Georgia, I found Jacob and family listed on the 1860 Augusta County Census as part of the "Valley of the Shadow" website's info. 1860 Augusta County, North Subdivision, Virginia Page #1000, Dwelling #1260, Family #1265 Jacob Shirey, W, M, 33 Day Laborer Lucie A. Shirey, W, F, 40 Sarah E. Shirey, W, F, 7 Mary J. Shirey, W, F, 4 Jacob F.E. Shirey, W, M, 1 Elizabeth Shirey, W, F, 72 It appears that this is the same Jacob and Lucy that we've found on the 1870 and 1880 Augusta County Census. In 1860, however, it appears that they had another, older daughter, Sarah E. Shirey, and Jacob's mother, Elizabeth, was also living with them. Sarah does not appear on any Census after 1860, so that leaves me wondering what happened to her. The 1860 Census info would push Jacob and Lucy's marriage date back to at least 1852 since daughter Sarah appears as age 7. If this Jacob Shirey is the one that originally married Elizabeth Magdalene Sellers, then we're down to basically a 10 year window of trying to determine what happened to Elizabeth between her marriage to Jacob in 1843 and his marriage and child with Lucy A. by 1852 or 1853. I have not been able to locate Jacob on the 1850 Augusta County Census .... Michael -----Original Message----- From: Sellers.Michael Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 09:18 AM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Sellers in Augusta County, Virginia Georgia, I was able to find Jacob on the 1870 Augusta County, Virginia, Census. Last name was spelled as "Shiry". 1870 Augusta County, Mount Sidney Post Office, Virginia Page 91, Line #27, Dwelling #635, Family #634 Jacob Shiry, W, M, 46, Farmer Lucy A. Shiry, W, F, 48, Keeping House Mary J. Shiry, W, F, 14 Jacob T.E. Shiry, W, M, 11 It would appear by this that this Jacob Shiry and wife Lucy A. were married by at least 1855 or 1856 since their daughter Mary J. was 14 on the Census. Hopefully, we can find Jacob in an even earlier Census and/or info pertaining to what happened to Elizabeth if indeed this Jacob is/was her husband. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Georgia Fletcher [mailto:chick@blzwire.com] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 07:15 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] Sellers in Augusta County, Virginia 1880 Augusta County, Beverly Manor Township, Virginia Jacob Shirey, W, M, 55, farmer, VA; Lucy A. Shirey, W, F, 57, VA Michael, you said you could not find what happened to Elizabeth Magadelene Sellers that married Jacob Shirey. I would venture to say that she has died by 1880 and Jacob is married to a Lucy A. Unknown. I'll try earlier census records and see if he is married to Elizabeth M. Sellers. Elizabeth Magadelene Sellers born March 1823, Augusta County, Virginia, is a sister to Jerome H. B. Sellers, children of John Conrad Sellers and Catherine Brown. Georgia