Hi Frank Again, Actually many people married siblings or cousins of the same families with the same names. I have come across this happening in my family a few times. I am sure this was sometimes for convenience and also because they were the people that worked and lived near one another. Debbie 10622 -----Original Message----- From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Frank Chappell Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:36 AM To: brialing Cc: SFHG@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SFHG] My Great Grandfather Hello Brian, I also had a connection between Caroline and Clapham but the link to Hannover Square is new to me. Her maiden name was not Scutt but SOUTH and I don't think there is much chance of a connection between the two. Caroline Chappell appears in the 1871 and 1881 censususes (censi?) though her ages seem a bit variable. There is also a possible record of her in 1891 in Yorkshire married to a Thomas Chappell. If it is her did she just look around to find someone to marry with the same surname? Fascinating. Regards, Frank brialing wrote: > Dear Frank, > > By doing some backtracking, by the 1881 census, Caroline was born in > Clapham, Sussex (although in 1871 it shows Patching). > > If you go back to 1861 and put in Caroline, born Clapham, it comes up with > Caroline Chappell, married, a servant working in Hannover Square. > > In 1851 using the same criteria, the obvious person we have in a Caroline > Scutt, again a servant in Broadwater. > > In FreeBMD, there is a marriage entry for a Caroline Scutt in Brighton in > 1859 but there are no other entries for that reference. > > I have checked the name of Chappell for that quarter in the original indexes > and there is no corresponding entry. > > This is only guesswork of course and does not tell us why the husband/father > seems to be missing at the times the censuses are taken and if you have the > finances you may wish to get that marriage certificate and find out who > Caroline did marry. > > Happy hunting, > > Regards, > > > Brian Denn > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of Frank Chappell > Sent: 06 February 2008 16:51 > To: SFHG@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SFHG] My Great Grandfather > > My stonewall is my Great Grandfather - Cornelius James CHAPPELL. His > existance is shown on my > grandfather Samuel's birth certificate where he appears as the father > and is described as a domestic servant. > The birth was registered in Brighton in February 1863 so I guess he was > alive in 1862. In the 1871 census only his wife > Caroline and Samuel appear. I can find no record of his birth, marriage > or death. > Can anyone help? > Frank Chappell (9258) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.20/1262 - Release Date: 06/02/2008 > 09:13 > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1263 - Release Date: 06/02/2008 > 20:14 > > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Frank, Well as I said I did look for him in passenger lists with no luck and the in 1880 & 1900 US census, again with no luck. If he had applied for Naturalization we would have struck gold but I can't find a record of him. I'll continue to look around and will see if I can come up with anything else. Debbie 10622 -----Original Message----- From: Frank Chappell [mailto:dandf@talktalk.net] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:07 AM To: Deborah Montgomerie Cc: SFHG@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SFHG] My Great Grandfather Hello Deborah, The existance of the name in the USA makes me wonder whether he could have emigrated there. Is there any way of finding that out? If it happened it must have been between 1861 and 1871. Regards Frank Deborah Montgomerie wrote: > Hi Frank, > > I am guessing that Cornelius went by the name of James which makes it harder > of course to find him. I checked and in 1871 his wife describes herself as > a widow. Of course if CJ had just wandered off then it was easier to say she > was a widow than abandoned. > > I did find evidence in the US of 2 Cornelius James Chappell's. One who is > registered in WW1 as living in Iowa, Wisconsin and in 1956 a Cornelius J > Chappell and family were flown from Frankfurt to NY. CJ was a Sgt GF in the > US army. > > There are not many Cornelius Chappell names in the US censuses so I presume > most of them went by James. > > I looked and several Cornelius James Chappell's came out to the US. So sorry > I don't have the answer right now but you may want to check for a death for > a James Chappell in the Brighton area before we presume he jumped countries. > > Debbie > > -----Original Message----- > From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of Frank Chappell > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:51 AM > To: SFHG@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SFHG] My Great Grandfather > > My stonewall is my Great Grandfather - Cornelius James CHAPPELL. His > existance is shown on my > grandfather Samuel's birth certificate where he appears as the father > and is described as a domestic servant. > The birth was registered in Brighton in February 1863 so I guess he was > alive in 1862. In the 1871 census only his wife > Caroline and Samuel appear. I can find no record of his birth, marriage > or death. > Can anyone help? > Frank Chappell (9258) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > >

Dear All The old username and password is being removed. You should have all received the username and password for 2008 (members who joined October 2007 onwards already have it). If any of you have not received it for reasons of non-renewal or a mistake in our records or other reason please contact the SFHG email address membersonly first. If it is non-renewal then the new information will probably not be sent to you until about a week after you renew. Please excuse any errors; this is a busy time of year for the volunteers who handle membership and magazine mailing etc. Judy Excell

I will be presenting my completed needlepointed Tillinghurst family kneeler hassockk to St. Peter's Church, Ardingly on 29th June.My son will be accompanying me. Although I have done a preliminary search on the net, I wondered if anyone on the list knows of any self-catering cottage with 2 bedrooms that I could rent for 2 weeks from either mid June to 30th June or from 27th June to July 9 or 10. Location: Between the boundaries of north/Ardingly and South/Alfriston, East Sussex. (or anything within 15 - 20 miles of this area. Thanks for any help anyone can be. Apologies for this being sort of "off topic". Donna TILLINGHAST Casey If you want to understand today, you have to search yesterday. Pearl Buck

Hello Brian, I also had a connection between Caroline and Clapham but the link to Hannover Square is new to me. Her maiden name was not Scutt but SOUTH and I don't think there is much chance of a connection between the two. Caroline Chappell appears in the 1871 and 1881 censususes (censi?) though her ages seem a bit variable. There is also a possible record of her in 1891 in Yorkshire married to a Thomas Chappell. If it is her did she just look around to find someone to marry with the same surname? Fascinating. Regards, Frank brialing wrote: > Dear Frank, > > By doing some backtracking, by the 1881 census, Caroline was born in > Clapham, Sussex (although in 1871 it shows Patching). > > If you go back to 1861 and put in Caroline, born Clapham, it comes up with > Caroline Chappell, married, a servant working in Hannover Square. > > In 1851 using the same criteria, the obvious person we have in a Caroline > Scutt, again a servant in Broadwater. > > In FreeBMD, there is a marriage entry for a Caroline Scutt in Brighton in > 1859 but there are no other entries for that reference. > > I have checked the name of Chappell for that quarter in the original indexes > and there is no corresponding entry. > > This is only guesswork of course and does not tell us why the husband/father > seems to be missing at the times the censuses are taken and if you have the > finances you may wish to get that marriage certificate and find out who > Caroline did marry. > > Happy hunting, > > Regards, > > > Brian Denn > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of Frank Chappell > Sent: 06 February 2008 16:51 > To: SFHG@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SFHG] My Great Grandfather > > My stonewall is my Great Grandfather - Cornelius James CHAPPELL. His > existance is shown on my > grandfather Samuel's birth certificate where he appears as the father > and is described as a domestic servant. > The birth was registered in Brighton in February 1863 so I guess he was > alive in 1862. In the 1871 census only his wife > Caroline and Samuel appear. I can find no record of his birth, marriage > or death. > Can anyone help? > Frank Chappell (9258) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.20/1262 - Release Date: 06/02/2008 > 09:13 > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1263 - Release Date: 06/02/2008 > 20:14 > > > > >

KING family - Hurstpierpoint/Albourne. My great-grandmother was a Louisa King born in 1827 in Albourne Sussex. Her father was (I believe) Nicholas King. She married James Comber in Brighton in 1845. In the census records her birthplace is given as Albourne. But on my grandfather's birth certificate her birthplace is given as Hurstpierpoint - which at the most only a mile away from Albourne. My grandfather's birthplace in the census records is sometimes given as Albourne and sometimes as Hurstpierpoint. I get the impression that it was common to go home to Mum to give birth - particularly for the first child. There seem to be a number of King families living in Albourne in the 1841 census. I haven't yet tracked Louisa King and her family any further back but there's a Nichols King (not Nicholas) as had of one family with a daughter Louisa King of the right age Through Genes Reunited I'm in touch with several other descendants of the Comber/King marriage - mostly living in Autralia. I just about remember visiting a great uncle in Albourne around about 1939 who made a considerable impression on me because he had punched cattle in the USA in the late 19th century and he gave me his woven leather cowboy belt (at 6 years old I was very disappointed that it didn't include a gun holster). I'm fairly sure he was a King. Richard Evans Membership No: 12329 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Milton" <mnmilt@gmail.com> To: <sfhg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 4:56 PM Subject: [SFHG] Surname Interests > Hi, > I haven't posted my surname interests for a while. I am interested in > the following families. Where I have listed individuals, this > represents the "top" of my tree. I apologize that this is a long list > but my family wasn't very imaginative and tended to stay in Sussex > (mainly East Sussex) for many centuries. There seems to have been > intermarrying of lines which has confused things as wll. > > If anybody has information on any of these families I would be most > interested in hearing from them. I would also be most happy to share > the information that I have. > > Sellens/Sellins/Sellings - mainly in the Sedlescombe area. However, I > am interested in these names from anywhere in the world since they all > seem to be linked > > Bodle - Hailsham, Eastbourne, Wilmington, Willingdon, Alfriston areas > > Sinnock - Eastbourne, Bexhill, Hastings, Hailsham > > Milton - Eastbourne, Brighton (Thomas Milton, d 1891 in Brighton; m > Harriett. Son of Edward Milton and Mary Gregory) > > Foord - Westham (William Foord, died 1819, married to Elizabeth). Is > this Foord family related to the Fo(o)rds of Ninfield? > > Crowhurst - Hailsham (Mary Crowhurst, b 1725, daughter of George > Crowhurst) > > Thomas - Brighton (Charles Thomas, b abt 1826 in Brighton, son of Thomas > Thomas) > > Tullett - Brighton (Ellen Tullett, b abt 1856 in Brighton, daugther of > William Tullett) > > Silsby - Twineham (Charles Silsby d Mar 1851 in Twineham; m Eliza Stoner) > > Miller - Ditchling (Esther Miller, b abt 1845 in Ditchling, daughter of > James Miller) > > Stemp - Chiddingly (Ellen Elizabeth b 1872; daughter of James (May) > Stemp and Martha Wickens) > > Wickens - Keymer area (William Wickens b 1799; m Alice King) > > King - Hurstpierpoint (Richard King b abt 1773) > > Sayers - Hurstpierpoint (Ann Sayes b 1774; daughter of William Sayers b > 1754) > > Verrall - Eastbourne area. I have several Verral lines including Mary > Verall (chr 1739 in Willingdon; m John Bodle), Samuel Verrall (b 1746 in > Willingdon; m Mary Wilkins) > > Ade - Wilmington (Elizabeth Ade, died 1743, m John Bodle) > > Alchorne - Hailsham area (Jane or Jana Alchorne, died 1727; m Edward > Bodle) > > Thetcher/Thatcher - Eastbourne (b 1619 in Eastbourne, m Edward Bodle) > > Brakepoole - Eastbourne/Chiddingly (Joan Brakepoole, m Abraham Bodle in > 1642) > > Cruttendon - Burwash (Grace Cruttendon m Abraham Bodle in 1643) > > Thunder - Chiddingly (Thomas Thunder, d 1638 m Joan Elphicke) > > Elphicke/Elphick - Several lines, including - Chiddingly (Joan, d 1645, > m Thomas Thunder); Chiddingly, Hellingly (Thomas Elphick, d 1706, m > Elizabeth); Hellingly (Thomas Elphick m Joan Hobby in 1618) > > Roads/Roods/Rhodes - Hailsham (William Roads, d 1793; m Mary Crowhurst) > > Vincent - Friston/Eastbourne (Katherine Vincent b abt 1675; m Elias > Synack) > > Frankwell - Eastbourne (Margery Frankwell; b abt 1615; m Elias Sinnock) > > Wrenn/Renn - Eastbourne (Mary Wrenn b 1585; m Christopher Senoke) > > Gibbs - Sedlescombe (Charlotte Gibbs, b abt 1818, daughter of Thomas > Gibbs; m Walter Sellens) > > Eversfield - Battle (Benedicta Eversfield, b 1785, m Walter Sellens) > > Cary - Sedlescombe (Mary Cary, b 1765; m Robert Sellens) > > Baker - Mountfield (Jane Baker; m John Sellens in Mountfield in 1754) > and Brede (Elizabeth Baker m William Sellyn in Brede in 1596) > > Watson - Ewhurst (Elizabeth Watson, b 1700; m John Sellens) > > Picknall - Brightling (Mary Picknall; m Robert Sellens in Brightling in > 1696) > > Merritt - Salehurst (Francis Merritt, b 1638; m John Sellen) > > Wells - Sedlescombe (Ann Wells, m Robert Sellen in Sedlescombe in 1637) > > Cash - Eastbourne (Violet Elizabeth Cash b 1896, dauther of Benjamin > Cash and Sara Elizabeth Riches) > > Harding - Horsham (Jane Harding b 1857, daughter of George and Mary > Harding) > > Todman - Eastbourne (William Todman m Lydia Ellis in Eastbourne in 1807) > > Ellis - Dallington/Chiddingly (John Ellis m Ann Pettit in 1710 in > Dallington) > > Pettitt - Dallington (Ann Pettit m John Ellis in 1710 in Dallington) > > Serjeant - Hellingly (Mary Serjeant, b 1705; m Edward Elphick in > Hellingly in 1722; daughter of William Serjeant) > > Hobby - Hellingly (Joan Hobby m Thomas Elphick in Hellingly in 1618) > > Oliver - Warbleton (Elizabeth Oliver, b 1654, m Thomas Elphick) > > Oxley - Ashburnham/Dallington (Richard Oxley m Lydia James in Dallington > in 1680) > > James - Ashburnham/Dallington (Lydia James m Richard Oxley in > Dallington in 1680) > > Thanks in advance for any help that anybody can give me > > Regards > > Mark Milton (9750) > Belmont, MA, USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1267 - Release Date: > 08/02/2008 20:12 > >

Sorry, I forgot to answer your question. Caroline's maiden name was SOUTH and I have a record for her Christening on 21 November 1830 at St. Nicholas Church, Brighton (IGI record). REgards, Frank Deborah Montgomerie wrote: > Hi Frank again, > > What was Caroline's maiden name? Does it say on the birth cert? > > Debbie > > -----Original Message----- > From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of Frank Chappell > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:51 AM > To: SFHG@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SFHG] My Great Grandfather > > My stonewall is my Great Grandfather - Cornelius James CHAPPELL. His > existance is shown on my > grandfather Samuel's birth certificate where he appears as the father > and is described as a domestic servant. > The birth was registered in Brighton in February 1863 so I guess he was > alive in 1862. In the 1871 census only his wife > Caroline and Samuel appear. I can find no record of his birth, marriage > or death. > Can anyone help? > Frank Chappell (9258) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hello Deborah, The existance of the name in the USA makes me wonder whether he could have emigrated there. Is there any way of finding that out? If it happened it must have been between 1861 and 1871. Regards Frank Deborah Montgomerie wrote: > Hi Frank, > > I am guessing that Cornelius went by the name of James which makes it harder > of course to find him. I checked and in 1871 his wife describes herself as > a widow. Of course if CJ had just wandered off then it was easier to say she > was a widow than abandoned. > > I did find evidence in the US of 2 Cornelius James Chappell's. One who is > registered in WW1 as living in Iowa, Wisconsin and in 1956 a Cornelius J > Chappell and family were flown from Frankfurt to NY. CJ was a Sgt GF in the > US army. > > There are not many Cornelius Chappell names in the US censuses so I presume > most of them went by James. > > I looked and several Cornelius James Chappell's came out to the US. So sorry > I don't have the answer right now but you may want to check for a death for > a James Chappell in the Brighton area before we presume he jumped countries. > > Debbie > > -----Original Message----- > From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of Frank Chappell > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:51 AM > To: SFHG@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SFHG] My Great Grandfather > > My stonewall is my Great Grandfather - Cornelius James CHAPPELL. His > existance is shown on my > grandfather Samuel's birth certificate where he appears as the father > and is described as a domestic servant. > The birth was registered in Brighton in February 1863 so I guess he was > alive in 1862. In the 1871 census only his wife > Caroline and Samuel appear. I can find no record of his birth, marriage > or death. > Can anyone help? > Frank Chappell (9258) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hello Wyn, Thank you for your suggestion. I will certainly have a look at the Dorset records. Regards Frank wyn.burgess wrote: > Hello Frank > > I have been researching for a friend who has Chappell ancestors, although no > Cornelius or Samuel. However, it does appear that this particular Chappell > family moved to the Brighton area from Dorset sometime between 1871 and > 1881. I found quite a number of Chappells in Dorset so it might be worth a > try. Also whilst searching we discovered other spellings, mostly Chapple. > > Hope this helps > > Wyn Burgess > 3813 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of Frank Chappell > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 4:51 PM > To: SFHG@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SFHG] My Great Grandfather > > My stonewall is my Great Grandfather - Cornelius James CHAPPELL. His > existance is shown on my grandfather Samuel's birth certificate where he > appears as the father and is described as a domestic servant. > The birth was registered in Brighton in February 1863 so I guess he was > alive in 1862. In the 1871 census only his wife Caroline and Samuel appear. > I can find no record of his birth, marriage or death. > Can anyone help? > Frank Chappell (9258) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > >

I have sent three messages over the past few days to the list but so far not one has appeared in my inbox. I thought that one's own messages were automatically sent back to one as well as to everyone else. Am I wrong? Or is there a hiccup? Did anyone see messages from me? Gordon Smith (8479)

Dear All According to his Marriage Certificate my gt.gt.grandfather David WALDER was born in c.1819. Subsequent sightings confirm that he was born in Lindfield. The only David in the area and of the correct age can be found in the1841 Census. The Head of the household is Jesse Walder together with his wife Martha and several younger children. David's eldest daughter was named Martha, a Martha Walder (not the daughter) was present at the death of David's wife Selina (Guy). David's Marriage Certificate however gives his father as another David. What is the likelihood of there being a clerical error on the Certificate? Obviously possible but was this a frequent occurrence? Perhaps Martha was his mother, Jesse not his father. I am unable to find a David snr and have been unable to locate a baptism record for David jnr. I would be grateful for your thoughts and any advice on this one. It would be so easy to accept Martha and Jesse as my gt.gt.grandfather's parents but ........ Many thanks. Sandra 12258

not yet at least, I have Randalls at Shipley back to c1705, but the Only Sarah I have lived 1833-1908. regards Joe Austen 9934 in oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Javajune" <june.harvey@gmail.com> To: <sfhg@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:29 AM Subject: [SFHG] Joe Austen: Surname interests Part 2 > On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 > Joe Austen wrote: > > > <snip> I research all lines that touch mine or an associated line, and > research full generations, not just direct lines. > >> Rhodes. Shipley. 1800-1880 > > Joe: I have Sarah RHODES b. 1783 Shipley marrying John FIGG in 1816 > Horsham. I have not yet researched her line. Wonder if we connect? > > June > SFHG 12496 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.0/1268 - Release Date: 9/02/2008 > 11:54 AM > >

I`m sorry David my list does say 19th century, the earliest I`ve got is 1780. Regards Joe Austen 9934 in oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Milton" <mnmilt@gmail.com> Cc: <SFHG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 5:05 AM Subject: Re: [SFHG] Surname interests

Sandra: I am searching the Guy sir name in Whatlington, Sussex. My great grandfather (x4) was James William Guy. He married Frances Turner in Whatlington on 11 MAY 1828. James's parents were George Guy and Philadelphia Harvey. Any connection? Kindly, Diane Sypher Lakkewood, Colorado USA #10836 > From: sandrapayne@cytanet.com.cy > To: SFHG@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:18:53 +0200 > Subject: [SFHG] Surname Interests > > Hello - I have not listed my Sussex surname interests on the list before, so here goes:- > > Walder, any. > Knapp(Napp)/Naylor/Nailard, Heathfield area/ Barcombe > Saunders, Heathfield area. > Turner, Danehill, Chelwood, Fletching. > Guy, Sussex/Kent circa 1825 > Parish, late 19th Century > > Sandra > 12258 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join

Hi, Just wondering if anyone on this list actually lives in Aldingbourne? If yes, do you know if a house called " The Willows" still exsists. My Gt Grandmother used to live there [well in 1916 according to the street directory] and I just wondered what type of house it is/was Many thanks Kay 6849

Thanks Mark Yes, I was in touch with Jane Masri some time ago - alas no joy! david ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Milton" <mnmilt@gmail.com> Cc: <SFHG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [SFHG] Surname interests > David, > Have you been in touch with Jane Masri? She is researching the Bravery > family. If you haven't been there already, the Sussex board on > rootschat (www.rootschat.com) is well worth a visit. > > Regards > > Mark Milton (9750) > > David Eldridge wrote: >> Maybe Joe or any other listers may be able to help with one of my >> brickwalls? >> Joe - You have BRAVERY family - of Faygate and Rusper listed in your >> interests. >> >> I'm trying to find the parents / siblings of my 4th Gt Grandmother, Mary >> BRAVERY >> who married William BOWELL in the Parish Church of Henfield 13/1/1787. >> (IGI) >> I think Mary must have been born circa 1766 and possibly died and was >> buried >> 1828 >> at St Peter Ch. Henfield. >> >> Can anyone assist? >> >> David Eldridge (11402) >>

On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:26:34 +0000 "Jim Halsey" <jehalsey@gmail.com> wrote: Hello Jim, > Just a warning that "averages" can be, and often are, misleading. A > very high rate of infant mortality can drag such an "average" a long > way down. Having survived the first twelve months I suspect the the > "average" age at death would have risen sharply. But much depends on > the particular statistical calculation that produced the There's another thing that lowers average age, but it's something that only applies to women; Child birth. It was not uncommon for a mother to die in labour. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Two sides to every story Public Image - Public Image Ltd

There is information on this with bibliographical references at http://books.google.com/books?id=45nDNbDbrq0C&pg=PA21&lpg=PA21&dq=life+expec tancy+eighteenth+century&source=web&ots=ZB_PbJS1c3&sig=12bpyP3FGFIHIxaryUKnl 7SUf_0 Mike Waters -----Original Message----- From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Halsey Sent: 10 February 2008 17:27 To: Dkn72a@aol.com Cc: SFHG-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SFHG] For listers. Hello Diane, Just a warning that "averages" can be, and often are, misleading. A very high rate of infant mortality can drag such an "average" a long way down. Having survived the first twelve months I suspect the the "average" age at death would have risen sharply. But much depends on the particular statistical calculation that produced the "average"..There are various ways it can be done. Does he elaborate and explain that ? Jim Halsey On 10/02/2008, Dkn72a@aol.com <Dkn72a@aol.com> wrote: > Just a thought in passing, I am reading Patrick O'Brian's biography of > Joseph Banks, on page 270 he states that at the time of the Peace Treaty of > Amiens, (1803) the average male life expectancy was just over 30 years - and > thats the average . Isnt that sad ? > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Diane, Thomas Sellens was my ggggg greatuncle. His brother, Walter Sellens, was my ggggg grandfather. Walter's granddaughter, Jane Sellens married an Alfred Guy (b abt 1850 in Rotherfield). Is Alfred Guy one of your relations? Regards Mark Milton (9750) Belmont, MA Diane Sypher wrote: > Mark: > I am the great-grand niece (x4) of a Philidelphia Guy that married a > Thomas Sellens in Whatlington on 16 APR 1823. Does this fit with the > Sellens line that you are researching? Some of their children were > born in Sedlescombe. > > Kindly, > Diane Sypher > Lakewood Colorado > USA > #10836 > > > Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 11:56:05 -0500 > > To: sfhg@rootsweb.com > > From: mnmilt@gmail.com > > Subject: [SFHG] Surname Interests > > > > Hi, > > I haven't posted my surname interests for a while. I am interested in > > the following families. Where I have listed individuals, this > > represents the "top" of my tree. I apologize that this is a long list > > but my family wasn't very imaginative and tended to stay in Sussex > > (mainly East Sussex) for many centuries. There seems to have been > > intermarrying of lines which has confused things as wll. > > > > If anybody has information on any of these families I would be most > > interested in hearing from them. I would also be most happy to share > > the information that I have. > > > > Sellens/Sellins/Sellings - mainly in the Sedlescombe area. However, I > > am interested in these names from anywhere in the world since they all > > seem to be linked > > > > Bodle - Hailsham, Eastbourne, Wilmington, Willingdon, Alfriston areas > > > > Sinnock - Eastbourne, Bexhill, Hastings, Hailsham > > > > Milton - Eastbourne, Brighton (Thomas Milton, d 1891 in Brighton; m > > Harriett. Son of Edward Milton and Mary Gregory) > > > > Foord - Westham (William Foord, died 1819, married to Elizabeth). Is > > this Foord family related to the Fo(o)rds of Ninfield? > > > > Crowhurst - Hailsham (Mary Crowhurst, b 1725, daughter of George > Crowhurst) > > > > Thomas - Brighton (Charles Thomas, b abt 1826 in Brighton, son of > Thomas > > Thomas) > > > > Tullett - Brighton (Ellen Tullett, b abt 1856 in Brighton, daugther of > > William Tullett) > > > > Silsby - Twineham (Charles Silsby d Mar 1851 in Twineham; m Eliza > Stoner) > > > > Miller - Ditchling (Esther Miller, b abt 1845 in Ditchling, daughter of > > James Miller) > > > > Stemp - Chiddingly (Ellen Elizabeth b 1872; daughter of James (May) > > Stemp and Martha Wickens) > > > > Wickens - Keymer area (William Wickens b 1799; m Alice King) > > > > King - Hurstpierpoint (Richard King b abt 1773) > > > > Sayers - Hurstpierpoint (Ann Sayes b 1774; daughter of William Sayers b > > 1754) > > > > Verrall - Eastbourne area. I have several Verral lines including Mary > > Verall (chr 1739 in Willingdon; m John Bodle), Samuel Verrall (b > 1746 in > > Willingdon; m Mary Wilkins) > > > > Ade - Wilmington (Elizabeth Ade, died 1743, m John Bodle) > > > > Alchorne - Hailsham area (Jane or Jana Alchorne, died 1727; m Edward > Bodle) > > > > Thetcher/Thatcher - Eastbourne (b 1619 in Eastbourne, m Edward Bodle) > > > > Brakepoole - Eastbourne/Chiddingly (Joan Brakepoole, m Abraham Bodle in > > 1642) > > > > Cruttendon - Burwash (Grace Cruttendon m Abraham Bodle in 1643) > > > > Thunder - Chiddingly (Thomas Thunder, d 1638 m Joan Elphicke) > > > > Elphicke/Elphick - Several lines, including - Chiddingly (Joan, d 1645, > > m Thomas Thunder); Chiddingly, Hellingly (Thomas Elphick, d 1706, m > > Elizabeth); Hellingly (Thomas Elphick m Joan Hobby in 1618) > > > > Roads/Roods/Rhodes - Hailsham (William Roads, d 1793; m Mary Crowhurst) > > > > Vincent - Friston/Eastbourne (Katherine Vincent b abt 1675; m Elias > Synack) > > > > Frankwell - Eastbourne (Margery Frankwell; b abt 1615; m Elias Sinnock) > > > > Wrenn/Renn - Eastbourne (Mary Wrenn b 1585; m Christopher Senoke) > > > > Gibbs - Sedlescombe (Charlotte Gibbs, b abt 1818, daughter of Thomas > > Gibbs; m Walter Sellens) > > > > Eversfield - Battle (Benedicta Eversfield, b 1785, m Walter Sellens) > > > > Cary - Sedlescombe (Mary Cary, b 1765; m Robert Sellens) > > > > Baker - Mountfield (Jane Baker; m John Sellens in Mountfield in 1754) > > and Brede (Elizabeth Baker m William Sellyn in Brede in 1596) > > > > Watson - Ewhurst (Elizabeth Watson, b 1700; m John Sellens) > > > > Picknall - Brightling (Mary Picknall; m Robert Sellens in Brightling in > > 1696) > > > > Merritt - Salehurst (Francis Merritt, b 1638; m John Sellen) > > > > Wells - Sedlescombe (Ann Wells, m Robert Sellen in Sedlescombe in 1637) > > > > Cash - Eastbourne (Violet Elizabeth Cash b 1896, dauther of Benjamin > > Cash and Sara Elizabeth Riches) > > > > Harding - Horsham (Jane Harding b 1857, daughter of George and Mary > Harding) > > > > Todman - Eastbourne (William Todman m Lydia Ellis in Eastbourne in 1807) > > > > Ellis - Dallington/Chiddingly (John Ellis m Ann Pettit in 1710 in > > Dallington) > > > > Pettitt - Dallington (Ann Pettit m John Ellis in 1710 in Dallington) > > > > Serjeant - Hellingly (Mary Serjeant, b 1705; m Edward Elphick in > > Hellingly in 1722; daughter of William Serjeant) > > > > Hobby - Hellingly (Joan Hobby m Thomas Elphick in Hellingly in 1618) > > > > Oliver - Warbleton (Elizabeth Oliver, b 1654, m Thomas Elphick) > > > > Oxley - Ashburnham/Dallington (Richard Oxley m Lydia James in > Dallington > > in 1680) > > > > James - Ashburnham/Dallington (Lydia James m Richard Oxley in > > Dallington in 1680) > > > > Thanks in advance for any help that anybody can give me > > > > Regards > > > > Mark Milton (9750) > > Belmont, MA, USA > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Climb to the top of the charts! 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Maybe Joe or any other listers may be able to help with one of my brickwalls? Joe - You have BRAVERY family - of Faygate and Rusper listed in your interests. I'm trying to find the parents / siblings of my 4th Gt Grandmother, Mary BRAVERY who married William BOWELL in the Parish Church of Henfield 13/1/1787. (IGI) I think Mary must have been born circa 1766 and possibly died and was buried 1828 at St Peter Ch. Henfield. Can anyone assist? David Eldridge (11402) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Austen" <austengenealogy@iprimus.com.au> To: <SFHG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 3:32 AM Subject: [SFHG] Surname interests > Mark Milton, may well have opened the floodgates in regard to surname > interests, I have been trying unsuccessfully to update my registered > surname interests, so here goes. > Adams /Horsham, Shipley and Southwater > Agate/Gates West Sussex mainly Warnham > Austen/Austin mainly West Sussex,Aldingbourne, Angmering, Binsted, > Horsham, Walberton, Yapton 1670s to today, also some east Sussex > (Brighton) 1879 on.And New Zealand 1874 on. > Baker/ Ashington and Horsham 1780s to 1850s > Berwick, Lower Beeding, Rotherfield and Withyam 19th century. > Bravery, mainly Faygate and Rusper 19th century > Bridger, mainly Yapton 1780-1850 > Bristow, Shipley 18th and 19th centuries. > Buck, Horsham 19th century > Bushby, Brighton and Goring, > Chandler, 1775-1850 Yapton > Chatfield, Yapton 1700-1850 > Clapshaw/Clapshoe/ClapshowBinsted, Lyminster, Yapton 1665-1850 > Cox Chiddingley, Horsham, Lower Beeding 19th century > Denman, Beeding, Horsham and Rusper, 1800-1870, > Diaper, mainly Pagham 1750-1850 > Duffield, Billingshurst, Horsham and Itchingfield 1800-1920 > Etheridge, Horsham and Shipley 1650-1900 > Francis, Horsham, Itchingfield and Shipley 1750-1820 > Funnell Beeding and Horsham1825-1900 > Hammond, Horsham, Southwater, West Grinsted 19th century > Irish, Yapton. 1765-1820 > Jenner, Faygate, Horsham, and Ockley Surrey 1750-1920 > Linfield, Thakeham 1760-1820 > Lintott, Felpham and Walberton 1760-1900 > Longhurst, Horsham 19th century > Manvell, Horsham 19th century > Mellish, Arundel, Nuthurst and Pulborough 1740-1820 > Mepham, Brighton, Burwash, Dallington, Etchingham, Hailsham, Heathfield, > Herstmonceaux, Willingdon, 1550-1950, > Merritt, Shipley 19th century > Millyard, 1770-1870 Walberton > > This is the first half > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >