Hi cousin Mike ;), et. al. Thanks for writing. I've just recently began to explore this side of my family and most of the information I've found is just from what others have conjectured. I don't really know if it's factual or not, but from what I've observed of what others have posted most are in compliance as to the origin of the name. I, too, am apparently a descendant of Johann Heinrich's line. Johann Heinrich Zeller & Anna Maria Fechter Johan Peter Zeller(s)(some have spelled it both ways) & Maria Magdalene ? John Sellers & Henrietta Smith John Sellers & Mary Woodruff George Washington Sellers & Rachel Wells Christopher H. Sellers & ? (still trying to find out) Inez Adeline Sellers & Lawrence Corwin Seamands Shirley Eleanor Seamands & Joseph Marshall Van Bibber Karen Roie Van Bibber & Charles H. Forest, Jr. William J. Forest I wish I had better resources but my own family records that I have from Inez Seller's scrap book goes back as far as George Washington Sellers and his wife Rachel Wells. I can give information about this line but none others as far as factual information goes. BTW, noticed your family tree on the rootweb site when I wrote my previous message along with a Jim Sellars' family tree located at http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=j_sellars-3&id=I1148. As far as his information being factual, I don't really know. Hope this clears up some of my (and other's?) conjecturing. ;) Now, a previous posting I tried to make about my 3rd great grandfather, George W. Sellers, to Marie that didn't get posted on the "L" list because my email settings were wrong :P ------------------------------------------------- The obit I have for George W. Sellers reads as follows: Sellers-In San Jose, Calif. February 23, 1927, George W. Sellers, Devoted husband of the late Rachel Sellers, dearly beloved father of Albert Sellers of Maquoketa, Ia; Mrs. H. M. Carr of Council Bluffs, Ia.; B. T., J. M. and C. H. Sellers of San Jose, a native of Ohio, aged 88 years, 8 months, 26 days. Friends are invited to attend the funeral tomorrow (Thursday), February 24, 1927, at 2:30 o'clock p. m. from the new funeral chapel of Thomas Monohan, 174 West San Carlos Street, where services will be held. Internment Oak Hill Cemetery. --------------------------------------------------- Inez Adeline Seller's father is C. H. (Christopher H. Sellers). I do not have an obit for either Christopher H. or Inez. The only one I have in Inez's scrap book is for George W. --------------------------------------------------- A letter signed by C. H. Sellers to Inez about George's death reads exactly as follows: San Jose Calif. Feby 24th, 1927 Dear Children:- Just a few lines to let you know that we laid father to his last rest to-day. He died very easy, and knew us up to the last. During his last day he set up in a chair most all of the day. At 5 o'clock, ate a hearty dinner, topped it off with Ice Cream & Cake, and said that he enjoyed it. Went to bed shortly after, and slept good until 1 O'Clock in the morning. he called Ben at that time, and asked for a glass of water, after drinking he told Ben he has better stick around as he might need him. Ben set a chair close to the bed, at 1:30, things were agin very quiet, and going to the bed found he had passed away. John was working in Ryde, and got home at two yesterday afternoon. We had simple service at Monahans Chapel, no Music, but we put him away nice, beside Mother, and Brother George at Oax Hill. Ben is not very well, but believe a good rest is what he needs as father was a big care to him. Your Uncle Albert, at Maquoketa, Ia. was very low but he must be better as we have not heard from there for the last two weeks. The rest of the bunch is as mean as ever, Gladys is improving both in health, and meaness. How kids as this is the first letter I have written sence you went away you will excuse the errors. Father remembered you folks to the last. On Sunday last he wanted to know how you and Larry was, and when you would be home again, and if little Shirly was growing alright, Give her a hug and kiss for me will close love to all Your loving father, C. H. Sellers ------------------------------------------------- George W. Sellers & Rachel Wells Christopher H. Sellers & ? Inez Adeline Sellers & Lawrence Corwin Seamands George W. Sellers' children, as I understand it, are as follows: Christopher H. Sellers (C. H. Sellers in the obit.) Albert C. Sellers (Albert Sellers of Maquoketa, Ia in the obit) Gracie M. Sellers (She would have been H. M. Carr in the obit.) Benjamin T. Sellers (B. T. Sellers in the obit.) John M. Sellers (J. M. Sellers in the obit.) Mary E. Sellers (Not in the obit) Eva F. Sellers (Not in the obit) George G. Sellers (Not in the obit) Not all his children are mentioned in the obit and I don't know why. ------------------------------------------------- Hope this helps a little and hope you were able to keep up with my ramblings. Please keep in touch. William Forest ----- Original Message ----- From: "MikeAmber" <mikeamber@lvcm.com> To: <wjforest@hotmail.com> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Inquiry about Zeller to Sellers descendancy > > William, > Hey there :-) > > I am in the direct line from the Johann Heinrich Zeller that you mentioned > in your message. He was my 6 Great Grandfather. > > First, I'm really curious where you found the info that he was born 17 Aug > 1704 in Mottgers, Hesse, Germany. Were you able to find that info from > your > research or was it passed on from someone else's? I ask because I had > searched and searched for where Heinrich was originally from and came up > empty. It wasn't until Frank Sellers messaged me last November and > informed > me he had found Heinrich in Mottgers. I've been trying to put together or > find Heinrich's own family in Germany with no luck. Am just wondering if > you've been able to find this info out in your research and, if so, how? > > As for the Jacob Zeller you mention, I have often wondered myself if they > were somehow related. I haven't seen or come across any info that would > suggest that they are, though. According to Frank Sellers (author of the > book "A Preliminary Discussion on the Descendants of Heinrich Zeller"), > Heinrich was from Mottgers, Hesse and the line goes back an additional 4 > generations there. So, it would appear that Jacob Zeller and Heinrich are > either unrelated or would be distant cousins, at best. > I'm curious how the line you're researching ties into both Heinrich and > into > Jacob's. I've never seen anyone even remotely be able to put the two > together. > > Hope I haven't bored you nor confused you with my ramblings, and I look > forward to hearing from you soon! > > Michael Sellers > 6 Great Grandson of Heinrich Zeller >