Hi Diane, Thanks so much for this offer. I am interested in Keymer, Clayton, Hurstpierpoint & The Danny. Thanks again, Debbie -----Original Message----- From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dkn72a@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 1:54 PM To: SFHG-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFHG] Place names of Sussex. Recently someone was querying the place name Sayers Common, near Hurstpierpoint. I have Judith Glover's book 'Place Names of Sussex' on request loan from my local library (cost me £3.50 as it came from Havant). If anyone would like a description of any Sussex village name during the next 2 weeks please send via the list. (quote) Sawyers Copse (Wiston). It is associated with Bartholomew le Saghier of Annington (1327), whose name meant 'the sawer'; one who saws timber. The development of this occupational surname is shown in Sawyersland, Horsham, which is recorded as Sawyers in 1539, and was connected with the family of Thomas Seyers, or Seyer (1543). Sayerland, Hailsham, is simmilarly associated with the family of Robert Sayere (1375) and is found as Sereland 1565 - Searelands 1627 -Sareland 1724. Sayer's Common, Hurstpierpoint, derived its name from that of Walter le Saghier of Poynings (1327); and Sayers Farm, Horsham, from that of Thomas Seyers (1543). Diane 10813 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:15:07 +0100 "Gordon Smith" <sativushouse@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Hello Gordon, > next door to her parents, whose address is given as River Road. Is > Hampton Court a small cul-de-sac or similar off River Road? Or is it > a modern block which has built on an old site? I wonder if anyone The first hit at Google is a PDF that refers to Hampton Court as a residential complex. So it sounds, to me at least, as though the site has been re-developed. As you're no doubt aware, that's often a euphemism for "knocked down to make way for far more lucrative property". > (Please tell me what HTH means!!! I'm sorry if I am being rather Hope That Helps, and is a well-used MLA. > dense! Is it modern "text language"?) Nothing to do with texting originally, but MLAs (Multi Letter Acronyms) came about as a quick way of writing oft-used phrases to cut down on message size on BBS systems and the early days of the internet. It was considered necessary because of the cost of 'phone calls, so reducing message size was a good thing {tm}. Personally, I got into BBS (Bulletin Bord Systems) way back in the early 1980s, and regularly had 'phone bills running into hundreds of pounds per quarter. All so much cheaper now with always on ADSL connections for sub £20pcm. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" You're the psychotic daughter of a psychotic mother Pure Mania - The Vibrators

Liz, Thank you for this. It sounds as if this is what I am looking for, as my great-grandfather (of 5 Hampton Court) married someone who lived next door to her parents, whose address is given as River Road. Is Hampton Court a small cul-de-sac or similar off River Road? Or is it a modern block which has built on an old site? I wonder if anyone knows what Hampton Court was in the late nineteenth century. (Please tell me what HTH means!!! I'm sorry if I am being rather dense! Is it modern "text language"?) Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "lizstilwell" <lizstilwell@ntlworld.com> To: "Gordon Smith" <sativushouse@yahoo.co.uk>; <SFHG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [SFHG] Hampton Court, Littlehampton > Hi Gordon > >> I would be grateful if some kind person could tell me if Hampton Court >> still exists in Littlehampton, and, if so, where it is! I have Googled >> but have so far been unable to find it. > > > I don't know if it's the same place you're thinking of but there is a > Hampton Court in River Road, Littlehampton. > > HTH > > Liz > >

Hi Gordon > I would be grateful if some kind person could tell me if Hampton Court > still exists in Littlehampton, and, if so, where it is! I have Googled but > have so far been unable to find it. I don't know if it's the same place you're thinking of but there is a Hampton Court in River Road, Littlehampton. HTH Liz

Recently someone was querying the place name Sayers Common, near Hurstpierpoint. I have Judith Glover's book 'Place Names of Sussex' on request loan from my local library (cost me £3.50 as it came from Havant). If anyone would like a description of any Sussex village name during the next 2 weeks please send via the list. (quote) Sawyers Copse (Wiston). It is associated with Bartholomew le Saghier of Annington (1327), whose name meant 'the sawer'; one who saws timber. The development of this occupational surname is shown in Sawyersland, Horsham, which is recorded as Sawyers in 1539, and was connected with the family of Thomas Seyers, or Seyer (1543). Sayerland, Hailsham, is simmilarly associated with the family of Robert Sayere (1375) and is found as Sereland 1565 - Searelands 1627 -Sareland 1724. Sayer's Common, Hurstpierpoint, derived its name from that of Walter le Saghier of Poynings (1327); and Sayers Farm, Horsham, from that of Thomas Seyers (1543). Diane 10813

To the list: I would be grateful if some kind person could tell me if Hampton Court still exists in Littlehampton, and, if so, where it is! I have Googled but have so far been unable to find it. Gordon Smith (8479)

Thanks Mike, I'll give it a go Jennifer

Jennifer - My father was a butcher, and belonged to a trade body called (I think) The Meat Trades Association. If it still exists, there might be an archive you could search. Mike Snatt 4711 ----- Original Message ----- From: jencap To: sfhg@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 6:52 PM Subject: [SFHG] Butcher ancestors I have acquired an old photo of a butcher's shopfront with 2 men standing at either side. I've no idea where the shop is located but indications are that it is in sussex. The proprietor's name is very difficult to decipher but could be WILSON. I've tried scanning and enlarging but as the photo is quite damaged nothing seems to make it any the clearer. My butcher ancestors were Thomas Reeves b. 1804, of Fittlworth and Richard Turner Guile, 1824, of Chichester. Richard was the stepson of Thomas Reeves and my 2nd gt grandfather. If anyone has butcher ancestors and can come up with a suggestion for a likely name on the shopfront it it might help. I know it's a long shot but worth a try. The style of dress of the men in the photo doesn't indicate to me a particular period so I can't put a date on it. Any suggestions welcome. Regards Jennifer Capper ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 27/03/2008 19:15

A further thank you to all concerned for the suggestions about death certificates - I shall now go and trawl through the indexes! Claire

I have acquired an old photo of a butcher's shopfront with 2 men standing at either side. I've no idea where the shop is located but indications are that it is in sussex. The proprietor's name is very difficult to decipher but could be WILSON. I've tried scanning and enlarging but as the photo is quite damaged nothing seems to make it any the clearer. My butcher ancestors were Thomas Reeves b. 1804, of Fittlworth and Richard Turner Guile, 1824, of Chichester. Richard was the stepson of Thomas Reeves and my 2nd gt grandfather. If anyone has butcher ancestors and can come up with a suggestion for a likely name on the shopfront it it might help. I know it's a long shot but worth a try. The style of dress of the men in the photo doesn't indicate to me a particular period so I can't put a date on it. Any suggestions welcome. Regards Jennifer Capper

Hello Claire I have a death certificate of an ancestor who died at sea, it was obtained from GRO and is a copy of an entry in the Marine Register of Deaths. His ship had left Southampton and when it reached Plymouth he could not be found and it was assumed that he had fallen overboard. (Cause of death reads "supposed to have fallen overboard") We applied for his certificate after finding his details in the 'Marine Register' in 1992, 117 years after his death was registered in 1875. Hope this is helps, at least it shows it is possible! Wyn Burgess 3813 -----Original Message----- From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Claire Wickens Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 8:18 AM To: sfhg Subject: [SFHG] Titanic Thanks to everyone who has suggested sources for the Titanic. Encyclopedia Titanica I had already found, with some details about the two men I am researching. What I really need is a death certificate for one of them in particular, as he is proving difficult to find in other sources. Claire ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is not directly relevant to this thread, but I Googled ' What happened to Steve Fossett ? " and was surprised at the number of websites listed. Seems thousands of people all over the world searched the satellite photos of the Nevada Desert where his plane was lost last September, looking for wreckage, but found nothing. His wife recently applied to a County Court Judge to declare him dead, as she needed access to his effects for financial reasons. This was less than a year after he was reported missing. Diane 10813

I was interested to see the replies about registrations for deaths at sea and the reference to applications for a death certificate. I understand that my grandmother's younger brother William Mark Green was "lost at sea off a boat when he was young". Nothing else seemed to be known about him. I have found William in the 1901 census, aged 16 lodging in Newhaven and working as a railway engine cleaner. As there were two seamen also in the household I suspect young William my have joined them perhaps working on boats out of Newhaven(possibly on the ferries?). If William was unmarried and his widowed mother out of the country after 1912 it is possible that no one in the family applied for a death certificate. Does this mean that William may not, in fact, be in official death records anywhere? Best wishes Jan Doe SFHS no. 10432 -----Original Message----- From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Marion Woolgar Sent: 28 March 2008 10:07 To: Claire Wickens; sfhg Subject: Re: [SFHG] Titanic Assuming the passenger in question was a British Citizen, a Death Certificate would not normally be issued unless a body had been recovered and repatriated to England or Wales for burial. There would then need to be a Coroner's Inquest and the Coroner would issue a Death Certificate. If the body was never recovered, the person's widow or other interested person could apply to the courts for a Death Certificate after an interval. I *think* back then, the interval was seven years. It is also possible that the death registration may not be included in the usual "run" of GRO Death Indexes. There is another set of GRO Indexes reserved for Marine Deaths up to 1965 which might be worth checking. This usually contains the details of people buried at sea where a service has been held and the details have been recorded in the Captain's Log. However, when a person is presumed to be lost at sea and a Death Certificate is issued many years afterwards, I am not sure which set of indexes the registration may appear within, so it would be worth checking both. Best wishes Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG NO: 3323 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Robin On the IGI Luke son of James & Mary Born 9 Dec 1820 Christened 11 Jan 1821 Dorset Gardens Wesleyan, Brighton, Sussex 5 other Tester's including sister Ann Regards Jackie PS Glynde film just arrived will check it next week -----Original Message----- From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robin Coates Sent: 27 March 2008 16:02 To: SFHG Subject: [SFHG] Luke Tester Hello. I would be gratgeful to anyone who can help me find the parents and date of baptism of LUKE TESTER which I believe took place about 1820, possibly in Buxted. Many thanks, Robin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Assuming the passenger in question was a British Citizen, a Death Certificate would not normally be issued unless a body had been recovered and repatriated to England or Wales for burial. There would then need to be a Coroner's Inquest and the Coroner would issue a Death Certificate. If the body was never recovered, the person's widow or other interested person could apply to the courts for a Death Certificate after an interval. I *think* back then, the interval was seven years. It is also possible that the death registration may not be included in the usual "run" of GRO Death Indexes. There is another set of GRO Indexes reserved for Marine Deaths up to 1965 which might be worth checking. This usually contains the details of people buried at sea where a service has been held and the details have been recorded in the Captain's Log. However, when a person is presumed to be lost at sea and a Death Certificate is issued many years afterwards, I am not sure which set of indexes the registration may appear within, so it would be worth checking both. Best wishes Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG NO: 3323

Thanks to everyone who has suggested sources for the Titanic. Encyclopedia Titanica I had already found, with some details about the two men I am researching. What I really need is a death certificate for one of them in particular, as he is proving difficult to find in other sources. Claire

I have a James PARSONS born approx 1761 but I have no idea where or who his parents were. Did he have any siblings? Can anyone help? He married Rhoda Pollard 31 Oct 1789 at St John Evangelist, Bury, Sussex. (On CD Sussex Marriage Index, listed as James Passon) Rhoda Pollard was born 18-04-1769 Wisborough Green They appear to move between Aldingbourne where their family were christened, Dunsfold and Wisborough Green. He was a preacher at Zoar Chapel at Wisborough Green. James PARSONS died April 1842, Rhoda died Nov 1821. They are both buried at Wisborough Green. Thank you. Margaret Rose Member No 12344

I came acroos a site called the Public Archives of Novia Scotia which says it has a searchable data base of those lost when the Titanic sank.. I google and found this site and others. Frances ----- Original Message ----- From: "Claire Wickens" <clairewickens@waitrose.com> To: "sfhg" <SFHG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:34 PM Subject: [SFHG] death at sea > Hello all. > > Can anyone tell me what record of death would exist for someone who died at sea (on the Titanic in this case) and whose body was not recovered? > > Claire Wickens > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Robin, I have a Luke Tester in my tree. Baptised 9th Dec 1820 at Maresfield. (info from Bapt transcript at Lewes Record Office). Parents James Tester & Mary Morris (my 4x Great Grandparents) Luke had 8 other siblings that I know of. If this is also Your Luke, I would be pleased to send you more information. Regards, Julie Harding -----Original Message----- From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robin Coates Sent: 27 March 2008 16:02 To: SFHG Subject: [SFHG] Luke Tester Hello. I would be gratgeful to anyone who can help me find the parents and date of baptism of LUKE TESTER which I believe took place about 1820, possibly in Buxted. Many thanks, Robin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Last week Mike Strong, in the thread of posts on the subject of John Urpeth Rastrick, mentioned that he would be "guiding tours of the Woodvale & Extra-Mural Cemeteries during Brighton Festival Fringe, which include a visit to Mr Rastrick". If interested, check out the 90 minute tours and a previous year's review at http://www.brightonfestivalfringe.org.uk/listings/webextras.asp?ex=428. If you email Mike at mikestrong@waitrose.com to book and announce yourself on the day, SFHG members and partners can benefit from the £5 concession rate. Alan