I have one or two problems Lara - can I take you to dinner sometime? Graham Noyce St Ives Hunts Mem No 9038 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Lara Holman Sent: 22 June 2012 08:52 To: Margaret Smith Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SFHG] HARVEY Harry James Hi Margaret, I found a marriage for Harry on Family Search - transcribed below. You probably ignored the entry in the GRO Index because it's so way out of his original area. But, as you can see, there is a reason for that: 1895 Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of St George Hulme in the County of Manchester No 451 May 27th 1895 Harry James HARVEY, 21, bachelor, Private 6th Dragoons, Hulme Barracks, [son of] James HARVEY, millwright Mabel Laura LOCKYER, 24, spinster, 11 King Street, [dau of] James LOCKYER, seaman Married in the Church of St George according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me, Geo. C. Ranston M.A., Curate [Both parties sign] In the presence of us, John Smith, Martha Moss There is a service record (WO97/3003/1) available for him on FindMyPast which seems to show that he bought himself out of the 6th Dragoons early in 1896. He gives his birthplace as Selmeston - which I notice is where his baptism took place. By the 1901 Census Harry and Mabel are living in Scotland at 28 Lochend Road West, Edinburgh. Harry is listed as Henry J and is now a railway porter. Mabel says that she was born in Japan (and that agrees with an entry for a Mabel Lockyer in 1891 in Manchester working as a servant and saying that she was born in Yokahama, Japan). They have a son, Frank J Harvey, aged 4, born Edinburgh. Harry is still in Edinburgh in 1911 - this time listed (at least on Scotlands People anyway) as Harry J. Hope all this helps! Regards Lara On 21/06/2012 20:25, Margaret Smith wrote: > Harry James HARVEY born 1874 in Alciston, Sussex, son of James and Harriet HARVEY (nee WELLER). He's with his parents in the 1881 census in the Barley Mow Inn in Alciston, and then he's a Plumber's Labourer in Eastbourne in the 1891 census. Then he disappears, I can't find him in later censuses nor a marriage or death registration, nor an immigration. Can anyone help? > > Thanks, Margaret Smith > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5084 - Release Date: 06/21/12

I know this has nothing to do with me as an innocent bystander, but I just have to say what a brilliant piece of detective work Lara! Well done! :-) Tony 11552 > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lara Holman > Sent: 22 June 2012 08:52 > To: Margaret Smith > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SFHG] HARVEY Harry James > > Hi Margaret, > I found a marriage for Harry on Family Search - transcribed > below. You > probably ignored the entry in the GRO Index because it's so > way out of > his original area. But, as you can see, there is a reason for that: > > 1895 Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish > of St George > Hulme in the County of Manchester > No 451 > May 27th 1895 > Harry James HARVEY, 21, bachelor, Private 6th Dragoons, Hulme > Barracks, > [son of] James HARVEY, millwright > Mabel Laura LOCKYER, 24, spinster, 11 King Street, [dau of] James > LOCKYER, seaman > Married in the Church of St George according to the Rites and > Ceremonies > of the Established Church after Banns by me, Geo. C. Ranston > M.A., Curate > [Both parties sign] > In the presence of us, John Smith, Martha Moss > > There is a service record (WO97/3003/1) available for him on > FindMyPast > which seems to show that he bought himself out of the 6th > Dragoons early > in 1896. > He gives his birthplace as Selmeston - which I notice is where his > baptism took place. > > By the 1901 Census Harry and Mabel are living in Scotland at > 28 Lochend > Road West, Edinburgh. Harry is listed as Henry J and is now a railway > porter. Mabel says that she was born in Japan (and that > agrees with an > entry for a Mabel Lockyer in 1891 in Manchester working as a > servant and > saying that she was born in Yokahama, Japan). > They have a son, Frank J Harvey, aged 4, born Edinburgh. > > Harry is still in Edinburgh in 1911 - this time listed (at least on > Scotlands People anyway) as Harry J. > > Hope all this helps! > Regards > Lara > > On 21/06/2012 20:25, Margaret Smith wrote: > > Harry James HARVEY born 1874 in Alciston, Sussex, son of > James and Harriet HARVEY (nee WELLER). He's with his > parents in the 1881 census in the Barley Mow Inn in Alciston, > and then he's a Plumber's Labourer in Eastbourne in the 1891 > census. Then he disappears, I can't find him in later > censuses nor a marriage or death registration, nor an > immigration. Can anyone help? > > > > Thanks, Margaret Smith > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Margaret, I found a marriage for Harry on Family Search - transcribed below. You probably ignored the entry in the GRO Index because it's so way out of his original area. But, as you can see, there is a reason for that: 1895 Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of St George Hulme in the County of Manchester No 451 May 27th 1895 Harry James HARVEY, 21, bachelor, Private 6th Dragoons, Hulme Barracks, [son of] James HARVEY, millwright Mabel Laura LOCKYER, 24, spinster, 11 King Street, [dau of] James LOCKYER, seaman Married in the Church of St George according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me, Geo. C. Ranston M.A., Curate [Both parties sign] In the presence of us, John Smith, Martha Moss There is a service record (WO97/3003/1) available for him on FindMyPast which seems to show that he bought himself out of the 6th Dragoons early in 1896. He gives his birthplace as Selmeston - which I notice is where his baptism took place. By the 1901 Census Harry and Mabel are living in Scotland at 28 Lochend Road West, Edinburgh. Harry is listed as Henry J and is now a railway porter. Mabel says that she was born in Japan (and that agrees with an entry for a Mabel Lockyer in 1891 in Manchester working as a servant and saying that she was born in Yokahama, Japan). They have a son, Frank J Harvey, aged 4, born Edinburgh. Harry is still in Edinburgh in 1911 - this time listed (at least on Scotlands People anyway) as Harry J. Hope all this helps! Regards Lara On 21/06/2012 20:25, Margaret Smith wrote: > Harry James HARVEY born 1874 in Alciston, Sussex, son of James and Harriet HARVEY (nee WELLER). He's with his parents in the 1881 census in the Barley Mow Inn in Alciston, and then he's a Plumber's Labourer in Eastbourne in the 1891 census. Then he disappears, I can't find him in later censuses nor a marriage or death registration, nor an immigration. Can anyone help? > > Thanks, Margaret Smith > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I had the same problem a few months ago, and solved it. I can't remember how I did it off the top of my head but I did tell alan stoner about it regards Joe Austen in oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon and Chris Brickell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 1:43 AM Subject: [SFHG] Sussex Marriage Index CD >I know this has been the subject of correspondence before now, but can >someone tell me how to get the SMI CD to work? > I'm using Windows XP on two different computers, and cannot get the disc > to work on either. Autorun does not start when the CD is inserted, and > clicking on SussMarr.exe brings up a "Runtime Error" message and nothing > else. > > The disc worked fine in the past, on an older computer, and it's a real > nuisance not being able to use the data. > > Is there a way of getting the program to run on XP? > Will it run on newer versions of Windows? (Vista, Win7?) > Is there a way of getting it to work on Mac OS? > Is there any way of using the data on the CD without running the program? > Is the data available anywhere else - on-line via the sfhg website, for > instance, or are there plans to make it available? > > Thanks in advance for any help/advice! > > Simon Brickell > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5082 - Release Date: 06/20/12 >

Have you tried looking for him just by first name, age and place of birth? I've had sucess that way sometimes, when the surname has been misspelt.   Neal ________________________________ From: Margaret Smith <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2012, 20:25 Subject: [SFHG] HARVEY Harry James Harry James HARVEY born 1874 in Alciston, Sussex, son of James and Harriet  HARVEY (nee WELLER).  He's with his parents in the 1881 census in the Barley Mow Inn in Alciston, and then he's a Plumber's Labourer in Eastbourne in the 1891 census.  Then he disappears, I can't find him in later censuses nor a marriage or death registration, nor an immigration.  Can anyone help?   Thanks, Margaret Smith ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pursuing offline. Alan SFHG Webmaster Registered Charity No. 273726 Simon and Chris Brickell wrote on 21/06/2012 16:43: > I know this has been the subject of correspondence before now, but can someone tell me how to get the SMI CD to work? > I'm using Windows XP on two different computers, and cannot get the disc to work on either. Autorun does not start when the CD is inserted, and clicking on SussMarr.exe brings up a "Runtime Error" message and nothing else. > > The disc worked fine in the past, on an older computer, and it's a real nuisance not being able to use the data. > > Is there a way of getting the program to run on XP? > Will it run on newer versions of Windows? (Vista, Win7?) > Is there a way of getting it to work on Mac OS? > Is there any way of using the data on the CD without running the program? > Is the data available anywhere else - on-line via the sfhg website, for instance, or are there plans to make it available? > > Thanks in advance for any help/advice! > > Simon Brickell > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Harry James HARVEY born 1874 in Alciston, Sussex, son of James and Harriet  HARVEY (nee WELLER).  He's with his parents in the 1881 census in the Barley Mow Inn in Alciston, and then he's a Plumber's Labourer in Eastbourne in the 1891 census.  Then he disappears, I can't find him in later censuses nor a marriage or death registration, nor an immigration.  Can anyone help?   Thanks, Margaret Smith

Hello Simon, I can confirm (all being well) that my SMI cd (2004) works on both my laptop running XP and my desk pc running Windows 7 (it also worked when I had Vista). Sorry to ask but have you tried it after rebooting your computer.May be try it on a friend or colleagues pc. Sorry not much help but info that it will work on XP, Vista and Windows 7. Regards Brian AttreeSFHG 3429 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 16:43:56 +0100 > Subject: [SFHG] Sussex Marriage Index CD > > I know this has been the subject of correspondence before now, but can someone tell me how to get the SMI CD to work? > I'm using Windows XP on two different computers, and cannot get the disc to work on either. Autorun does not start when the CD is inserted, and clicking on SussMarr.exe brings up a "Runtime Error" message and nothing else. > > The disc worked fine in the past, on an older computer, and it's a real nuisance not being able to use the data. > > Is there a way of getting the program to run on XP? > Will it run on newer versions of Windows? (Vista, Win7?) > Is there a way of getting it to work on Mac OS? > Is there any way of using the data on the CD without running the program? > Is the data available anywhere else - on-line via the sfhg website, for instance, or are there plans to make it available? > > Thanks in advance for any help/advice! > > Simon Brickell > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Simon - Can't answer your main question, I'm afraid, but I can confirm that SMI works with Vista. Mike Snatt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon and Chris Brickell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 4:43 PM Subject: [SFHG] Sussex Marriage Index CD >I know this has been the subject of correspondence before now, but can >someone tell me how to get the SMI CD to work? > I'm using Windows XP on two different computers, and cannot get the disc > to work on either. Autorun does not start when the CD is inserted, and > clicking on SussMarr.exe brings up a "Runtime Error" message and nothing > else. > > The disc worked fine in the past, on an older computer, and it's a real > nuisance not being able to use the data. > > Is there a way of getting the program to run on XP? > Will it run on newer versions of Windows? (Vista, Win7?) > Is there a way of getting it to work on Mac OS? > Is there any way of using the data on the CD without running the program? > Is the data available anywhere else - on-line via the sfhg website, for > instance, or are there plans to make it available? > > Thanks in advance for any help/advice! > > Simon Brickell > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I know this has been the subject of correspondence before now, but can someone tell me how to get the SMI CD to work? I'm using Windows XP on two different computers, and cannot get the disc to work on either. Autorun does not start when the CD is inserted, and clicking on SussMarr.exe brings up a "Runtime Error" message and nothing else. The disc worked fine in the past, on an older computer, and it's a real nuisance not being able to use the data. Is there a way of getting the program to run on XP? Will it run on newer versions of Windows? (Vista, Win7?) Is there a way of getting it to work on Mac OS? Is there any way of using the data on the CD without running the program? Is the data available anywhere else - on-line via the sfhg website, for instance, or are there plans to make it available? Thanks in advance for any help/advice! Simon Brickell

I'm using my SMI CD on a Win 7 64 bit computer without a problem. This is the original disc which was purchased when they first became available. Try clicking SussMarr.exe in Windows Explorer to see if that works. Bob Dawes #5622 Trenton, Ontario, Canada

Hi Simon, I have Windows XP too & the 2005 issue of the SMI CD. Put your CD into the CD/DVD drive. If it does not automatically open up for you, I would click on Start (bottom left corner of monitor) and My Computer. Under Devices with Removable Storage, you should see the SMI CD has appeared at the E:drive (DVD-RAM drive on my PC). You can click on it & open it this way. This should do the trick..... (from a non-techy) Christine Jackson SFHG 397 ________________________________ From: Simon and Chris Brickell <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:43:56 AM Subject: [SFHG] Sussex Marriage Index CD I know this has been the subject of correspondence before now, but can someone tell me how to get the SMI CD to work? I'm using Windows XP on two different computers, and cannot get the disc to work on either.  Autorun does not start when the CD is inserted, and clicking on SussMarr.exe brings up a "Runtime Error" message and nothing else. The disc worked fine in the past, on an older computer, and it's a real nuisance not being able to use the data. Is there a way of getting the program to run on XP? Will it run on newer versions of Windows? (Vista, Win7?) Is there a way of getting it to work on Mac OS? Is there any way of using the data on the CD without running the program? Is the data available anywhere else - on-line via the sfhg website, for instance, or are there plans to make it available? Thanks in advance for any help/advice! Simon Brickell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Simon, Refer to the instructions on the SFHG website at:  http://www.sfhg.org.uk/smi/smiqueries.html Hopefully something on their page will help. Gerald Peskett 13311 ________________________________ From: Simon and Chris Brickell <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:43:56 AM Subject: [SFHG] Sussex Marriage Index CD I know this has been the subject of correspondence before now, but can someone tell me how to get the SMI CD to work? I'm using Windows XP on two different computers, and cannot get the disc to work on either.  Autorun does not start when the CD is inserted, and clicking on SussMarr.exe brings up a "Runtime Error" message and nothing else. The disc worked fine in the past, on an older computer, and it's a real nuisance not being able to use the data. Is there a way of getting the program to run on XP? Will it run on newer versions of Windows? (Vista, Win7?) Is there a way of getting it to work on Mac OS? Is there any way of using the data on the CD without running the program? Is the data available anywhere else - on-line via the sfhg website, for instance, or are there plans to make it available? Thanks in advance for any help/advice! Simon Brickell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks John for your reply but unfortunately it was the other two sites that I have been looking for. Regards, Terry Britt -----Original Message----- From: John Cain [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 18 June 2012 10:07 To: Terry Britt Subject: Re: [SFHG] SFHG Digest, Vol 7, Issue 98 Commonwealth War Graves Commission site is www.cwgc.org Not sure about other site John Cain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Britt" <[email protected]> To: "adrianfslaughter" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:51:21 PM Subject: Re: [SFHG] SFHG Digest, Vol 7, Issue 98 Hi All, If anyone has these two websites could they please forward it to me also. Thanking you. Terry Britt SFHG No. 12067 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of adrianfslaughter Sent: 02 June 2012 19:51 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SFHG] SFHG Digest, Vol 7, Issue 98 hallo all i have been watching the emails for about one year and have found a few quite useful. a recent email recommended two website addresses for military dead and casualties. one was the commonwealth war graves commission and the other, which i cannot remember leads to a site called casualty search which does not appear in a google search. that email has disappeared from my computer, so i am pleading for someONE to republish or resend that email with the two website addresses. please and thank you adrian slaughter, 14175, submersed in a one-name-study of slaughter in england ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2425/5042 - Release Date: 06/03/12 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My father was an officer in the Church Lads Brigade prior to his service in WW1. It still exists. I don't think it was ever under Army auspices, as mentioned, although it was indeed organised in units and ranks similar to the military and members wore uniform. Further info on www.clcgb.org.uk (It amalgamated with the Church Girls Brigade in the 1970s.) Richard

Hi all. Commonwealth War Graves Commission website is www.cwgc.org John Cain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Britt" <[email protected]> To: "adrianfslaughter" <adrianfslaught[email protected]>, [email protected] Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:51:21 PM Subject: Re: [SFHG] SFHG Digest, Vol 7, Issue 98 Hi All, If anyone has these two websites could they please forward it to me also. Thanking you. Terry Britt SFHG No. 12067 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of adrianfslaughter Sent: 02 June 2012 19:51 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SFHG] SFHG Digest, Vol 7, Issue 98 hallo all i have been watching the emails for about one year and have found a few quite useful. a recent email recommended two website addresses for military dead and casualties. one was the commonwealth war graves commission and the other, which i cannot remember leads to a site called casualty search which does not appear in a google search. that email has disappeared from my computer, so i am pleading for someONE to republish or resend that email with the two website addresses. please and thank you adrian slaughter, 14175, submersed in a one-name-study of slaughter in england ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2425/5042 - Release Date: 06/03/12 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just a general enquiry.  My father (William TESTER) was a member during the 1930s at Handcross, Sussex.  Do any members have people in their trees who may have been in the CLB? The came under Army command at one stage and wore Army style uniforms. Rex

Hi All, If anyone has these two websites could they please forward it to me also. Thanking you. Terry Britt SFHG No. 12067 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of adrianfslaughter Sent: 02 June 2012 19:51 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SFHG] SFHG Digest, Vol 7, Issue 98 hallo all i have been watching the emails for about one year and have found a few quite useful. a recent email recommended two website addresses for military dead and casualties. one was the commonwealth war graves commission and the other, which i cannot remember leads to a site called casualty search which does not appear in a google search. that email has disappeared from my computer, so i am pleading for someONE to republish or resend that email with the two website addresses. please and thank you adrian slaughter, 14175, submersed in a one-name-study of slaughter in england ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2425/5042 - Release Date: 06/03/12

I was interested to read Cathy's naming convention. Some time ago I read a book called "Seed of Albion" which followed the various groups of people emigrating to America. (These were, Puritans, Anglicans, Presbyterians and Quakers.) The book detailed the various attitudes that made these groups tick. Anglican groups normally had royal names, while the others took their names from from the bible. I recall that the Anglican naming convention was very much the same as Cathy quoted. Certainly, my ancestors (Sussex Anglicans) followed the naming convention. Working backwards from my elder brother John Ronald, Ronald James, Walter Herbert, Walter Charles, Walter, Charles, James (1), George(2), John, William, William, William. Of course, not all of them were the first son! Walter Tribe [1820-1876] named his children Walter Charles, Charles, James, George, and Jane. It just so happens that Charles was his father (and father in law), James (1) = grandfather, and George (2) his great grandfather. Co-incidence possibly.... However - Jane is not his wife's name or his mother's name or even his mother in law's name. George(2), married a Dinah Parlett, and her surname appears as a middle name, down the generations presumably she was of some importance. Walter Charles Tribe married a Clara Boxall. Clara's parents were Charles Boxall and Susanna (surname unknown). I have for some time tried to find Susanna's maiden name, but it remains elusive. There are about six Susannas which fit place and date of birth. According to Cathy's naming convention Clara should have named her first daughter for her so it should be Susanna. Walter Charles and Clara's children were Annie May, Clara Kate, and Walter Herbert. Also, in my family tree, is another habit, naming a child after yourself. I have a Rhoda Charity Viney who named her daughter, Rhoda Charity. In the 1841 census, of the 627 individuals, surnamed Tribe, the most common male names were William (50), John, James, Thomas, George, Henry, Charles,and Joseph while the females were Mary(49), Sarah, Elizabeth, Ann, Jane, and Eliza. There was little "spread" with names, and 413 individuals had one of the names above. I guess that the naming conventions sometimes work, it all depends on how much the parents take pride in family descent. Recently, it was stated there was nearly 50 types of "family" so I think that naming conventions are on the way out. However, dare I predict a higher level of "naming" for Genealogists... My wife didn't want our son to be named Ronald as she felt it was too unfashionable. However, my father's middle name is James so he became James Jeffrey. My second son, we named him George William as for the father and grandfather of ancestor James(+). Got all that? I just hope that sometime in the far distant future, my descendents will too.... Jeffrey Tribe. In a message dated 17/06/2012 00:14:10 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: We should also remember that prior to the seventeenth century it was not uncommon for two living sons to bear the same name, and sometimes daughters. Take for instance the Norfolk Paston family where there were two adult sons John in the fifteenth century. Years ago there was considerable correspondence in The Genealogists' Magazine about this subject with numerous examples. One of the main reasons for giving children the same name as an elder sibling was to try and ensure that a family name was continued should the elder child die young. Baxter's patterns are interesting and certainly most families prior to the twentieth century continued the same forename from one generation In a message dated 16/06/2012 17:59:10 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I took this extract from an article by Donna Przecha on Genealogy.com: Naming Patterns You will often see the same names used over and over again in families. While certain names are popular in different areas in different times in history, the repetition could represent a pattern. Many cultures believe in honoring their elders and do so by naming children after them. Angus Baxter in "In Search of Your British and Irish Roots" describes a pattern that was popular in England in the 1700-1875 period: The first son was named after the father's father The second son was named after the mother's father The third son was named after the father The fourth son was named after the father's eldest brother The first daughter after the mother's mother The second daughter after the father's mother The third daughter after the mother The fourth daughter after the mother's eldest sister If this pattern would result in a duplication of names - i.e., both grandfathers had the same name - then they would skip to the next one on the list. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Austen Sent: 16 June 2012 10:02 To: [email protected] Subject: [SFHG] naming formula I know that I have asked this question before, and I know that I have received an answer, because I spent some time searching the archives, but can't find it so will some kind soul please tell me about the formula for naming children from large families. Regards Joe Austen 9934 in the good old land of OZ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2433/5073 - Release Date: 06/16/12 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My thanks to all who responded I now have what I was looking for. Regards Joe Austen 9934 in a wintry(for us 13c-24c)OZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alison Elliott" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:44 AM Subject: Re: [SFHG] naming formula > > My husband's family in Sussex clearly used this pattern from about 1750 > to 1870ish. They also used mothes' maiden names as middle names from 1780 > onwards and carried these middle names forwards as well. e.g. I > researched a middle name of DUKE given to a children b in the 1880s and > found it related back to a g-grandmother's maiden name - she was born in > 1786 - that helped me identify the correct marriage.My ancestors in > Scotland used a similar system of naming.However sometimes they also used > names with no apparent connection to anybody in the family, who may have > been a respected person or local dignitary or close friend/relative etc. - > so you have to be careful ! - I have an ancestor with middle name of > BURNS - she was born 100 years after Robbie BURNS !Alison8507 > > From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:54:06 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [SFHG] naming formula >> >> I took this extract from an article by Donna Przecha on Genealogy.com: >> >> Naming Patterns >> >> You will often see the same names used over and over again in families. >> While certain names are popular in different areas in different times in >> history, the repetition could represent a pattern. Many cultures believe >> in >> honoring their elders and do so by naming children after them. Angus >> Baxter >> in "In Search of Your British and Irish Roots" describes a pattern that >> was >> popular in England in the 1700-1875 period: >> >> The first son was named after the father's father >> The second son was named after the mother's father >> The third son was named after the father >> The fourth son was named after the father's eldest brother >> The first daughter after the mother's mother >> The second daughter after the father's mother >> The third daughter after the mother >> The fourth daughter after the mother's eldest sister >> >> If this pattern would result in a duplication of names - i.e., both >> grandfathers had the same name - then they would skip to the next one on >> the >> list. >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf >> Of Joe Austen >> Sent: 16 June 2012 10:02 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [SFHG] naming formula >> >> I know that I have asked this question before, and I know that I have >> received an answer, because I spent some time searching the archives, but >> can't find it >> so will some kind soul please tell me about the formula for naming >> children >> from large families. Regards Joe Austen 9934 in the good old land of OZ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in >> the subject and the body of the message >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2433/5073 - Release Date: 06/16/12 >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2433/5073 - Release Date: 06/16/12 >