I have had the same thing happen, always names I have never heard of and not in my address book, I have been told they are viruses so just don't open them, get rid of them as fast as you can. Helen

While I was writing the e-mail to send you, another one has arrived in my inbox. It's from webmaster@wideopenwest.com...subject: passwords. Other than deleting is there something else we can do? Tallygators <tallygators@earthlink.net> wrote: Below is an email I received. Note the address is to patrickthayer@earthlink.net which is not 'me'. There were two attachments (which I deleted). I have received 7 or 8 of these in the past week (all with attachments). Some were addressed to me, some to other people. All were not from the same place. I am presuming this is spam - anyone else have a better idea? Floreda -----Original Message----- From: postmaster@sprynet.com [mailto:postmaster@sprynet.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:20 AM To: patrickthayer@earthlink.net Subject: Your email was blocked ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ VIRUS BLOCKER MESSAGE STATUS ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Virus successfully cleaned out of attachment(s): No attachments are in this category. + Attachment(s) deleted due to virus: 1. error-mail_info.zip/Winzipped-Text_Data.txt .pif: W32.Sober.O@mm +++++++++++++++++++ Powered by Symantec +++++++++++++++++++ ------------ Original message text follows ------------ ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== To leave the list, click here and send: mailto:SENIOR-NEWBIE-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe To leave the DIGEST, click here and send: mailto:SENIOR-NEWBIE-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!

I have been asked this question many times Marilyn & my answer in short is HISTORY. What would we do without it? & without the ordinary person. the famous wouldn't be so. This is our little bit of fame or infamy. & who we are. It certainly wasn't Nelson, that won the battles but the men he commanded! as was the case with all our hero's Etc. It wasn't Stephenson that built the rocket. but his tradesmen. and so it goes. It's about how or ancestors, lived & died. what kind of work they did. who they married. in short better then any novel as it is ours. Regards Arthur ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Bess" <bess@penn.com> To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:24 AM Subject: [SR-NEWBIE] Reasons for research I have been asked by a person who is writing a genealogy lessons for her class, why do people research? She wants imput other than from a religious point of view. She would like to step outside of her world and find out why the rest of us research our families. She also had question on how computer literate the average person is. How about the rest of your family and friends? Most of mine other than my chidlren could care less. Thank you Marilyn ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Tally: Did these e-mails have as their subject: something about you've registered at this site...or your password information...etc.?The first one I received this week, I opened but had the sense to not open the attachments. Since the first one, I'll had a few more always from different companies....but subject lines saying similar things. Suspicioun set in, and I've deleted them since the first. Is this what is happening to U? Vicki JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 5/4/2005 10:54:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, tallygators@earthlink.net writes: Below is an email I received. Note the address is to patrickthayer@earthlink.net which is not 'me'. There were two attachments (which I deleted). I have received 7 or 8 of these in the past week (all with attachments). Some were addressed to me, some to other people. All were not from the same place. I am presuming this is spam - anyone else have a better idea? Floreda Floreda- These emails/attachments are infected with the new version of the sober worm and sent out forging your address as the sender. The virus takes addresses found on the infected computer and sends them to everyone else whose address is found on the infected computer. What you are getting here is the bounces because the ISP on the receiving end found and deleted the virus: + Attachment(s) deleted due to virus: 1. error-mail_info.zip/Winzipped-Text_Data.txt .pif: W32.S*ob*er.O@mm Just delete these and forget them. Note I munged the virus name above as one clueless ISP of a subscriber to this list blocked the original list message you sent saying IT was infected because the name of this virus was found in the email. Duh! Joan ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== The focus of this list is on helping Seniors to learn to use computers and the Internet. Tolerance and patience are the watchwords. For help with genealogical research methods and procedures, join ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS. Click and send: mailto:ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!

Below is an email I received. Note the address is to patrickthayer@earthlink.net which is not 'me'. There were two attachments (which I deleted). I have received 7 or 8 of these in the past week (all with attachments). Some were addressed to me, some to other people. All were not from the same place. I am presuming this is spam - anyone else have a better idea? Floreda -----Original Message----- From: postmaster@sprynet.com [mailto:postmaster@sprynet.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:20 AM To: patrickthayer@earthlink.net Subject: Your email was blocked ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ VIRUS BLOCKER MESSAGE STATUS ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Virus successfully cleaned out of attachment(s): No attachments are in this category. + Attachment(s) deleted due to virus: 1. error-mail_info.zip/Winzipped-Text_Data.txt .pif: W32.Sober.O@mm +++++++++++++++++++ Powered by Symantec +++++++++++++++++++ ------------ Original message text follows ------------

Helen, It's possible your address book is set to keep all addresses, that you reply to... to check on this: in OE >Tools > Options... on Option's send tab..if "Automatically put people I reply to, in my address Book" is checked, UNcheck it... For anything else, I guess you'd just delete it as you come to it... they just say something dumb, anyway... but, if they are a virus, you sure don't want it... PAX & good luck! NancyT ----- Original Message ----- From: "helen ware" <helenware@comcast.net> To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [SR-NEWBIE] FW: Your email was blocked I have had the same thing happen, always names I have never heard of and not in my address book, I have been told they are viruses so just don't open them, get rid of them as fast as you can. Helen ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== The focus of this list is on helping Seniors to learn to use computers and the Internet. Tolerance and patience are the watchwords. For help in genealogical research methods and procedures, join ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS. Click and send: mailto:ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Hello Nancy, Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 8:00:49 PM, you wrote: NT> Barry, NT> Some questions about your post, if you don't mind.... NT> 1---what's this download you were talking about? It's a program that allows the user to reset the waste ink counter on Epson printers. When the counter reaches a certain value the printer will cease to function - you are supposed to have the waste ink sponge replaced though it may well be long away from needing it. Some folks take the sponge out and wash it apparently, but that does mean taking the printer apart somewhat !! BTW - Canon printers use a sequence of button presses to do the same job but it varies according to the printer, with some having little or no indication you've pressed the buttons in the right order <lol> NT> 2---I have a Canon i550 Inkjet.... 4 tanks...What exactly do you NT> mean by "3rd party inks"? Inks not made or endorsed by Canon. These tend to be quite a lot cheaper than the 'branded' ones and although the printer makers will tell you that anything else will cause your printer to malfunction, in practice this doesn't happen and these lower cost inks work just as well as the originals. Whether or not you go for these is a matter of personal choice but we've used these low cost ones on our Epson's for years without any ill effects. NT> 3---please tell me a bit more about your Epson R200.... my i550 NT> does quite well on photos... (I have discovered, however, that NT> most any printer does a FAR better job when you use photo paper... NT> I like the Glossy stuff.... I think it looks more like a "real" NT> photo!! Using better quality paper does make a big difference to the print, even if not printing photo's <lol> The R200 has performed great since we got it - even printing some old postcards we scanned better than the original ! CD printing was a bit hit-and-miss until we realised that the tray needed to be pulled through quite a long way and stuck out at the back ... it was being stopped by hitting the PC sat behind and the print job cancelled with an error. Once that was clear it did a grand job of printing direct to the CD top ( using a special type of CD of course, by they aren't much dearer than normal ones ). No good for doing many CD's - each one takes a while to do - but the end results are worth the wait. HTH :-) -- Best regards, Barry mailto:barry@yobunny.co.uk MicroSoft Free Zone running Xandros 2.0 Deluxe

Hello Nancy, Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 7:43:11 PM, you wrote: NT> I think the separate tanks give a sharper color... and the black NT> just seems to be a "blacker" black.... I know for a fact, that the NT> 4-tank ink supply is gonna be a Major consideration when this one NT> hits replacement time! Yep - separate ink tanks for the colours is definitely a plus point no matter what make of printer you go for. There is of course a minor downside to this ( as ever ) - if you have a 6 tank printer it won't work at all if one of them is out ... so if you've run out of yellow you still can't print a page of black text. Having said that, I think the plus side of knowing you aren't going to be forced to throw away some of that colour ink just because one of them runs low outweighs the need to have a full set of inks to hand :-) BTW - did anyone realize that ink tanks have a 'Use by' date too ? So it's no use stocking up on loads of them cheaply if you don't plan on using them quickly. After a while being stored too long in the drawer the chances are they won't work when you fit them !! -- Best regards, Barry mailto:barry@yobunny.co.uk MicroSoft Free Zone running Xandros 2.0 Deluxe

In a message dated 5/3/2005 10:10:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, richardpence@pipeline.com writes: Vicki, this was attached at the bottom of the message you sent: > ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== > The focus of this list is on helping Seniors to learn to use computers and the Internet. Tolerance and patience are the watchwords. For help in genealogical research methods and procedures, join ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS. Click and send: > mailto:ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe ---- Yes--Richard's got the answer--this list is for computer and Internet help and the sister list for genealogical research issues. Thanks! Joan

Vicki Billings <skarlettebill@yahoo.com> wrote: > Joan: I'd like to make sure I'm understanding. You want any genealogy > research discussion to be at the Rockingchair site? What about this > site...what kind of things can be discussed? Vicki, this was attached at the bottom of the message you sent: > ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== > The focus of this list is on helping Seniors to learn to use computers and the Internet. Tolerance and patience are the watchwords. For help in genealogical research methods and procedures, join ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS. Click and send: > mailto:ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe

I do know....by woeful experience.... that ink does dry up....and it dries up in the printer if you don't use it regularly.... Thanks, NancyT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" <barry@yobunny.co.uk> To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 5:27 PM Subject: Re[2]: [SR-NEWBIE] Printer Problems Hello Nancy, Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 7:43:11 PM, you wrote: NT> I think the separate tanks give a sharper color... and the black NT> just seems to be a "blacker" black.... I know for a fact, that the NT> 4-tank ink supply is gonna be a Major consideration when this one NT> hits replacement time! Yep - separate ink tanks for the colours is definitely a plus point no matter what make of printer you go for. There is of course a minor downside to this ( as ever ) - if you have a 6 tank printer it won't work at all if one of them is out ... so if you've run out of yellow you still can't print a page of black text. Having said that, I think the plus side of knowing you aren't going to be forced to throw away some of that colour ink just because one of them runs low outweighs the need to have a full set of inks to hand :-) BTW - did anyone realize that ink tanks have a 'Use by' date too ? So it's no use stocking up on loads of them cheaply if you don't plan on using them quickly. After a while being stored too long in the drawer the chances are they won't work when you fit them !! -- Best regards, Barry mailto:barry@yobunny.co.uk MicroSoft Free Zone running Xandros 2.0 Deluxe ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== The focus of this list is on helping Seniors to learn to use computers and the Internet. Tolerance and patience are the watchwords. For help with genealogical research methods and procedures, join ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS. Click and send: mailto:ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Thanks, much, Barry, Your printer sounds great!!! PAX NancyT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" <barry@yobunny.co.uk> To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 5:45 PM Subject: Re[4]: [SR-NEWBIE] Printer Problems Hello Nancy, Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 8:00:49 PM, you wrote: NT> Barry, NT> Some questions about your post, if you don't mind.... NT> 1---what's this download you were talking about? It's a program that allows the user to reset the waste ink counter on Epson printers. When the counter reaches a certain value the printer will cease to function - you are supposed to have the waste ink sponge replaced though it may well be long away from needing it. Some folks take the sponge out and wash it apparently, but that does mean taking the printer apart somewhat !! BTW - Canon printers use a sequence of button presses to do the same job but it varies according to the printer, with some having little or no indication you've pressed the buttons in the right order <lol> NT> 2---I have a Canon i550 Inkjet.... 4 tanks...What exactly do you NT> mean by "3rd party inks"? Inks not made or endorsed by Canon. These tend to be quite a lot cheaper than the 'branded' ones and although the printer makers will tell you that anything else will cause your printer to malfunction, in practice this doesn't happen and these lower cost inks work just as well as the originals. Whether or not you go for these is a matter of personal choice but we've used these low cost ones on our Epson's for years without any ill effects. NT> 3---please tell me a bit more about your Epson R200.... my i550 NT> does quite well on photos... (I have discovered, however, that NT> most any printer does a FAR better job when you use photo paper... NT> I like the Glossy stuff.... I think it looks more like a "real" NT> photo!! Using better quality paper does make a big difference to the print, even if not printing photo's <lol> The R200 has performed great since we got it - even printing some old postcards we scanned better than the original ! CD printing was a bit hit-and-miss until we realised that the tray needed to be pulled through quite a long way and stuck out at the back ... it was being stopped by hitting the PC sat behind and the print job cancelled with an error. Once that was clear it did a grand job of printing direct to the CD top ( using a special type of CD of course, by they aren't much dearer than normal ones ). No good for doing many CD's - each one takes a while to do - but the end results are worth the wait. HTH :-) -- Best regards, Barry mailto:barry@yobunny.co.uk MicroSoft Free Zone running Xandros 2.0 Deluxe ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

I am sorry that I sent my message to the wrong list . Thanks for your forgiveness. Marilyn

I do feel like such the dummy!!! It says all I need to know at the bottom. My apologies are extended to all. Vicki Richard Pence <richardpence@pipeline.com> wrote: Vicki Billings wrote: > Joan: I'd like to make sure I'm understanding. You want any genealogy > research discussion to be at the Rockingchair site? What about this > site...what kind of things can be discussed? Vicki, this was attached at the bottom of the message you sent: > ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== > The focus of this list is on helping Seniors to learn to use computers and the Internet. Tolerance and patience are the watchwords. For help in genealogical research methods and procedures, join ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS. Click and send: > mailto:ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== To search the archives for this list go here: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and type in SENIOR-NEWBIE ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

To fulfill a need I have to know as much as I can about the family that came before me...who's blood is running in my veins. Two of my cousins are also interested in our roots. One is working on a different branch of our family...the other just likes knowing about our past. My three children are really not interested. Two of my children are older than I was when this burning fire began inside me. With my youngest, there may be some hope. She might...just might get bitten by the bug. Vicki Marilyn Bess <bess@penn.com> wrote: I have been asked by a person who is writing a genealogy lessons for her class, why do people research? She wants imput other than from a religious point of view. She would like to step outside of her world and find out why the rest of us research our families. She also had question on how computer literate the average person is. How about the rest of your family and friends? Most of mine other than my chidlren could care less. Thank you Marilyn ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Joan: I'd like to make sure I'm understanding. You want any genealogy research discussion to be at the Rockingchair site? What about this site...what kind of things can be discussed? Vicki JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: Please let's move the genealogy research discussion over to the sister list ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L. Thanks! Joan, admin ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== The focus of this list is on helping Seniors to learn to use computers and the Internet. Tolerance and patience are the watchwords. For help in genealogical research methods and procedures, join ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS. Click and send: mailto:ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Please let's move the genealogy research discussion over to the sister list ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L. Thanks! Joan, admin

I became interested in my family history because my cousins were planning a first-ever reunion, and I thought it would be nice to compile what an uncle had begun many years before, before the age of computers. I used a cousin's computer and the very first version of Family Tree Maker because that is what he had. I sorted through letters to and from aunts and uncles and cousins and gleaned information for 6 generations back. I learned to use a computer because of the desire to use FTM. I continued to research because I wanted to know more about the people whose genes I carry. It was FUN, like putting the pieces of a puzzle together or solving a mystery. I am who I am because of the people who came before me, and I like feeling like I can know them through research. No one else in my generation of my family has been as obsessed as I have in researching, but that's okay. It is my job in my family to leave the information I have collected for the next generations. Some one, some day will pick up the torch and carry on. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005

I got started with genealogy by a grandson who had a school project to do. This set the bug in me. Many family members are curious but do not want to do the work. I also know of some that so it resulting from and inherited disease. My husband has a non critical hand disease that per the doctor shows up mainly in men who ancestors came from Northern Europe. Joan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharyn Hay" <storknurse7@earthlink.net> To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [SR-NEWBIE] Reasons for research > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marilyn Bess" <bess@penn.com> > To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 8:54 AM > Subject: [SR-NEWBIE] Reasons for research > > >> I have been asked by a person who is writing a genealogy lessons for her >> class, why do people research? She wants imput other than from a >> religious >> point of view. She would like to step outside of her world and find out >> why >> the rest of us research our families. She also had question on how >> computer >> literate the average person is. How about the rest of your family and >> friends? Most of mine other than my chidlren could care less. Thank you >> Marilyn >> > > Since this is a computer list, rather then a genealogy list, I'll only > address the > computer question. The research question could perhaps be discussed on > the Rocking-Chair-Roots-L. > > I lead a Genealogy Roundtable discussion group for our local genealogical > society. I find that the majority of the group, over half of whom are > newbies, > use the computer for email and can manage a basic genealogy program. By > the time they've been doing genealogy for a year or so they have fairly > good > computer skills and can use search engines and message boards. This is > true > no matter what their ages. Just about every senior center has computer > classes > and many have classes in genealogical computing. The most popular > discussion > topics all are about using the computer to organize research, search > strategies, > software programs, and favorite URLs for online data. So, here in Southern > CA, I'd have to say the average "hobby" genealogist who started within the > past > 15 years tends to be moderately computer literate. > > Regards, > Sharyn > > > > ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== > To leave the list, click here and send: > mailto:SENIOR-NEWBIE-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > To leave the DIGEST, click here and send: > mailto:SENIOR-NEWBIE-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >