I can't claim this as a brick wall since I have not had an opportunity to follow up all the clues but I would be grateful for any information about three generations of men with the name Robert TAYER. The first Robert, described as Robert Tayer of Charleton [the catalogue entry says Charleton, Steyning which seems to be incorrect however I have not seen the original] was appointed under Sheriff of Surrey and Sussex by Robert Moreley in 1631. He remained under Sheriff until at least 1637 when he made reports to parliament about the collection of ship-money. In 1635 he purchased Littleton Farm, Upwaltham. (in this document he is described as Robert Tayer of Charleton, Singleton, gent). His son Robert (2) was baptised at Singleton in 1638 however I have not found him in the Protestation returns of 1641. The baptism of Robert (2) gives his mother's name as Mary. In 1665/6 Robert (2), described as being of Midhurst, gent, and his mother, described as Mary Turner of Singleton, widow (another error or did she remarry and is a widow for the second time??) signed a marriage settlement with William Thornbury of London, gent and his son Timothy - property Littleton Farm. On 21 Feb 1665/6 Robert Tayer, bachelor of Charleton, Singleton, aged 26, married Eunice Thornbury at St Olave Hart Street, London. Robert (2) and Eunice went on to have a family of six (Robert (3), Lois, Virgin, Ann (bap 1678, St Peter the Great, Chichester), Dorothy (bap 1680, St Peter the Great, Chichester) and Eunice). Robert Tayer (2) was Mayor of Chichester in 1683-84 and in 1685 he was given the position of Customer for the port of Chichester. He died in 1718 and was buried at Singleton. His wife Eunice was his Executrix and sole beneficiary under his will. Can anyone help me to locate: 1. The marriage of Robert (1) and Mary ?. There is a marriage in the Sussex Marriage Index - Robert Tayer & Mary Meredith 23 July 1627 which some researchers seem to have claimed but that marriage is the second marriage of a Robert Tayer who was the rector at Tangmere and who died in 1629. 2. Death/burial or a will for Robert (1) 3. Possible subsequent remarriage of his widow Mary Tayer to ? Turner. 4. Baptisms for Robert, Lois, Virgin and Eunice Tayer between 1666 and 1685 (parents Robert Tayer & Eunice). 5. This is wishful thinking - the baptism of Robert (1) and names of his parents. Robert Tayer, rector of Tangmere, was born at Newbury, Berkshire c1558. If they were related then my Tayer family may have originated in that area. Thank you Gillian Melbourne, Australia

Can anyone tell me anything about the following from Wivelsfield c1640-1660?: A John Oliver "maultman" A James Nicholls minister/rector What is a "Jackmaker"? Donna  Michigan, USA   The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails.

Given the difficulties with your research, have you considered the possibility that there may be different ways of spelling the surname of TAYER? For example, there is a marriage on 09 Jun 1606 between Robert THAYER and Mary JONES at Lambeth, St Mary. Admittedly, it is a little early in date, even assuming that Robert (2) may be the youngest child of the marriage, but the general idea might be worth investigating, if you haven't already done so. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

Hello Gillian. Re the origin of the name, you may find it of interest to have a look at http://www.publicprofiler.org/index.php?p=familyname (NB the link to the British Family Names site doesn't seem to be working but you can still look at the world map and home in on the UK.) In England the highest concentrations are in the south east, East Anglia, Yorkshire and Humberside. Good luck with your hunt - they sound like an interesting family! Claire -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of GW3190 Sent: 24 June 2012 04:24 To: [email protected] Subject: [SFHG] Robert TAYER I can't claim this as a brick wall since I have not had an opportunity to follow up all the clues but I would be grateful for any information about three generations of men with the name Robert TAYER. The first Robert, described as Robert Tayer of Charleton [the catalogue entry says Charleton, Steyning which seems to be incorrect however I have not seen the original] was appointed under Sheriff of Surrey and Sussex by Robert Moreley in 1631. He remained under Sheriff until at least 1637 when he made reports to parliament about the collection of ship-money. In 1635 he purchased Littleton Farm, Upwaltham. (in this document he is described as Robert Tayer of Charleton, Singleton, gent). His son Robert (2) was baptised at Singleton in 1638 however I have not found him in the Protestation returns of 1641. The baptism of Robert (2) gives his mother's name as Mary. In 1665/6 Robert (2), described as being of Midhurst, gent, and his mother, described as Mary Turner of Singleton, widow (another error or did she remarry and is a widow for the second time??) signed a marriage settlement with William Thornbury of London, gent and his son Timothy - property Littleton Farm. On 21 Feb 1665/6 Robert Tayer, bachelor of Charleton, Singleton, aged 26, married Eunice Thornbury at St Olave Hart Street, London. Robert (2) and Eunice went on to have a family of six (Robert (3), Lois, Virgin, Ann (bap 1678, St Peter the Great, Chichester), Dorothy (bap 1680, St Peter the Great, Chichester) and Eunice). Robert Tayer (2) was Mayor of Chichester in 1683-84 and in 1685 he was given the position of Customer for the port of Chichester. He died in 1718 and was buried at Singleton. His wife Eunice was his Executrix and sole beneficiary under his will. Can anyone help me to locate: 1. The marriage of Robert (1) and Mary ?. There is a marriage in the Sussex Marriage Index - Robert Tayer & Mary Meredith 23 July 1627 which some researchers seem to have claimed but that marriage is the second marriage of a Robert Tayer who was the rector at Tangmere and who died in 1629. 2. Death/burial or a will for Robert (1) 3. Possible subsequent remarriage of his widow Mary Tayer to ? Turner. 4. Baptisms for Robert, Lois, Virgin and Eunice Tayer between 1666 and 1685 (parents Robert Tayer & Eunice). 5. This is wishful thinking - the baptism of Robert (1) and names of his parents. Robert Tayer, rector of Tangmere, was born at Newbury, Berkshire c1558. If they were related then my Tayer family may have originated in that area. Thank you Gillian Melbourne, Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to everyone who replied to my recent query and for the various suggestions. No success so far, although there has been some progress with the method of putting the module onto the hard drive. Now I can open the program but still can't search for anything. Still trying...! Simon Brickell

Cathy, If you think they may have emigrated immediately after their marriage have you tried: http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/ which allows you to search the Canada 1911 census? Good luck Phil Stevens On 22/06/2012, Cathy Bonner <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello my member no is 14741 and I am wondering whether any of you can help > me with my family tree. I need someone with a subscription to ancestry.co.uk > as I have found other people linked to my ancestors on MY tree. The person > named above married my great-uncle Henry CARTER in London 1909 and they went > to Canada.I would be grateful for any help please.Thank youCathy Bonner > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Greetings Listers I've had a stray William SHOESMITH (ancestor, wife unknown) on my database for some time. The baptism of the first child is 1645, and the only likely marriage I can find is this one: Extract from the Sussex Marriage Index: Place: Mayfield, East Sussex, Date: 27 May 1641: Subject: William SHOESMITH Spouse: Grace MEPHAM I have noticed a number of MEPHAM queries on the List over the years, and wonder if anyone can tell me anything about this possible marriage. The children I have for William (wife not listed in PR) are: Mary (1645), John (1647) and William (1650). If I've got it right, I'm descended from William through his second marriage to Dorothy SMITH. My query for now is this: is Grace MEPHAM an ancestor of mine, or not? Or is this not the marriage of 'my William'? Many thanks. Cheers Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia

Cathy, I have looked on Ancestry and yes, 3 people have posted trees on it. What exactly are you looking for? Regards, Brian Denn -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cathy Bonner Sent: 22 June 2012 12:34 To: [email protected] Subject: [SFHG] Ethel Leah Fanny Beasant 1887-1964 Hello my member no is 14741 and I am wondering whether any of you can help me with my family tree. I need someone with a subscription to ancestry.co.uk as I have found other people linked to my ancestors on MY tree. The person named above married my great-uncle Henry CARTER in London 1909 and they went to Canada.I would be grateful for any help please.Thank youCathy Bonner ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

MATTHEW WISEMAN I have a tree On Ancestry That's leaving me deflated I cannot find the parents To whom Matthew is related His birth was 1746 And Sarah Simms, his bride Their marriage, Clapham parish Where the two of them reside His occupation, Servingman He died in '96 Their offspring's baptisms, occurred In Brighton at St Nich's. I've searched for 30 years, or more And still to no avail... Please, someone end my misery And find my 'Holy Grail' As I say, I have been trying to find Matthew's roots for many, many years and have amassed a fair amount of information on his surrounding family ... but nothing on his parents. I should love some help please. Kind regards Jill

Hi Thanks I'll have a look at the homepage again Yes, I don't have anything on the parents so can't get back any further. I find a Henry and then Ann is too young to be his wife! Thanks again Ann -----Original Message----- From: Lara Holman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 22 June 2012 13:28 To: Ann Eldridge Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SFHG] HARVEY Harry James Hi Ann, The information on the marriage came from Family Search at https://www.familysearch.org/ There are lots of original records - quite a few with images - available on the site. I can get lost in there for days on end! Not all are searchable yet and have to be browsed through. If you wind down the homepage and link through the various geographical areas, you can see what's available. Lots and lots of diverse stuff. As for your problem.... I, and I'm sure others, will have a look! But what is the nature of your problem? Do you mean that you have no other reference to the parents apart from on that particular baptism? In which case you are looking for them both before and after that event?? Regards Lara On 22/06/2012 13:18, Ann Eldridge wrote: > How do you get so much information from familysearch? This was fascinating. > > Well done > > If you like puzzles can you find the parents of Benjamin Bassett born > in Lewes, Sussex in 1807- his parents are listed as Henry Bassett and Ann. > Benjamin died in 1881 in Chailey and was buried in St Peters Chailey. > This is a huge brick wall. > > Thanks > > Ann 11995 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [m ailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Lara Holman > Sent: 22 June 2012 09:28 > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SFHG] HARVEY Harry James > > Thank you Tony! But it was also so much fun!! > Can't resist a puzzle :-) > Lara > > On 22/06/2012 09:17, Tony Golding wrote: >> I know this has nothing to do with me as an innocent bystander, but I >> just have to say what a brilliant piece of detective work Lara! Well >> done! :-) >> >> Tony 11552 >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lara Holman >>> Sent: 22 June 2012 08:52 >>> To: Margaret Smith >>> Cc: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [SFHG] HARVEY Harry James >>> >>> Hi Margaret, >>> I found a marriage for Harry on Family Search - transcribed below. >>> You probably ignored the entry in the GRO Index because it's so way >>> out of his original area. But, as you can see, there is a reason for >>> that: >>> >>> 1895 Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of St >>> George Hulme in the County of Manchester No 451 May 27th 1895 Harry >>> James HARVEY, 21, bachelor, Private 6th Dragoons, Hulme Barracks, >>> [son of] James HARVEY, millwright Mabel Laura LOCKYER, 24, spinster, >>> 11 King Street, [dau of] James LOCKYER, seaman Married in the Church >>> of St George according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the >>> Established Church after Banns by me, Geo. C. Ranston M.A., Curate >>> [Both parties sign] In the presence of us, John Smith, Martha Moss >>> >>> There is a service record (WO97/3003/1) available for him on >>> FindMyPast which seems to show that he bought himself out of the 6th >>> Dragoons early in 1896. >>> He gives his birthplace as Selmeston - which I notice is where his >>> baptism took place. >>> >>> By the 1901 Census Harry and Mabel are living in Scotland at >>> 28 Lochend >>> Road West, Edinburgh. Harry is listed as Henry J and is now a >>> railway porter. Mabel says that she was born in Japan (and that >>> agrees with an entry for a Mabel Lockyer in 1891 in Manchester >>> working as a servant and saying that she was born in Yokahama, Japan). >>> They have a son, Frank J Harvey, aged 4, born Edinburgh. >>> >>> Harry is still in Edinburgh in 1911 - this time listed (at least on >>> Scotlands People anyway) as Harry J. >>> >>> Hope all this helps! >>> Regards >>> Lara >>> >>> On 21/06/2012 20:25, Margaret Smith wrote: >>>> Harry James HARVEY born 1874 in Alciston, Sussex, son of >>> James and Harriet HARVEY (nee WELLER). He's with his parents in >>> the >>> 1881 census in the Barley Mow Inn in Alciston, and then he's a >>> Plumber's Labourer in Eastbourne in the 1891 census. Then he >>> disappears, I can't find him in later censuses nor a marriage or >>> death registration, nor an immigration. Can anyone help? >>>> >>>> Thanks, Margaret Smith >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Ann, The information on the marriage came from Family Search at https://www.familysearch.org/ There are lots of original records - quite a few with images - available on the site. I can get lost in there for days on end! Not all are searchable yet and have to be browsed through. If you wind down the homepage and link through the various geographical areas, you can see what's available. Lots and lots of diverse stuff. As for your problem.... I, and I'm sure others, will have a look! But what is the nature of your problem? Do you mean that you have no other reference to the parents apart from on that particular baptism? In which case you are looking for them both before and after that event?? Regards Lara On 22/06/2012 13:18, Ann Eldridge wrote: > How do you get so much information from familysearch? This was fascinating. > > Well done > > If you like puzzles can you find the parents of Benjamin Bassett born in > Lewes, Sussex in 1807- his parents are listed as Henry Bassett and Ann. > Benjamin died in 1881 in Chailey and was buried in St Peters Chailey. This > is a huge brick wall. > > Thanks > > Ann 11995 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [m ailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Lara Holman > Sent: 22 June 2012 09:28 > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SFHG] HARVEY Harry James > > Thank you Tony! But it was also so much fun!! > Can't resist a puzzle :-) > Lara > > On 22/06/2012 09:17, Tony Golding wrote: >> I know this has nothing to do with me as an innocent bystander, but I >> just have to say what a brilliant piece of detective work Lara! Well >> done! :-) >> >> Tony 11552 >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lara Holman >>> Sent: 22 June 2012 08:52 >>> To: Margaret Smith >>> Cc: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [SFHG] HARVEY Harry James >>> >>> Hi Margaret, >>> I found a marriage for Harry on Family Search - transcribed below. >>> You probably ignored the entry in the GRO Index because it's so way >>> out of his original area. But, as you can see, there is a reason for >>> that: >>> >>> 1895 Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of St >>> George Hulme in the County of Manchester No 451 May 27th 1895 Harry >>> James HARVEY, 21, bachelor, Private 6th Dragoons, Hulme Barracks, >>> [son of] James HARVEY, millwright Mabel Laura LOCKYER, 24, spinster, >>> 11 King Street, [dau of] James LOCKYER, seaman Married in the Church >>> of St George according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established >>> Church after Banns by me, Geo. C. Ranston M.A., Curate [Both parties >>> sign] In the presence of us, John Smith, Martha Moss >>> >>> There is a service record (WO97/3003/1) available for him on >>> FindMyPast which seems to show that he bought himself out of the 6th >>> Dragoons early in 1896. >>> He gives his birthplace as Selmeston - which I notice is where his >>> baptism took place. >>> >>> By the 1901 Census Harry and Mabel are living in Scotland at >>> 28 Lochend >>> Road West, Edinburgh. Harry is listed as Henry J and is now a railway >>> porter. Mabel says that she was born in Japan (and that agrees with >>> an entry for a Mabel Lockyer in 1891 in Manchester working as a >>> servant and saying that she was born in Yokahama, Japan). >>> They have a son, Frank J Harvey, aged 4, born Edinburgh. >>> >>> Harry is still in Edinburgh in 1911 - this time listed (at least on >>> Scotlands People anyway) as Harry J. >>> >>> Hope all this helps! >>> Regards >>> Lara >>> >>> On 21/06/2012 20:25, Margaret Smith wrote: >>>> Harry James HARVEY born 1874 in Alciston, Sussex, son of >>> James and Harriet HARVEY (nee WELLER). He's with his parents in the >>> 1881 census in the Barley Mow Inn in Alciston, and then he's a >>> Plumber's Labourer in Eastbourne in the 1891 census. Then he >>> disappears, I can't find him in later censuses nor a marriage or >>> death registration, nor an immigration. Can anyone help? >>>> >>>> Thanks, Margaret Smith >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > >

Just like to remind members that Mailing List queries do not have to be Sussex. Many of us live in Sussex with no Sussex ancestry. Judy Excell -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lara Holman" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:36 AM To: "Graham Noyce" <[email protected]> Cc: "Margaret Smith" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SFHG] HARVEY Harry James > LOL - if only Northumberland wasn't so far from Huntingdonshire!! :-) > I also have brickwalls which cause me endless frustration - so it's > always feels great to help someone take down one of theirs. > Have you posted yours to the list? Or maybe they don't relate to Sussex? > > Lara >

How do you get so much information from familysearch? This was fascinating. Well done If you like puzzles can you find the parents of Benjamin Bassett born in Lewes, Sussex in 1807- his parents are listed as Henry Bassett and Ann. Benjamin died in 1881 in Chailey and was buried in St Peters Chailey. This is a huge brick wall. Thanks Ann 11995 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [m ailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lara Holman Sent: 22 June 2012 09:28 To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SFHG] HARVEY Harry James Thank you Tony! But it was also so much fun!! Can't resist a puzzle :-) Lara On 22/06/2012 09:17, Tony Golding wrote: > I know this has nothing to do with me as an innocent bystander, but I > just have to say what a brilliant piece of detective work Lara! Well > done! :-) > > Tony 11552 > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lara Holman >> Sent: 22 June 2012 08:52 >> To: Margaret Smith >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [SFHG] HARVEY Harry James >> >> Hi Margaret, >> I found a marriage for Harry on Family Search - transcribed below. >> You probably ignored the entry in the GRO Index because it's so way >> out of his original area. But, as you can see, there is a reason for >> that: >> >> 1895 Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of St >> George Hulme in the County of Manchester No 451 May 27th 1895 Harry >> James HARVEY, 21, bachelor, Private 6th Dragoons, Hulme Barracks, >> [son of] James HARVEY, millwright Mabel Laura LOCKYER, 24, spinster, >> 11 King Street, [dau of] James LOCKYER, seaman Married in the Church >> of St George according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established >> Church after Banns by me, Geo. C. Ranston M.A., Curate [Both parties >> sign] In the presence of us, John Smith, Martha Moss >> >> There is a service record (WO97/3003/1) available for him on >> FindMyPast which seems to show that he bought himself out of the 6th >> Dragoons early in 1896. >> He gives his birthplace as Selmeston - which I notice is where his >> baptism took place. >> >> By the 1901 Census Harry and Mabel are living in Scotland at >> 28 Lochend >> Road West, Edinburgh. Harry is listed as Henry J and is now a railway >> porter. Mabel says that she was born in Japan (and that agrees with >> an entry for a Mabel Lockyer in 1891 in Manchester working as a >> servant and saying that she was born in Yokahama, Japan). >> They have a son, Frank J Harvey, aged 4, born Edinburgh. >> >> Harry is still in Edinburgh in 1911 - this time listed (at least on >> Scotlands People anyway) as Harry J. >> >> Hope all this helps! >> Regards >> Lara >> >> On 21/06/2012 20:25, Margaret Smith wrote: >>> Harry James HARVEY born 1874 in Alciston, Sussex, son of >> James and Harriet HARVEY (nee WELLER). He's with his parents in the >> 1881 census in the Barley Mow Inn in Alciston, and then he's a >> Plumber's Labourer in Eastbourne in the 1891 census. Then he >> disappears, I can't find him in later censuses nor a marriage or >> death registration, nor an immigration. Can anyone help? >>> >>> Thanks, Margaret Smith >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am Cathy Bonner member no 14741. Two of my ancestors died abroad -  one in the USA in 1964 and the other one sometime after 1958.Their names are Ethel Hogan died Boston Massachusets USA in 1964, the other is her ex-husband Henry Carter. Miss Ethel Leah Fanny Beasant married Henry Carter in London in 1909 and they had a son called George Joseph Alfred CARTER b. 1910 in Reigate. The son was left behind in England as his parents went to Canada.He died in 1969 aged 59 in Reigate.I have made contact with George Joseph's daughter who told me that her gran was called HOGAN - not the CARTER that I was expecting.Can anyone help me with a) finding out about Mrs.Hogan and Mr.Carter and b) How I obtain death certificates for both of them.I have asked the family that I DO know here but no-one knows anymore than I have mentioned.Thank youCathy

Hello my member no is 14741 and I am wondering whether any of you can help me with my family tree. I need someone with a subscription to ancestry.co.uk as I have found other people linked to my ancestors on MY tree. The person named above married my great-uncle Henry CARTER in London 1909 and they went to Canada.I would be grateful for any help please.Thank youCathy Bonner

No problem Margaret. Looks like this could lead down some interesting paths! Lara On 22/06/2012 10:57, Margaret Smith wrote: > Wow Lara, that's great. Indeed it does help. Thank you so much. I > had looked quite hard for him several years ago but I've recently been > revisiting my Sussex people and obviously hadn't trawled widely enough > for him. I shall now look into all the avenues you've shown. Many > thanks again for your kindness in looking into this. Margaret > > *From:* Lara Holman <[email protected]> > *To:* Margaret Smith <[email protected]> > *Cc:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, 22 June 2012, 8:52 > *Subject:* Re: [SFHG] HARVEY Harry James > > Hi Margaret, > I found a marriage for Harry on Family Search - transcribed below. You > probably ignored the entry in the GRO Index because it's so way out of > his original area. But, as you can see, there is a reason for that: > > 1895 Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of St > George Hulme in the County of Manchester > No 451 > May 27th 1895 > Harry James HARVEY, 21, bachelor, Private 6th Dragoons, Hulme > Barracks, [son of] James HARVEY, millwright > Mabel Laura LOCKYER, 24, spinster, 11 King Street, [dau of] James > LOCKYER, seaman > Married in the Church of St George according to the Rites and > Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me, Geo. C. > Ranston M.A., Curate > [Both parties sign] > In the presence of us, John Smith, Martha Moss > > There is a service record (WO97/3003/1) available for him on > FindMyPast which seems to show that he bought himself out of the 6th > Dragoons early in 1896. > He gives his birthplace as Selmeston - which I notice is where his > baptism took place. > > By the 1901 Census Harry and Mabel are living in Scotland at 28 > Lochend Road West, Edinburgh. Harry is listed as Henry J and is now a > railway porter. Mabel says that she was born in Japan (and that agrees > with an entry for a Mabel Lockyer in 1891 in Manchester working as a > servant and saying that she was born in Yokahama, Japan). > They have a son, Frank J Harvey, aged 4, born Edinburgh. > > Harry is still in Edinburgh in 1911 - this time listed (at least on > Scotlands People anyway) as Harry J. > > Hope all this helps! > Regards > Lara > > On 21/06/2012 20:25, Margaret Smith wrote: > > Harry James HARVEY born 1874 in Alciston, Sussex, son of James and > Harriet HARVEY (nee WELLER). He's with his parents in the 1881 > census in the Barley Mow Inn in Alciston, and then he's a Plumber's > Labourer in Eastbourne in the 1891 census. Then he disappears, I > can't find him in later censuses nor a marriage or death registration, > nor an immigration. Can anyone help? > > Thanks, Margaret Smith > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > > > > > >

Hello Neal,  Yes I did try other ways but obviously not so persistent as Lara who's solved my puzzle brilliantly.  Margaret ________________________________ From: Neal Ward <[email protected]> To: Margaret Smith <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012, 0:05 Subject: Re: [SFHG] HARVEY Harry James Have you tried looking for him just by first name, age and place of birth? I've had sucess that way sometimes, when the surname has been misspelt.   Neal ________________________________ From: Margaret Smith <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2012, 20:25 Subject: [SFHG] HARVEY Harry James Harry James HARVEY born 1874 in Alciston, Sussex, son of James and Harriet  HARVEY (nee WELLER).  He's with his parents in the 1881 census in the Barley Mow Inn in Alciston, and then he's a Plumber's Labourer in Eastbourne in the 1891 census.  Then he disappears, I can't find him in later censuses nor a marriage or death registration, nor an immigration.  Can anyone help?   Thanks, Margaret Smith ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wow Lara, that's great.  Indeed it does help.  Thank you so much.  I had looked quite hard for him several years ago but I've recently been revisiting my Sussex people and obviously hadn't trawled widely enough for him.  I shall now look into all the avenues you've shown.  Many thanks again for your kindness in looking into this.  Margaret ________________________________ From: Lara Holman <[email protected]> To: Margaret Smith <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012, 8:52 Subject: Re: [SFHG] HARVEY Harry James Hi Margaret, I found a marriage for Harry on Family Search - transcribed below. You probably ignored the entry in the GRO Index because it's so way out of his original area. But, as you can see, there is a reason for that: 1895 Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of St George Hulme in the County of Manchester No 451 May 27th 1895 Harry James HARVEY, 21, bachelor, Private 6th Dragoons, Hulme Barracks, [son of] James HARVEY, millwright Mabel Laura LOCKYER, 24, spinster, 11 King Street, [dau of] James LOCKYER, seaman Married in the Church of St George according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me, Geo. C. Ranston M.A., Curate [Both parties sign] In the presence of us, John Smith, Martha Moss There is a service record (WO97/3003/1) available for him on FindMyPast which seems to show that he bought himself out of the 6th Dragoons early in 1896. He gives his birthplace as Selmeston - which I notice is where his baptism took place. By the 1901 Census Harry and Mabel are living in Scotland at 28 Lochend Road West, Edinburgh. Harry is listed as Henry J and is now a railway porter. Mabel says that she was born in Japan (and that agrees with an entry for a Mabel Lockyer in 1891 in Manchester working as a servant and saying that she was born in Yokahama, Japan). They have a son, Frank J Harvey, aged 4, born Edinburgh. Harry is still in Edinburgh in 1911 - this time listed (at least on Scotlands People anyway) as Harry J. Hope all this helps! Regards Lara On 21/06/2012 20:25, Margaret Smith wrote: > Harry James HARVEY born 1874 in Alciston, Sussex, son of James and Harriet  HARVEY (nee WELLER).  He's with his parents in the 1881 census in the Barley Mow Inn in Alciston, and then he's a Plumber's Labourer in Eastbourne in the 1891 census.  Then he disappears, I can't find him in later censuses nor a marriage or death registration, nor an immigration.  Can anyone help? >  Thanks, Margaret Smith >  ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

LOL - if only Northumberland wasn't so far from Huntingdonshire!! :-) I also have brickwalls which cause me endless frustration - so it's always feels great to help someone take down one of theirs. Have you posted yours to the list? Or maybe they don't relate to Sussex? Lara On 22/06/2012 09:24, Graham Noyce wrote: > I have one or two problems Lara - can I take you to dinner sometime? > > Graham Noyce > St Ives Hunts > Mem No 9038 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf > Of Lara Holman > Sent: 22 June 2012 08:52 > To: Margaret Smith > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SFHG] HARVEY Harry James > > Hi Margaret, > I found a marriage for Harry on Family Search - transcribed below. You > probably ignored the entry in the GRO Index because it's so way out of > his original area. But, as you can see, there is a reason for that: > > 1895 Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of St George > Hulme in the County of Manchester > No 451 > May 27th 1895 > Harry James HARVEY, 21, bachelor, Private 6th Dragoons, Hulme Barracks, > [son of] James HARVEY, millwright > Mabel Laura LOCKYER, 24, spinster, 11 King Street, [dau of] James > LOCKYER, seaman > Married in the Church of St George according to the Rites and Ceremonies > of the Established Church after Banns by me, Geo. C. Ranston M.A., Curate > [Both parties sign] > In the presence of us, John Smith, Martha Moss > > There is a service record (WO97/3003/1) available for him on FindMyPast > which seems to show that he bought himself out of the 6th Dragoons early > in 1896. > He gives his birthplace as Selmeston - which I notice is where his > baptism took place. > > By the 1901 Census Harry and Mabel are living in Scotland at 28 Lochend > Road West, Edinburgh. Harry is listed as Henry J and is now a railway > porter. Mabel says that she was born in Japan (and that agrees with an > entry for a Mabel Lockyer in 1891 in Manchester working as a servant and > saying that she was born in Yokahama, Japan). > They have a son, Frank J Harvey, aged 4, born Edinburgh. > > Harry is still in Edinburgh in 1911 - this time listed (at least on > Scotlands People anyway) as Harry J. > > Hope all this helps! > Regards > Lara > > On 21/06/2012 20:25, Margaret Smith wrote: >> Harry James HARVEY born 1874 in Alciston, Sussex, son of James and Harriet > HARVEY (nee WELLER). He's with his parents in the 1881 census in the Barley > Mow Inn in Alciston, and then he's a Plumber's Labourer in Eastbourne in the > 1891 census. Then he disappears, I can't find him in later censuses nor a > marriage or death registration, nor an immigration. Can anyone help? >> Thanks, Margaret Smith >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5084 - Release Date: 06/21/12 > > >

Thank you Tony! But it was also so much fun!! Can't resist a puzzle :-) Lara On 22/06/2012 09:17, Tony Golding wrote: > I know this has nothing to do with me as an innocent bystander, but I just > have to say what a brilliant piece of detective work Lara! Well done! :-) > > Tony 11552 > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lara Holman >> Sent: 22 June 2012 08:52 >> To: Margaret Smith >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [SFHG] HARVEY Harry James >> >> Hi Margaret, >> I found a marriage for Harry on Family Search - transcribed >> below. You >> probably ignored the entry in the GRO Index because it's so >> way out of >> his original area. But, as you can see, there is a reason for that: >> >> 1895 Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish >> of St George >> Hulme in the County of Manchester >> No 451 >> May 27th 1895 >> Harry James HARVEY, 21, bachelor, Private 6th Dragoons, Hulme >> Barracks, >> [son of] James HARVEY, millwright >> Mabel Laura LOCKYER, 24, spinster, 11 King Street, [dau of] James >> LOCKYER, seaman >> Married in the Church of St George according to the Rites and >> Ceremonies >> of the Established Church after Banns by me, Geo. C. Ranston >> M.A., Curate >> [Both parties sign] >> In the presence of us, John Smith, Martha Moss >> >> There is a service record (WO97/3003/1) available for him on >> FindMyPast >> which seems to show that he bought himself out of the 6th >> Dragoons early >> in 1896. >> He gives his birthplace as Selmeston - which I notice is where his >> baptism took place. >> >> By the 1901 Census Harry and Mabel are living in Scotland at >> 28 Lochend >> Road West, Edinburgh. Harry is listed as Henry J and is now a railway >> porter. Mabel says that she was born in Japan (and that >> agrees with an >> entry for a Mabel Lockyer in 1891 in Manchester working as a >> servant and >> saying that she was born in Yokahama, Japan). >> They have a son, Frank J Harvey, aged 4, born Edinburgh. >> >> Harry is still in Edinburgh in 1911 - this time listed (at least on >> Scotlands People anyway) as Harry J. >> >> Hope all this helps! >> Regards >> Lara >> >> On 21/06/2012 20:25, Margaret Smith wrote: >>> Harry James HARVEY born 1874 in Alciston, Sussex, son of >> James and Harriet HARVEY (nee WELLER). He's with his >> parents in the 1881 census in the Barley Mow Inn in Alciston, >> and then he's a Plumber's Labourer in Eastbourne in the 1891 >> census. Then he disappears, I can't find him in later >> censuses nor a marriage or death registration, nor an >> immigration. Can anyone help? >>> >>> Thanks, Margaret Smith >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >