Thanks to each of you who replied to my question about the Logitech Optical Mouse. I have uninstalled the mouse and the keyboard, and tomorrow they will go back to the store. Once they were uninstalled, the Start Menu came back as before and things are OK again. Thanks again.

In a message dated 5/16/2005 5:03:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, JYoung6180@aol.com writes: My solution to the problem--heck, I had assumed that SAVED ON MY PC meant exactly that--not that AOL was going to later decide to delete my saved files from my own computer--was to store mail I want to permanently save in a different folder. I did, too! I had all these things saved on my PC, (filing cabinet) in different folders, named specifically for the type of information. As I got time, I removed it and worked with it--moved it to my web sites. I don't have a New Saved Mail folder--is this the same as the Incoming/Saved Mail folder?

Good evening. I need some help with burning a re-writeable back-up CD of my genealogy records. I'm using HP Pavilion 7955 with HP cd-writer drive. I have Windows XP. I've burned some at 2x speed and some at 4x. At first, I tried Memorex brand CD-RWs. They wouldn't burn at all. The Windows "Help" section said if a certain brand didn't work, try a different brand. Now I'm using Imation brand CD-RWs. These burn successfully, but give me a "Read-Only" file. Obviously, I'm not able to use it to alter or add to my genealogy records. Maybe I just don't understand this whole thing, but I thought the reason to back up your genealogy was so you'd have the file from your back-up CD to make entries into in case your hard drive crashed. If I can only get a "Read-Only" file, then there's not much use to have a back-up CD ... is there? What might I be doing wrong? Or is it possible my CD-RW drive is damaged? If it is, I have no idea how that might have occurred ... my husband and I are the only ones who've used this PC. But I guess the question would be what to do about it if it is damaged. I'd appreciate it very much if someone could possibly explain what's going on, and give me some help in getting a re-writable back-up CD. Thanks very much, Grace In God we trust.

Very interesting. I'm beginning to think I need a new computer to go with the new mouse! Now I have a MAJOR problem and hope someone can help. I went to Add/Remove Programs and removed the Logitech Mouse (which didn't work anyway) and the music program that came with this keyboard, because it seemed to distort the sound on my computer. Now when I click on the Start button, there is NOTHING there except My Computer. All my Programs, Favorites and everything else in the Start list have disappeared. Can someone please help me? > I had a similar problem just recently with a Logitech Optical Mouse. In > my case it would only work when using the USB connection. I couldn't > get it to work using the USB adaptor. I gave in and quit using the > adaptor and just tied up a USB port. > > You may have a different situation I just found it iteresting that the > both of our problems concern a Logitech Optical Mouse. > > Joan Asche > > > I bought a new Logitech keyboard and Optical Mouse. The keyboard > > installed OK, but I cannot install the mouse and had to go back to > > using the old one. I've run the software several times and it appears > > to be installed, but when the computer re-starts, the window comes up > > saying it cannot detect a mouse. > > > > I did have to buy an adapter to use the new mouse on my computer. > > Would that have anything to do with not being able to install? I've > > checked several times, and the adapter is tight, etc. > >

The version I use is the PRO version, Nancy. This is because the PRO version will handle any number of email accounts from any service. The free version, which is identical in every other aspect only allows one account to be used. I use it with my ISP on my main account for personal mail. I use it with GMail as GMail allows POP service through Outlook. I also use it with Yahoo Mail as I use YPOPs to download and send mail through Outlook. And I also use it with Hotmail using Hotmail Poppers. That way I know just which service spam has arrived at and can deal with it which ever way I choose. Mailwasher: http://entier.ecosm.com/system/redir.php?ad=15&aid=2359 YPOPs: http://yahoopops.sourceforge.net/ Hotmail Popper: http://www.fitsoftware.com/ Lance P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program can be downloaded FREE at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=52583ii -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Tollefson [mailto:mamat@gvtel.com] Sent: Tuesday, 17 May 2005 2:32 PM To: SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SR-NEWBIE] Dealing with Spam (was ISP) Lance, Which version of "Mailwasher" do you have..? Thanks, NancyT

I had a similar problem just recently with a Logitech Optical Mouse. In my case it would only work when using the USB connection. I couldn't get it to work using the USB adaptor. I gave in and quit using the adaptor and just tied up a USB port. You may have a different situation I just found it iteresting that the both of our problems concern a Logitech Optical Mouse. Joan Asche RJB wrote on 05/17/2005, 3:37 PM: > I bought a new Logitech keyboard and Optical Mouse. The keyboard > installed OK, but I cannot install the mouse and had to go back to > using the old one. I've run the software several times and it appears > to be installed, but when the computer re-starts, the window comes up > saying it cannot detect a mouse. > > I did have to buy an adapter to use the new mouse on my computer. > Would that have anything to do with not being able to install? I've > checked several times, and the adapter is tight, etc. > > If anyone has any suggestions, I would certainly appreciate any help. > Thanks > > > ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== > To find and join surname and location genealogy lists at RootsWeb go > here: http://lists.rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

I bought a new Logitech keyboard and Optical Mouse. The keyboard installed OK, but I cannot install the mouse and had to go back to using the old one. I've run the software several times and it appears to be installed, but when the computer re-starts, the window comes up saying it cannot detect a mouse. I did have to buy an adapter to use the new mouse on my computer. Would that have anything to do with not being able to install? I've checked several times, and the adapter is tight, etc. If anyone has any suggestions, I would certainly appreciate any help. Thanks

In a message dated 5/17/2005 10:55:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time, JYoung6180@aol.com writes: Sure-but you would need to open the contents of that CD from within AOL in order to read the files you saved there....although it is a bit more complex than that. This is another thing that Sharon once explained on the AOLers list if you want to check in the archives for this topic. It actually depends on the format in which you save the messages in the filing cabinet whether they need to be opened within AOL or not. Joan ------- OK, thanks, Joan. There's another thing to add to my "To Do List". Velma

In a message dated 5/17/2005 11:51:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, Vrgfdonna@aol.com writes: I understand, Joan. That's hard for me to keep straight. Can't you just make a CD of your Personal Filing Cabinet? Velma --- Sure-but you would need to open the contents of that CD from within AOL in order to read the files you saved there....although it is a bit more complex than that. This is another thing that Sharon once explained on the AOLers list if you want to check in the archives for this topic. It actually depends on the format in which you save the messages in the filing cabinet whether they need to be opened within AOL or not. Joan

In a message dated 5/16/2005 10:12:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, JYoung6180@aol.com writes: No--because your personal filing cabinet is on your computer's hard drive--not on AOL's server. Joan ------ I understand, Joan. That's hard for me to keep straight. Can't you just make a CD of your Personal Filing Cabinet? Velma

In a message dated 5/17/2005 7:43:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, mamat@gvtel.com writes: Joan, Perhaps.... I think I am too much of a raging independent to like having things done to me or my stuff that I don't know about!! And I don't use Windows Messenger.... Guess I'll stick with what I've got.... PAX NancyT --- There actually IS a moral issue here but I can see both sides of what AOL did in this case. AOL also has a responsibility to its subscribers, and the complaints were so numerous, and the security risk was fairly high. It is actually an interesting issue--the good of society vs. the rights of the individual. <g> It wasn't something that affected me personally in that I'd shut off Windows Messenger myself long before AOL did it for everyone else. Joan

In a message dated 5/17/2005 10:44:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, skarlettebill@yahoo.com writes: Joan: I tried using the link you sent to access RootsWeb. It won't work. Will you please send it to me again? Vicki --- Here is a different link to the same message in the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/AOLers-RootsWeb/2004-02/1076296633 This one will probably stay on one line and make it easier to access. Joan

In a message dated 5/17/2005 10:54:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, skarlettebill@yahoo.com writes: Joan: I've tried to find an AOL email address to write my complaints to them. Do you know an address that's used for this? Vicki Vicki- To contact AOL about any issues you have with the software or to suggest enhancements, go to keyword: TELL US. Joan

Richard: it doesn't seem to be true AOL will keep your emails as long as you want. In doing some investigating after lots of mine were lost, I discovered AOL will only keep any email in the mailbox for 27 days...read or unread. Im having a love/hate relationship with them. Vicki Nancy Tollefson <mamat@gvtel.com> wrote: Richard, I'd guess my ISP goes yours one better... I could keep a message there in my inbox for as long as I wanted to... and I like it that way.... Nancyt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Pence" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 12:47 AM Subject: Re: Re[2]: [SR-NEWBIE] Updating Adaware/New Problem Nancy Tollefson wrote: > Hmmmmm.... Joan, > > Apparently, AOL regards YOUR PC, as THEIR PC, and they can do whatever they want with > YOUR stuff!! > > Another reason to be very grateful NOT to have AOL!!!! I'm not sure AOL is doing what you think it is with respect to a subscriber's message. I have never been on AOL, but in reading this thread and other information (and having set up my account elsewhere), I believe each user can set the options he or she wishes, including how long messages of various kinds are kept. You also have the option of having the messages stored at AOL or you can download to your own computer AT YOUR OPTION. If I read this thread correctly - and I may not have - if you choose to download the messages and keep them on your own disk, then AOL will also keep them, but only for a specified time. This is better than what I have, because once I go to my mailbox on line and read them, or once I have the messages sent to my computer, my ISP then immediately deletes them. I am responsible for saving them from then on. Richard ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== The focus of this list is on helping Seniors to learn to use computers and the Internet. Tolerance and patience are the watchwords. For help in genealogical research methods and procedures, join ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS. Click and send: mailto:ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== For Newbie help with computers and genealogy see: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~besley/newbie.htm ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!

Joan: AOL does delete unread e-mails from the mailbox is they are more than 27 days old. Sounds like they're overstepping their boundaries IMO. Having said that, I want to make sure I'm saving to the right folder. This morning when I had an email I wanted to save, after looking at the drop down list, I chose to save it to AOL....is this correct? Vicki JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 5/16/2005 10:29:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, skarlettebill@yahoo.com writes: Aha!!! I think I now know what caused the AOL e-mail system to change. Until maybe September or the first part of October, I had AOL 8.0. At that time I decided to download 9.0. Is this one of the differences in the two programs? If it is, I'm deleting 9.0 and going back to 8.0. --- I never had this happen until upgrading to 9.0--but the work-around (since there are so many useful enhancements in 9.0 over 8.0) is to merely store your saved mail in a folder other than the default NEW SAVED MAIL folder. That seems to be the only folder they will delete mail from. Joan ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== The focus of this list is on helping Seniors to learn to use computers and the Internet. Tolerance and patience are the watchwords. For help in genealogical research methods and procedures, join ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS. Click and send: mailto:ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.

Vicki, with your Yahoo account, you have several options available to you to deal with spam as well as clicking on the SPAM button after you have selected a message. When you have the Yahoo Mail screen open, click on MAIL OPTIONS up there on the right hand side. When the Mail Options page opens there are four links under the SPAM heading. Check each of those out and you will see this enables you to do many things to even further reduce the spam coming in. Read the information on the Anti-spam Resource centre page first as it will give you some help in setting up your filters, black list etc. Lance P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program can be downloaded FREE at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=52583ii -----Original Message----- From: V Billings [mailto:skarlettebill@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, 16 May 2005 10:36 PM To: SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SR-NEWBIE] ISP Lance: At this time, I do also have an aol account. I started doing as you've said...clicking on the spam button. I didn't know if doing this really would alert Yahoo. Now I know that it is. This should slow it down. I'm one of the lucky ones...only getting 3, 4, or 5 a day. Some have said they're getting up to 20. So far, in my case, Yahoo hasn't caught any of them.

Yes, it is called the "DELETE" button Nancy <LOL>! Seriously though once spam has reached your OE, it is on your computer, the sender knows your address is a "real" one and as a consequence their server will send you more and more spam. Even worse, if the spam contains adware, trojans or viruses say no more - it's arrived. That is why it is necessary to intercept all your mail before downloading into OE from your ISP. Programs like Mailwasher allow you to do just that. Mailwasher will allow you to identify messages you WANT from the messages you DON'T want. It will also indicate which ones contain attachments. And once it is setup as you want it, many of those tasks will be done automatically without any intervention on your part. I have many addresses in my "blacklist" in Mailwasher. I also have many filters setup. Any of the messages coming in that fall into those categories Mailwasher deals with. I don't have to worry about them at all. Saves heaps of time, I can assure you: http://entier.ecosm.com/system/redir.php?ad=15&aid=2359 The other necessary step is to use web mail services for subscribing to lists and newsletters. The majority of spam most of us receive is generated purely by the fact we subscribe to lists such as Roots Web. If you use a web mail address for these lists, and spam becomes too much of a problem, just change the address to a new account and eventually close the other. Most of the major web mail services now have excellent spam filters in place so they nab them and move them into the Junk folder which will get emptied after a certain period of time (even if you don't look at the messages). So by using those services, the majority of spam is caught, leaving only an odd one or two for you to report as spam and let the service to deal with it. Lance P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program can be downloaded FREE at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=52583ii -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Tollefson [mailto:mamat@gvtel.com] Sent: Tuesday, 17 May 2005 6:52 AM To: SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SR-NEWBIE] ISP Um...Lance... I use OE6, is there a similar method there for getting rid of this "stuff"? There is, of course, no button labeled "spam" I can't always tell, just by the listing.... Thanks.... NancyT

Hello JYoung6180, Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 6:26:16 AM, you wrote: Jac> So AOL made the decision to shut off Windows Messenger on all AOLers' Jac> computers without telling them. Even MicroSoft now ship WinXP with Windows Messenger turned off by default as the problem of these pop-ups was too difficult to solve and it was really annoying a lot of users as it bypassed all security - of course the reason that spammers hooked onto the idea <lol> -- Best regards, Barry mailto:barry@yobunny.co.uk MicroSoft Free Zone running Xandros 2.0 Deluxe

Joan: I've tried to find an AOL email address to write my complaints to them. Do you know an address that's used for this? Vicki JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 5/17/2005 12:03:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, mamat@gvtel.com writes: Hmmmmm.... Joan, Apparently, AOL regards YOUR PC, as THEIR PC, and they can do whatever they want with YOUR stuff!! Another reason to be very grateful NOT to have AOL!!!! PAX NancyT --- Nancy- I think what they decided in this case (and I'm not saying I agree with it) is that their users didn't know enough to know what they wanted to do and this change was AOL second guessing that their subscribers really didn't want to SAVE the mail forever. There is no denying that they cater to novice users. I think the change probably resulted from complaints about stored mail taking up computer space. Anyway, there is an easy way around the problem for those who really DO want to save their mail. Joan ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== To find and join surname and location genealogy lists at RootsWeb go here: http://lists.rootsweb.com ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour

Nancy: I agree with you. Me thinks they're getting a little too big for their britches. But do I cancel....nooooooooooo!! I'm hooked. Now I only use AOL for one group I'm a part of, but there's a chat group I would miss if I did leave. Joan: I tried using the link you sent to access RootsWeb. It won't work. Will you please send it to me again? Vicki Nancy Tollefson <mamat@gvtel.com> wrote: Hmmmmm.... Joan, Apparently, AOL regards YOUR PC, as THEIR PC, and they can do whatever they want with YOUR stuff!! Another reason to be very grateful NOT to have AOL!!!! PAX NancyT the only change is that they now sometimes delete mail you chose to save to your PC and store in your personal filing cabinet in the NEW SAVED MAIL folder. Joan ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== The focus of this list is on helping Seniors to learn to use computers and the Internet. Tolerance and patience are the watchwords. For help in genealogical research methods and procedures, join ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS. Click and send: mailto:ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== To view or submit a GEDCOM, go here: http://wc.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour