Barry, <a LOT snipped> You wrote.... <Longhorn finally emerges !! Do you happen to know what's gonna be different about "Longhorn"? I get along pretty well with XPHome... have had it a couple of years... was on this computer when I got it... (where on earth did they come up with a name like "Longhorn"?.....sounds like some Texas Steer!) <Rest snipped> Thanks, NancyT

Lloyd, Don't know the answer to your question.... but why go to the trouble of "getting rid of the .url" on the end of each one"?.....it's just 4 little spaces???? Just curious, PAX Nancyt Hello, I lost all my addresses in IE and am adding them back one at a time. The addresses have .url on the end of each one. I renamed all of them getting rid of the .url and then I could not open the website. Before I lost the addresses, they did not have .url on the end. I have always edited the address to shorten it. Is there a way to not show the .url? -- Best Wishes, Lloyd mailto:llhite31@juno.com

HP Computers have the model number on the CPU unit, not the monitor -- the MX number is strictly the monitor model number/ Aloha Wayne, NH6K -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Tollefson [mailto:mamat@gvtel.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:50 AM To: SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SR-NEWBIE] HP class action suit Hmmmm, I didn't see a number that matched the one on my monitor...... hp pavilion mx704..... I didn't see a CD that specifically said that it was that.... (I did get a few others...) but this was a rather quick look-see.... somewhat confused by the whole list.... PAX NancyT In a message dated 6/6/2005 1:12:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time, etm1935@yahoo.com writes: "I wonder if you know about the class action suit that was filed against HP about this very situation. If you're interested in pursuing it, here's a link that should work: http://www.computersettlement.com. Or call 1-866-778-1148." ---------- Thanks very, very much for posting this, because I had not heard anything about it. Because of your post, I went to the site, and now have a claim number. I didn't know enough about computers to know that I should've gotten a CD with my computer, and I knew nothing about what that might mean to me at some later date. Thank you, thank you! Velma ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== For Newbie help with computers and genealogy see: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~besley/newbie.htm ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== To leave the list, click here and send: mailto:SENIOR-NEWBIE-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe To leave the DIGEST, click here and send: mailto:SENIOR-NEWBIE-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

Hello, I lost all my addresses in IE and am adding them back one at a time. The addresses have .url on the end of each one. I renamed all of them getting rid of the .url and then I could not open the website. Before I lost the addresses, they did not have .url on the end. I have always edited the address to shorten it. Is there a way to not show the .url? -- Best Wishes, Lloyd mailto:llhite31@juno.com

Gerri, it will depend on where you purchased your computer and how the supplier set it up. Did they give you any type of "setup CD"? That type of CD is one that allows you to restore your computer back to how it was when you originally purchased it. The Product Activation is included in that CD, along with their version of XP and may not be obvious in any visual way. If you did not receive ANY type of setup CD you may have a problem. Lance P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program can be downloaded FREE at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=52583ii -----Original Message----- From: Gerri1936@aol.com [mailto:Gerri1936@aol.com] Sent: Monday, 6 June 2005 11:54 AM To: SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SR-NEWBIE] Windows XP In a message dated 6/5/2005 9:30:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lance.b.4u@gmail.com writes: > > To get the product key you can download this program and it will give > you all keys and other information regarding the machine. > > http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html > > > Lance wrote on 6/5/2005, 6:13 AM: > Lance my computer came with XP on it , but I do not have a cd, and no sticker on my case.... Are you saying the key code that BeLarc Advisor gave me may not be a legit code number ...???? or just a generated one. ?? thanks gerri'

Actually, Joan, the query was about "changing the registered owner" not about the product key. As you said Belarc will reveal the product key. It will also reveal the registered owner. It was the latter which John wanted to change. My warning about the product key was just in case the equipment John was thinking of purchasing had a pirated version of XP. If the original owner does not have the product key STICKER, normally on the setup CD case or pre-coded into the manufacturer's (Dell, HP, etc) setup CD, there is a good chance that the copy of XP is not legitimate as far as Microsoft is concerned. Every legitimate purchased copy of XP comes with a product key sticker and it can be applied either by the owner or the supplier to the computer case. Regardless of whether there is a sticker available, there will be a product key which will show up in Belarc's scan. Whether it is a "generated (pirated) key" or a genuine Microsoft key Belarc doesn't define that. This note (of warning) from Microsoft (URL below) is worth digesting: [QUOTE] Windows Update installs an ActiveX control on your computer. Each time you visit the Windows Update site, the ActiveX control gets your system's product key and sends it back to Windows Update servers in an encrypted format. Your product key is then checked against the current list of known pirated product keys. [END QUOTE] The last sentence is good enough reason to be extra cautious isn't it? A few sites which may help: http://tinyurl.com/dz44h http://tinyurl.com/bdx3t http://tinyurl.com/73m5j Lance P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program can be downloaded FREE at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=52583ii -----Original Message----- From: Joan L. Asche [mailto:jasche45133@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2005 10:08 PM To: SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SR-NEWBIE] Windows XP To get the product key you can download this program and it will give you all keys and other information regarding the machine. http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html Lance wrote on 6/5/2005, 6:13 AM: > John, you can change the registered owner name on the computer. This site > gives you the steps to do it. It involves editing the Registry so make > sure > you back up first: > http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-10877_11-5630339.html# > > Whether you will be able to obtain updates I can not say. However, as > the OS > is still on the original computer you should have no problem. You could > always check with Microsoft just to be sure. Make sure the required > Microsoft Product Key Number sticker is attached to the case. If it isn't > the original owner should be able to supply it. If he can't - forget > it as > Microsoft won't want to know about it (or perhaps they will :-)!). > > Lance > > > P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy > program can be downloaded FREE at > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=52583ii > -----Original Message----- > From: John Warnock [mailto:twojays@tik.com.au] > Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2005 6:14 PM > To: SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SR-NEWBIE] Windows XP > > I am considering buying a good 2nd hand computer. Windows XP is > registered > to the other owner, How do I transfer to myself or do I leave it as it is > ?????? > John from West Aus

First pf all your personal settings in AOL or in a file called Organize not file cabinet. You should back it up. On your taskbar you will see an aol icon. Right click on it, next click on Systems Information on the bottom. A caution message comes up, read it and click ok, then you will see a couple of options, pick open data file. Now you will have acess to all the versions of AOL you have. The organize file should be visible in the AOL 9 and *s;floders, You can copy and paste it onto your desktop. When you uninstall AOL and reinstall, do the same procedure deleting the new empty organize file, and paste your old one into the space. When I did mine went into the AOL shopping folder, but a day later I saw it was where it belonged. Hope this helpsOne think AOL people have is to go to keywork and type in live help and someone will come on and tell you exactly how to do everything you might need to do. Gigi

Thankyou Lance and everyone else This will enable me to check it out properly John from West Aus ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Warnock" <twojays@tik.com.au> To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 4:14 PM Subject: [SR-NEWBIE] Windows XP I am considering buying a good 2nd hand computer. Windows XP is registered to the other owner, How do I transfer to myself or do I leave it as it is ?????? John from West Aus ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== The focus of this list is on helping Seniors to learn to use computers and the Internet. Tolerance and patience are the watchwords. For help in genealogical research methods and procedures, join ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS. Click and send: mailto:ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Hi Elaine. If I had read this msg before replying to the first one, I'd have known how you handled it. That's fine ... I can call the 800 number to find out if I'm included in the settlement, but I think I just HAVE to be, considering what I've gone through with this thing. Anyway, thanks for being there ... Grace ----- Original Message ----- From: "ETM" <etm1935@yahoo.com> To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 1:11 AM Subject: [SR-NEWBIE] HP class action suit > Re our discussion of XP and the registry key, this > has bearing on the use of HP computers sold > without backup CDs. > > Someone shared this information with me. I did > request and did receive the set of restore CDs, at > no cost, back in 2003 shortly after making the > computer purchase, but it appears that others may > not have been so lucky, and that some never tried. > Relief, via the CDs or download, has now been made > available. Check the website to see if your HP > qualifies for the class action suit. I actually > received two notices from the HP Settlement > Administrator by postal mail last week. > > "I wonder if you know about the class action suit > that was filed against HP about this very > situation. If you're interested in pursuing it, > here's a link that should work: > http://www.computersettlement.com. Or call > 1-866-778-1148." > > Elaine > > > > > ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== > To volunteer to do a lookup or to exchange lookups, go here: > http://www.RAOGK.org > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

I assume you mean the law suite that concerns HP machines? I don't have the number but I did find this from the website. Under the lawsuit agreement was it necessary to pay the shipping costs? http://tinyurl.com/8svqr Marilyn Bess wrote on 6/6/2005, 5:39 AM: > The other day I received a message with a 800 number to call to > receive the > disks that are being offered as a settlement results in a lawsuit. Does > anyone have that number? Thanks Marilyn > > > > ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== > For Newbie help with computers and genealogy see: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~besley/newbie.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

The other day I received a message with a 800 number to call to receive the disks that are being offered as a settlement results in a lawsuit. Does anyone have that number? Thanks Marilyn

The thread that I responded too concerned finding the product key. Belarc is one way to do that. I have used Belarc because the sticker on the back and bottom of my machine is next to impossible to read. :-). CD cases get lost, and the product key goes with it. It doesn't mean the program is "stolen" it just means it's lost. Our grandson once and spilled Coke on a CD case for MS Word and the key sticker was gone! Long ago when I purchased MS ME the "case" was paper.... it's gone too. Belarc also comes in handy because it gives you all necessary information that you need to know such as memory, lets you know if SP2 is installed and other programs. This could be very handy data on a machine you just brought or plan to buy. If I purchased a pre-owned computer I would not bother to re-register it, but if I did I would contact Microsoft and ask them how to go about doing this. Have the person you purchase the machine from give you a receipt. If the question of software ownership comes up you can honestly say that you did not know where the previous owner got the program. Lance wrote on 6/5/2005, 9:29 PM: > Actually, Joan, the query was about "changing the registered owner" not > about the product key. As you said Belarc will reveal the product key. It > will also reveal the registered owner. It was the latter which John > wanted > to change. > > My warning about the product key was just in case the equipment John was > thinking of purchasing had a pirated version of XP. If the original owner > does not have the product key STICKER, normally on the setup CD case or > pre-coded into the manufacturer's (Dell, HP, etc) setup CD, there is a > good > chance that the copy of XP is not legitimate as far as Microsoft is > concerned. Every legitimate purchased copy of XP comes with a product key > sticker and it can be applied either by the owner or the supplier to the > computer case. Regardless of whether there is a sticker available, there > will be a product key which will show up in Belarc's scan. Whether it > is a > "generated (pirated) key" or a genuine Microsoft key Belarc doesn't > define > that. This note (of warning) from Microsoft (URL below) is worth > digesting: > > [QUOTE] > Windows Update installs an ActiveX control on your computer. Each time > you > visit the Windows Update site, the ActiveX control gets your system's > product key and sends it back to Windows Update servers in an encrypted > format. Your product key is then checked against the current list of > known > pirated product keys. > [END QUOTE] > The last sentence is good enough reason to be extra cautious isn't it? > > A few sites which may help: > http://tinyurl.com/dz44h > http://tinyurl.com/bdx3t > http://tinyurl.com/73m5j > > Lance > > > > P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy > program can be downloaded FREE at > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=52583ii > -----Original Message----- > From: Joan L. Asche [mailto:jasche45133@aol.com] > Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2005 10:08 PM > To: SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [SR-NEWBIE] Windows XP > > To get the product key you can download this program and it will give you > all keys and other information regarding the machine. > > http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html > > > Lance wrote on 6/5/2005, 6:13 AM: > > > John, you can change the registered owner name on the computer. This > site > > gives you the steps to do it. It involves editing the Registry so > make > > sure > you back up first: > > http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-10877_11-5630339.html# > > > > Whether you will be able to obtain updates I can not say. However, > as > > the OS > is still on the original computer you should have no > problem. You > could > always check with Microsoft just to be sure. Make sure the > required > > Microsoft Product Key Number sticker is attached to the case. If it > isn't > > the original owner should be able to supply it. If he can't - > forget > it > as > Microsoft won't want to know about it (or perhaps they will :-)!). > > > > Lance > > > > > > P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured > genealogy > > program can be downloaded FREE at > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=52583ii > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Warnock [mailto:twojays@tik.com.au] > Sent: Sunday, 5 June > 2005 6:14 PM > To: SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SR-NEWBIE] > Windows XP > > I am considering buying a good 2nd hand computer. > Windows > XP is > registered > to the other owner, How do I transfer to myself > or do > I leave it as it is > ?????? > > John from West Aus > > > > ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== > To leave the list, click here and send: > mailto:SENIOR-NEWBIE-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > To leave the DIGEST, click here and send: > mailto:SENIOR-NEWBIE-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Re our discussion of XP and the registry key, this has bearing on the use of HP computers sold without backup CDs. Someone shared this information with me. I did request and did receive the set of restore CDs, at no cost, back in 2003 shortly after making the computer purchase, but it appears that others may not have been so lucky, and that some never tried. Relief, via the CDs or download, has now been made available. Check the website to see if your HP qualifies for the class action suit. I actually received two notices from the HP Settlement Administrator by postal mail last week. "I wonder if you know about the class action suit that was filed against HP about this very situation. If you're interested in pursuing it, here's a link that should work: http://www.computersettlement.com. Or call 1-866-778-1148." Elaine

Hello VaGreen100, Monday, June 6, 2005, 12:44:30 AM, you wrote: Vac> First of all what is a DLL file? Dynamic Link Library - or to put it simply, a collection of small bits of programs that help a larger program work. There are many of these on a Windows system and are an essential part of how it all works. Vac> And as I have one or more missing where do I find it? MSO9.DLL is Vac> the specific one. This one is part of Office 2000 and to fix it you'd probably need to re-install Office. Many DLL's can't just be downloaded and copied, they need to be installed by the program that needs them. HTH -- Best regards, Barry mailto:barry@yobunny.co.uk MicroSoft Free Zone running Xandros 2.0 Deluxe

In a message dated 6/5/2005 10:27:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, SENIOR-NEWBIE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Dynamic Link Library - or to put it simply, a collection of small bits > of programs that help a larger program work. There are many of these > on a Windows system and are an essential part of how it all works. > > Vac> And as I have one or more missing where do I find it? MSO9.DLL is > Vac> the specific one. > > This one is part of Office 2000 and to fix it you'd probably need to > re-install Office. Many DLL's can't just be downloaded and copied, > they need to be installed by the program that needs them. > thank you for your answers. Now I know a little more about my problem and where to look. Virginia Green

Many computers sold in the US are sold without backup CDs. The windows operating system and pre-installed applications furnished by the OEM are on a separate partition on the hard drive and the programming is accessed there using hot keys in the event of problems. I had no CDs when I bought and unpacked my computer system two and a half years ago. That was the beginning of the trend. I called HP and they did send me the set of reformat/reinstallation disks, I imagine they still do, whether now free or for a fee I don't know. There is no separate Windows CD. I am using an OEM version of XP-Home and it is part of the overall application recovery system. I am sure it is done under agreement with Microsoft. Elaine I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do. That is character! --Theodore Roosevelt Hello Lance On Sunday, June 5, 2005, you wrote > Gerri, it will depend on where you purchased > your computer and how the > supplier set it up. Did they give you any > type of "setup CD"? That type of > CD is one that allows you to restore your > computer back to how it was when > you originally purchased it. The Product > Activation is included in that CD, > along with their version of XP and may not be > obvious in any visual way. If > you did not receive ANY type of setup CD you may have a problem. > Lance

In a message dated 6/5/2005 10:11:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, etm1935@yahoo.com writes: > > > Sticker might be on the back of your tower, Gerri, > I've never looked for mine, I am too old to start > crawling around to find it, since it isn't always > immediately noticeable. My HP had XP > pre-installed, it has passed all Microsoft > security checks for updates and for downloading > additional Microsoft programming. I am using the > HP OEM version of XP-Home and trust the > information obtained via BelArc. There also is a > small utility that will provide you with your key: > > http://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder.shtml > > Elaine > thanks elaine, will ck it out and thanks to lance too... will have to follow up on all this ... gerri

Sticker might be on the back of your tower, Gerri, I've never looked for mine, I am too old to start crawling around to find it, since it isn't always immediately noticeable. My HP had XP pre-installed, it has passed all Microsoft security checks for updates and for downloading additional Microsoft programming. I am using the HP OEM version of XP-Home and trust the information obtained via BelArc. There also is a small utility that will provide you with your key: http://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder.shtml Elaine > Lance my computer came with XP on it , but I > do not have a cd, and no sticker > on my case.... Are you saying the key code > that BeLarc Advisor gave me may > not be a legit code number ...???? or just a generated one. ?? > thanks > gerri'

In a message dated 6/5/2005 9:30:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lance.b.4u@gmail.com writes: > > To get the product key you can download this program and it will give you > all keys and other information regarding the machine. > > http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html > > > Lance wrote on 6/5/2005, 6:13 AM: > Lance my computer came with XP on it , but I do not have a cd, and no sticker on my case.... Are you saying the key code that BeLarc Advisor gave me may not be a legit code number ...???? or just a generated one. ?? thanks gerri'

Hi Paul, Open My Computer, Add remove programmes, Add/remove window components, Windows component wizard will appear, untick Windows Messenger box Jack Phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Etherington" <pablo61@tiscali.co.uk> To: <SENIOR-NEWBIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 8:15 PM Subject: [SR-NEWBIE] Windows Messenger Hi Is there a wayy of permanently disabling Windows Messenger? I did have it disabled (somehow) but after a glitch with a virus / trojan it seems to want to start up each time I log onto the internet. Anyy ideas welcome Paul ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== To leave the list, click here and send: mailto:SENIOR-NEWBIE-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe To leave the DIGEST, click here and send: mailto:SENIOR-NEWBIE-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx