Georgia, I think its an excellent possibility that the 1850 Census record is for Elizabeth Magdalene Sellers and husband Jacob Shirey. This Jacob Shiry in 1850 appears in the household of (I'm assuming) his mother, Elizabeth, age 61. Ten years later, the Jacob Shirey on the 1860 Augusta County Census has his mother, Elizabeth, Age 72, living in his household. I think it would be a safe assumption to say that the 1850 Jacob in Rockingham Co. and the 1860 Jacob in Augusta Co. are one and the same. Since we only see one Jacob Shiry/Shirey and not two separate Jacob Shiry/Shireys living in each county for both the 1850 and 1860 Censuses, I think the assumption is an even safer one to make. And, additionally, the ages listed for Jacob and Elizabeth for the 1850 Census are nearly correct for what they should be for the Jacob Shirey and Elizabeth Magdalene Sellers we're looking for. You are most definitely correct about Rockingham County. It shares a border with Augusta County. This line of Sellers was from Rockingham County and did not move into Augusta County until Elizabeth's father, John Conrad Sellers, moved the family there in the 1830's. John Conrad Sellers appears on the 1830 Rockingham County Census but then appears on the 1840 Augusta County Census. He bought a farm just outside of Churchville, Augusta County. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to locate the land records for the property to determine exactly when he bought it and from whom. So, Elizabeth, born in 1823, would've been about 10 when the family moved from Rockingham to Augusta County. In fact, the farm in Augusta Co. that they located to is no more than 10 miles or so (if that much) from the Rockingham Co. line. I guess the assumption now would be that Elizabeth married Jacob in 1843, and they were living in the household of his mother as late as 1850. If the Jacob Shiry/Shirey of the 1860 Census that was married to Lucy A. and that had a daughter, Sarah E., born in 1852 or 1853 was the same Jacob Shirey/Shiry that married Elizabeth M. Sellers in 1843, whatever became of or happened to Elizabeth occurred at some point between 1850 and 1852. Question now is, what happened, when, and where is she buried? I'm sounding like an annoying broken record, but I certainly appreciate your patience, help, and efforts! Michael -----Original Message----- From: Georgia Fletcher [mailto:chick@blzwire.com] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 10:40 AM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Sellers in Augusta County, Virginia Michael, if I remember correctly, on your earlier World Connect you had the Sellers from Rockingham County, Virginia. In 1850 Rockingham County, Virginia, I found the following: 1850 Rockingham County, Virginia 56 1/2 District Enumerated on November 14, 1850 Image 289 and 290 on Ancestry.com census records HH#449 Elizabeth Shiry,61, F, VA; Jacob Shiry, 22, M, VA, farmer; Elizabeth Shiry, 25, F, VA; Daniel Shiry, 20, M, VA Many times when they have the age out of sequence like this, it is because it is a daughter-in-law rather than a daughter. I realize the ages are slightly off but it does have Elizabeth as two years older than Jacob and your records show her two years older also. Don't discount this as being Elizabeth Magdalene Sellers Shirey until you can prove it is not. Am I correct about Rockingham County? Is it close to Augusta County? Georgia -----Original Message----- From: Sellers.Michael [mailto:msellers@acresgaming.com] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 8:16 AM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Sellers in Augusta County, Virginia Georgia, Thank you for the Census info. Elizabeth Magdalene Sellers was born March 24, 1823, was a sister to Jerome H.B. Sellers, and both were indeed children of John Conrad Sellers and Catherine Brown. Elizabeth married Jacob Shirey on November 21, 1843. Beyond that, I have no other info concerning them. I have no record of any children and no record of what happened to them after that. Again, thank you for the effort in finding Jacob on the 1880 Census. That's the first info of any kind that I've really seen about him. Very much interested in anything additional that you can magically find about them :-) Thanks for all your efforts and assistance. Its been greatly appreciated! Michael -----Original Message----- From: Georgia Fletcher [mailto:chick@blzwire.com] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 07:15 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] Sellers in Augusta County, Virginia 1880 Augusta County, Beverly Manor Township, Virginia Jacob Shirey, W, M, 55, farmer, VA; Lucy A. Shirey, W, F, 57, VA Michael, you said you could not find what happened to Elizabeth Magadelene Sellers that married Jacob Shirey. I would venture to say that she has died by 1880 and Jacob is married to a Lucy A. Unknown. I'll try earlier census records and see if he is married to Elizabeth M. Sellers. Elizabeth Magadelene Sellers born March 1823, Augusta County, Virginia, is a sister to Jerome H. B. Sellers, children of John Conrad Sellers and Catherine Brown. Georgia