The last census I sent didn't work properly. I hope this works. Abram Severs Cumberland Co.,(newton) PA ages     under5   5-10   10-15   15-20   20-30    30-40   40-50 Males        1        2         0        0          1           0          1 females      0        1         0        1          1           0          0

I have done some more digging in my files and have found the following. War of 1812 index: Abraham Severs 5 reg. (Fenton) Pennsylvainia Militia Private James Severs 57 reg. VA Militia Lieut. Col. Mason " " Minor Private originally filed under James Sevars? Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 I have a record of the will of Michael Severs, Newton. March 22, 1825. Wife Mary. Sons Abraham, John and George. Plantation joining Samuel Caldwwell and Joseph Goard. Four daus, Elizabeth, Sally, Leah and Rachel. Two youngest sons Jacob and David. Where John Ross now resides. Exs.: Four sons Abraham, John, George and Jacob Severs. wit.:William Dagarman, Henry Buchman, Nicholas Sheetz I.401-402 I don't know who this family is, but the names seem to match. And in my desparate attempt to find James Severs in the 1840 census, I found this entry. Abram Severs Cumberland Co.,(newton) PA ages under5 5-10 10-15 15-20 20-30 30-40 40-50 Males 1 2 0 0 1 0 1 females 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 Does anyone know if these people tie into the VA/NC/TN Severs? How old was Frederick Severt when he died? I found in the Ashe Co., NC Will index a will for Frederick Severt dated 1875. Kathy Pugh

what is the [possibility) that George was son of Wm Severs and Catherine Peck of Anderson/Knox(before l802) Counties TN. Their children were born l795 to l809 and possibly a little later. How does Abraham fit with these? Charl;es Severs

I have found the 1820 census of Jacob Severs in Posey Co., IN. He was listed as being over 45 as was George. Kathy Pugh

Kathy: Thanks for the info on James M and George Severs. I assume L D Severs was Lorenzo Dow Severs and he was son of Jmes M. Did you make any connection to the Jacob Severs/Seaver that was metnioned previously? Charles Severs

if there is no Posey Co IL it must be Posey Co IN that was where both Jacob and James M Severs lived. That would suggest a connection between the two. I would suspect that Posey Co IN is closer to Breckinridge Co KY than to Switzerland Co IN and that would increase the possibility that the Jacob might be Jacob Peck Severs (my ancestor) than to Jacob Seaver of Scott and Botetout Co VA Charles Severs

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lBHBAIB/72.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Nancy, just wondered wether you had any result from Peter you can contact me on woodlands@fsbdial.co.uk all the best Steve

Is it posssible we are talking about Posey Co IL, which is much closer to Kentucky. I believe that James M Severs was located there about l820 or so and not Posey CO IN. Possibly the relative of James M Severs could join in and tell us what they think of this.?? Charles Severs

Neither Jacob Seaver of Botetout Co and Scott Co VA nor Jacob Peck Severs of Kentucky had a wife named Cynthia. Wife of Jacob Peck Severs born l809 was named Mary ELizabeth Hurley and wife of Jacob Sever of Scott Co had a wife named Estger Crowberger/Crowbarger. I know the parents of both of their wives but none named Cynthia. That would suggest, to me, a possible connection to James M Severs of Posey Co IN (or was it IL???) Charles Severs

Kathy, This is very interesting. I have wondered what happened to the George Severs who was buying and selling land and on tax rolls in Sullivan Co, TN in the very late 1700s and early 1800s, and then just disappears. It would make sense that he might be related to Jacob, who shows up at about the same time in land and tax records in Sullivan, TN, Hawkins, TN and Scott, VA (which borders both Sullivan, TN & Hawkins, TN). However, the Jacob with wife Cynthia selling land in Posey Co. must be a different man. The Jacob of Scott Co, VA & Switzerland Co, IN was married to Esther (Hetty) Croberger (her parents are another connection with Hawkins Co, TN). Jacob of Scott, VA/Switzerland, IN is thought to have died in the mid 1820s. Hetty is in the 1830 Switzerland, IN census, as I recall. Note also that Posey Co. and Switzerland Co. IN are at opposite corners of IN. Perhaps the Jacob who was in Posey Co. was one of the other Jacobs from the 1820 list I posted. I need to look at the A.I.S. for 1830 to see which of the Jacobs were still in the same places and which were missing. I am interested in anything you find on George Severs, because I believe the George who was in Sullivan, TN may have been related to William, who died in Wythe Co. VA in 1817 (the line I am researching). I also believe that William was related to Jacob. At any rate, the three of them were in the Hawkins-Sullivan-Scott area at the same time or had connections of one kind or another in those three counties. By the way, I don't know the details, but there was a border dispute between VA and TN along the Sullivan Co, TN/Scott Co, VA border, which may have extended along the Hawkins/Scott border as well. Therefore, some early land records which are today in Sullivan, TN may have been in Scott, VA or vice-versa. It's probably a good idea to search both counties. Pat >I have some info on a Jacob Severs. I don't know if he fits into the Jacob >that is being discused at the moment, but here is what I have. > >Jacob Severs selling land in Sullivan Co., TN 1807. >Jacob Severs and wife Cynthia selling land in Posey Co., IN 1826 to Joseph >Dixon > " " " " " " " > " " " to Polly Cavender > >I believe this is the same person from TN- IN because I have been >researching George Severs and he was also selling land in Sullivan Co., TN >and bought land in Posey Co., IN within a few years of each other. Actually >Posey Co. wasn't a county yet. They would have bought land in either Warrick >or Knox Co. So far I haven't been able to find the IN land purchases. I >hope this helps someone. > >Kathy Pugh > > >==== SEVERS Mailing List ==== >to subscribe or unsubscribe use the address >Severs-L-request@rootsweb.com and put in subscribe or unsubscribe >in the body of the message. Same for Severs-D-request@rootsweb.com > >============================== >Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! >http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 -- Patricia M. Seaver Williamsville, New York

The 2 IN land sales didn't come out correctly. IN 1826 Jacob and Cynthia Severs sold land to 2 different people. The first was Joseph Dixon and the 2nd was Polly Cavender. Kathy Pugh

I have some info on a Jacob Severs. I don't know if he fits into the Jacob that is being discused at the moment, but here is what I have. Jacob Severs selling land in Sullivan Co., TN 1807. Jacob Severs and wife Cynthia selling land in Posey Co., IN 1826 to Joseph Dixon " " " " " " " " " " to Polly Cavender I believe this is the same person from TN- IN because I have been researching George Severs and he was also selling land in Sullivan Co., TN and bought land in Posey Co., IN within a few years of each other. Actually Posey Co. wasn't a county yet. They would have bought land in either Warrick or Knox Co. So far I haven't been able to find the IN land purchases. I hope this helps someone. Kathy Pugh

Today I checked the A.I.S. at our local Family History Center for Jacob Seaver(s) under the following spelling variations: Seav- Seev- Seiv- Siev- Sev- Siv- (all with and without final -s). I found in 1820: Seavers, Jacob Washington Co, OH 223 Newport Twp Seaver, Jacob Scott, VA 199 Seaver, Jacob Adams, PA 059 Berwick Twp Sievert, Jacob Lebanon, PA 145 Jackson Twp Siver, Jacob Herkimer, NY 051 Danube Siver, Jacob Rockingham, VA 163 I believe that the Jacob Seaver of Scott, VA is the one who moved to Switzerland Co, IN. The 1818 date comes from the Jesse Seaver history, and perhaps Jacob went there first to purchase land, but didn't move the family until later. As I recall, the daughter Esther Susannah was born in June of 1820, so perhaps they waited until after she was born before making a trip that had to be difficult. Pat -- Patricia M. Seaver Williamsville, New York

I am basing the 1820 date on the fact that a Jacob Seaver is on the 1820 Scott Co. VA census, along with a family that matches his very nicely. Perhaps he went to IN and bought property there before moving the family???? Pat >In a message dated 8/26/01 2:03:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >SEVERS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > >> Jacob Seaver lived in Scott Co.=20 >> until 1820; his wife's parents lived in Hawkins. >> >> > >I believe Jacob went to SWZ co IN from Scott Co VA in l8l8 and died in >Switzerland Co IN in l825. He is not buried in the Vevay Cemetery as is his >wife, so it is assumed he died young and was buried on the farm and she lived >longer and was buried in the town cemetery. There are good health department >records in Switzerland Co IN in Vevay. >Charles Severs > > >==== SEVERS Mailing List ==== >New members are encouraged to notify their family or any interested >parties so that they may like to sign onto the list as well. >Messages that are too long may bounce, sorry, but it may require >shortening if too long. > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp -- Patricia M. Seaver Williamsville, New York

In a message dated 8/26/01 2:03:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, SEVERS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Jacob Seaver lived in Scott Co.=20 > until 1820; his wife's parents lived in Hawkins. > > I believe Jacob went to SWZ co IN from Scott Co VA in l8l8 and died in Switzerland Co IN in l825. He is not buried in the Vevay Cemetery as is his wife, so it is assumed he died young and was buried on the farm and she lived longer and was buried in the town cemetery. There are good health department records in Switzerland Co IN in Vevay. Charles Severs

Charles, There were definitely two different William Severs/Seaver(s) in VA & East TN.  The William Seavers 1752-1852 married Catherine Peck in VA and died in Nodaway Co, MO.  His DOB and DOD are established from the 1850 Nodaway Co, MO census and by death records in MO.  There is also ample evidence of his residence in Knox and Anderson Co, TN. My husband's grgrgrgrandfather was another William Seavers/Severs/Sivers.  He died in 1817, leaving minor children in Wythe Co, VA.  He had connections in Scott Co. VA and Hawkins Co, TN. His DOD is established by orphans' records in Wythe Co. and other court records there.  His name is established by his second wife's death certificate in Scott Co, VA. My *hypothesis* is that the William who died 1817 was a brother of Jacob, John and Elizabeth.  He *may* have been the William who bonded Elizabeth's marriage to James Lamar.  Jacob Seaver lived in Scott Co. until 1820; his wife's parents lived in Hawkins. I believe that the two Williams were probably connected in some way; perhaps they were uncle/nephew (more hypothesizing). I think that the spelling variations should be ignored, for the most part.  The family of the William who died in 1817 used Seavers, Seevers, Severs, Sivers in earlier years.  It is only in the 20th century that we begin to see any real consistency in the spelling of surnames in general. Pat Seaver whose husband's great-great-grandfather's marriage record says "John Sivers". -- Pat: Thanks for the reply. I am responding to the list as it has been so inactive lately. I have been too lazy to keep it active like I had planned to. The William who was in Botetout Co seems to be related to Henry and Elizabeth Seaver whose children were Jacob, John, and Elizabeth. I suspect there were others . John married and died young and his widow went to Switzerland co IN with Jacob and his wife Ester Crowberger in l8l8 and returned to Botetout Co to marry someone who had followed her to SWZ co IN. Someone submitting to LDS thought Casper Seever was the parent of Henry Seaver. Henry was born about l742 as I recall, maybe l746 or so. The Seaver Genealogy by Jesse M Seaver in l924 said "A man named Seever or similar emigrated in l752 and died on the voyage. His wife and children, Casper, Henry, and John arrived safely. If that is so maybe Henry was this child named Henry. Unfortunately there is a Sarver family in Botetout Co VA and more unfortunately their names were Casper,Henry, and John. There was some sort of Court record in Botetout Co where Wm Seaver was ordered to court with two other men. I forget their names. Possibly knowing more about them would tell more about William (It seemed to be Wm Seaver and not William Severs although it was spelled both ways). I agree that spelling does not mean much before l850. The son John Severs of Nodaway Co MO (son of WM Severs and Catherine Peck) had his name spelled Seavers as late as the l850 census. l850 seems to be about the date where spelling became more accurate. Did your Wm Seaver marry and have children. I assume so. He seemed to be in the l800 census of Botetout Co living with 2 males. Maybe he left for TN after l800. Maybe his wife had died and left him with two male children ?? There was a Deserting Hessian soldier named Johannes Wilhelm Siebert born l751 who deserted July l782 in Savanna GA. I have tried to prove he is the same as William Severs to no avail as there is a family legend about a Hessian soldier and William is the only candidate to this date. You did note that the Lamar family of Botetout Co VA were related to both families. James Lamar l796 married Elizabeth Seaver and William Lamar (his brother) married Mary Polly Severs in l8ll. She was his wife #2 after Roseanne Mills had died in l806. James and Elizabeth went to Nodaway Co MO along with John Severs in l849. (John went to Nodaway in l849 but I have not proved that James and Elizabeth went the same year.) Best Charles Severs

>There is no known connection to the Seaver(s) family of Henry and Elizabeth >Seaver of Botetout Co VA with children Jacob, John, and Elizabeth(who married >James Lamar) other than their connection through the Lamar family... So, I >believe there was a William Severs and a William Seaver. I would like to find >proof that Wm Severs and Wm Seaver were the same person as more genealogy of >the Henry Seaver family of Botetout Co VA is known and I cant find any >ancestry for Wm Severs born l752 unless he happens to be the same person as >Deserting Hessian soldier from July l782 Savanna GA named Johannes Wilhelm >Siebert born l751. >Anyone with any information on Wm Severs, Wm Seaver, or Johannes Wilhelm >Siebert prior to l793 (probably in the area between Savanna GA and Montgomery >CO VA) such as an indenture or oath of allegiance, or anything. I would kill >for the information. >Charles Severs > Charles, There were definitely two different William Severs/Seaver(s) in VA & East TN. The William Seavers 1752-1852 married Catherine Peck in VA and died in Nodaway Co, MO. His DOB and DOD are established from the 1850 Nodaway Co, MO census and by death records in MO. There is also ample evidence of his residence in Knox and Anderson Co, TN. My husband's grgrgrgrandfather was another William Seavers/Severs/Sivers. He died in 1817, leaving minor children in Wythe Co, VA. He had connections in Scott Co. VA and Hawkins Co, TN. His DOD is established by orphans' records in Wythe Co. and other court records there. His name is established by his second wife's death certificate in Scott Co, VA. My *hypothesis* is that the William who died 1817 was a brother of Jacob, John and Elizabeth. He *may* have been the William who bonded Elizabeth's marriage to James Lamar. Jacob Seaver lived in Scott Co. until 1820; his wife's parents lived in Hawkins. I believe that the two Williams were probably connected in some way; perhaps they were uncle/nephew (more hypothesizing). I think that the spelling variations should be ignored, for the most part. The family of the William who died in 1817 used Seavers, Seevers, Severs, Sivers in earlier years. It is only in the 20th century that we begin to see any real consistency in the spelling of surnames in general. Pat Seaver whose husband's great-great-grandfather's marriage record says "John Sivers". -- Patricia M. Seaver Williamsville, New York

In a message dated 8/25/01 10:00:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, m22shul@provide.net writes: > Polly was a nickname for Mary back then. > > Certainly correct for Mary Polly Severs wife of William Lamar of Anderson Co TN married l8ll Anderson Co TN. There are several inconsistiencies in the Petracek book regarding William Severs (father of Mary Polly Severs). There was a William Seaver who bonded the l796 marriage of Elizabeth Seavers to James Lamar (brother of William and son of Hanna Lamar-married name unless illigitimate). WM Severs married in nearby Montgomery Co VA and was in Anderson County TN before Anderson County was formed. He had non-receipt of undelivered mail in about l800 in Knox Co TN so it is assumed he went to TN after marriage and is less likely to be that William Severs who bonded the James Lamar Marriage. Also William of TN had 3 children and a wife by l800 and there is a William Seaver(s) in the l800 Census of Botetout Co VA living with two males (if Wm of TN he would have had 2 females as well as he had a female child and a wife in l800). There is no known connection to the Seaver(s) family of Henry and Elizabeth Seaver of Botetout Co VA with children Jacob, John, and Elizabeth(who married James Lamar) other than their connection through the Lamar family... So, I believe there was a William Severs and a William Seaver. I would like to find proof that Wm Severs and Wm Seaver were the same person as more genealogy of the Henry Seaver family of Botetout Co VA is known and I cant find any ancestry for Wm Severs born l752 unless he happens to be the same person as Deserting Hessian soldier from July l782 Savanna GA named Johannes Wilhelm Siebert born l751. Anyone with any information on Wm Severs, Wm Seaver, or Johannes Wilhelm Siebert prior to l793 (probably in the area between Savanna GA and Montgomery CO VA) such as an indenture or oath of allegiance, or anything. I would kill for the information. Charles Severs

Send message to Severs-L-request@rootsweb.com and say subscribe in body and subject lines. When you want to stop it do the same and say unsubscribe. is this the Alvin Severs you were mentioning. If so I will paste some info to you. Charles Severs Descendants of Alvin Azariah Severs 1 Alvin Azariah Severs 1893 - WFT Est. 1922-1984 . +Reva Rilla Leffler 1900 - 1930 ........ 2 Ralph Alvin Severs Private - ........ 2 Kenneth Golborn Severs Private - ........ 2 Reva Emogene Severs Private - I have no more parental info on him but a lot on his wife. This is tree 1104 on CD titled WFT 35 from Broderbund. Code 6673520 for submitter information at www.familytreemaker.com--search down the left of the page at that location and click on submitter information. You will need that info to find the name of the submitter. I can give you more ancestry on the wife if this is the correct one. The submitter may be able to help more as well. Charles Severs

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Severs Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lBHBAIB/72.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hey Steve, Thanks again! I've sent an e-mail off to Peter and hopefully he'll get back to me with some good news! Regards, Nancy