Mine is listed. What a bummer. But I will most certainly follow through with this. I have HP Pavilion 760n. Many many thanks for your post. Ginny -------------- Original message -------------- > It doesn't involve monitors but the tower part of an HP computer. Look > on the front of the HP tower for the model of the computer. The check > the list again. > > Nancy Tollefson wrote on 6/6/2005, 3:49 PM: > > > Hmmmm, > > > > I didn't see a number that matched the one on my monitor...... hp > > pavilion mx704..... > > > > I didn't see a CD that specifically said that it was that.... (I did > > get a few > > others...) but this was a rather quick look-see.... > > > > somewhat confused by the whole list.... > > > > PAX > > > > NancyT > > > > In a message dated 6/6/2005 1:12:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > > etm1935@yahoo.com writes: > > "I wonder if you know about the class action suit > > that was filed against HP about this very > > situation. If you're interested in pursuing it, > > here's a link that should work: > > http://www.computersettlement.com. Or call > > 1-866-778-1148." > > ---------- > > > > Thanks very, very much for posting this, because I had not heard anything > > about it. Because of your post, I went to the site, and now have a claim > > number. I didn't know enough about computers to know that I > > should've gotten a CD > > with my computer, and I knew nothing about what that might mean to me at > > some later date. Thank you, thank you! > > > > Velma > > > > > > ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== > > For Newbie help with computers and genealogy see: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~besley/newbie.htm > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== > > To leave the list, click here and send: > > mailto:SENIOR-NEWBIE-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > To leave the DIGEST, click here and send: > > mailto:SENIOR-NEWBIE-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > > > ============================== > > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > > Learn more: > > > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&target > id=5429 > > > > > > > > > ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== > To leave the list, click here and send: > mailto:SENIOR-NEWBIE-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > To leave the DIGEST, click here and send: > mailto:SENIOR-NEWBIE-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

That's really interesting. I have an HP bought in December 2002 (with no backup CDs, though HP did mail them to me when I called and insisted that I did NOT trust the computer for recovery and wanted them). On my HP, the recovery system is on a 5 GB partition, would never be able to handle anything else, maybe has 930 MB left free. My 80 GB "computer" was divided to create that recovery area, so I didn't truly receive an eighty GB drive <smile>. Elaine Would a fly without wings be called a walk? Hello Joan On Monday, June 6, 2005, you wrote > I've been fortunate in that respect. I don't > have a working CD drive and > without the partitioned recovery system I am in trouble. ;-) > ETM wrote on 6/6/2005, 5:45 PM: >> It also isn't 100% certain that it will work. I >> was unable to use the recovery partition once but >> fortunately by then HP had sent me the set of >> restore CDs. I used them and was able to reformat >> and reinstall the applications. >> >> You can't trust a computer to permit access to >> that recovery partition. The whole idea was >> idiotic.

Hello Gerri, Monday, June 6, 2005, 2:54:05 AM, you wrote: Gac> Lance my computer came with XP on it , but I do not have a cd, Gac> and no sticker on my case.... Are you saying the key code that Gac> BeLarc Advisor gave me may not be a legit code number ...???? or Gac> just a generated one. ?? If you don't have a sticker with a Licence Key, and you've not been supplied CD's or a means to do a re-install then your only recourse is the person that supplied you with the system, and if they refuse to play ball or cannot be contacted you are faced with having to buy your own copy of WinXP all over again :-( I've seen a few systems where WinXP has been supplied without any sticker / CD / recovery and they've all been done with an OEM CD that's been 'borrowed' and used outside of the OEM agreement - that *does* make them illegal but for now it's only a real problem to the user if they need to re-install WinXP. What I would suggest to anyone in that boat is not to do the on-line check with MicroSoft for validity and consider getting their own legal copy to re-install with. Moves within MicroSoft are well under way to make this validation of WinXP mandatory to get updates. I can see a few WinXP's being locked out when this happens !! The licence key issue with WinXP goes a lot deeper ...... Both Belarc and 'Magic Jelly Bean' ( what a wonderful name <lol> ) will reveal the key that is in the registry. What I have found is that for OEM installations of WinXP it won't work with anything other than the original OEM CD. Trying to re-install with another WinXP CD, even if it's the same version ( see below ), will throw up an 'invalid key' message. Now, if you have a sticker on your PC with a WinXP licence - that will be different to the one that an OEM installed system ( e.g. HP or Dell etc. ) will have in the registry. This sticker is *your* key that can be used to re-install from a WinXP CD - providing that it's the same version that you had installed originally. This does pose a few problems as there have been quite a few distinct 'versions' of WinXP: WinXP Home WinXP Home + SP1 WinXP Home + SP2 WinXP Professional WinXP Professional + SP1 WinXP Professional + SP2 The key you have on that sticker will *only* work on the exact match from the list above, so if you got your WinXP before the service packs came out, even if you've upgrades on-line to SP2, you'll need an original CD to do the re-install and then do the upgrade all over again. You can't use that key to install from a WinXP + SP2 CD. Even folks who have purchased a legitimate WinXP without any service packs can't use their key with a WinXP + SP1 or WinXP + SP2 CD !! MicroSoft have really woven themselves a tangled web with WinXP and I hope they've learned their lesson when Longhorn finally emerges !! So - if you have a system from an OEM manufacturer such as HP / Dell, then their recovery procedure ( whether via supplied CD's or on a separate partition on your Hard Drive ) is the best way to do it. -- Best regards, Barry mailto:barry@yobunny.co.uk MicroSoft Free Zone running Xandros 2.0 Deluxe

I've been fortunate in that respect. I don't have a working CD drive and without the partitioned recovery system I am in trouble. ;-) ETM wrote on 6/6/2005, 5:45 PM: > It also isn't 100% certain that it will work. I > was unable to use the recovery partition once but > fortunately by then HP had sent me the set of > restore CDs. I used them and was able to reformat > and reinstall the applications. > > You can't trust a computer to permit access to > that recovery partition. The whole idea was > idiotic.

I would think that if you purchased your computer new and out of the box at a place like Best Buy, or Comp USA that you don't have to worry about a bootleg Operating System. My 'puter came from such a place and was purchased new. If you purchased a HP computer after 2001 you may not have recovery CD. It is partitioned on the hard drive. The product key you get from Belarc would be legit. The problem, I think, would be if you had someone build you a computer and you do not know where the OS came from, or if a computer was purchased second hand from someone who may not be trustworthy. If you had your computer built for you and you purchased the OS then you have nothing to worry about. If you buy a used computer from a stranger -- buyer beware. Barry wrote on 6/6/2005, 12:57 PM: > Hello Gerri, > > Monday, June 6, 2005, 2:54:05 AM, you wrote: > > Gac> Lance my computer came with XP on it , but I do not have a cd, > Gac> and no sticker on my case.... Are you saying the key code that > Gac> BeLarc Advisor gave me may not be a legit code number ...???? or > Gac> just a generated one. ?? > > If you don't have a sticker with a Licence Key, and you've not been > supplied CD's or a means to do a re-install then your only recourse is > the person that supplied you with the system, and if they refuse to > play ball or cannot be contacted you are faced with having to buy your > own copy of WinXP all over again :-( I've seen a few systems where > WinXP has been supplied without any sticker / CD / recovery and > they've all been done with an OEM CD that's been 'borrowed' and used > outside of the OEM agreement - that *does* make them illegal but for > now it's only a real problem to the user if they need to re-install > WinXP. What I would suggest to anyone in that boat is not to do the > on-line check with MicroSoft for validity and consider getting their > own legal copy to re-install with. Moves within MicroSoft are well > under way to make this validation of WinXP mandatory to get updates. > I can see a few WinXP's being locked out when this happens !! > > The licence key issue with WinXP goes a lot deeper ...... > > Both Belarc and 'Magic Jelly Bean' ( what a wonderful name <lol> ) > will reveal the key that is in the registry. What I have found is that > for OEM installations of WinXP it won't work with anything other than > the original OEM CD. Trying to re-install with another WinXP CD, even > if it's the same version ( see below ), will throw up an 'invalid key' > message. > > Now, if you have a sticker on your PC with a WinXP licence - that will > be different to the one that an OEM installed system ( e.g. HP or Dell > etc. ) will have in the registry. This sticker is *your* key that can > be used to re-install from a WinXP CD - providing that it's the same > version that you had installed originally. This does pose a few > problems as there have been quite a few distinct 'versions' of WinXP: > > WinXP Home > WinXP Home + SP1 > WinXP Home + SP2 > WinXP Professional > WinXP Professional + SP1 > WinXP Professional + SP2 > > The key you have on that sticker will *only* work on the exact match > from the list above, so if you got your WinXP before the service packs > came out, even if you've upgrades on-line to SP2, you'll need an > original CD to do the re-install and then do the upgrade all over > again. You can't use that key to install from a WinXP + SP2 CD. Even > folks who have purchased a legitimate WinXP without any service packs > can't use their key with a WinXP + SP1 or WinXP + SP2 CD !! > > MicroSoft have really woven themselves a tangled web with WinXP and I > hope they've learned their lesson when Longhorn finally emerges !! > > So - if you have a system from an OEM manufacturer such as HP / Dell, > then their recovery procedure ( whether via supplied CD's or on a > separate partition on your Hard Drive ) is the best way to do it. > > -- > Best regards, > Barry mailto:barry@yobunny.co.uk > MicroSoft Free Zone running Xandros 2.0 Deluxe > > > ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== > The focus of this list is on helping Seniors to learn to use computers > and the Internet. Tolerance and patience are the watchwords. For help > in genealogical research methods and procedures, join > ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS. Click and send: > mailto:ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

It also isn't 100% certain that it will work. I was unable to use the recovery partition once but fortunately by then HP had sent me the set of restore CDs. I used them and was able to reformat and reinstall the applications. You can't trust a computer to permit access to that recovery partition. The whole idea was idiotic. Elaine My family tree is a few branches short! Hello Joan On Monday, June 6, 2005, you wrote > The suit has to do with recovery disc. When > I purchased my computer in > 2001 it didn't come with a recovery CD. > Instead the recovery is > partitioned on the hard drive. To access the > recovery all I have to do > is tap the F10 key as soon as the computer turns on. > I'm assuming that those machines that came > with a recovery CD would not > be included in this suit. I know my older HP > that came with a recovery > disc is not. It also in not running Windows XP. > When I do have to recover, I turn the machine off, disconnect > everything except the mouse, keyboard, and > monitor; turn it back on and > start tapping F10. This accesses the > recovery on the partition. > Part of the problem is that HP didn't exactly > tell its customers about > this. I found out when my computer was one month old and stopped > working. It was tech support who clued me > in. To make a long story > short they had to replace the tower with the one I now have. > But that is how I learned to recover my HP!

In a message dated 6/6/2005 1:39:16 PM Mountain Daylight Time, mamat@gvtel.com writes: (where on earth did they come up with a name like "Longhorn"?.....sounds like some Texas Steer!) HEY !!! LOL Mike in TX

The suit has to do with recovery disc. When I purchased my computer in 2001 it didn't come with a recovery CD. Instead the recovery is partitioned on the hard drive. To access the recovery all I have to do is tap the F10 key as soon as the computer turns on. I'm assuming that those machines that came with a recovery CD would not be included in this suit. I know my older HP that came with a recovery disc is not. It also in not running Windows XP. When I do have to recover, I turn the machine off, disconnect everything except the mouse, keyboard, and monitor; turn it back on and start tapping F10. This accesses the recovery on the partition. Part of the problem is that HP didn't exactly tell its customers about this. I found out when my computer was one month old and stopped working. It was tech support who clued me in. To make a long story short they had to replace the tower with the one I now have. But that is how I learned to recover my HP! Nancy Tollefson wrote on 6/6/2005, 4:36 PM: > Thanks, Joan....for enlightening me.... and also for not making me > feel like some > dummy!! > > I did not realize that the tower had a different number than the > monitor!!! I just > assumed that number, was the number of the computer!!! Well, learn > something new > every day, I guess!!! > > The number on the front of the tower... was "hp Pavilion a532x"..... > didn't see > that, on the list, either....But, given the fact that I thought the > monitor number > was the computer number...it sure could have been there! > ooooooof-dah!!! is my > face red!! >

In a message dated 6/6/2005 4:50:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, JYoung6180@aol.com writes: Named for Places In Canada??? I was under the impression that MicroSoft was a US company???? They are but they are headquartered in Redmond, Washington which isn't all that far from the Canadian border and I'm thinking the test names have something to do with golf courses in Canada. LOL! I guess the bigshots at Microsoft vacation a lot in Canada and play golf a lot. Now this is from my memory--I think that is what I read--I could be wrong. Joan Well, ok--if this is correct I was partly right: http://forum.tweakxp.com/forum/Topic160470-34-1.aspx It IS named for a place in Canada but apparently it is named for a bar in British Columbia. LOL! Now we know why the Microsoft products are so quirky--the developers have been drinking while they work! <g> Joan

In a message dated 6/6/2005 4:38:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, mamat@gvtel.com writes: Named for Places In Canada??? I was under the impression that MicroSoft was a US company???? They are but they are headquartered in Redmond, Washington which isn't all that far from the Canadian border and I'm thinking the test names have something to do with golf courses in Canada. LOL! I guess the bigshots at Microsoft vacation a lot in Canada and play golf a lot. Now this is from my memory--I think that is what I read--I could be wrong. Joan

It doesn't involve monitors but the tower part of an HP computer. Look on the front of the HP tower for the model of the computer. The check the list again. Nancy Tollefson wrote on 6/6/2005, 3:49 PM: > Hmmmm, > > I didn't see a number that matched the one on my monitor...... hp > pavilion mx704..... > > I didn't see a CD that specifically said that it was that.... (I did > get a few > others...) but this was a rather quick look-see.... > > somewhat confused by the whole list.... > > PAX > > NancyT > > In a message dated 6/6/2005 1:12:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > etm1935@yahoo.com writes: > "I wonder if you know about the class action suit > that was filed against HP about this very > situation. If you're interested in pursuing it, > here's a link that should work: > http://www.computersettlement.com. Or call > 1-866-778-1148." > ---------- > > Thanks very, very much for posting this, because I had not heard anything > about it. Because of your post, I went to the site, and now have a claim > number. I didn't know enough about computers to know that I > should've gotten a CD > with my computer, and I knew nothing about what that might mean to me at > some later date. Thank you, thank you! > > Velma > > > ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== > For Newbie help with computers and genealogy see: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~besley/newbie.htm > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== > To leave the list, click here and send: > mailto:SENIOR-NEWBIE-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > To leave the DIGEST, click here and send: > mailto:SENIOR-NEWBIE-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

In a message dated 6/6/2005 3:39:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, mamat@gvtel.com writes: (where on earth did they come up with a name like "Longhorn"?.....sounds like some Texas Steer!) That is not going to be the final name of the ext Windows--it is the "testing" name. It comes from the same place they got all the other names for the previous test versions of windows. I know I've read the source of the "code names" and I've forgotten as quickly as I learned--but I am thinking the names are for places in Canada. Joan

In a message dated 6/6/2005 2:38:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, PatCassdy@aol.com writes: Is there a way to bypass the chose the user screen? There is only one person using my computer! Can not find it in the help section. Pat -- Pat- Are you using XP home edition or professional edition? Joan

Joan, Thanks, Named for Places In Canada??? I was under the impression that MicroSoft was a US company???? PAX NancyT In a message dated 6/6/2005 3:39:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, mamat@gvtel.com writes: (where on earth did they come up with a name like "Longhorn"?.....sounds like some Texas Steer!) That is not going to be the final name of the ext Windows--it is the "testing" name. It comes from the same place they got all the other names for the previous test versions of windows. I know I've read the source of the "code names" and I've forgotten as quickly as I learned--but I am thinking the names are for places in Canada. Joan ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== The focus of this list is on helping Seniors to learn to use computers and the Internet. Tolerance and patience are the watchwords. For help in genealogical research methods and procedures, join ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS. Click and send: mailto:ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Thanks, Joan....for enlightening me.... and also for not making me feel like some dummy!! I did not realize that the tower had a different number than the monitor!!! I just assumed that number, was the number of the computer!!! Well, learn something new every day, I guess!!! The number on the front of the tower... was "hp Pavilion a532x"..... didn't see that, on the list, either....But, given the fact that I thought the monitor number was the computer number...it sure could have been there! ooooooof-dah!!! is my face red!! again, thanks!! PAX NancyT It doesn't involve monitors but the tower part of an HP computer. Look on the front of the HP tower for the model of the computer. The check the list again. Nancy Tollefson wrote on 6/6/2005, 3:49 PM: > Hmmmm, > > I didn't see a number that matched the one on my monitor...... hp > pavilion mx704..... > > I didn't see a CD that specifically said that it was that.... (I did > get a few > others...) but this was a rather quick look-see.... > > somewhat confused by the whole list.... > > PAX > > NancyT

Hmmmm, I didn't see a number that matched the one on my monitor...... hp pavilion mx704..... I didn't see a CD that specifically said that it was that.... (I did get a few others...) but this was a rather quick look-see.... somewhat confused by the whole list.... PAX NancyT In a message dated 6/6/2005 1:12:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time, etm1935@yahoo.com writes: "I wonder if you know about the class action suit that was filed against HP about this very situation. If you're interested in pursuing it, here's a link that should work: http://www.computersettlement.com. Or call 1-866-778-1148." ---------- Thanks very, very much for posting this, because I had not heard anything about it. Because of your post, I went to the site, and now have a claim number. I didn't know enough about computers to know that I should've gotten a CD with my computer, and I knew nothing about what that might mean to me at some later date. Thank you, thank you! Velma ==== SENIOR-NEWBIE Mailing List ==== For Newbie help with computers and genealogy see: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~besley/newbie.htm ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Is there a way to bypass the chose the user screen? There is only one person using my computer! Can not find it in the help section. Pat

In a message dated 6/6/2005 4:40:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bess@penn.com writes: The other day I received a message with a 800 number to call to receive the disks that are being offered as a settlement results in a lawsuit. Does anyone have that number? Thanks Marilyn ---------- Marilyn, The 800 number is in the email just before yours. Is this what you are referring to? "I wonder if you know about the class action suit that was filed against HP about this very situation. If you're interested in pursuing it, here's a link that should work: _http://www.computersettlement.com_ (http://www.computersettlement.com) . Or call 1-866-778-1148." I went to the website and did mine there. It's easy. Velma

Is there a way to bypass the chose the user screen? There is only one person using my computer! Can not find it in the help section. Pat

In a message dated 6/6/2005 1:12:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time, etm1935@yahoo.com writes: "I wonder if you know about the class action suit that was filed against HP about this very situation. If you're interested in pursuing it, here's a link that should work: http://www.computersettlement.com. Or call 1-866-778-1148." ---------- Thanks very, very much for posting this, because I had not heard anything about it. Because of your post, I went to the site, and now have a claim number. I didn't know enough about computers to know that I should've gotten a CD with my computer, and I knew nothing about what that might mean to me at some later date. Thank you, thank you! Velma