In a message dated 5/3/2005 11:55:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, bess@penn.com writes: I have been asked by a person who is writing a genealogy lessons for her class, why do people research? She wants imput other than from a religious point of view. She would like to step outside of her world and find out why the rest of us research our families. She also had question on how computer literate the average person is. How about the rest of your family and friends? Most of mine other than my chidlren could care less. Thank you Marilyn --- As Sharyn has already noted this discussion is much better suited to the ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS list. Thanks! Joan, admin

Marilyn, WHY??? Well.... I am very curious about what life was like back then... I want to know where I came from...I only knew ONE of my grandparents personally.... so, this is about the only way for me to get to know them.... It's fun!! I LOVE old photos, and it's fun to find out who the people on them were.... PAX NancyT I have been asked by a person who is writing a genealogy lessons for her class, why do people research? She wants imput other than from a religious point of view. She would like to step outside of her world and find out why the rest of us research our families. She also had question on how computer literate the average person is. How about the rest of your family and friends? Most of mine other than my chidlren could care less. Thank you Marilyn ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Barry, Some questions about your post, if you don't mind.... 1---what's this download you were talking about? 2---I have a Canon i550 Inkjet.... 4 tanks...What exactly do you mean by "3rd party inks"? 3---please tell me a bit more about your Epson R200.... my i550 does quite well on photos... (I have discovered, however, that most any printer does a FAR better job when you use photo paper... I like the Glossy stuff.... I think it looks more like a "real" photo!! Thanks for your comments, I'll be awaiting your comments from this.... PAX NancyT There's been many a good printer with many years of useful life left in them that have been dumped because of this little problem, and for the sake of a small download ( if you know where to get it ! ) they could have been saved. Of course it's only worth while doing this if the printer continues to give good service - when they get too worn out to be reliable then it really is time to let go of them :-) When you do get to replacing this venerable printer then its long years of service has to say something for Epson - and we to have used Epson printers without any problems, current model being the R200 which prints direct onto CD's as well as producing great photo's. The good thing about Epson's is there's a good market in 3rd party inks at much lower cost, and despite the warnings from Epson we've had good results from these. What I would advise though is to find a brand you like and stick to it - it's when you start mixing different inks that you get the problems with clogged nozzles etc. Not all inks are made the same and some don't mix well !!

----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [SR-NEWBIE] Reasons for research > > In a message dated 5/3/2005 11:55:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, > bess@penn.com > writes: > > I have been asked by a person who is writing a genealogy lessons for her > class, why do people research? She wants imput other than from a > religious > point of view. She would like to step outside of her world and find out > why > the rest of us research our families. She also had question on how > computer > literate the average person is. How about the rest of your family and > friends? Most of mine other than my chidlren could care less. Thank you > Marilyn > > > > --- > As Sharyn has already noted this discussion is much better suited to the > ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS list. > > Thanks! > > Joan, admin > > > ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== > To volunteer to do a lookup or to exchange lookups, go here: > http://www.RAOGK.org > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Grandma, I have a Canon i550....it's an inkjet.... it has a black tank, and magenta (red) tank, a cyan (blue) tank and a yellow tank.....I can replace any one of these 4 when they run out (the printer tells me...on screen...when it is low and out on ink...) and not have to replace the other 3, which may be fine, yet... It will go quite a ways on Low, and even on "out".... it stops printing when out...When it reaches "out", it's best you have another tank in readiness....... I try to keep extra tanks on hand anyway... if you run out of ink..it seems it's **always** in the middle of a huge print project, and, on a Sunday afternoon, yet!! I think the separate tanks give a sharper color... and the black just seems to be a "blacker" black.... I know for a fact, that the 4-tank ink supply is gonna be a Major consideration when this one hits replacement time! My 2-cents worth! PAX NancyT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Fern" <fern@lucasco.net> To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [SR-NEWBIE] Printer Problems Boy did you ever give me a bucketful of information concerning my defunct printer and I thank you very much for it. I did take it to a repair man who fiddled with it a bit and announced that he didn't think "owed me anything" and that rather than try to repair it since it was well past retirement age, I probably would be better off to purchase a new printer. I think I have to agree with him as I have been having quite a bit of trouble with it lately. It is now my decision as to which printer to pick as a replacement (but not until I have attempted to try to fix it myself with your suggestions). I have heard pros and cons from so many makes and models that I am almost down to drawing a name out of a hat. If you have information about a one that you feel is worth the money, I surely would appreciate a "run down" - Thanks again. - Grandma Fern ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== To find and join surname and location genealogy lists at RootsWeb go here: http://lists.rootsweb.com ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

I have been asked by a person who is writing a genealogy lessons for her class, why do people research? She wants imput other than from a religious point of view. She would like to step outside of her world and find out why the rest of us research our families. She also had question on how computer literate the average person is. How about the rest of your family and friends? Most of mine other than my chidlren could care less. Thank you Marilyn

Roy, this would have been an "error log" resulting from a problem in an application you have run (knowingly or unknowingly). I believe some Java based programs write these logs, but I have no idea "which" one on your machine caused it. No harm will have been done by deleting it. However, if the problem doesn't resolve itself, it may reappear. Lance P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program can be downloaded FREE at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=52583ii -----Original Message----- From: ROY FRENCH [mailto:rfrenc0464@rogers.com] Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2005 1:32 AM To: SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SR-NEWBIE] Desk Top Icon When I opened up the computer this morning, I noticed a new Icon on the desk top. I have no idea how it got there. When I clicked on it the window that opened said HS_ERR_PID3284-NOTEPAD. I closed the window and sent the icon to the recycle bin. I have Windows XP and connected to hi-speed cable. Should I be concerned about this? Roy Mississauga - Canada Roy French Mississauga - Canada ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== To leave the list, click here and send: mailto:SENIOR-NEWBIE-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe To leave the DIGEST, click here and send: mailto:SENIOR-NEWBIE-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.1 - Release Date: 2005-05-02

Because it makes us feel so connected to family. I took some information about his grandparents to give my husband's brother. His wife acted irritated, afraid it was "that religious stuff", I am sure. After talking to him about it for awhile I was leaving and Bev said, "Do you think you could find something about my grandmother?" You just can't help but want to know about family! Lenore ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Bess" <bess@penn.com> To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:54 AM Subject: [SR-NEWBIE] Reasons for research I have been asked by a person who is writing a genealogy lessons for her class, why do people research? She wants imput other than from a religious point of view. She would like to step outside of her world and find out why the rest of us research our families. She also had question on how computer literate the average person is. How about the rest of your family and friends? Most of mine other than my chidlren could care less. Thank you Marilyn ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Bess" <bess@penn.com> To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 8:54 AM Subject: [SR-NEWBIE] Reasons for research > I have been asked by a person who is writing a genealogy lessons for her > class, why do people research? She wants imput other than from a religious > point of view. She would like to step outside of her world and find out why > the rest of us research our families. She also had question on how computer > literate the average person is. How about the rest of your family and > friends? Most of mine other than my chidlren could care less. Thank you > Marilyn > Since this is a computer list, rather then a genealogy list, I'll only address the computer question. The research question could perhaps be discussed on the Rocking-Chair-Roots-L. I lead a Genealogy Roundtable discussion group for our local genealogical society. I find that the majority of the group, over half of whom are newbies, use the computer for email and can manage a basic genealogy program. By the time they've been doing genealogy for a year or so they have fairly good computer skills and can use search engines and message boards. This is true no matter what their ages. Just about every senior center has computer classes and many have classes in genealogical computing. The most popular discussion topics all are about using the computer to organize research, search strategies, software programs, and favorite URLs for online data. So, here in Southern CA, I'd have to say the average "hobby" genealogist who started within the past 15 years tends to be moderately computer literate. Regards, Sharyn

Hello Len/Ruth, Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 4:08:32 AM, you wrote: LRB> Hi Barry and Grandma (is this Grandma Fern?): Will the web site LRB> you indicated below work for other printers as well as the Epson? LRB> I am using an hpdeskjet 940c. I think I may need to check for LRB> that ink stuff also. Unfortunately not - it's only for Epson brand printers. HP printers work differently and don't have this waste ink tank issue. What's wrong with yours ? -- Best regards, Barry mailto:barry@yobunny.co.uk MicroSoft Free Zone running Xandros 2.0 Deluxe

Hello Grandma, Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 3:00:13 AM, you wrote: GF> Boy did you ever give me a bucketful of information concerning my GF> defunct printer and I thank you very much for it. I did take it to GF> a repair man who fiddled with it a bit and announced that he GF> didn't think "owed me anything" and that rather than try to repair GF> it since it was well past retirement age, I probably would be GF> better off to purchase a new printer. I think I have to agree with GF> him as I have been having quite a bit of trouble with it lately. There's been many a good printer with many years of useful life left in them that have been dumped because of this little problem, and for the sake of a small download ( if you know where to get it ! ) they could have been saved. Of course it's only worth while doing this if the printer continues to give good service - when they get too worn out to be reliable then it really is time to let go of them :-) GF> It is now my decision as to which printer to pick as a replacement GF> (but not until I have attempted to try to fix it myself with your GF> suggestions). I have heard pros and cons from so many makes and GF> models that I am almost down to drawing a name out of a hat. If GF> you have information about a one that you feel is worth the GF> money, I surely would appreciate a "run down" When you do get to replacing this venerable printer then its long years of service has to say something for Epson - and we to have used Epson printers without any problems, current model being the R200 which prints direct onto CD's as well as producing great photo's. The good thing about Epson's is there's a good market in 3rd party inks at much lower cost, and despite the warnings from Epson we've had good results from these. What I would advise though is to find a brand you like and stick to it - it's when you start mixing different inks that you get the problems with clogged nozzles etc. Not all inks are made the same and some don't mix well !! In Epson's favour, I think if you are planning on your prints to be around for the next 100 years then using Epson inks and paper may have the edge - then again, how much of what we print is expected to last that long ?? -- Best regards, Barry mailto:barry@yobunny.co.uk MicroSoft Free Zone running Xandros 2.0 Deluxe

At the moment it is o.k. I had to have my computer guru (a sophomore in college who has his own business in addition to school) come because my printer wouldn't print. He took off the front and got a lot of dusty black stuff out. Then it printed again. He said that the dusty stuff was from the ink cartridges and just needed to be cleaned out every now and then. I just hope he sticks around after graduation! Thanks for the info on that web site. Ruth in IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" <barry@yobunny.co.uk> To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 4:07 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [SR-NEWBIE] Printer Problems > Hello Len/Ruth, > > Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 4:08:32 AM, you wrote: > > LRB> Hi Barry and Grandma (is this Grandma Fern?): Will the web site > LRB> you indicated below work for other printers as well as the Epson? > LRB> I am using an hpdeskjet 940c. I think I may need to check for > LRB> that ink stuff also. > > Unfortunately not - it's only for Epson brand printers. HP printers > work differently and don't have this waste ink tank issue. > > What's wrong with yours ? > > -- > Best regards, > Barry mailto:barry@yobunny.co.uk > MicroSoft Free Zone running Xandros 2.0 Deluxe > > > ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== > To volunteer to do a lookup or to exchange lookups, go here: > http://www.RAOGK.org > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Barry - Thank you for your discussion in choosing a new printer. Believe me it will be weighed heavily when making the choice. However, I am also well aware that finances will play a very important part in my decision. ("Old faithful" was purchased when I was a working gal). Thanks again for your insight - Grandma Fern ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" <barry@yobunny.co.uk> To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 4:05 AM Subject: Re[2]: [SR-NEWBIE] Printer Problems Hello Grandma, Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 3:00:13 AM, you wrote: GF> Boy did you ever give me a bucketful of information concerning my GF> defunct printer and I thank you very much for it. I did take it to GF> a repair man who fiddled with it a bit and announced that he GF> didn't think "owed me anything" and that rather than try to repair GF> it since it was well past retirement age, I probably would be GF> better off to purchase a new printer. I think I have to agree with GF> him as I have been having quite a bit of trouble with it lately. There's been many a good printer with many years of useful life left in them that have been dumped because of this little problem, and for the sake of a small download ( if you know where to get it ! ) they could have been saved. Of course it's only worth while doing this if the printer continues to give good service - when they get too worn out to be reliable then it really is time to let go of them :-) GF> It is now my decision as to which printer to pick as a replacement GF> (but not until I have attempted to try to fix it myself with your GF> suggestions). I have heard pros and cons from so many makes and GF> models that I am almost down to drawing a name out of a hat. If GF> you have information about a one that you feel is worth the GF> money, I surely would appreciate a "run down" When you do get to replacing this venerable printer then its long years of service has to say something for Epson - and we to have used Epson printers without any problems, current model being the R200 which prints direct onto CD's as well as producing great photo's. The good thing about Epson's is there's a good market in 3rd party inks at much lower cost, and despite the warnings from Epson we've had good results from these. What I would advise though is to find a brand you like and stick to it - it's when you start mixing different inks that you get the problems with clogged nozzles etc. Not all inks are made the same and some don't mix well !! In Epson's favour, I think if you are planning on your prints to be around for the next 100 years then using Epson inks and paper may have the edge - then again, how much of what we print is expected to last that long ?? -- Best regards, Barry mailto:barry@yobunny.co.uk MicroSoft Free Zone running Xandros 2.0 Deluxe

Hello Grandma, Saturday, April 30, 2005, 3:48:39 AM, you wrote: GF> I run Windows 98 with an Epson sylus color 600 printer. which is GF> about 9 years old. It has recently refused to print and all the GF> lights on the printer blink continually when the machine is GF> running.. My guilde book tells me that an internal error may have GF> occurred. Wow - that's an old printer and I assume it's seen a lot of work over the years .... and this is where Epson's can suddenly stop working even though there's actually nothing wrong with the drivers or PC. What happens is the waste ink tank ( in reality a sponge in the base of the printer ) has reached the point where the printer thinks it is too full and need to be changed. This decision is based on the number of times the head cleaning pump has drawn ink from the cartridges. It doesn't have any means of telling if the sponge is soaked with ink or has plenty of life left in it. If you took the printer to an Epson dealer they could change the sponge and use a program to reset the waste in counter ... at a cost ... and they'd probably tell you the thing was broken or not worth the trouble. To be fair, at the prices they'd charge it probably would be more cost effective to buy a new printer <lol> Now for the good news - there is a free program that can do this waste ink counter reset job. As for the sponge in the back of the printer - all the ones I've seen have been nowhere near the point of risking ink seeping out of the printer. It's not as if there's a lot of ink sent there at one go and it soon dries up. The counter reset program is here http://www.ssclg.com/epsone.shtml - it's free and also does a better job of telling you how much ink is left in those cartridges :-) In case you are wondering - yes I've used the program myself to restore a non-working Epson printer to full working condition. BTW - It's not only Epson's that have this problem, Canon printers too have need of this sort of reset after a while. HTH -- Best regards, Barry mailto:barry@yobunny.co.uk MicroSoft Free Zone running Xandros 2.0 Deluxe

Hi Barry and Grandma (is this Grandma Fern?): Will the web site you indicated below work for other printers as well as the Epson? I am using an hpdeskjet 940c. I think I may need to check for that ink stuff also. Thanks. Ruth in IN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" <barry@yobunny.co.uk> To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [SR-NEWBIE] Printer Problems > Hello Grandma, > > Saturday, April 30, 2005, 3:48:39 AM, you wrote: > > GF> I run Windows 98 with an Epson sylus color 600 printer. which is > GF> about 9 years old. It has recently refused to print and all the > GF> lights on the printer blink continually when the machine is > GF> running.. My guilde book tells me that an internal error may have > GF> occurred. > > Wow - that's an old printer and I assume it's seen a lot of work over > the years .... and this is where Epson's can suddenly stop working > even though there's actually nothing wrong with the drivers or PC. > > What happens is the waste ink tank ( in reality a sponge in the base > of the printer ) has reached the point where the printer thinks it is > too full and need to be changed. This decision is based on the number > of times the head cleaning pump has drawn ink from the cartridges. It > doesn't have any means of telling if the sponge is soaked with ink or > has plenty of life left in it. If you took the printer to an Epson > dealer they could change the sponge and use a program to reset the > waste in counter ... at a cost ... and they'd probably tell you the > thing was broken or not worth the trouble. To be fair, at the prices > they'd charge it probably would be more cost effective to buy a new > printer <lol> > > Now for the good news - there is a free program that can do this waste > ink counter reset job. As for the sponge in the back of the printer - > all the ones I've seen have been nowhere near the point of risking ink > seeping out of the printer. It's not as if there's a lot of ink sent > there at one go and it soon dries up. > > The counter reset program is here http://www.ssclg.com/epsone.shtml - > it's free and also does a better job of telling you how much ink is > left in those cartridges :-) > > In case you are wondering - yes I've used the program myself to > restore a non-working Epson printer to full working condition. > > BTW - It's not only Epson's that have this problem, Canon printers too > have need of this sort of reset after a while. > > HTH > > -- > Best regards, > Barry mailto:barry@yobunny.co.uk > MicroSoft Free Zone running Xandros 2.0 Deluxe > > > ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== > To volunteer to do a lookup or to exchange lookups, go here: > http://www.RAOGK.org > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Boy did you ever give me a bucketful of information concerning my defunct printer and I thank you very much for it. I did take it to a repair man who fiddled with it a bit and announced that he didn't think "owed me anything" and that rather than try to repair it since it was well past retirement age, I probably would be better off to purchase a new printer. I think I have to agree with him as I have been having quite a bit of trouble with it lately. It is now my decision as to which printer to pick as a replacement (but not until I have attempted to try to fix it myself with your suggestions). I have heard pros and cons from so many makes and models that I am almost down to drawing a name out of a hat. If you have information about a one that you feel is worth the money, I surely would appreciate a "run down" - Thanks again. - Grandma Fern

You might find missing files at: http://www.snapfiles.com/help/missingfiles.html At 07:48 PM 4/29/2005, you wrote: >I run Windows 98 with an Epson sylus color 600 printer. >which is about 9 years old. It has recently refused to print and >all the lights on the printer blink continually when the machine >is running.. My guilde book tells me that an internal error may >have occurred. Attempts to reinstall the Epson color program with >the disk that came with the machine has not been successful >telling me that certain files are missing. > >I have a three- fold question >1.- where do I go to get the missing files for a machine that old > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.1 - Release Date: 5/2/2005

>Often times debris collects around the laser lamp in the CD >drive. (Static dust -- like dust bunnies. Only this debris is often more >hard packed. It gets attracted to the inside of the CD by the plastic CD >spinning.) Such a drive can often be repaired by cleaning out the drive >with "canned air". >Spray cans are available in "Radio Shack" and other "electronic repair shops." > >Be certain to use canned air, as it is dry and clean. Other sources of >compressed air often have oil in the air, and that will really "gum up the >works." > >I wish you success! > >Cordially yours, > >Young Snodgrass >snodgrass933@hotmail.com > >_________________________________________________________________ >On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to >get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.1 - Release Date: 5/2/2005

If you have Window XP Home: Click Start- Control Panel (If it is in Classic View) -System Then in the System Properties box click the Hardware tab. Then click on Device Manager. In the Device Manager box find your CD drive (it might take a bit of searching) and highlight it. From the menu bar at the top click on Action. From the drop-down menu choose Properties. In the Properties box for the CD drive click on the Driver tab. From here you can Uninstall. Then when you reboot the computer it should be automatically recognized by the computer I think and automatically reinstalled. If you have a different version of Windows maybe someone else can lead you through it. Joan A. >Dear Joan, > > > Did you try uninstalling and reinstalling the driver for the CD drive? > > >No I didn't. Is it something simple? how do I do it please? > >Thank you very much for trying to help. > >All the best, >Jenny. > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.1 - Release Date: 5/2/2005

When I opened up the computer this morning, I noticed a new Icon on the desk top. I have no idea how it got there. When I clicked on it the window that opened said HS_ERR_PID3284-NOTEPAD. I closed the window and sent the icon to the recycle bin. I have Windows XP and connected to hi-speed cable. Should I be concerned about this? Roy Mississauga - Canada Roy French Mississauga - Canada