognor Regis, West Sussex >> SFHG Member No: 3323 >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone help me with a comment on a WW1 Royal Navy record for one of my Heasman ancestral relatives? It says that in Sep 1915, he was recommended for PCM in connection with operations in Gallipoli. What does PCM stand for / mean? He had been slightly wounded in action on 16 Aug 1915 (presumably at Gallipoli) if that is of any relevance. Thank you Cordelia 14526

See : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dardanelles_campaign_medal Graham On 03/09/2015 08:22, Ian Clark via wrote: > I wonder if the Navy issued a Dardanelles Campaign Medal, as they were patrolling the D Straits for some years. Ian C from his Nexus > > On 3 Sep 2015 7:53 am, Cordelia Hull via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> Just hit a snag. I have discovered that: 'The DCM remained an exclusively >> Army award until 1942' >> >> My guy was in the Navy and it was 1915. >> >> Cordelia >> >> On 3 September 2015 at 16:47, Ray Tuck <rtuck46@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Your welcome >>> >>> On 3 September 2015 at 07:45, Cordelia Hull <cordeliamary@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, it could be DCM on more careful peering. Distinguished Conduct >>>> Medal. Now I will need to discover if he was actually awarded it. :-) >>>> >>>> Thanks for replying. >>>> >>>> Cordelia >>>> >>>> On 3 September 2015 at 16:33, Ray Tuck <rtuck46@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Are you sure that it is PCM and not DCM Distinguished Conduct Medal >>>>> Ray >>>>> >>>>> On 3 September 2015 at 04:53, Cordelia Hull via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Can anyone help me with a comment on a WW1 Royal Navy record for one of >>>>>> my >>>>>> Heasman ancestral relatives? >>>>>> >>>>>> It says that in Sep 1915, he was recommended for PCM in connection with >>>>>> operations in Gallipoli. >>>>>> >>>>>> What does PCM stand for / mean? >>>>>> >>>>>> He had been slightly wounded in action on 16 Aug 1915 (presumably at >>>>>> Gallipoli) if that is of any relevance. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> >>>>>> Cordelia >>>>>> 14526 >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

The abbreviation PCM usually stands for Per Calendar Month. As you say he was injured, perhaps this could be referring to an award of either a pension or a disability allowance? As you do not give any personal details, it isn't possible to look at the document that you are referring to. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

I wonder if the Navy issued a Dardanelles Campaign Medal, as they were patrolling the D Straits for some years. Ian C from his Nexus On 3 Sep 2015 7:53 am, Cordelia Hull via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Just hit a snag.  I have discovered that: 'The DCM remained an exclusively > Army award until 1942' > > My guy was in the Navy and it was 1915. > > Cordelia > > On 3 September 2015 at 16:47, Ray Tuck <rtuck46@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Your welcome > > > > On 3 September 2015 at 07:45, Cordelia Hull <cordeliamary@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Yes, it could be DCM on more careful peering. Distinguished Conduct > >> Medal. Now I will need to discover if he was actually awarded it. :-) > >> > >> Thanks for replying. > >> > >> Cordelia > >> > >> On 3 September 2015 at 16:33, Ray Tuck <rtuck46@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Are you sure that it is PCM and not DCM  Distinguished Conduct Medal > >>> Ray > >>> > >>> On 3 September 2015 at 04:53, Cordelia Hull via <sfhg@rootsweb.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Can anyone help me with a comment on a WW1 Royal Navy record for one of > >>>> my > >>>> Heasman ancestral relatives? > >>>> > >>>> It says that in Sep 1915, he was recommended for PCM in connection with > >>>> operations in Gallipoli. > >>>> > >>>> What does PCM stand for / mean? > >>>> > >>>> He had been slightly wounded in action on 16 Aug 1915 (presumably at > >>>> Gallipoli) if that is of any relevance. > >>>> > >>>> Thank you > >>>> > >>>> Cordelia > >>>> 14526 > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>> SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

B Jasper via wrote on 02/09/2015 19:54: > Does anybody know why the “theweald.org “ genealogy site has disappeared from the Web? > > Regards – Brian Peter MacLeod does! Dear Alan I went on holiday at the weekend to some remote parts of Scotland to find that the server that underpins theWeald.org site had had a catastrophic failure. The site has been off the internet ever since. I return on Saturday to rebuild the site. It will take a couple of days. Apologies to all. It would help me if you could let others at SFHG know. Regards Peter Macleod

Does anybody know why the “theweald.org “ genealogy site has disappeared from the Web? Regards – Brian

Many convicts are well documented and well researched by family in Australia. There are several very useful convict websites from Claim-a-convict to NSW State Records and National Library Trove Newspapers. As has been pointed out, very few returned after their term expired. Many had made a good life for themselves in the colonies, others could not afford the fare (around 25 pounds in the 1850s). I have found difficulties in finding convicts who died early after their pardons or tickets of leave, especially those who did not marry or have family. If they settled in the rural parts of the colony, records were not as well kept until the 1850s and I have even found that some deaths were not registered, or the burial records have not been transformed into death registrations. Their names and details were often recorded incorrectly on their death certificates and other records. Even though Edmund Greenfield did not gain permission to marry, it may be worth tracing the woman as well. Diane Cole Sydney Member 15610

Hello Listers Thank you very much to those of you who have made suggestions and offered help re my question about a trial location in 1834. I thought others might be interested to know the status. I have learned that the assizes are not the same as the quarter sessions and that the latter for Sussex (Western Division), in 1835 at least, were being held in Petworth - thanks to a free Google e-book written in 1835 by Thomas Walker Horsfield : "The History, Antiquities & Topography of the County of Sussex." I have also learned that my ancestor would probably have served his sentence in Horsham or Petworth jails. I intend now to follow up with the newspapers which covered West Sussex in the 1830s, in the event that there is any more info about my ancestor & his case to be had in them, e.g. what it was my ancestor actually stole which landed him in jail. He was convicted of "larceny from a vessel" - and, as he had been born in Loxwood & probably still lived there at the age of 17, I'm guessing he stole something from a barge on the Wey-Arun Canal which passed through Loxwood & which, in the 1830s, was an active & relatively inexpensive water transportation route between London & the River Thames and the English Channel at Littlehampton. Thanks to "Newspaper collections in libraries" at the West Sussex County Council website - at https://www.westsussex.gov.uk/leisure-recreation-and-community/history-and-heritage/local-studies-in-libraries/newspaper-collections-in-libraries/ I've discovered that there are three likely newspapers from that era which may have carried reports on the cases tried at the Easter session in 1834: 1) the Hampshire & Portsmouth & Chichester Journal - at the Hants Record Office, Winchester (microfilm Jan 1834-Dec 1836) 2) the Hampshire Telegraph & Sussex Chronicle - at Chichester Library (microfilm 1820-39) 3) the Sussex Advertiser - at The Brighton History Centre, The Keep, Brighton (printed copies 1833-38). Dare I ask anyone who may be visiting any of those offices in the near future and would have the time available, if you would be willing to do a look up for me? If so, please contact me off-list & I'll tell you what I know. Thanks again Christine Jackson SFHG 397 Ottawa, Canada