Hello Lloyd, Saturday, February 6, 2010, 4:58:23 PM, you wrote: Lac> For several days now I have a pop-up that keeps coming up at Lac> different times when I am offline. Something is evidently trying to connect to the internet and presumably you are on a dial-up service so not automatically on-line ? It could be something perfectly innocent as your Anti-Virus trying to get an update but it could also be something malicious. The thing to do is unplug your internet modem and then let it connect - this will hopefully show you what it is or where it's trying to go without it actually going there :-) Once you know what it is that's causing this dial-up request then you'll be in a position to sort it. -- Best regards, Barry mailto:barry@yobunny.co.uk MicroSoft Free Zone running Ubuntu 9.10'Karmic'

Hello Walter, Saturday, February 6, 2010, 3:20:44 PM, you wrote: WRF> I using VISTA but having difficulty with two column work. When I WRF> type the first entry all is fine. When I type the next entry, WRF> there is a space between the first and second entry. How do I get WRF> rid of that blank space? We need to know which program you are using to do this in. Is it a MS Works document / MS Office document etc ??? -- Best regards, Barry mailto:barry@yobunny.co.uk MicroSoft Free Zone running Ubuntu 9.10'Karmic'

I don't recall any links I clicked on that could have granted Facebook access to my address book. There are apps that I have started to subscribe to and backed out because it said that to work I must give my life away, and I quickly backed out. When one joins Facebook, there are opt-in features that allow FB to access one's addresses that one encounters. One must go into one's privacy settings to opt out. I've done that on the advice and warnings of other FB users. I'm providing a link to posts describing the same problem we're having, and how FB is sneaky in how they obtain "friends" for a subscriber. Here it is: http://badwarebusters.org/main/itemview/4549 And if you merely inactivate one's FB account, yes, FB retains all of your information so that it's there "forever" or when you reactivate. To remove an account and it's information from FB, one must delete one's account. Woody > There are some links you may have clicked in error to invite everyone in > your address book and by clicking the links you would have granted Facebook > access to your AOL address book---otherwise they do not access your > information on your computer. > In a message dated 2/6/2010 8:55:18 A.M. Central Standard Time, _1pa1ga@gmail.com_ (mailto:1pa1ga@gmail.com) writes: Joan, I am delighted to know the Facebook access of my computer was due to something done inadvertently by one of us, rather than Facebook's ability to just open my address book. I appreciate your time and help. Rana

Joan, I have been reading the Facebook Q&A and am so thankful that you told us how to STOP the game apps. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I considered quiting Facebook because of the game apps but now I can stay on & not waste time with the apps. Again, thank you. ECP > From: JYoung6180@aol.com > Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 11:09:51 -0500 > To: senior-newbie@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SR-NEWBIE] Help getting out of Facebook > > Depends on what information you mean. Any information you shared with them > for your profile is most likely stored on a backup server so that settings > can be restored if/when you decide to re-open the account. It isn't being > shared with anyone and isn't public. > > Joan > > > In a message dated 2/6/2010 9:21:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > 1pa1ga@gmail.com writes: > > Do I understand this message to mean that our information is permanently > stored on Facebook? > > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SENIOR-NEWBIE > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SENIOR-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/

List, For several days now I have a pop-up that keeps coming up at different times when I am offline. The message is; (Webpage unavailable while offline. The webpage you requested is not available offline. To view the page, click connect. CONNECT STAY OFFLINE I am running Windows XP Home ,with Firefox 3.7 Lloyd

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 11:09 AM, <JYoung6180@aol.com> wrote: > Depends on what information you mean. Any information you shared with them > for your profile is most likely stored on a backup server so that settings > can be restored if/when you decide to re-open the account. It isn't being > shared with anyone and isn't public. > > Joan > Joan, again sincere thanks for your time and help. I am greatly relieved to know our names, email addresses and passwords are not public. We put nothing else on the pages, just read what we could on all who claimed to be friends, and made our decision those scenarios were not for us. Thanks. Rana > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SENIOR-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Nancy & Ted <hootmon2@earthlink.net> wrote: > I believe Facebook's trick of getting your email addresses is that you have > to UNCLICK something initially, a little blurb you might not notice, that > gives them permission. Pretty tricky. > Nancy, very tricky, because as a newbie to computers and online research, I am very careful what I do and don't do on the web. Also, we had one virus when we first bought our computer, and it cost us eighty dollars to have the virus removed, so we are really careful about sites we open and links we click. I so thank you for telling me of the "pretty tricky" bit. It helps ease my mind that I might have been careless. Rana > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SENIOR-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Depends on what information you mean. Any information you shared with them for your profile is most likely stored on a backup server so that settings can be restored if/when you decide to re-open the account. It isn't being shared with anyone and isn't public. Joan In a message dated 2/6/2010 9:21:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 1pa1ga@gmail.com writes: Do I understand this message to mean that our information is permanently stored on Facebook?

Good morning list, I using VISTA but having difficulty with two column work. When I type the first entry all is fine. When I type the next entry, there is a space between the first and second entry. How do I get rid of that blank space? Walter

Nancy-you click Hide and it then gives you options-you can block whatever application you wish. Helen

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:56 PM, <JYoung6180@aol.com> wrote: > There are some links you may have clicked in error to invite everyone in > your address book and by clicking the links you would have granted Facebook > access to your AOL address book---otherwise they do not access your > information on your computer. > Joan, I am delighted to know the Facebook access of my computer was due to something done inadvertently by one of us, rather than Facebook's ability to just open my address book. I appreciate your time and help. Rana > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SENIOR-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

We thank everyone who wrote and instructed us on removing ourselves from Facebook. Many thanks. As we closed our account, a Facebook team message was emailed to us (in essence; not direct quote) that anytime we wished to return we could, and things would be just as they are today. Do I understand this message to mean that our information is permanently stored on Facebook? This effort to use a venue such as Facebook has been another learning experiece for us. In conclusion, I think the problem is that we did not fully understand the purpose of Facebook. Considerably after the fact, we have read its statements of purpose. TIA Rana

I believe Facebook's trick of getting your email addresses is that you have to UNCLICK something initially, a little blurb you might not notice, that gives them permission. Pretty tricky. I would like to know this about Facebook: My stuff never appears on my friends' pages, and I know that they are not all, at least, blocking me. I did something to keep Facebook from having some sort of control early on (suggested by a cousin) and that may have something to do with it, but darned if I can figure out how to let people see my postings. I have been all over those links, and can't figure it out. BTW, there is a way to hide all the "Mafia Wars" and "Farmville" stuff that comes, but I don't know what it is off the top of my head. Nancy

There are some links you may have clicked in error to invite everyone in your address book and by clicking the links you would have granted Facebook access to your AOL address book---otherwise they do not access your information on your computer. As for the Facebook apps -- it the posts from the apps coming through the newsfeed bother you and/or you are not playing the particular game...when a friend's Farmville or Mafia Wars or whatever app post comes through the feed just hover your mouse over the post until you see the word HIDE in the upper corner of the post. Click it and you will see a drop down menu where you can select apps you want to block from your feed. Click whichever one you want to block and you won't see it again. Joan In a message dated 2/5/2010 12:33:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, WoodyWoodworth@aol.com writes: Facebook does have its disadvantages and advantages. I find the "apps" games people play particularly annoying. For getting out of Facebook, I finally found two keywords to quit. Go to "Help" and enter "deactivation". That gives the "how-to" for both "deactivation" and "deletion". What you want is "deletion" rather than "deactivation". I also quickly learned that all of those many people that invited you to be their friend -- didn't. That's a Facebook trick. Facebook goes through your address book and looks for matching e-mail addresses, and then the people in your address book that are Facebook members supposedly "invite" you to be their friend. I have several e-mail addresses, and "somehow" I invited myself to be my friend. I declined. Woody

I don't know the answer to that. I just know they do because that's the only way they can come up with those alleged "invitations". A skim over their "Terms" doesn't seem to suggest permission for them to invade one's address book. However, I do know from reviewing complaints about the "MyLife" social network that joining "MyLife" has wording expressly says they can get into your computer. "MyLIfe" is extremely aggressive. There are ways in Facebook's privacy and security settings to limit what Facebook can do. I've received instructions from some on how to set them but I forget what they are. Googling on [ recommended facebook privacy settings ] provides some very good information on that. Woody =================== 1pa1ga@gmail.com writes: Woody, I just had another question/thought: how does Facebook access our email account? Is there perhaps something we can do ito block such intrusions? Whether or not you answer this question, I thank you for your time and help. Rana

To close a Facebook account, log in and click on Account Settings in the upper right corner of the page. Select Deactivate Account. Joan In a message dated 2/5/2010 11:07:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 1pa1ga@gmail.com writes: Thinking Facebook was something of interest to Rick and me, I signed onto the program. I find Facebook is not what I want, or else I don't know how to use it, but either way, I would like to remove us from Facebook, but find no provisions for so doing. Is there someone on this list who can tell either instruct me or direct me to a site for removing all our information from Facebook? Both of us thank you for time and help. Rana and Rick

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:28 PM, <WoodyWoodworth@aol.com> wrote: > > Facebook does have its disadvantages and advantages. I find the "apps" > games people play particularly annoying. > Woody, I just had another question/thought: how does Facebook access our email account? Is there perhaps something we can do ito block such intrusions? Whether or not you answer this question, I thank you for your time and help. Rana > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SENIOR-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:28 PM, <WoodyWoodworth@aol.com> wrote: > > Facebook does have its disadvantages and advantages. I find the "apps" > games people play particularly annoying. > Woody, I cannot wait to try this out! Rick and I are so very grateful to you for taking time to instruct! Blessings! Rana > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SENIOR-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Facebook does have its disadvantages and advantages. I find the "apps" games people play particularly annoying. For getting out of Facebook, I finally found two keywords to quit. Go to "Help" and enter "deactivation". That gives the "how-to" for both "deactivation" and "deletion". What you want is "deletion" rather than "deactivation". I also quickly learned that all of those many people that invited you to be their friend -- didn't. That's a Facebook trick. Facebook goes through your address book and looks for matching e-mail addresses, and then the people in your address book that are Facebook members supposedly "invite" you to be their friend. I have several e-mail addresses, and "somehow" I invited myself to be my friend. I declined. Woody ================= , 1pa1ga@gmail.com writes: Thinking Facebook was something of interest to Rick and me, I signed onto the program. I find Facebook is not what I want, or else I don't know how to use it, but either way, I would like to remove us from Facebook, but find no provisions for so doing. Is there someone on this list who can tell either instruct me or direct me to a site for removing all our information from Facebook? Both of us thank you for time and help. Rana and Rick

Thinking Facebook was something of interest to Rick and me, I signed onto the program. I find Facebook is not what I want, or else I don't know how to use it, but either way, I would like to remove us from Facebook, but find no provisions for so doing. Is there someone on this list who can tell either instruct me or direct me to a site for removing all our information from Facebook? Both of us thank you for time and help. Rana and Rick