You have doubtless looked but Freebmd offers: Births Jun 1866 (>99%) TAYLOR Eliza Clerkenwell 1b593 Births Dec 1866 (>99%) Taylor Eliza Edmonton 3a162 Taylor Eliza A Shoreditch 1c127 Taylor Eliza A Kensington 1a43 Good luck! Bridget 10773 ----- Original Message ---- From: ALAN TUBB <tubbas@btinternet.com> To: SFHG@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 5 April, 2008 4:03:54 PM Subject: [SFHG] Eliza Alice Taylor Hi all, This is my first time in sending a message to the list. I have decided to try my luck at my biggest brick wall which has lasted around 20 years so far without any luck. Eliza Alice Taylor married Arthur Tugwell on the 13th June 1886 at St Peters Church, Brighton. She is shown as aged 20, a spinster and her father is James Taylor, a carman. The witnesses are James Taylor and Amelia Taylor. They had 6 known children :- James (1887), Martha (1888), Elizabeth (1891), Jane (1894), Arthur (1896) and Dorothy (1899) all born in Brighton. On the census, she gives her place of birth simply as London and still indicating that she was born around 1866. I have done a blanket search of the Records Office at Aldwych searching for Eliza Alice Taylor with father of James without any success. With such a common name and in London, it has been a bit of a headache. I am therefore, hoping that there is someone within the Sussex group who may just by some chance have the answer of when, where and to whom she was born. Thanking you for any help you can give. (fingers crossed) Alan Tubb (member 1917) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks John, you are quite right they were married in 1884 at Westhampnett. Mary Ann died in 1898. The 1891 census shows her place of birth as Glasgow. In 1881 there is a Mary Ann Dyer born in Scotland working as a cook at Clifton College, Glos. Apolgies for 'clerical' error. I hope to receive her marriage certificate in a few days. They seem to take for ever to arrive in Spain. Best wishes, Alan 10469 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Cain" <cainjo1@postmaster.co.uk> To: "Alan" <alaninspain@msn.com> Cc: <SFHG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [SFHG] Mary Ann Dyer > Alan. > In your original message requesting information about Mary Ann Dyer, you > said she married James Boxall in Sussex in 1898. Was the date a typing > error? I did a quick check on www.freebmd.org.uk and found James Boxall > married Mary Ann Dyer in Sussex in 1884. The reference is Westhampnett > 2b 611. > I suspect she is the Mary Ann Dyer in the 1851 census at Shettleston (age > 1 lodging ? with the Semple family) in 1861 census at Cambuslang (age 11 > with her EADIE grandparents) in 1871 possibly working as a cook in > Weybridge Surrey (age 23 but shown as born Scotland Sterling). > All rather confusing - where were her parents in 1851 & 1861? > Hope this helps. > John Cain 10370 >

Hi all, This is my first time in sending a message to the list. I have decided to try my luck at my biggest brick wall which has lasted around 20 years so far without any luck. Eliza Alice Taylor married Arthur Tugwell on the 13th June 1886 at St Peters Church, Brighton. She is shown as aged 20, a spinster and her father is James Taylor, a carman. The witnesses are James Taylor and Amelia Taylor. They had 6 known children :- James (1887), Martha (1888), Elizabeth (1891), Jane (1894), Arthur (1896) and Dorothy (1899) all born in Brighton. On the census, she gives her place of birth simply as London and still indicating that she was born around 1866. I have done a blanket search of the Records Office at Aldwych searching for Eliza Alice Taylor with father of James without any success. With such a common name and in London, it has been a bit of a headache. I am therefore, hoping that there is someone within the Sussex group who may just by some chance have the answer of when, where and to whom she was born. Thanking you for any help you can give. (fingers crossed) Alan Tubb (member 1917)

Alan. In your original message requesting information about Mary Ann Dyer, you said she married James Boxall in Sussex in 1898. Was the date a typing error? I did a quick check on www.freebmd.org.uk and found James Boxall married Mary Ann Dyer in Sussex in 1884. The reference is Westhampnett 2b 611. I suspect she is the Mary Ann Dyer in the 1851 census at Shettleston (age 1 lodging ? with the Semple family) in 1861 census at Cambuslang (age 11 with her EADIE grandparents) in 1871 possibly working as a cook in Weybridge Surrey (age 23 but shown as born Scotland Sterling). All rather confusing - where were her parents in 1851 & 1861? Hope this helps. John Cain 10370

Hi Jessie The information packs for the Conference are being prepared now, and will be sent out shortly. They should be received by those who have booked by Wednesday or Thursday next week at the latest. Regards Val Orr Secretary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessie Griffiths" <jessie.griffiths@sky.com> To: <SFHG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 1:39 PM Subject: [SFHG] 12th April conference > Has the booking packs been sent out yet??? if not when are they due???? > Jessie Griffiths > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1356 - Release Date: > 02/04/2008 16:14 > >

I've just received an email which says "will be posting packs to all conference members over the weekend." Alan 1350 Jessie Griffiths wrote: > Has the booking packs been sent out yet??? if not when are they due???? > Jessie Griffiths > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

I've been informed they will be sent out this weekend, later than intended. Judy Excell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessie Griffiths" <jessie.griffiths@sky.com> To: <SFHG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 1:39 PM Subject: [SFHG] 12th April conference > Has the booking packs been sent out yet??? if not when are they due???? > Jessie Griffiths > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Has the booking packs been sent out yet??? if not when are they due???? Jessie Griffiths

Debbie, Could I ask for a copy as well as a number of my Allfrey ancestors were butchers in Brighton. Many thanks Robert Allfrey ----- Original Message ---- From: Deborah Montgomerie <ifm@whidbey.net> To: SFHG@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 2 April, 2008 5:51:12 PM Subject: [SFHG] Butcher occupation Hi Everyone, A little while ago I believe there was a member asking about the occupation of a butcher. I must have got rid of the e-mail but if that person likes to contact me I found an article in an old family history magazine on the butcher trade with some good links to relevant sites. I would be happy to scan it in if it would be of help. Debbie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If any members visit Hurstpierpoint, and go to Farm Park on the Brighton Road for refreshments, just south of there, in a field, is a concrete 'Hereford' cow. But the black markings are a map of Europe! On the OS Landranger map 198 Brighton & Lewes road B2117 - it is by the side road leading to Bedlam Street, by the figure 7 on the map. I saw it whilst finding the way my family must have walked, from Pyecombe Street to go to Hurstpierpoint. It seemed odd, from a distance, as there were no other cows in the field, and it wasnt moving. I walked along that lane out of curiosity, and was leaning on the fence laughing, when the farmer and his wife came along. They obviously were pleased someone appreciated their sense of humour ! It would be fun to keep it as a surprise for a family/group. Diane 10813.

Hi another website for British families in India I've found is : http://www.fibis.org/ Cheers Peter -----Original Message----- From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jill weller Sent: 02 April 2008 23:31 To: cainjo1@postmaster.co.uk; sfhg@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SFHG] British in India John, Thank you for that website - I managed to find quite a few of my mother's ancestors on there. Many thanks. Jill> From: cainjo1@postmaster.co.uk> To: SFHG@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:10:44 +0100> Subject: [SFHG] British in India> > Hi all.> Have just been looking at a website featured in the latest Family Historu Monthly magazine giving various details of British people in India between 1600s and 1949.> I did not find what I wanted but it looks a useful website for anyone who had relatives serving in India, either civil service or army.> I am not technically minded so cannot set up a link to it but the website address is: http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI> The site includes births baptisms marriages deaths burials and an index of some biographies recorded at the India Office.> Hope someone finds this useful.> John Cain 10370> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________

John, Thank you for that website - I managed to find quite a few of my mother's ancestors on there. Many thanks. Jill> From: cainjo1@postmaster.co.uk> To: SFHG@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:10:44 +0100> Subject: [SFHG] British in India> > Hi all.> Have just been looking at a website featured in the latest Family Historu Monthly magazine giving various details of British people in India between 1600s and 1949.> I did not find what I wanted but it looks a useful website for anyone who had relatives serving in India, either civil service or army.> I am not technically minded so cannot set up a link to it but the website address is: http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI> The site includes births baptisms marriages deaths burials and an index of some biographies recorded at the India Office.> Hope someone finds this useful.> John Cain 10370> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile. Text MSN to 63463 now! http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx

Hello I would be interested to know more of the occupation of butchering in the early C18 when my GGgrandfather Henry Newnham was in butchering in Brighton before volunteering in the Grenadier Guards. Jenny 11474

It is so adjacent that I can walk it in 15 minutes. Joe Austen 9934 in OZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham.Noyce" <graham.noyce@ntlworld.com> To: "Marion Woolgar" <listmail2008@btinternet.com>; <judy@wilddoghill.com.au>; <SFHG@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [SFHG] re Sussex place names > Judy, > > In case you are not familiar - Alverstoke is very adjacent to Gosport. > > Graham > > -----Original Message----- > From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com]On > Behalf > Of Marion Woolgar > Sent: 02 April 2008 10:20 > To: judy@wilddoghill.com.au; SFHG@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SFHG] re Sussex place names > > I haven't heard of a Sussex place name caled Durkin, or similar. > > However, in "East Sussex Sentences of Transportation at Quarter Sessions > 1790 to 1854" by Friends of ESRO, there appears the following entry: > > 1835, item 322, case heard in the Adjourned Epipany Sessions > JACQUES, John, 23, papermaker, Alverstoke (Hants)/ Brighton, 7 years. > > So, it would appear from this that he had lived in both Alverstoke in > Hampshire and also Brighton in Sussex. > > Best wishes > > Marion Woolgar > Bognor Regis, West Sussex > SFHG NO: 3323 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.0.212) > Database version: 5.09530 > http://www.pctools.com/uk/spyware-doctor/ > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.4/1355 - Release Date: > 01/04/2008 > 17:37 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.4/1355 - Release Date: > 01/04/2008 > 17:37 > > > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.0.212) > Database version: 5.09530 > http://www.pctools.com/uk/spyware-doctor/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.2/1353 - Release Date: > 31/03/2008 6:21 PM > >

I have in the tree I am researching the following. The first entry for James Bowles is when he married in Harting Sx.James Bowles m to Elizabeth (nee Hill)c 1802. Has anybody got any info.on this Bowles line going backwards.I have some earlier info.on Elizabeth.Their children were born in Treyford with Didling and Singleton Sx. Has anybody have any information on this line Thank you Jessie Griffiths

Hi Michael, Thanks for that. Can anyone tell me more? Alan 10469 ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Burchall To: Alan ; sfhg@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 6:00 PM Subject: RE: [SFHG] Kipson Bank Hi Alan, Kipson Bank is mentioned in Mawr & Stenton's "Place names of Sussex" pp.71-2 as being in Hunstan and deriving from an Old English personal name Cyppi. Michael Burchall > From: alaninspain@msn.com > To: SFHG@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 17:31:16 +0200 > Subject: [SFHG] Kipson Bank > > In the 1861 and 1871 census (or is it censuses?) my BOXALL ancestors were > living at Kipson Bank, Hunston. The OS explorer map shows Kipson House and > Kipson Bank Farm. Can anyone tell me more about the area. Would there have > been tied cottages? > Alan 10469 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it!

If I may add to this, anyone with connections in India might consider joining the Families in British India Society (FIBIS). They are extremely helpful and I have found them pretty knowledgeable about the Indian archives at the British Library, and how to use them. Happy hunting Judith Mooney (10915) -----Original Message----- From: sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sfhg-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of John Cain Sent: 2 April 2008 11:11 To: SFHG@rootsweb.com Subject: [SFHG] British in India Hi all. Have just been looking at a website featured in the latest Family Historu Monthly magazine giving various details of British people in India between 1600s and 1949. I did not find what I wanted but it looks a useful website for anyone who had relatives serving in India, either civil service or army. I am not technically minded so cannot set up a link to it but the website address is: http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI The site includes births baptisms marriages deaths burials and an index of some biographies recorded at the India Office. Hope someone finds this useful. John Cain 10370 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SFHG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.4/1355 - Release Date: 1.Apr.2008 17:37 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.4/1355 - Release Date: 1.Apr.2008 17:37

If 'Durkin' was written badly, it could be Duncton, near Petworth. Tony 9967 > Subject: Re: [SFHG] re Sussex place names > > > > I haven't heard of a Sussex place name caled Durkin, or similar. > > >

Hi again. Having looked at my sent mail box I see that my e-mail automatically set up the link to the website. Happy hunting. John Cain 10370

Hi all. Have just been looking at a website featured in the latest Family Historu Monthly magazine giving various details of British people in India between 1600s and 1949. I did not find what I wanted but it looks a useful website for anyone who had relatives serving in India, either civil service or army. I am not technically minded so cannot set up a link to it but the website address is: http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI The site includes births baptisms marriages deaths burials and an index of some biographies recorded at the India Office. Hope someone finds this useful. John Cain 10370