In Windows XP Home, When you put your CD in the drive and open it , you then select the file or files you want to move to your computer, to edit ,and on the left of the window you will see "Copy this or these files" click on this and then choose the folder you want to copy into, this will not move the original file that is on the CD. On the file that is now in your computer fight click on the file and the clock on Properties at the bottom you will see a Read Only square make sure that this is not checked if it is remove the check mark --John John from West Aus ----- Original Message ----- From: "walsie" <walsie@cableone.net> To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [SR-NEWBIE] Back-up CD Where do you copy back to your computer on Read only? Walsie John Warnock wrote: >Hi Grace--From what I understand when you burn a CD whether it is a CDRW or >any other, the info on that CD is a Read Only or in other words the info is >fixed. If you want to alter any of this info you must copy back to your >Computer then in properties untick the read only square, after doing your >alterations you must then burn another CD or erase the original RW and >reburn the latest file. Hope you can understand this. It is easier to do >than to try & explain --Regards John >John from West Aus >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Grace Inman" <Grace@eufaula.rr.com> >To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 7:19 AM >Subject: [SR-NEWBIE] Back-up CD > > >Good evening. I need some help with burning a re-writeable back-up CD of >my >genealogy records. > >I'm using HP Pavilion 7955 with HP cd-writer drive. I have Windows XP. >I've burned some at 2x speed and some at 4x. > >At first, I tried Memorex brand CD-RWs. They wouldn't burn at all. The >Windows "Help" section said if a certain brand didn't work, try a different >brand. > >Now I'm using Imation brand CD-RWs. These burn successfully, but give me a >"Read-Only" file. Obviously, I'm not able to use it to alter or add to my >genealogy records. > >Maybe I just don't understand this whole thing, but I thought the reason to >back up your genealogy was so you'd have the file from your back-up CD to >make entries into in case your hard drive crashed. > >If I can only get a "Read-Only" file, then there's not much use to have a >back-up CD ... is there? > >What might I be doing wrong? Or is it possible my CD-RW drive is damaged? >If it is, I have no idea how that might have occurred ... my husband and I >are the only ones who've used this PC. But I guess the question would be >what to do about it if it is damaged. > >I'd appreciate it very much if someone could possibly explain what's going >on, and give me some help in getting a re-writable back-up CD. > >Thanks very much, >Grace > >In God we trust. > > >==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== >To find and join surname and location genealogy lists at RootsWeb go here: >http://lists.rootsweb.com > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > >==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== >Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing >lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, >start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== To view or submit a GEDCOM, go here: http://wc.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

In a message dated 5/18/2005 9:03:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, skarlettebill@yahoo.com writes: Now what...this is getting to be a little more than annoying. My personal addresses are being used to send their propoganda. Vicki- What you are probably seeing is the fallout from this new version of the Sober worm. The worm infected computers and the infected computers are being used by the worm as zombie machines to send out tons of right-wing German spam/propaganda. Like most other worms, this one is using addresses it finds on the infected computers and forging the sender addresses--which could be yours. When the spam gets intercepted and returned by ISPs on the receiving end or because the addresses it is sent to are invalid and the spam bounces--it comes to you as the forged sender. This should die down as the infected computers are found and the worm cleaned from the machines--but it sure is a nuisance in the meantime. Also, ISPs are starting to add this garbage to their filters which should be helping in the future. Joan

Hi Grace--From what I understand when you burn a CD whether it is a CDRW or any other, the info on that CD is a Read Only or in other words the info is fixed. If you want to alter any of this info you must copy back to your Computer then in properties untick the read only square, after doing your alterations you must then burn another CD or erase the original RW and reburn the latest file. Hope you can understand this. It is easier to do than to try & explain --Regards John John from West Aus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grace Inman" <Grace@eufaula.rr.com> To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 7:19 AM Subject: [SR-NEWBIE] Back-up CD Good evening. I need some help with burning a re-writeable back-up CD of my genealogy records. I'm using HP Pavilion 7955 with HP cd-writer drive. I have Windows XP. I've burned some at 2x speed and some at 4x. At first, I tried Memorex brand CD-RWs. They wouldn't burn at all. The Windows "Help" section said if a certain brand didn't work, try a different brand. Now I'm using Imation brand CD-RWs. These burn successfully, but give me a "Read-Only" file. Obviously, I'm not able to use it to alter or add to my genealogy records. Maybe I just don't understand this whole thing, but I thought the reason to back up your genealogy was so you'd have the file from your back-up CD to make entries into in case your hard drive crashed. If I can only get a "Read-Only" file, then there's not much use to have a back-up CD ... is there? What might I be doing wrong? Or is it possible my CD-RW drive is damaged? If it is, I have no idea how that might have occurred ... my husband and I are the only ones who've used this PC. But I guess the question would be what to do about it if it is damaged. I'd appreciate it very much if someone could possibly explain what's going on, and give me some help in getting a re-writable back-up CD. Thanks very much, Grace In God we trust. ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== To find and join surname and location genealogy lists at RootsWeb go here: http://lists.rootsweb.com ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Nope and nothing in the manual saying anything about it. Walt Conner wrote on 05/18/2005, 7:56 AM: > No little tiny red dot the size of a pencil point on the underside? > > Walt Conner > > > Logitech Optical's don't have the button at the bottom. :-) At the new > > one don't. > > > > ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== > Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and > mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. > To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Hi Walt, Could you by any chance be talking about a wireless mouse? Take care - Emma In a message dated 5/18/05 6:57:14 AM Central Daylight Time, wconner@onemain.com writes: << No little tiny red dot the size of a pencil point on the underside? Walt Conner >>

Nancy, there is only one download and it offers a free thirty day trial period for you to use with ALL your mail accounts. It is how you choose to use it AFTER the thirty day trial which determines whether it is free or you have to pay for it. If you use it with only ONE email account it is free and will continue as such after the 30 day trial period finishes. If you wish to continue to use it for ALL addresses you have, it will have to be paid for after the 30 day trial period. Lance P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program can be downloaded FREE at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=52583ii -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Tollefson [mailto:mamat@gvtel.com] Sent: Tuesday, 17 May 2005 9:41 PM To: SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SR-NEWBIE] Dealing with Spam (was ISP) Lance, I don't remember seeing any "free" version on that web site you gave me, but perhaps I didn't look the site over all that good..... Thanks!! NancyT Mailwasher: http://entier.ecosm.com/system/redir.php?ad=15&aid=2359 YPOPs: http://yahoopops.sourceforge.net/ Hotmail Popper: http://www.fitsoftware.com/

Sometimes, when I want to "EDIT" a long message, I'll do the hi-lite-copy-paste thing, and send it to MSWord... there I can edit all I want... and print it out from there.... So....could you not put these messages in a folder and then make a CD of it?. NancyT ----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:55 AM Subject: Re: Re[2]: [SR-NEWBIE] Updating Adaware/New Problem In a message dated 5/17/2005 11:51:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, Vrgfdonna@aol.com writes: I understand, Joan. That's hard for me to keep straight. Can't you just make a CD of your Personal Filing Cabinet? Velma --- Sure-but you would need to open the contents of that CD from within AOL in order to read the files you saved there....although it is a bit more complex than that. This is another thing that Sharon once explained on the AOLers list if you want to check in the archives for this topic. It actually depends on the format in which you save the messages in the filing cabinet whether they need to be opened within AOL or not. Joan ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== To volunteer to do a lookup or to exchange lookups, go here: http://www.RAOGK.org ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Joan, Perhaps Velma understands, but I don't... If your Personal Filing cabinet is on your computer's hard drive...and you can make a CD of your FTM data, which I understand to also be on your hard drive... why can't you make a CD of the contents of your PFC? (I don't have AOL... just curious...) PAX and thanks! NancyT ----- Original Message ----- From: <Vrgfdonna@aol.com> To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:50 AM Subject: Re: Re[2]: [SR-NEWBIE] Updating Adaware/New Problem In a message dated 5/16/2005 10:12:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, JYoung6180@aol.com writes: No--because your personal filing cabinet is on your computer's hard drive--not on AOL's server. Joan ------ I understand, Joan. That's hard for me to keep straight. Can't you just make a CD of your Personal Filing Cabinet? Velma ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Lance, OK..... guess I didn't quite understand that part....I have only this one email account.... I'm the only one who uses this computer...(Husband wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole!! I look up anything he wants to know.....) Again, thanks! NancyT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lance" <lance.b.4u@gmail.com> To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 6:27 PM Subject: RE: [SR-NEWBIE] Dealing with Spam (was ISP) Nancy, there is only one download and it offers a free thirty day trial period for you to use with ALL your mail accounts. It is how you choose to use it AFTER the thirty day trial which determines whether it is free or you have to pay for it. If you use it with only ONE email account it is free and will continue as such after the 30 day trial period finishes. If you wish to continue to use it for ALL addresses you have, it will have to be paid for after the 30 day trial period. Lance P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program can be downloaded FREE at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=52583ii -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Tollefson [mailto:mamat@gvtel.com] Sent: Tuesday, 17 May 2005 9:41 PM To: SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SR-NEWBIE] Dealing with Spam (was ISP) Lance, I don't remember seeing any "free" version on that web site you gave me, but perhaps I didn't look the site over all that good..... Thanks!! NancyT Mailwasher: http://entier.ecosm.com/system/redir.php?ad=15&aid=2359 YPOPs: http://yahoopops.sourceforge.net/ Hotmail Popper: http://www.fitsoftware.com/ ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== To volunteer to do a lookup or to exchange lookups, go here: http://www.RAOGK.org ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Logitech Optical's don't have the button at the bottom. :-) At the new one don't. Walt Conner wrote on 05/17/2005, 10:51 PM: > You did push the little button on the bottom of the Mouse so that it > communicates with the receiver? I have had one for over a year and really > like it. > > Walt Conner > > > Thanks to each of you who replied to my question about the Logitech > Optical Mouse. > > > > ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== > To search the archives for this list go here: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and type in SENIOR-NEWBIE > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

No little tiny red dot the size of a pencil point on the underside? Walt Conner > Logitech Optical's don't have the button at the bottom. :-) At the new > one don't.

Lance: I've done as you suggested....went into my mail preferences. The spam is now being directed into my bulk mail. All but one I received yesterday, which had the e-mail address of someone from a group I am part of. Now what...this is getting to be a little more than annoying. My personal addresses are being used to send their propoganda. Vicki Lance <lance.b.4u@gmail.com> wrote: Vicki, your "ISP" is usually the bit after the "@" in your normal address. You are using Yahoo Mail, as a web mail service, to send and receive, but you would be connecting to the Internet (normally) and Yahoo through your "ISP". Who do you pay your monthly account to for connecting to the Internet? That should have the name, address and contact number/email address for "Support" on it. Lance P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program can be downloaded FREE at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=52583ii -----Original Message----- From: V Billings [mailto:skarlettebill@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, 16 May 2005 9:06 AM To: SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SR-NEWBIE] ISP My ISP...how do I know who I'm using? Once I have the answer to this question, how do I contact my ISP? Vicki --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== The focus of this list is on helping Seniors to learn to use computers and the Internet. Tolerance and patience are the watchwords. For help in genealogical research methods and procedures, join ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS. Click and send: mailto:ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.10 - Release Date: 2005-05-13 ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== The focus of this list is on helping Seniors to learn to use computers and the Internet. Tolerance and patience are the watchwords. For help with genealogical research methods and procedures, join ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS. Click and send: mailto:ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page

Wally: this is a good suggestion. Maybe I never noticed the deleting of e-mail before, but I really don't think it's that old of a procedure. Many times before I had left something in the mailbox, after reading it, for a very long time. Lucky you on the price. While I've had AOL for a long time, when my husband and I combined our accounts, I X'd mine. Then when a problem came about, I resubscribed. Now I pay $23.95. :-( Vicki AntiqHam@aol.com wrote: Howdy. I have a way to keep your messages from going away. Forward then to your Yahoo mail. If you don't have an Yahoo mail, you should certainly have one. This are also FREE. Then if you should lose your computer etc. or you need to get them when your somewhere else, you can just go to your Yahoo mail from the library etc and they are there. AOL has dumped then after 27 days or so for a very long time as I recall. Also if you get too many messages it will quit accepting them. I have AOL but for sure there are some things I do not like about it. I pay $17.95 for unlimited use. I know alot of people are still paying more. I guess I've been with then so long I hate to get another ISP. Wally ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== To volunteer to do a lookup or to exchange lookups, go here: http://www.RAOGK.org ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more. Check it out!

Joan: this link did work. I've just sent you an e-mail asking for the link to be sent again. Cancel that request please. Vicki JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 5/17/2005 10:44:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, skarlettebill@yahoo.com writes: Joan: I tried using the link you sent to access RootsWeb. It won't work. Will you please send it to me again? Vicki --- Here is a different link to the same message in the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/AOLers-RootsWeb/2004-02/1076296633 This one will probably stay on one line and make it easier to access. Joan ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== To volunteer to do a lookup or to exchange lookups, go here: http://www.RAOGK.org ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!

Thanks, Joan. Will you forward me the link to the rootsweb site that you sent b4? The link you sent won't work. It's the one where the mail discussion issue had been discussed. Vicki JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 5/17/2005 10:54:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, skarlettebill@yahoo.com writes: Joan: I've tried to find an AOL email address to write my complaints to them. Do you know an address that's used for this? Vicki Vicki- To contact AOL about any issues you have with the software or to suggest enhancements, go to keyword: TELL US. Joan ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== To find and join surname and location genealogy lists at RootsWeb go here: http://lists.rootsweb.com ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour

----- Original Message ----- From: "Walt Conner" <wconner@onemain.com> To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 4:56 AM Subject: Re: [SR-NEWBIE] Optical Mouse and Start Menu > No little tiny red dot the size of a pencil point on the underside? > > Walt Conner > > > Logitech Optical's don't have the button at the bottom. :-) At the new > > one don't. I also have a Logitech Optical Mouse. No red dot, no button, no hole, and nothing to push. I plugged it in, loaded the software from the CD and have never had a moment's problems with it. However, as usual, I had to disable my Norton Internet Security program before running the software installation. Regards, Sharyn

Thank you for the advise on the CD Walsie

In a message dated 5/17/2005 7:39:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, Orvilmandy@aol.com writes: I don't have a New Saved Mail folder--is this the same as the Incoming/Saved Mail folder? ---- Yes---that is what I meant to say---Incoming Mail Folder Joan

Where do you copy back to your computer on Read only? Walsie John Warnock wrote: >Hi Grace--From what I understand when you burn a CD whether it is a CDRW or >any other, the info on that CD is a Read Only or in other words the info is >fixed. If you want to alter any of this info you must copy back to your >Computer then in properties untick the read only square, after doing your >alterations you must then burn another CD or erase the original RW and >reburn the latest file. Hope you can understand this. It is easier to do >than to try & explain --Regards John >John from West Aus >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Grace Inman" <Grace@eufaula.rr.com> >To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 7:19 AM >Subject: [SR-NEWBIE] Back-up CD > > >Good evening. I need some help with burning a re-writeable back-up CD of my >genealogy records. > >I'm using HP Pavilion 7955 with HP cd-writer drive. I have Windows XP. >I've burned some at 2x speed and some at 4x. > >At first, I tried Memorex brand CD-RWs. They wouldn't burn at all. The >Windows "Help" section said if a certain brand didn't work, try a different >brand. > >Now I'm using Imation brand CD-RWs. These burn successfully, but give me a >"Read-Only" file. Obviously, I'm not able to use it to alter or add to my >genealogy records. > >Maybe I just don't understand this whole thing, but I thought the reason to >back up your genealogy was so you'd have the file from your back-up CD to >make entries into in case your hard drive crashed. > >If I can only get a "Read-Only" file, then there's not much use to have a >back-up CD ... is there? > >What might I be doing wrong? Or is it possible my CD-RW drive is damaged? >If it is, I have no idea how that might have occurred ... my husband and I >are the only ones who've used this PC. But I guess the question would be >what to do about it if it is damaged. > >I'd appreciate it very much if someone could possibly explain what's going >on, and give me some help in getting a re-writable back-up CD. > >Thanks very much, >Grace > >In God we trust. > > >==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== >To find and join surname and location genealogy lists at RootsWeb go here: >http://lists.rootsweb.com > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > >==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== >Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > >

You did push the little button on the bottom of the Mouse so that it communicates with the receiver? I have had one for over a year and really like it. Walt Conner > Thanks to each of you who replied to my question about the Logitech Optical Mouse.