Hello Pat, Cannot help with the book, but Wivelsfield yes. The Wivelsfield History Study Group published a book in 1994 entitled "Wivelsfield - The History of a Wealden Parish" (ISBN 0 9524577 0 9) and it contains in chapter 13 sub vii some references about the Second World War. Dad's Army has an episode where Mr. Godfrey's cottage was going to be moved for a runway, in this book on page 240 there is a reference to the Plough Inn, Plumpton that was pulled down and rebuilt to make room for a flight-path for Spitfires. Although a comedy Dad's Army touches a lot on reality of the time. Hope this helps, Brian Attree SFHG No. 3429 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:21:53 +0100 > Subject: [SFHG] Book. > > Hello, can anyone help me please to locate a book called Memories of a 1920s Childhood by Eve Herbert. I believe it is about life in Wivelsfield. > > Also does anyone know if there has been anything written about life in this village during the war years, the second world war I mean. > > I look forward to hearing from anyone who can help with these requests. > > Kind regards, Pat Millard. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, can anyone help me please to locate a book called Memories of a 1920s Childhood by Eve Herbert. I believe it is about life in Wivelsfield. Also does anyone know if there has been anything written about life in this village during the war years, the second world war I mean. I look forward to hearing from anyone who can help with these requests. Kind regards, Pat Millard.

For anyone's interest From: Leigh Lawson Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Sussex Map Sale 15 & 16 Sept Hello Judy, Please would you be able to forward details of the forthcoming sale of Sussex maps at West Sussex Record Office, to all SFHG members? The sale organised by West Sussex Archives Society, is on Saturday 15th and Sunday 16th September from 9.30 - 4.30. The Record Office is in Orchard Street, Chichester (weekend parking in Council car park behind the record office) Some of the maps are copies of various historical maps of Sussex from the '250 Years of Map Making' series at £1 each. Others are large scale OS maps - dating from the 1930s-1970s - of West Sussex and the Brighton area, at only 30 pence each. All are on good quality paper, unfolded and suitable for framing. Thanks very much, Leigh WEST SUSSEX ARCHIVES SOCIETY (THE FRIENDS OF WEST SUSSEX RECORD OFFICE) Saturday and Sunday 15th and 16th September 9:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. MAP SALE To be held at West Sussex Record Office A selection of reproduction historic maps of Sussex from the '250 Years of Map Making' series. £1 each. 1930s-1970s O.S. maps of West Sussex and Brighton areas. 30p each. All the maps, which are surplus stock, are unfolded and suitable for framing. For further information ring 01243 753602 Leigh Lawson Kinship Genealogical Research www.petworthemigrations.com

Pat, The very best history written I have seen is "Wivelsfield; The History of a Wealden Parish" by Heather Warne.  It may not have as much information you might want on WWII time period...but worth having a look at at your local library to see if it will work for your needs. Donna Casey Michigan, USA   The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: SFHG <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 12:21 PM Subject: [SFHG] Book. Hello, can anyone help me please to locate a book called Memories of a 1920s Childhood by Eve Herbert.  I believe it is about life in Wivelsfield. Also does anyone know if there has been anything written about life in this village during the war years, the second world war I mean. I look forward to hearing from anyone who can help with these requests. Kind regards, Pat Millard. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for response - problem solved (itself). Cheers Tony 9967 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tony Holkham <[email protected]> Date: 26 August 2012 02:06 Subject: Twitter - can anyone help? To: SFHG-list <[email protected]> Hello Listers, I was hoping to use Twitter to link up with people researching similar family history areas to me, so I signed up today. This is a bit off-topic, but it is quiet, so I wondered if some kind soul could help with a problem - twitter is extremely slow (several minutes to load a page), and is coming up text-only, no graphics. I'm using Mac OSX 10.5.8 and Safari 5.0.6 (my only browser). Can anyone help? Twitter haven't been able to and I've searched the web. Maybe my software's too old? Not a good start to my first foray into social networking... And finally, does anyone know of any good family history groups on Twitter that would be worth following? Best wishes, Tony 9967 -- _________________ Tony Holkham * Writer * *www.tonyholkham.co.uk*

Is /was there a term to describe a parent that loses a child through death. as you call an adult who loses a partner a widow/er or a child that loses its' parents an orphan. Regards Joe Austen 9934 in OZ The question was raised to me through a distant relative on Facebook

Family Tree Maker 2 is now available for Macs. John On 26 Aug 2012, at 09:18, Heather Brooks <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, for years I have used Family Tree Maker 2008 to store my information. I like a simple program to use, nothing fancy! > I have recently brought a Mac OSX, version 10.7.4 > Can anyone recommend a good program. > Regards Heather > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, for years I have used Family Tree Maker 2008 to store my information. I like a simple program to use, nothing fancy! I have recently brought a Mac OSX, version 10.7.4 Can anyone recommend a good program. Regards Heather

Hello Listers, I was hoping to use Twitter to link up with people researching similar family history areas to me, so I signed up today. This is a bit off-topic, but it is quiet, so I wondered if some kind soul could help with a problem - twitter is extremely slow (several minutes to load a page), and is coming up text-only, no graphics. I'm using Mac OSX 10.5.8 and Safari 5.0.6 (my only browser). Can anyone help? Twitter haven't been able to and I've searched the web. Maybe my software's too old? Not a good start to my first foray into social networking... And finally, does anyone know of any good family history groups on Twitter that would be worth following? Best wishes, Tony 9967

Dear Listers,   I have found the following marriage on the IGI   Sarah Elizabeth Laugham and Charles Weaver, 06 Jun 1773 at St Botolph Aldgate.   I believe this is the second marriage of Sarah Elizabeth Ward, her first husband Stephen Laugham, presumably having died.  Sarah was only 16 at the time of her first marriage in 1763, so she would have been 26 in 1773.  Does anyone out there have access to an image of the original parish record?  I would like to know if there is any other information recorded, eg witness names, that would confirm that I have the correct person.  Sarah's father was Jasper Ward.    If it is correct, the marriage would be a "Sussex Stray" as Sarah lived in Sussex.   Many Thanks   Neal 9743

Neal, I have sent you an image of the original book with what I believe to be the correct entry.  Let me know if this is what you were looking for. Donna Casey Michigan, USA   The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. ________________________________ From: Neal Ward <[email protected]> To: sfhg mailing list <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 1:22 PM Subject: [SFHG] London Marriage Dear Listers,   I have found the following marriage on the IGI   Sarah Elizabeth Laugham and Charles Weaver, 06 Jun 1773 at St Botolph Aldgate.   I believe this is the second marriage of Sarah Elizabeth Ward, her first husband Stephen Laugham, presumably having died.  Sarah was only 16 at the time of her first marriage in 1763, so she would have been 26 in 1773.  Does anyone out there have access to an image of the original parish record?  I would like to know if there is any other information recorded, eg witness names, that would confirm that I have the correct person.  Sarah's father was Jasper Ward.    If it is correct, the marriage would be a "Sussex Stray" as Sarah lived in Sussex.   Many Thanks   Neal 9743 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John, You are correct.  There is little likelihood of me finding a will.  Only the Admin. Thanks for your thoughts, Donna   The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. ________________________________ From: John Moore <[email protected]> To: Donna Casey <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [SFHG] The Admin: Tillinghurst Hi Donna, It appears that you are still expecting to find a will, but a grant of administration was made when there was *no* will.  Occasionally you will find an Admon with will.  I have found instances of this in my HUGGETT research and they have been in cases where a grant of probate has been made years earlier but the estate has been left unadministered.  If there had been a will for Stephen TILLINGHAST it would have been among the TNA online wills. Regards, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Casey" <[email protected]> To: "SFHG SxFamHXGrp" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:59 AM Subject: [SFHG] The Admin: Tillinghurst I have learned that I may find the admin of the will for Stephen Tillinghurst might not be digitalised yet, but that I may find a copy of the original at TNA. I am in the process of contacting them and will report the outcome. Thank you all for your suggestions and help. Donna The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails.

Hi Donna, The National Archives Documents Online site only gives access to Wills granted in the PCC whereas it looks as if your reference is to an Administration. Copies of Grants of Administration are not currently available via the website and you will probably have to order directly from the National Archives. Many administrations were granted where the deceased had not actually left a Will - so you may be out of luck there as the record may only give pretty basic information about the deceased and whoever administration was granted to. Regards Lara On 22/08/2012 15:56, Donna Casey wrote: > I found the UK Extracted Probate Record of a Stephen Tillinghurst from St. Saviour Southwark, Surrey 1655 48. It is listed in the Index to Acts of Administration in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury 1655-1660 (Acts of Admin). England Canterbury-Admin in the PCC, 1655-1660 (R-Z). > > However, when I put this name into the Access to Archives (The National Archives web site) searchbox for wills, I get no results. > > Why does this happen? How can I get a copy of this record/will? > > > Donna > > The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Donna, I think you may find that the details of the will, will probably be at the London Metropolitan Archives. Whilst Southwark was in Surrey when the will was made, I believe that all records relating to the old Surrey area were transferred from Woking (Surrey Archives) to the LMA after the boundary changes which made parts of Surrey part of Greater London. This might not make sense, but for those of us who live/lived in Surrey/Greater London, it will do. May I suggest you ping an e-mail to Surrey Archives & LMA to find out where the will is available. Cheers, Brian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Donna Casey Sent: 22 August 2012 15:57 To: SFHG SxFamHXGrp Subject: [SFHG] PCC Will Indexed but not found?: How do I get a copy? Tillinghurst I found the UK Extracted Probate Record of a Stephen Tillinghurst from St. Saviour Southwark, Surrey 1655 48.  It is listed in the Index to Acts of Administration in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury 1655-1660 (Acts of Admin).  England Canterbury-Admin in the PCC, 1655-1660 (R-Z).   However, when I put this name into the Access to Archives (The National Archives web site) searchbox for wills, I get no results.   Why does this happen?  How can I get a copy of this record/will? Donna   The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5215 - Release Date: 08/21/12 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5215 - Release Date: 08/21/12

I have learned that I may find the admin of the will for Stephen Tillinghurst might not be digitalised yet, but that I may find a copy of the original at TNA.  I am in the process of contacting them and will report the outcome. Thank you all for your suggestions and help.  Donna The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails.

Donna,   Have you tried every possible alternative spelling or mis-spelling?  I knew that there was a will for Jasper Ward, but it was indexed in the wills under Dasper Ward!                   Neal ________________________________ From: Donna Casey <[email protected]> To: SFHG SxFamHXGrp <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2012, 15:56 Subject: [SFHG] PCC Will Indexed but not found?: How do I get a copy? Tillinghurst I found the UK Extracted Probate Record of a Stephen Tillinghurst from St. Saviour Southwark, Surrey 1655 48.  It is listed in the Index to Acts of Administration in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury 1655-1660 (Acts of Admin).  England Canterbury-Admin in the PCC, 1655-1660 (R-Z).   However, when I put this name into the Access to Archives (The National Archives web site) searchbox for wills, I get no results.   Why does this happen?  How can I get a copy of this record/will? Donna   The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found the UK Extracted Probate Record of a Stephen Tillinghurst from St. Saviour Southwark, Surrey 1655 48.  It is listed in the Index to Acts of Administration in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury 1655-1660 (Acts of Admin).  England Canterbury-Admin in the PCC, 1655-1660 (R-Z).   However, when I put this name into the Access to Archives (The National Archives web site) searchbox for wills, I get no results.   Why does this happen?  How can I get a copy of this record/will? Donna   The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails.

Here's an email exchange I had with West Sussex Record Office in 2001 about a discrepancy I had encountered and their very helpful response. This tale suggests various ways discrepancies can happen and possible solutions. Please note that the email addresses used then are no longer in use. I have found other discrepancies which I'll hopefully get time to mention later. ****************************** Dear Ms Cheesman Thank you for your e-mail regarding the Albourne Parish Register Microfiche for the General Register dated 1732 - 1812. I have checked the actual Register of which this microfiche is a copy (Par 226/1/1/2) and the microfiche does appear to be defective. The original Register includes marriages 1733 - 1751 and burials 1733 - 1751 which do not appear to have been included on the microfilm. This was probably because there are a lot of empty folios in the middle of the Register between folio 25 (1812 baptisms) and folios 60 - 62 (marriages 1733 - 1751). We will get the Register re-filmed so that a new microfiche can be produced containing all the entries in the Register. As far as the later Marriage Register is concerned, however, it is missing. It has never been deposited at the Record Office and has never been found. The Record Office does have the Bishops Transcripts for the whole of Sussex (copies of the Parish Registers which were sent each year to the Bishop) and I have checked the returns for Albourne for the year 1768. This records the marriage as follows: "James Banks of Keymer and Anne Gillam of this parish were married 17 November 1768". The Albourne Bishops Transcripts are available on microfilm (MF 595) and the Record Office is happy to provide photocopies (£3.00 minimum charge for a postal order). Yours sincerely Richard Childs County Archivist West Sussex Record Office County Hall Chichester West Sussex PO19 1RN "Julie Cheesman" <[email protected]> on 05/10/2001 09:18:10 AM wrote: To: <[email protected]> Subject: Albourne parish register fiche FJL/AV7M I recently attempted to confirm a marriage which supposedly took place at Albourne in 1768 (James Banks & Anne Gillam) by using the copy of the Albourne parish register fiche held at the Sussex Family History Group's library at Lewes. I believe the copies that they hold are exactly the same as those held at the West Sussex Record Office. The fiche for the relevant period is described as 1732-1812 General Register (1 fiche) but it only contains Baptisms and Burials. There are no marriages on the fiche, this was also checked by two other SFHG officials, Phil Lucas and Mick Henry. There is no separate fiche listed for marriages at Albourne for these dates, unlike with some other parishes who were using a book containing the printed forms at that time. The IGI entry for the marriage concerned appears to be from a private submission, so perhaps the marriage entries were never filmed by LDS. I don't have easy access to Chichester so can you please tell me if the Albourne parish register with marriages for 1732-1812 exists? Thank you Julie Cheesman, SFHG Internet Mailing List Administrator ********************************

Hi Donna, I would agree that the word is 'troompeter'. I would have thought that this is exactly what it sounds like..........a trumpeter. In an earlier baptism (1600 for Agnes Underhill at the same church) it is spelt 'trumpetter' The clincher would seem to be the baptism for another son Alphonso 19 Jul 1608 Thomas' occupation is 'the Kings Trumpetor'. Interesting! Regards, Lara On 21/08/2012 15:07, Donna Casey wrote: > I have found an (original image) entry of a christening (Ancestry.com London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812) from 3 December 1601, Southwark, St. Saviour, Denmark Park, London. The handwriting is rather readable, compared to many others I have seen. However, I cannot understand or decipher the occupation. Can anyone help? > > It reads as follows: > > Thomas Underhill s. of Thomas a troompetor or broompetor. > > First, does this word/occupation mean anything to anyone? > Next, I can send the document image off-line to anyone who might like to try deciphering for me. > > Donna > Michigan, USA > > The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it will change; the realist adjusts the sails. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks Graham, unfortunately the url takes me to an error page, but thanks for trying. Regards Joe Austen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Noyce" <[email protected]> To: "Joe Austen" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 4:30 AM Subject: RE: [SFHG] the IGI not supported by PRs > Hi Joe, > > It would appear that the IGI data came from BTs not PRs. > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fcatalog-se > arch-api%3A8080%2Fwww-catalogapi-webservice%2Fitem%2F64075 > > see the above for the source. > > Graham > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On > Behalf > Of Joe Austen > Sent: 20 August 2012 17:32 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SFHG] the IGI not supported by PRs > > The man who seems to be the most likely candidate to be my Austen 5x great > grandfather was Richard Austen, who according to the IGI was christened on > the 9th of December 1745(coincidentally exactly 200 years before my birth) > in Climping. > A few years ago I visited the SFHG Library in Lewes and checked the PRs > for > Climping and there were no baptisms in Climping in 1745. any clues. > Regards > Joe Austen 9934 in oz > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5210 - Release Date: 08/19/12 > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5210 - Release Date: 08/19/12 >