I recall that "Mr John Noyce of The George" took along a succession of children for baptism over the years and the surname was spelled in six different ways in just that one family! An Oxford ear hearing a Hampshire brogue. Graham Noyce St Ives Hunts Mem No 9038 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Tony Albery Sent: 23 October 2012 09:31 To: 'Gerald Peskett'; [email protected] Subject: Re: [SFHG] Peskett to Pescod Hi Gerald I suspect that the spelling of Peskett has more to do with the preference of the minister, census enumerator or registrar than anything else. There seems to be a historical trend moving from Peascod and its variants to Peskett/Pescott. In my own Pescott line, even into the late 19th C, I find variations in spelling between closely related Pesketts. In Windsor there is a Peascod Street but the local pronunciation is Peskett. My Albery family came from Liss, in Hampshire as Alberry, to Petersfield, where there was already an Albery family, and became Albery by precedent as far as I can see. Don't get me started on my Leadbetter ancestors. I think I have about 20 spelling variations there. L*b*t*r sums it up. Whose right? They all are! Tony Albery 12351 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gerald Peskett Sent: 22 October 2012 22:18 To: [email protected] Subject: [SFHG] Peskett to Pescod Hi, I have been researching the Peskett surname for many years, but still struggle to make the connection from the present Peskett name to the earlier Pescod variations. The period where the surname seems to have changed was in the mid to late 1700's, but unfortunately, this is also the time period when parish registers tend to be rather vague. I have many thousands of individuals in my database from the 1800's onwards, but lack the ability to connect them earlier. If they weren't on the early censuses that's where I'm running into problems. The Pescod surname along with it's variations (Pescud, Pescott, Peskett and others) seems to stem from the Sussex, Hampshire and Surrey areas, although the Pescod name also has lines in the north. The problem is, there are so many Pescod families in the Sussex area, and unless there is a very uncommon forename, then it's very difficult to identify the correct family. There are so many Pescod families in such close proximity to each other it hard to tie down the right one. I look at the Sussex map and there are Pescod families from probably 75% of the parishes. There are some parishes that I've been able to make the conversion over from Pescod to Peskett, Billingshurst and Pulborough are a couple of them. But alas there are hundreds more unconnected. How do you definitively make the connection? My own Peskett line I've traced back to Midhurst in the mid 1700's to a Richard Pescod, unfortunately from there I run into trouble. There are several Richard Pescod's all from roughly the same area born around the same time. Which one's which? I've been told my Richard Pescod was from Lodsworth, but it seems that if I look at online trees it seems that a lot of people have taken that Richard Pescod as theirs. Whose right? I would appreciate any advice or would love to correspond with anyone that's make the connection from Pescod to Peskett or has Pesketts in their tree. I'm restricted to online information as the distance across the pond to England makes a quick visit to the records office, impossible. Thanks in advance. Gerald Peskett Ontario, Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5347 - Release Date: 10/22/12 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5347 - Release Date: 10/22/12 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2741 / Virus Database: 2616/5847 - Release Date: 10/22/12

Hi Gerald I suspect that the spelling of Peskett has more to do with the preference of the minister, census enumerator or registrar than anything else. There seems to be a historical trend moving from Peascod and its variants to Peskett/Pescott. In my own Pescott line, even into the late 19th C, I find variations in spelling between closely related Pesketts. In Windsor there is a Peascod Street but the local pronunciation is Peskett. My Albery family came from Liss, in Hampshire as Alberry, to Petersfield, where there was already an Albery family, and became Albery by precedent as far as I can see. Don't get me started on my Leadbetter ancestors. I think I have about 20 spelling variations there. L*b*t*r sums it up. Whose right? They all are! Tony Albery 12351 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gerald Peskett Sent: 22 October 2012 22:18 To: [email protected] Subject: [SFHG] Peskett to Pescod Hi, I have been researching the Peskett surname for many years, but still struggle to make the connection from the present Peskett name to the earlier Pescod variations.  The period where the surname seems to have changed was in the mid to late 1700's, but unfortunately, this is also the time period when parish registers tend to be rather vague.  I have many thousands of individuals in my database from the 1800's onwards, but lack the ability to connect them earlier.  If they weren't on the early censuses that's where I'm running into problems.  The Pescod surname along with it's variations (Pescud, Pescott, Peskett and others) seems to stem from the Sussex, Hampshire and Surrey areas, although the Pescod name also has lines in the north. The problem is, there are so many Pescod families in the Sussex area, and unless there is a very uncommon forename, then it's very difficult to identify the correct family.  There are so many Pescod families in such close proximity to each other it hard to tie down the right one.  I look at the Sussex map and there are Pescod families from probably 75% of the parishes.  There are some parishes that I've been able to make the conversion over from Pescod to Peskett, Billingshurst and Pulborough are a couple of them.  But alas there are hundreds more unconnected.  How do you definitively make the connection?  My own Peskett line I've traced back to Midhurst in the mid 1700's to a Richard Pescod,  unfortunately from there I run into trouble.  There are several Richard Pescod's all from roughly the same area born around the same time.  Which one's which?  I've been told my Richard Pescod was from Lodsworth, but it seems that if I look at online trees it seems that a lot of people have taken that Richard Pescod as theirs.  Whose right? I would appreciate any advice or would love to correspond with anyone that's make the connection from Pescod to Peskett or has Pesketts in their tree.  I'm restricted to online information as the distance across the pond to England makes a quick visit to the records office, impossible. Thanks in advance. Gerald Peskett Ontario, Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5347 - Release Date: 10/22/12 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5347 - Release Date: 10/22/12

Hi, I have been researching the Peskett surname for many years, but still struggle to make the connection from the present Peskett name to the earlier Pescod variations.  The period where the surname seems to have changed was in the mid to late 1700's, but unfortunately, this is also the time period when parish registers tend to be rather vague.  I have many thousands of individuals in my database from the 1800's onwards, but lack the ability to connect them earlier.  If they weren't on the early censuses that's where I'm running into problems.  The Pescod surname along with it's variations (Pescud, Pescott, Peskett and others) seems to stem from the Sussex, Hampshire and Surrey areas, although the Pescod name also has lines in the north. The problem is, there are so many Pescod families in the Sussex area, and unless there is a very uncommon forename, then it's very difficult to identify the correct family.  There are so many Pescod families in such close proximity to each other it hard to tie down the right one.  I look at the Sussex map and there are Pescod families from probably 75% of the parishes.  There are some parishes that I've been able to make the conversion over from Pescod to Peskett, Billingshurst and Pulborough are a couple of them.  But alas there are hundreds more unconnected.  How do you definitively make the connection?  My own Peskett line I've traced back to Midhurst in the mid 1700's to a Richard Pescod,  unfortunately from there I run into trouble.  There are several Richard Pescod's all from roughly the same area born around the same time.  Which one's which?  I've been told my Richard Pescod was from Lodsworth, but it seems that if I look at online trees it seems that a lot of people have taken that Richard Pescod as theirs.  Whose right? I would appreciate any advice or would love to correspond with anyone that's make the connection from Pescod to Peskett or has Pesketts in their tree.  I'm restricted to online information as the distance across the pond to England makes a quick visit to the records office, impossible. Thanks in advance. Gerald Peskett Ontario, Canada

Just a reminder that Storrington & District Museum will be holding their annual Family History Day on Sunday 21 October from 10am to 4pm. Admission is £2 and refreshments are available. More information about the event is available on their web site at http://storringtonmuseum.org/famhist.html and location details at http://storringtonmuseum.org/findus.html . The SFHG Events Team will be there, so why not come along and say 'hello'? If you need a bit of help with your research, why not bring the details along with you and see if we can help? Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex SFHG Member No: 3323

Hello again, forget my last. I thought I would have one last try before going to bed and found it. It has only taken about 4 hours of searching! John R

Can anyone help me. I am tearing my hair out trying to find North End Farm, Findon, Sussexin the censuses. I have the footings of the farmhouse in the back garden of my cottage at North End, Findon, and am trying to write a history of North End for the village Web site. I have found North End Farm in the censuses in Find My Past before but failed to record the details, intending to come back to them later ! Now, try as I might, I just cannot find the farm. I know the farm was in existence in the 1750s and was still there in 1911. Any help as to how I can find this farm would be most appreciated. Thanks, John R.

Dear All Does anyone have a copy of The British Police Forces and Chief Officers 1829-2012 book? Before I try to view/obtain a copy I would like to know if my Step Grandfather is in it. If anyone can help me I would be extremely grateful. Many thanks Jane Shergold

Hello Ruth I thought of Uckfield workhouse, 2 Cottingtons there but no James. Came across http://www.theweald.org/home.asp which contains a lot of genealogical data for the area but nothing specifically helpful as far as I can see. Regards Tony Albery 12351 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ruth Wright Sent: 18 October 2012 14:29 To: SFHG Subject: [SFHG] James COTTINGHAM I've been trying to find James COTTINGHAM in the 1841 census. He was born in 1771 in Buxted and died in 1850. I can find his wife Martha & daughter-in-law Hannah (and her family) in Hadlow Down in 1841 but there's no sign of James or his son James jr. James jr. and wife Hannah (with his mother Martha a widow) are still in Hadlow Down in 1851. I've tried wildcard searches but no luck. Any thoughts on how to find him? Thanks,\Ruth, Ontario,Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5338 - Release Date: 10/17/12

I've been trying to find James COTTINGHAM in the 1841 census. He was born in 1771 in Buxted and died in 1850. I can find his wife Martha & daughter-in-law Hannah (and her family) in Hadlow Down in 1841 but there's no sign of James or his son James jr. James jr. and wife Hannah (with his mother Martha a widow) are still in Hadlow Down in 1851. I've tried wildcard searches but no luck. Any thoughts on how to find him? Thanks,\Ruth, Ontario,Canada

Hi, many thanks to all in looking for Edith Diplock in the 1891/101 and 1911 census. I think Nivard has found her in 1891 with her parents James and Annie DIXCOCK! A puzzle is that she mentions in her will in 1935 her sister Mrs Steele, I have found a Laura L. Diplock marriage to a James Steele in 1916 but cannot find her on any censuses before this. Edith Diplock married George Feichtlbauer Sept Qtr 1913 at Kensington District before I pay for a marriage certificate to defiantly check who her fathers name was, is they're an image of this marriage on the web somewhere? Regards Heather Brooks

Does anyone know anything about the 'rules' / likely circumstances for being admitted to the Brighton Workhouse in the early 20th century? In 1911, my g-grandfather was an inmate of the Brighton Workhouse 250 Elm Grove Brighton and he died at the Brighton Workhouse Infirmary in 1912. At the same time, his wife (my g-g-mother) and two of their adult children, both in full time employment, were still living in the family home (the house the family had lived in for over 30 years). My g-grandmother continued to live there for a further three years after my g-grandfather's death - until her own death in 1915. But there is a family rumour that my g-grandfather was a drinker and a gambler and that the couple 'separated' in the final decade of their marriage (i.e. my g-grandmother threw him out). I am trying to ascertain the truth of this. I am wondering on what conditions my g-g-father might have been admitted to the Brighton Workhouse in (or before?) 1911 despite the fact that he had a home and family members in work and therefore able to support him? Wouldn't the family have been expected (socially and legally) to support him? The authorities knew he was married because he stated this on the 1911 census. Or would the Workhouse have taken him in anyway, simply on request - because he was unable to hold down a job and had nowhere else to live? And how much social stigma might have been associated with the Workhouse at that time? Would he have wanted to go there? Or was he in such a bad way that he had no other option? I'd like to find out the general 'grounds for admission' to the Brighton Workhouse. Of course, I would also like to find my g-g-father's individual record if possible, but unfortunately it would need to be on line (to allow me to access it from where I live !!) and I don't expect to be that lucky. Thank you, Cordelia 14526

Hi Heather, Do you mean Edith May Diplock birth registered Sep qtr 1882? If so:1911 census has her as single and ageneral servant domestic in Croydon at Black House, 41 Grant Road, Croydon1901 census has her as daughter of Joseph Diplock and Emily at Rodmell Nr Lewes in the Newhaven registration district1891 have not the subscription level!! hope this helpsRegards Brian AttreeSFHG No. 3249Mechelen, Belgium www.attreefamilyhistory.org > From: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:33:41 +0100 > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [SFHG] Edith Diplock > > Hi, I would appreciate is someone could find Edith Diplock on the 1891/1901/1911 census, she was born circa 1882 in Horsham, West Sussex. Regards Heather > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I would appreciate is someone could find Edith Diplock on the 1891/1901/1911 census, she was born circa 1882 in Horsham, West Sussex. Regards Heather

Hi, many thanks to everybody who sent information to me, it was very much appreciated. Regards Heather

Hi Michael, Like the barracks I have connections to Brighton Workhouse, as well. First, my gg gf Walter Tribe (+1819 to 1876). His wife was found drowned in 1860 and he was committed to Sussex Lunatic Asylum in 1862, recovering in 1863. He was later re-admitted in 1864 and his usual address was put down as Brighton Workhouse. Second, my gg gm Susan[na] Boxall (1811- 1887) (whose daughter married the son of Walter in 1880) died in the Workhouse in 1887 with "lupies of the face". I can get the book from the library, but is there any records of these individuals, still existing? I have a "stone wall" with Susanna's Maiden name, and hope that it might be recorded at the Brighton WH? Jeff TRIBE ONS SFHG In a message dated 16/10/2012 14:42:11 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Cordelia, You will find all you need to know by refering to: James Gardner, "A History of the Brighton Workhouses", published 2012, £19.95. You can obtain a copy from the author, 5 East Way, Lewes, East Sussex BN7 1NG or email the author at www.jamesgardnerauthor.com. The volume is very heavy so I expect postage would be quite expensive. I had the pleasure of working with James and was sent a complimentary copy! Michael Burchall > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:52:29 +1100 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SFHG] Brighton Workhouse > > Does anyone know anything about the 'rules' / likely circumstances for > being admitted to the Brighton Workhouse in the early 20th century? > > In 1911, my g-grandfather was an inmate of the Brighton Workhouse 250 > Elm Grove Brighton and he died at the Brighton Workhouse Infirmary in > 1912. > > At the same time, his wife (my g-g-mother) and two of their adult > children, both in full time employment, were still living in the > family home (the house the family had lived in for over 30 years). My > g-grandmother continued to live there for a further three years after > my g-grandfather's death - until her own death in 1915. > > But there is a family rumour that my g-grandfather was a drinker and a > gambler and that the couple 'separated' in the final decade of their > marriage (i.e. my g-grandmother threw him out). I am trying to > ascertain the truth of this. > > I am wondering on what conditions my g-g-father might have been > admitted to the Brighton Workhouse in (or before?) 1911 despite the > fact that he had a home and family members in work and therefore able > to support him? Wouldn't the family have been expected (socially and > legally) to support him? The authorities knew he was married because > he stated this on the 1911 census. > > Or would the Workhouse have taken him in anyway, simply on request - > because he was unable to hold down a job and had nowhere else to live? > > And how much social stigma might have been associated with the > Workhouse at that time? Would he have wanted to go there? Or was he > in such a bad way that he had no other option? > > I'd like to find out the general 'grounds for admission' to the > Brighton Workhouse. Of course, I would also like to find my > g-g-father's individual record if possible, but unfortunately it would > need to be on line (to allow me to access it from where I live !!) and > I don't expect to be that lucky. > > Thank you, > > Cordelia > 14526 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Cordelia, You will find all you need to know by refering to: James Gardner, "A History of the Brighton Workhouses", published 2012, £19.95. You can obtain a copy from the author, 5 East Way, Lewes, East Sussex BN7 1NG or email the author at www.jamesgardnerauthor.com. The volume is very heavy so I expect postage would be quite expensive. I had the pleasure of working with James and was sent a complimentary copy! Michael Burchall > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:52:29 +1100 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SFHG] Brighton Workhouse > > Does anyone know anything about the 'rules' / likely circumstances for > being admitted to the Brighton Workhouse in the early 20th century? > > In 1911, my g-grandfather was an inmate of the Brighton Workhouse 250 > Elm Grove Brighton and he died at the Brighton Workhouse Infirmary in > 1912. > > At the same time, his wife (my g-g-mother) and two of their adult > children, both in full time employment, were still living in the > family home (the house the family had lived in for over 30 years). My > g-grandmother continued to live there for a further three years after > my g-grandfather's death - until her own death in 1915. > > But there is a family rumour that my g-grandfather was a drinker and a > gambler and that the couple 'separated' in the final decade of their > marriage (i.e. my g-grandmother threw him out). I am trying to > ascertain the truth of this. > > I am wondering on what conditions my g-g-father might have been > admitted to the Brighton Workhouse in (or before?) 1911 despite the > fact that he had a home and family members in work and therefore able > to support him? Wouldn't the family have been expected (socially and > legally) to support him? The authorities knew he was married because > he stated this on the 1911 census. > > Or would the Workhouse have taken him in anyway, simply on request - > because he was unable to hold down a job and had nowhere else to live? > > And how much social stigma might have been associated with the > Workhouse at that time? Would he have wanted to go there? Or was he > in such a bad way that he had no other option? > > I'd like to find out the general 'grounds for admission' to the > Brighton Workhouse. Of course, I would also like to find my > g-g-father's individual record if possible, but unfortunately it would > need to be on line (to allow me to access it from where I live !!) and > I don't expect to be that lucky. > > Thank you, > > Cordelia > 14526 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The postcode for the area where The Luth joins Petworth Road appears to be RH14 0BL. You can search using this postcode on www.old-maps.co.uk to see 19th century OS maps of the area. You can also search www.streetmap.co.ukfor the modern OS map using that postcode. On 15 October 2012 19:56, <[email protected]> wrote: > As part of my One name Study into the Tribe surname, I came across a > number of Tribe families living in the Barracks at Wisborough Green. If > anybody > does know anything about the "barracks", I would be interested, too. > > Regards from East Sussex. > > Jeff > > Tribe ONS SFHG > > Ps - I might even nip over there myself on the way to Thakeham. > > In a message dated 15/10/2012 14:52:38 GMT Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > After discovering the location of the cottages in which my ancestor lived > in 1842 - apparently a block of 4 at the time - I then compared the tithe > map of 1842 to my OS Explorer Series map (2 1/2 inch to the mile) and > wanted > to check if the cottages are still there. > > Unfortunately time and the weather prevented another trip into West Sx to > check it out for myself. So, from my computer here in Ottawa, yesterday I > used Google's Streetview to tour along the Petworth Road in the vicinity > (can't remember now how I got there!). Unfortunately the trees along the > road > obscure a certain amount but there are tantalizing views of a 2-storey > building set back from the road which may or may not be the actual block of > cottages. It looks relatively modern but could, of course, have been > remodelled > & refaced over the years. > > The 1841 Census for Wisborough Green has my ancestor & his family living > with 4 other families at 'Barracks' (the handwritten form may say > 'Barrecks') in Wisborough Green, so I am assuming that this was the name > of the > building identified in the 1842 tithe apportionment as the 4 cottages > where my > ancestor is named as 'co-occupier' (the other co-occupiers are not named). > > (I have not been successful doing an address search for 'Barracks' in > Wisborough Green in subsequent censuses - just could not get FindMyPast or > FamilySearch to give me the info, if indeed, Barracks was listed a such in > later censuses.) > > Does anyone know if there is (or was) a building along the Petworth Road > in Wisborough Green called Barracks (or Barrecks)? If so, does anyone know > its history? - and could anyone take a photo for me? (The building is just > east of a side road called The Luth.) > > Thank you in advance for any info you might have on this. > Regards from a wet & windy Ottawa > Christine Jackson SFHG 397 > > P.S. I note from the Internet that there is an informal Wisborough Green > History Group, and a phone number is offered as a contact, so I will > follow > up with the chairman if SFHG members are not able to help on this. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the > body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks, Victor! Am writing this from Library - my computer just crashed & I'm without it for a few days - yikes! Christine ________________________________ From: Victor Deacon <[email protected]> To: Christine Jackson <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 7:53:30 AM Subject: Re: [SFHG] Wis Green/ Barracks Hi Christine, the OPC has the name transcribed as “Barrecks” and they have the following area guide that may help pin down the location. Vic Sub. District: Billingshurst. Number: 11. Code: HO 107/1091/9. Description: All that part of the Parish of Wisborough Green which lies north of the Road leadinf from Idehurst to Wisborough Green Village and West of the road from thence by Round Street Common. Fletchfold and Hindfoldwood Common to plastow Gate bounded by Kirdford. Enumerator: George Clayton. Sub. District: Billingshurst. Registration district: Petworth. Property details: Address: Barrecks.

HI, George Feichtlbauer born c1872 in Austria came to England. George married an Alice, had son George and three daughters. He married an Edith Diplock in 1913 Kensington district while still married to Alice, if he married her as I cannot find a marriage. Can anybody find this man in the 1901 and 1911 census please? Regards Heather

Hi again Heather, The 1901 census has the family at Rg13/136/12/16, Brankholme Place, St. Pancras indexed on Ancestry as “Decaner” Regards, vic