ROGER, thank you for documents! and a list I can follow/see! I see you didn't include this census, which might make it easier to follow? 1850 CRAWFORD CO, MO CENSUS= 948-948 SCELLERS, Wm H 42 KY farmer (married who?where?) (ck Putnam Co,IN) (ck 1870 Phelps) ck 1860 Marie's Co) M (f) 38 KY J N (m) 18 IN E A (f) 17 IN M E (f) 15 IN J M (m) 12 IN C S (f) 11 IN J S (f) 9 MO W R (m) 4 MO P S (f) 1 MO ========= SO 1832 and 1839 we are in INDIANA? 1840 CENSUS with these kids ages? = PUTNAM CO, IN seems TO BE indicated several times. which would connect to WILLIAMS family. DO WE have any WILLIAMS that went with us to MO? DO we have copy of marriage license of HARVEY SELLERS to WILLIAMS in 1830? Putnam Co, IN? bondsman, etc.? THAnk YOU for sharing documents. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: R S [mailto:n5eea@InsightBB.com] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:13 AM To: 'Marie Sellers-Hollinger' Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Re: Wm H Sellers/PHELPS CO, MO William H. Sellers (father of James N. Sellers) in 1850 -- Missouri, Maries County, Roll 632 Book 1, Page 609 Wm. H. Sellers Missouri, Phelps County, Roll 797, Book 1, page 689 Further down on the same page is an Eliza Sellers with 3 sons: Wm H. age 7, Geo age 5 and John S. age 3. Eliza Ann Chambers - Born about 1840 according to census ages. Married James Nelson Sellers first abt 1862. When he died, she remarried John Hatton Dec 31, 1876 (Phelps county marriage records, book 1, pg 268). 1850 census: E. A. Chambers, age 10, born in Indiana 1860 census: Eliza Chambers, age 20, born in Indiana 1870 census: Eliza Sellers, age 30, born Indiana 1870 census, Phelps, Rolla, Mo Eliza Sellers, head, age 30, born Indiana Wm H. Sellers, 7, male, born Mo George, 5, male, born Mo John S., 3, male, born Mo (next door to Wm H. Sellers, 61 yrs old, and about 12 houses away from William Chambers family) 1880 census, Phelps, Dillon, #271/283: John Hatton, 70, NC NC NC Eliza A. Hatton, wife, 37, Mo, IL, IL Harvey Hatton, son, 17, Mo (should be Sellers) George W. Hatton, son, 15, Mo (Sellers) John Hatton, son, age 12, Mo (Sellers) Peter Hatton, son, age 2, born Mo 1900 census Phelps, Miller town, house 191: John J. Sellers, head Feb 1872, age 28, single, Mo In In Eliza Hatton, mother, Jan. 1846, age 54, widowed, In In In Peter Hatton, brother, Dec. 1877, age 22, single, Mo Mo Mo No death date or obituary has been found for Eliza Ann Chambers-Sellers-Hatton. In probate records of her sister, Jane Smith, the heirs of Eliza Sellers-Hatton are mentioned as heirs of Jane, indicating that Eliza had probably passed already. Born about 1840 according to census ages. Married James Nelson Sellers first abt 1862. When he died, remarried John Hatton Dec 31, 1876 (Phelps county marriage records, book 1, pg 268). 1850 census: E. A. Chambers, age 10, born in Indiana 1860 census: Eliza Chambers, age 20, born in Indiana 1870 census: Eliza Sellers, age 30, born Indiana 1880 census: Eliza Hatton, age 37, born in Missouri 1900 census: Eliza Hatton, born Jan. 1846, age 54, widow, born in In In In 1870 census, Phelps, Rolla, Mo Eliza Sellers, head, age 30, born Indiana Wm H. Sellers, 7, male, born Mo George, 5, male, born Mo John S., 3, male, born Mo (next door to Wm H. Sellers, 61 yrs old, and about 12 houses away from William Chambers family) 1880 census, Phelps, Dillon, #271/283: John Hatton, 70, NC NC NC Eliza A. Hatton, wife, 37, Mo, IL, IL Harvey Hatton, son, 17, Mo (should be Sellers) George W. Hatton, son, 15, Mo (Sellers) John Hatton, son, age 12, Mo (Sellers) Peter Hatton, son, age 2, born Mo 1900 census Phelps, Miller town, house 191: John J. Sellers, head Feb 1872, age 28, single, Mo In In Eliza Hatton, mother, Jan. 1846, age 54, widowed, In In In Peter Hatton, brother, Dec. 1877, age 22, single, Mo Mo Mo No death date or obituary has been found for Eliza Ann Chambers-Sellers-Hatton. In probate records of her sister, Jane Smith, the heirs of Eliza Sellers-Hatton are mentioned as heirs of Jane, indicating that Eliza had probably passed already. Here is what I have in my notes for William Chambers, father of Eliza: Probate court documents of Sept., 1871, indicate the following heirs: Elvira Chambers, widow Eliza Sellers, his daughter Mary Ellen Chambers, daughter Jane Tune, daughter John Chambers, son James Chambers, son Caroline Chambers, daughter Emmaline Chambers, daughter Margaret Chambers, daughter Matilda Chambers, daughter George Chambers, son 2 blank spaces with Chambers by it - probably to fill in Susan Chambers & Hester Chambers. When Eliza's sister, Jane Smith, died without children, she left her estate to her siblings & their heirs: APPLICATON FOR LETTERS OF ADMINISTRATION STATE OF MISSOURI }ss. County of Phelps County, Missouri In the Probate Court of Phelps County, Missouri In the Matter of MRS. JANE SMITH says to the best of his knowledge and belief, the names of the heirs of the said MRS. JANE SMITH, deceased and their places of residence are respectively as follows: JOHN CHAMBERS, who resides in the County of Phelps, in the State of Missouri; MRS. EMELINE PATTERSON who resides in the County of Phelps, in the State of Missouri; Heirs of GEO. CHAMBERS, deceased, who resides in the State of Kansas (Lowell); Heirs of MRS. ELIZA N. SELLERS-HATTON, who resides in the State of Missouri; MRS. SUSIE SHARP (half-sister) who resides in the County of Maries, Vichy, in the State of Missouri; MRS. JOHN WEAVER (half-sister), Phelps, in the State of Missouri; that the said JANE SMITH died on the 12th day of Nov 1924, without a will; that I will make a Perfect inventory of, and faithfully administer all the estate of the deceased and pay the debts as far As the assets will extend and the law direct, and account for and pay all assets which shall come to Possession and knowledge. Signed ?..Chas. Knapp, (Administrator) Subscribed and sworn to before me This 18th day of Nov A.D. 1924 Jno. B. Scott, Judge of Probate Her children by James Nelson Sellers are: William Harvey SELLERS b: 4 May 1863 in Phelps, Mo George Washington SELLERS b: 11 Apr 1865 in Phelps, Mo John Jacob SELLERS b: 14 Feb 1867 in Phelps, Mo Marriage 2 John HATTON b: in Phelps, Mo Married: 1876 in Phelps, Mo Children: Peter HATTON b: 1878 in Phelps, Mo I have James Nelson Sellers as his name. I got it from a reference from a book called "Sellers Family" - mentioned on an ancestry posting by Marcia Philbrick. ============================================ From previous data you forwarded to me... 1900 PHELPHS CO, MO, PAGE 214 DILLON TWN. WM H. ? SELLERS 35 MO, mom and dad born IN ELIZA 26 ARK, MOM AND DAD OH JOSHA J. 11 MO, all kids mom and dad born MO/AR GEO W. 9 MO JESSE P. 8 MO ANNA L. 6 MO ISAAC A.? 4 MO REZELA M. 1 MO (Actually this is Rosella May) === MARRIAGE LICENCE(copy of) William Harvey Sellers and Mariah Williams, March 24, 1830, Putnam Co., IN William H. Sellers and Emma Eliza Sharp , January 1, 1888, Phelps Co., MO. MARRIAGE INDEX William H Sellerss to Emma Eliza Sharp 1/1/1888, Rolla, MO William H. Sellers to Eula Lake Creglow October 12, 1912 (second marriage) William Harvey Sellers to Mrs. Mariane Johnson June 12, 1870 Second marriage of Sr. William H. Sellers to Edith M. Workman December 29, 1922 (father of George Edward, etc) Albert Sellers to Selma Torrance April 21, 1920 (son to William H. and Edith) Loura Harry Sellers to Loretta Kearns September 9, 1939 (son to William H. and Edith) CEMETERY RECORDS William H. Sellers Lot 322, Sec 20, Vahalla Cemetery, St. Louis Co., MO died Nov. 11, 1925 George Sellers, St. James Cemetery, St. James, MO. Died September 12, 1953 Cora Risz Sellers, St. James Cemetery, St. James Mo, Died 1950 (wife 2 of Geo.) Rose Sellers Moore, Jefferson Barracks, St. Louis Co., MO Died January 6, 1987 Ivy Sellers Zurfluh, Jefferson Barracks, St. Louis Co., Mo. Died November23,1985 Loretta Kearns Sellers Calvary Cemetery, St. Louis, MO. Died September 16, 1959 Jessie Sellers Macedonia Cemetery, Rolla, MO Died February 4, 1918 John Sellers Macedonia Cemetery, Rolla, MO Died August 17, 1911 (1 yr 5mo) Louemma Risz Sellers Macedonia Cemetery, Rolla MO Died February 14, 1893 (1 wife) Loura Harry Sellers Tucson, Arizona died August 15, 1988 Edith A. Sellers Hilgemann Laurel Hill Cemetery, St. Louis Co., MO. Died Decemter 8, 1992 DEATH CERTIFICATES Ivy L. Sellers Zurfluh - 11/23/1985 Rose M. Sellers Moore - 1/6/1987 William H. Sellers - 11/11/1925 Emma Sharp Sellers - 5/10/1911 NEWS PAPER OBITUARY Edith Hilgemann - St. Louis Post Dispatch 12/10/1992 Ivy Zurfluh - St. Louis Post Dispatch 11/25/1985 Rose Moore - St. Louis Post Dispatch 1/8/1987 William H. Sellers - St. Louis Post Dispatch 11/14/1925 DRAFT REGISTRATION Albert Sellers March 18, 1897 CENSUS 1860 - Marries Co., MO - W. H. Sellers age 52 wife and 7 children 1870 - Phelps Co., MO - Wm. H. Sellers age 61 wife and 2 children 1870 - Phelps Co., MO - Eliza Sellers age 30 and 3 children 1900 - Phelps Co., MO - William H Sellers age 35 wife and 6 children 1900 - Phelps Co., MO - George Sellers age 32 wife and 1 child 1910 - Phelps Co., MO - George W. Sellers age 40 wife and 6 children 1910 - City of St. Louis, MO.- William H. Sellers age 46 wife and 8 children James - 21 George - 19 Jessie - 17 Anna - 15 Isac (albert) - 13 Charles - 11 (the only time I've seen him mentioned might be a cousin) William Jr. - 9 Edith - 4 Rose, Ivy and Laura not listed. 1920 - St. Louis Co., MO - William H. age 56 (2nd wife) and 4children and 1 step son 1920 - Chillicothe MO - Ivy Sellers age 17 1920 - E. St. Louis, ILL - Rose Sellers Moore age 20 1920 - Crawford Co., MO - John J. Sellers age 50 wife and 1 child 1920 - Crawford Co., MO - George W. Sellers wife and 10 children ( Melba Sellers Wisdom was still living in St. James as of December last year) 1930 - Laromie, Wyoming Military Fort Francis - Harry Sellers age 24 (Loura) ============================================================== I have talked to my dad and several aunts and uncles and they all confirmed to me the names of their parents, marriage date, and names of siblings to William Harvey Cornelius Jr. They also confirmed the name of their grandfather and grandmother (William Harvey Cornelius Sellers Sr. and Emma Eliza Sharp) and several of the names to Sr's siblings. =========================================================== Just so you have this properly in order. Sons to Nathaniel David Sellers (1720-1795 Died in Lincoln Co., Ky) His sons were: James (b. 1764 Lurgan Township, Cumberland Co. PA d. 1827 Garrard Co., KY) Joseph Samuel John S. Nathan William David Nathaniel David's wife name is currently unknown to my knowledge. Nathaniel David had a brother named Samuel. Samuel is well documented by Jim Sellars Jsellars3@aol.com. Nathaniel David and his son's moved to kentucky approx. 1780. ****Nathaniel had 3 documented sons as having served in the Revolutionary War. Samuel, John, Nathan, ================================================== James Sellers and Mary Crawford (m. 12/19/1791 Garrard Co., KY) had 7 children...... William Harvey (b. 1808 Garrard Co. KY d. 1875 Phelps Co. Mo) John Crawford Rebecca Nathan Sarah Harrison Perry James Nelson (this James Nelson married Matilda Ann McCoy) William Harvey and Mariah Williams (m. 3/24/1830 Putnam Co., IN.) had 9 children....... James Nelson (b. 1831 Putnam Co., In. d. 4/1/1867 Phelps Co., Mo.) James Elizabeth Ann John M. Joseph S. Phoebe Jane William Martha Sarah F. James Nelson and Eliza Ann Chambers (m. 1862 maries Co., IN.) had 3 children that I can document William Harvey (b. 5/4/1863 Rolla, Phelps Co., Mo. d. 11/11/1925 St. Louis, Mo. documented) This is who I know as William Harvey Cornelius Sellers Sr. George Washington John Jacob Willaim Harvey Cornelius Sr. and Emma Eliza Sharp (m. 1/1/1888 Rolla, Phelps Co., Mo.) had 11 children.............. William Harvey Jr.( b. 4/10/1901 red Bird, Gasconade Co., Mo. d. unknown) (my grandfather ) James Joshua George Jacob W. Jesse P. Anna Lucy Albert Isaac Rosella May Ivy Lois Edith A. Loura Harry John William Harvey Cornelius Jr. and Edith Dolla May Workman (12/29/1922 St. Louis, IL.) has 8 children.................. Norma Verona George Edward (my dad) Lloyd Leonard Bernice Eulalia Vera May James Harold William Norman This IS and what I have as SHOULD BE my direct line of Sellers back to (at least reasonably documentable) 1751 in PA. Do you need more detail? Thanks, Roger Sellers -----Original Message----- From: Marie Sellers-Hollinger [mailto:mari@netins.net] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 22:56 To: R S; SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Re: Wm H Sellers/PHELPS CO, MO ROGER, thanks for keeping us up to date. Sorry, I can NOT follow the line/ family from IN to MO = YOU/WE need documents to prove families AND marriages/census/ to follow families ADVISE, marie, iowa