The code for this census report was sent me by Pat Seaver. I have no trouble deciphering what info I had. It is the interpretation of what I deciphered that is the trouble. I had Wm Severs 112000001 00200100001 Living next to James Severs 0001 1001 This deciphers as Wm one male 0-5, one male 5-l0, 2 males , l0- l5, and one male age 70-80. In other words noone of age to parent the children unless they were parented by someone over 50. Wm l752 would have been nearly 90 at that time. I assume this is him with a l digit error on his age and he was really 90 and these are grandchildren. Now to the females 2 age l0-15. One age 30-40 (their mother? guess the father died or split some time ago as there are no children 0-10. Young William did go to AR but I thought the time was about l840 and if this is his children he must have gone about l830 and did not come back for a long time. Lastly a female age 90. Catherine would have been 70 and was thought to have died in l830-40 and before l840 and this would have been a 20 year error on her age or,certainly l0. He was the older one. Could the census taker have reversed their ages. That would make some sense of this Now to James 1 male age l5-20 1 female 0-5 and one female l5-20. fairly clearly a very young couple and a baby female type. James Severs son of Wm Severs born l797 was born much later than this so this is another James and probably a son of Wm and Catherine. Guess he could be a son of one of the other brothers. and unknown to now just as easily. Aint genealogy fun? I believe we could develop a game much like Clue based on this family history and teach genealogy as well as have a nice game to sell. Anyone familiar with Clue will understand. It could also work like monopoly. Any other thoughts on this? Maybe the info I got was not really l840 but it appears to be. I believe I need to start over. I know where there are printed copies of the TN Census. I will have to get to this and find out who James and George are in that TN census data of Anderson Co Charles Severs

Here are the census codes: 1800-1810 Males 0-10 10-16 16-26 26-45 45-UP Females 0-10 10-16 16-26 26-45 45-UP All Others Slaves 1820 Males 0-10 10-16 16-18 16-26 26-45 45-UP Females 0-10 10-15 16-26 26-45 45-UP Foreigners not naturalized/Agriculture/Commerce/Manufactures/Free Colored/Slaves 1830-1840 Males 0-5 5-10 10-15 15-20 20-30 30-40 40-50 50-60 70-80 80-90 90-100 100-UP Females (Same) Pat -- Patricia M. Seaver Williamsville, New York

Pat; I know it is dumb. It was on the Anderson Co web site and came up on a search for James Sever or Seaver or Severs (I think the latter). I scrolled through many pages and was unable to tell which year. I do know that Wm Sr was in Anderson Co from the beginning and in Knox Co earlier. Wm Jr was born l797 or so. John was born l798 or so. Mary Polly was born l896 or so Daniel H was born l802 Jacob Peck Severs was born l809 James and George are unconnected. This james would be born before l820 if son of Wm Sr and after l820 if son of WIlliam Jr. or one of the others. I knew this question would come up quickly and should have explained but it was so wordy. Thanks again I did think access to the printed census. The page 172 would be the key Come to think of it. I will search James in an index I have James only in MD and no william l800 at all l8l0 none of either l820 nothing l830 getting hot here, but it does not mention p l72 and that is a bummer. maybe l840 will tell Census Index: U.S. Selected Counties, 1830 Severs, Daniel H. State : AL County : Blount Co. Year : 1830 Page # : 003 Severs, George State : TN County : Anderson Co. Location : Clinton Year : 1832 Severs, James State : TN County : Anderson Co. Location : Clinton Year : 1830 Page # : 75 Severs, James State : TN County : Anderson Co. Location : Clinton Year : 1832 Severs, John State : TN County : Anderson Co. Location : Clinton Year : 1830 Page # : 75 Severs, John State : TN County : Anderson Co. Location : Clinton Year : 1832 Severs, William State : AR County : Washington Co. Location : No Twp Listed Year : 1836 Page # : 031 Census type code : Tax List Severs, William State : TN County : Anderson Co. Location : Clinton Year : 1830 Page # : 75 Severs, William State : TN County : Anderson Co. Location : Clinton Year : 1832 Severs, William, Sr. State : TN County : Anderson Co. Location : Clinton Year : 1830 Page # : 75 Severs, William, Sr. State : TN County : Anderson Co. Location : Clinton Year : 1832 I may have answered my own question as Wm Jr went to AL about l835. This appears to suggest it is Wm Sr and grandson James. Maybe the ages will tell, but I dont have the code. Hope you have it. l840 Nothing in TN. I believe that what I was looking for was numbered differently than what I have here. The entries would suggest strongly that it was l830 Census. I am surprised to find a William in AR or AL as I did not think William Jr had left TN by that time. He seems to be listed BOTH places (Clinton Co TN and in AR both). ALso James Severs if son of William Jr was not born until about l830 and would NOT be an adult until MUCH LATER so this James must be someone else--If so I was proposing son of WIlliam Severs Sr and Catherine Peck I am going to send this to Severs-L and see if anyone else is familiar with any of this sufficiently to make a comment. Thanks for the effort and your opinion is valued. Charles If anyone would like a Census search of l790 to l850 for ALL Severs listings ask and I will do it and paste it to the list. Those uninterested can delete quickly. Let me know if you want spelling variants and which one. if Seaver is searched it will make the list quite long in about l850. My John Severs born l798 TN moved to Nodaway Co MO in l849 and was listed as Seaver or Seavers at that time.

I found on the internet the results of a Census from the Anderson Co TN web page (Quite nice--wish all other counties did as well). It read page l72] Wm Severs ll2000001 00200100001 and next to him on the next line was Jas Severs 0001 1001 Any suggestions as to which William Severs this is and the relationship of this James. It would appear to be a son of Wm. Wm Severs born l797 approximately had a son named James born l837. Someone familar with this census data might be able to identify the year and see if this data fits. I had some info that there was a James Severs in the earlier data suggesting there might be a son named James of Wm Severs l752 and Catherine Peck. Charles Severs

In a message dated 11/29/01 9:33:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, dvicky@primenet.com writes: > My information comes from Carl Lyman Sever's > granddaughter. My interest in the Severs surname > is in Charles' marriage to my Housden ancestor > > 1 Carl Lyman Severs > b: December 27, 1869 > d: February 21, 1927 > .. +Amanda Bell Burkhart > b: September 26, 1880 Kansas > m: June 26, 1904 > d: April 27, 1956 Missouri > ............. 2 Charles Earl Severs > b: October 24, 1906 Neosho, Newton, Missouri > d: December 28, 1994 Joplin, Missouri > ................. +Nina Delilah Housden > b: June 25, 1911 Licking, Texas,Missouri > m: March 04, 1933 Neosho,Newton County, Missouri > d: March 16, 1990 Neosho, Newton County, Missouri > > > This was originally sent by dvicky@primenet.com who is not a list > subscriber. If you have any interest please contact them directly. This > data came from Ancestry/com Charles Severs > >

In a message dated 11/28/01 3:08:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, WAS50 writes: > Dennis Lee Severs was my half brother , and he had tremendous popularity > in London. He purchased property in the Spitafield area ,and rebuilt it > to show to tourist about the older London.He was very dramatic ,and had a > fictious family by the name of the Jervis`s living there , in his > presentation .He had royality there to visit. He sold it back ,and to > still show ,when he found he had terminal cancer-- He is buried in a grave > ,on the property of his past friend Sara,whom he could never marry. They > still stayed friends through the years. He was Born in Escondido , > California-- His father was Earl Alfred Severs ( my step father) ,and his > father was Perley Severs. I do have good info on this line ,if you wish it > ,also newpaper accounts of Dennis from the New York Times , the and London > times. > > I hope this is of some help ? was50@aol.com > >

I had a relative who , according to family legend was born about l880 in KY and left to go to the West COast in early l900 at age 21. He was known to be in San francisco shortly after adn disappeared. He was thought to be lost in the earthquake of l906?but seemed to have disappeared before that. Any info on him appreciated. There was another Andrew Severs born in TN about l868 and went to the "West", presumably Texas and was never heard from again. When I heard this story from a Severs in TN, I thought this has got to be one of my direct family, "How many disappearing persons named Andrew Severs, in the same or similar time frame, could have been lost going west. I am sure they would appreciate any info on this Andrew. We are certain they are different people. Charles Severs

I had a relative who , according to family legend was born about l880 in KY and left to go to the West COast in early l900 at age 21. He was known to be in San francisco shortly after adn disappeared. He was thought to be lost in the earthquake of l906?but seemed to have disappeared before that. Any info on him appreciated. There was another Andrew Severs born in TN about l868 and went to the "West", presumably Texas and was never heard from again. When I heard this story from a Severs in TN, I thought this has got to be one of my direct family, "How many disappearing persons named Andrew Severs, in the same or similar time frame, could have been lost going west. I am sure they would appreciate any info on this Andrew. We are certain they are different people. Charles Severs

who had the old house in London England (aptly named the Dennis Severs House ) and was related to William Porter Severs of Apanoose Co IA. Some made enquiry about him and I found, today, an obituary in the MO archives for him. I believe it is a subscription but it is cancelable in 7 days if not worthwhile. I believe Dennis was only age 51.

I was researching the tax record film for White Co., TN today. I found James Severs paying taxes for the years 1811 and 1812. There were no other Severs on the tax record from the years 1811-1829. Does any one know anything about this James? Kathy Pugh

Land Records: AL, AR, FL, LA, MI, MN, OH, WI Severs, Charles J. State : AR Document Number : 2607 Acreage : 0.00 Patentee Name : Severs, Charles J. Warrantee Name : Accession Number : AR0910__.125 Volume/Page : 910/125 Land Office : Fayetteville Aliquot Part Reference : W½SW Section/Township/Range : 5/15 North/33 West Meridian/Survey Area : Fifth Principal Meridian Act/Treaty Authorizing Sale : Sale-Cash Entries Date Signed : Mar 10, 1843 Multiple Patentees : N Multiple Warrantees : N Signed : Y Document Canceled : N Reserved Subsurface Rights : N Measured in Metes and Bounds : N Fractional Section : N Severs, Charles J. State : AR Document Number : 2607 Acreage : 160.00 Patentee Name : Severs, Charles J. Warrantee Name : Accession Number : AR0910__.125 Volume/Page : 910/125 Land Office : Fayetteville Aliquot Part Reference : E½SE Section/Township/Range : 6/15 North/33 West Meridian/Survey Area : Fifth Principal Meridian Act/Treaty Authorizing Sale : Sale-Cash Entries Date Signed : Mar 10, 1843 Multiple Patentees : N Multiple Warrantees : N Signed : Y Document Canceled : N Reserved Subsurface Rights : N Measured in Metes and Bounds : N Fractional Section : N Severs, Charles J. State : AR Document Number : 2686 Acreage : 80.00 Patentee Name : Severs, Charles J. Warrantee Name : Accession Number : AR0890__.356 Volume/Page : 890/356 Land Office : Fayetteville Aliquot Part Reference : E½SW Section/Township/Range : 5/15 North/33 West Meridian/Survey Area : Fifth Principal Meridian Act/Treaty Authorizing Sale : Sale-Cash Entries Date Signed : Jun 15, 1841 Multiple Patentees : N Multiple Warrantees : N Signed : Y Document Canceled : N Reserved Subsurface Rights : N Measured in Metes and Bounds : N Fractional Section : N Severs, Charles J. State : AR Document Number : 10828 Acreage : 80.00 Patentee Name : Severs, Charles J. Warrantee Name : Accession Number : AR1060__.003 Volume/Page : 1060/3 Land Office : Fayetteville Aliquot Part Reference : W½SE Section/Township/Range : 5/15 North/33 West Meridian/Survey Area : Fifth Principal Meridian Act/Treaty Authorizing Sale : Sale-Cash Entries Date Signed : Feb 1, 1860 Multiple Patentees : N Multiple Warrantees : N Signed : Y Document Canceled : N Reserved Subsurface Rights : N Measured in Metes and Bounds : N Fractional Section : N Severs, Daniel State : MI Document Number : 22891 Acreage : 40.00 Patentee Name : Severs, Daniel Warrantee Name : Accession Number : MI0760__.346 Volume/Page : 760/346 Land Office : Detroit Aliquot Part Reference : NENE Section/Township/Range : 35/6 North/8 East Meridian/Survey Area : Michigan Principal Meridian Act/Treaty Authorizing Sale : Sale-Cash Entries Date Signed : Aug 12, 1837 Multiple Patentees : N Multiple Warrantees : N Signed : Y Document Canceled : N Reserved Subsurface Rights : N Measured in Metes and Bounds : N Fractional Section : N Severs, Daniel H. State : AL Document Number : 9779 Acreage : 80.34 Patentee Name : Severs, Daniel H. Warrantee Name : Accession Number : AL3570__.047 Volume/Page : 3570/47 Land Office : Huntsville Aliquot Part Reference : W½NW Section/Township/Range : 22/12 South/2 East Meridian/Survey Area : Huntsville Meridian Act/Treaty Authorizing Sale : Sale-Cash Entries Date Signed : Sep 10, 1838 Multiple Patentees : N Multiple Warrantees : N Signed : Y Document Canceled : N Reserved Subsurface Rights : N Measured in Metes and Bounds : N Fractional Section : N Severs, Daniel J. State : AR Document Number : 9568 Acreage : 0.00 Patentee Name : Severs, Daniel J. Warrantee Name : Accession Number : AR1030__.492 Volume/Page : 1030/492 Land Office : Fayetteville Aliquot Part Reference : NESE Section/Township/Range : 15/20 North/31 West Meridian/Survey Area : Fifth Principal Meridian Act/Treaty Authorizing Sale : Sale-Cash Entries Date Signed : Feb 1, 1860 Multiple Patentees : N Multiple Warrantees : N Signed : Y Document Canceled : N Reserved Subsurface Rights : N Measured in Metes and Bounds : N Fractional Section : N Severs, Daniel J. State : AR Document Number : 9568 Acreage : 80.00 Patentee Name : Severs, Daniel J. Warrantee Name : Accession Number : AR1030__.492 Volume/Page : 1030/492 Land Office : Fayetteville Aliquot Part Reference : NWSW Section/Township/Range : 14/20 North/31 West Meridian/Survey Area : Fifth Principal Meridian Act/Treaty Authorizing Sale : Sale-Cash Entries Date Signed : Feb 1, 1860 Multiple Patentees : N Multiple Warrantees : N Signed : Y Document Canceled : N Reserved Subsurface Rights : N Measured in Metes and Bounds : N Fractional Section : N Severs, Joseph State : MI Document Number : 959 Acreage : 0.00 Patentee Name : Severs, Joseph Warrantee Name : Accession Number : MI2310__.396 Volume/Page : 2310/396 Land Office : Marquette Aliquot Part Reference : E½SE Section/Township/Range : 31/41 North/16 West Meridian/Survey Area : Michigan Principal Meridian Misc Document Number : 1882 Act/Treaty Authorizing Sale : Homestead Entry Orig. Date Signed : Jun 6, 1888 Multiple Patentees : N Multiple Warrantees : N Signed : Y Document Canceled : N Reserved Subsurface Rights : N Measured in Metes and Bounds : N Fractional Section : N Severs, Joseph State : MI Document Number : 959 Acreage : 160.87 Patentee Name : Severs, Joseph Warrantee Name : Accession Number : MI2310__.396 Volume/Page : 2310/396 Land Office : Marquette Aliquot Part Reference : E½NE Section/Township/Range : 31/41 North/16 West Meridian/Survey Area : Michigan Principal Meridian Misc Document Number : 1882 Act/Treaty Authorizing Sale : Homestead Entry Orig. Date Signed : Jun 6, 1888 Multiple Patentees : N Multiple Warrantees : N Signed : Y Document Canceled : N Reserved Subsurface Rights : N Measured in Metes and Bounds : N Fractional Section : N Severs, Lucinda State : AR Document Number : 17381 Acreage : 36.90 Patentee Name : Severs, Lucinda Warrantee Name : Accession Number : AR0770__.029 Volume/Page : 770/29 Land Office : Batesville Aliquot Part Reference : NE Section/Township/Range : 25/12 North/9 West Meridian/Survey Area : Fifth Principal Meridian Act/Treaty Authorizing Sale : Sale-Cash Entries Date Signed : May 1, 1860 Multiple Patentees : N Multiple Warrantees : N Signed : Y Document Canceled : N Reserved Subsurface Rights : N Measured in Metes and Bounds : N Fractional Section : Y Severs, William State : AR Document Number : 2804 Acreage : 40.00 Patentee Name : Severs, William Warrantee Name : Accession Number : AR0890__.465 Volume/Page : 890/465 Land Office : Fayetteville Aliquot Part Reference : SWSE Section/Township/Range : 11/14 North/33 West Meridian/Survey Area : Fifth Principal Meridian Act/Treaty Authorizing Sale : Sale-Cash Entries Date Signed : Jun 15, 1841 Multiple Patentees : N Multiple Warrantees : N Signed : Y Document Canceled : N Reserved Subsurface Rights : N Measured in Metes and Bounds : N Fractional Section : N If marked SIGNED Y it means an actual signature of the person is available on the document. The Group in Arkansas are all desc of Wm Severs and Catherine Peck Charles Severs

data in WFT 41 tree 1375 was submitted bo James H Thompson 5089 Willow Oak Place Dumfries VA 22026 if anyone is interested I have written him sending additional info on both families. Charles Severs

was submitted by Lee D Lambeth Sr   13319 Belfield Dr   Farmers Branch TX 75234-5103 Charles Severs If anyone is related to Ray or JO Severs

In a message dated 10/21/01 10:14:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, leelamar@swbell.net writes: > My Lamar ancestor is James Lamar, b Mar 17, 1772 in VA, PA or MD, md > Elizabeth Seaver in VA. At one time he went South from VA into Georgia, > but later returned to VA. He died in Jefferson County, Tennessee. He > had a brother William, b. before 1770. William died in Knox County, > TN. Their mother was believe to be named Hannah. James and William are > also believed to have had another brother, Lewis and two sisters Sarah > and Jane. Descendants of both James and William came to Missouri. > Another James, b. 1780 came to Missouri from Claiborne Co. TN. He is > believed to have been the son of Osborn Lamar and Rachel Beasley. All > these Lamar's are believed to be closely related, but just how, I do not > know. However, I wish I did and would appreciate any information you > might have that would help. Lee L. > > Lee: How does Osborn fit into Hanna , James, and William? if he is related and a Rev war soldier he would have to be parent or at that ancestral level as they seemed to be born around l770 (James and William). I have no info about James going to GA. William went to Knox/Anderson Co TN with wife who died in l806 (Roseanne Mills) and he married my relative Mary "Polly" Severs. I believe you have a copy of Petracek book "The Lamar Legacy". James, then, went to Nodaway Co MO and apparently his wife Elizabeth Seaver died there. He returned to Jefferson Co TN afterward and died there as you stated. Decendants of both James and William intermarried with Severs in later generations and migrated with William Severs to Newton Co MO area after l840 and to Nodaway Co MO with John Severs l849 and after (or, maybe the Severs went with them). I know of no other connection of the Seaver family and the Severs family but have been looking for it as William Severs l752 was father of Mary Polly Severs and the marriage of James Lamar in l796 in Botetout Co VA was bonded by William Seaver. He seems to be a different person than William Severs as he shows in the l800 census of Botetout Co VA living with two males and, at that time Wm Severs seemed to be in Knox Co TN with wife and 3 children (one was female) so the census entry for Botetout Co could hardly be for him. I assume you have no male parent for James and WIlliam I assume you have not connected them to the Maryland Lamar Clan (which seems so logical but has evaded me). The name Osborn would seem to connect him to the Maryland Clan of Lamar. If he is related to James and William it would be a further indication of that connection as Osborn would, probably, come from Verlinda Osborn who is of the Maryland clan. Yours Charles Severs Subscribe to Severs-L@rootsweb.com if interested.

At http://www.scioto.org/Ross/obits/Q-T/sever-herma.html is an Obituary for HERMA SEVER 77, Frankfort d. 8 June 1998. Her husb WILBUR "BILL" SEVER m.1941. Mother: Rosa Nell (Green) Reeves of Ky. Other surnames in this obit:Wooten, Reisinger, Hummel, Secrest, Fout, Long, Hildebrand, Crago, Sharp. Can anyone connect to this lady?

Seek the parents of ISAAC ESSEX b.c1786 MD & wf NANCY SEVERS b.c1790 PA/MD who m. 1812 Ross Co, OH by a J.P. At least 9 child born in or around Chillicothe before this family migrated to Marion Co, IN c1830, from there migrated to then Warren Co, IL (now Henderson co) c1834. Nancy & oldest dau d.1844 & are bur in Oquawka Cem, Henderson, IL. Does anyone have a NANCY in their SEVERS line who fits this b.date?

In a message dated 10/20/2001 8:14:15 PM Mountain Daylight Time, S9359338@aol.com writes: > SEVERS-L@rootsweb.com > > I don't know much about Abraham Severs. I never ordered his pension/war > record because of the price increase at the National archives last year. I > wish they had those records at the Denver Archives. According the A.I.S. in > the 1790-1810 census index, there are two Abraham Severs. One is in > Charleston Dist., Charleston City, pg 188, 1810 census and the other is in > Washington Co., OH Salem twp., pg 85, tx 1808. I can't find my 1820 A.I.S. > I can look that up the next time I go to the Family History Center. Just to clarify George's son's names, they definitely are Lorenzo Dow and Francis. > James is still a presumed son. > >

anyone know anything about him, relatives, war record, etc?? He was in Washington Co IL History settling there in l821. may have been brother of a George Severs and uncle of a James M Severs. George seemed to have children named Francis Severs and James M Severs, and Lorenzo Dow Severs. Francis and Lorenzo Dow Severs were in the l830 Census in Washington Co IL Charles Severs

--part1_131.33e9641.29019329_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_131.33e9641.29019329_alt_boundary" --part1_131.33e9641.29019329_alt_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/19/01 9:40:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MAILER-DAEMON@qm.localnet.com writes: > seaverp@mail.localnet.com > Just got a nice reply from Pat Seaver abou Fielding Seaver on line and the > reply came back. Is this the right address for Pat Seaver. Hope she is on > the list. > --part1_131.33e9641.29019329_alt_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 10/19/01 9:40:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MAILER-DAEMON@qm.localnet.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">seaverp@mail.localnet.com <BR>Just got a nice reply from Pat Seaver abou Fielding Seaver on line and the reply came back. Is this the right address for Pat Seaver. Hope she is on the list. <BR>Charles Seveers</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT></HTML> --part1_131.33e9641.29019329_alt_boundary-- --part1_131.33e9641.29019329_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <> Received: from rly-yd04.mail.aol.com (rly-yd04.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.4]) by air-yd03.mail.aol.com (v81.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYD31-1019094005; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:40:05 -0400 Received: from qm.localnet.com (mail.localnet.com [207.251.201.44]) by rly-yd04.mx.aol.com (v81.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYD410-1019093922; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:39:22 -0400 Received: (qmail 7432 invoked for bounce); 19 Oct 2001 13:38:51 -0000 Date: 19 Oct 2001 13:38:51 -0000 From: MAILER-DAEMON@qm.localnet.com To: S9359338@aol.com Subject: failure notice Message-ID: <200110190939.MDVa00257@rly-yd04.mx.aol.com> X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. This is the qmail-send program at qm.localnet.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. <seaverp@mail.localnet.com>: Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: <S9359338@aol.com> Received: (qmail 7421 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2001 13:38:51 -0000 Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com (152.163.225.105) by 0 with SMTP; 19 Oct 2001 13:38:51 -0000 Received: from S9359338@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id p.64.14e06f27 (4330) for <seaverp@mail.localnet.com>; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:39:08 -0400 (EDT) From: S9359338@aol.com Message-ID: <64.14e06f27.290186fc@aol.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:39:08 EDT Subject: Re: Fielding Severs To: seaverp@mail.localnet.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_64.14e06f27.290186fc_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 --part1_64.14e06f27.290186fc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/18/01 10:33:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, seaverp@mail.localnet.com writes: > What was the protocol back then for illegitimate children? Did they > take the mother's maiden name or the father's surname or did the > practice vary? > > I missed this. I think it varied a lot but it should be good info to have regardless of the protocol. There were two other "mysterious William Severs (Maybe 3). One is speculated to be a brother of Jacob Seaver son of HEnry and Elizabeth and who married Ester Croberger. I believe about the only evidence of him is an l800 Botetout Co VA census entry and his bonding the marriage of Elizabeth Seaver to James Lamar in l796 Botetout Co. The other was born l788 and seemed to be connected to a Florida group of Severs and had a son named Jeremiah, who was not the same as Jeremiah Seaver son of Jacob. I believe someone on the Severs-L or similar has, actually, worked this William out along with Jeremiah. If specifically interested we might start a discussion about what is known about these various "Old Williams" Charles Severs --part1_64.14e06f27.290186fc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 10/18/01 10:33:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, seaverp@mail.localnet.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What was the protocol back then for illegitimate children? Did they <BR>take the mother's maiden name or the father's surname or did the <BR>practice vary? <BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>I missed this. <BR>I think it varied a lot but it should be good info to have regardless of the protocol. <BR>There were two other "mysterious William Severs (Maybe 3). <BR>One is speculated to be a brother of Jacob Seaver son of HEnry and Elizabeth and who married Ester Croberger. I believe about the only evidence of him is an l800 Botetout Co VA census entry and his bonding the marriage of Elizabeth Seaver to James Lamar in l796 Botetout Co. <BR>The other was born l788 and seemed to be connected to a Florida group of Severs and had a son named Jeremiah, who was not the same as Jeremiah Seaver son of Jacob. <BR>I believe someone on the Severs-L or similar has, actually, worked this William out along with Jeremiah. If specifically interested we might start a discussion about what is known about these various "Old Williams" <BR>Charles Severs</FONT></HTML> --part1_64.14e06f27.290186fc_boundary-- --part1_131.33e9641.29019329_boundary--

Re Fielding Seavers from _The Lost Children of Wythe County, Virginia 1790-1878_ by Mary B. Kegley 1995, p. 137: Court Order Book March 9, 1829 "Fielding Seavors, an illegitimate child over 14 years of age, chose Michael Moyers his guardian. Security on the bond, John Foster for Michael Moyers, Jr. The bond says the child is under age 14." The court order is certainly unclear as to Fielding's age--he was either over or under 14 years old in 1829! The Fielding of the Davidson Co. census would have had a DoB of approximately 1809. If that age is accurate, he would have been 20 in 1820 and not the subject of a court order dealing with a guardian. However, the name is unusual, and I have seen many cases of ages varying widely from one census to the next. From Virginia Historic Marriage Register Wythe County Marriages, p. 98: Seavers, Fielding & Nancy Camp 12 Mar 1829; min- L.L. Marshall 1 jan 1830 I don't know what to make of the two different dates in the marriage record. Usually one is the license or bond and the other is the date of the ceremony, but the two dates usually aren't so far apart. Also, note that the 12 mar 1829 is only 3 days after the court order. Their oldest child is Wm. 18=DoB about 1832. Other Seaver, Seavers, Seivers, Severs entries in the Lost Children book appear to be from the children and grandchildren of a William Severs who died in 1817 (definitely a different William from the one who married Catherine Peck), leaving minor (and adult) children in Wythe Co, VA. I believe that William was closely related to the Jacob Seaver who married Esther Croberger. What was the protocol back then for illegitimate children? Did they take the mother's maiden name or the father's surname or did the practice vary? Pat >was in the l840 Census of Williamson Co TN. >Anyone know how he fits into anything? >The l850 Census of TN (Davidson Co )shows Fielding age 41 with wife Nancy age >36 and children Wm l8, Clinton 16, Corns l4,Jas ll, Susan 8, alger S 6, Joel >A B 4. Both Parents born in VA. Had they been born in TN they woudl be >suspect of belonging to Wm Severs and Catherine Peck but that is less likely >with a VA birth if correct. > -- Patricia M. Seaver Williamsville, New York