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    1. Re: [SELLERS] JAMES MANSON SELLERS 1831 Haywood Co., NC dna test results
    2. In a message dated 7/12/09 3:40:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk writes: > Margaret UNK + John Sellers b. abt. 1758 What is the birth year for John Sellers based on? If this is the John Sellers son of Robert Sellers, Sr, last found in Burke Co., NC, from census (1790 Jn'o Sellers 1 m over 16, 12 m und 16, 1 f, 1800 - John Sellers 4 m 0 to und. 10, 1 m 10 to und. 16, 1 m 26 to und. 45// 2 f o to und. 10, 1 f 26 to und. 45) If you compare it with the number of children, and ages of his other siblings who are married and in established households, he was most likely born around the same time frame as Robert Sellers, Jr whose household had 1 m over 16, and 5 females in 1790, Rebekah Sellers Wilkerson/Moses Wilkerson has 1 m over 16, 3 females, Sarah Sellers Hall/Joshua Hall who has 1 m. over 16, 2 m und. 16, and 1 female. Brother James Sellers has 1 m. over 16, 1 male under 16 and 4 females. Possibly James is older, but I don't know his birthdate. (Might help if we can every discover the year Robert Sellers, Sr was born and his wife and their marriage date.) Rebeckah Sellers Wilkerson born 25 Feb. 1765 Robert Sellers born 10 March 1766 Sarah Sellers Hall born appx. 1768 John possibly born before Rebeckah in 1763 - 64 or after Sarah in 1769-70. I also noticed something while I was looking through all my data. I hadn't followed all Robert Sellers, Jr.'s children very thoroughly. I just realized that Robert Sellers was married once before he married Sarah "Sally" Hall, 29 Apr 1793 in Burke Co., NC. The first 4 children are from the first marriage: Elizabeth 12 May 1785 Sarah 22 Mar 1787 Rebecca 4 Dec 1788 Ann 28 Mar 1790 The first child with Sarah Hall was John b. 13 Jun 1794 Burke Co., NC. In light of this, plus the reference made in the John Hall letters, dated 21 Nov. 1783, where he refers to "Robert and John Sellers is gone with their family", that he may have been referring to the sons of Robert Sellers, Sr. Which leads back to the question of whether the marriages of the Sellers children that a bond hasn't been found for in North Carolina records, such as Moses Wilkerson and Rebeckah Sellers, Joshua Hall and Sarah Sellers, Robert Sellers, Jr and the first unnamed wife, and possibly the marriage of John Sellers to possibly Margaret, may have taken place in Sullivan Co., TN. Unfortunately Sullivan Co, NC/TN records are scant from early haphazard record keeping, and it is also a "burned" county (from the Civil War) as was Burke Co., NC. Such a puzzle! Charmaine ************** An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585090x1201462820/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62& bcd=JulyExcfooterNO62)

    07/12/2009 06:31:49
    1. Re: [SELLERS] JAMES MANSON SELLERS 1831 Haywood Co., NC dna test results
    2. Eldon J. Edgin
    3. Is this the same group of Sellers who ended up in Grainger County, Tennessee? Eldon J. Edgin 14908 Woodbriar Drive Dallas, Texas 75248 Phone: (972) 991-4891 eedgin@sbcglobal.net or eldon@edgin.org ----- Original Message ----- From: <NOINTELLG@aol.com> To: <sellers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] JAMES MANSON SELLERS 1831 Haywood Co.,NC dna test results > In a message dated 7/12/09 3:40:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk writes: > >> Margaret UNK + John Sellers b. abt. 1758 > > What is the birth year for John Sellers based on? If this is the John > Sellers son of Robert Sellers, Sr, last found in Burke Co., NC, from > census > (1790 Jn'o Sellers 1 m over 16, 12 m und 16, 1 f, 1800 - John Sellers 4 m > 0 to > und. 10, 1 m 10 to und. 16, 1 m 26 to und. 45// 2 f o to und. 10, 1 f 26 > to > und. 45) If you compare it with the number of children, and ages of his > other siblings who are married and in established households, he was most > likely born around the same time frame as Robert Sellers, Jr whose > household had > 1 m over 16, and 5 females in 1790, Rebekah Sellers Wilkerson/Moses > Wilkerson has 1 m over 16, 3 females, Sarah Sellers Hall/Joshua Hall who > has 1 m. > over 16, 2 m und. 16, and 1 female. Brother James Sellers has 1 m. over > 16, 1 > male under 16 and 4 females. Possibly James is older, but I don't know > his > birthdate. (Might help if we can every discover the year Robert Sellers, > Sr > was born and his wife and their marriage date.) > > Rebeckah Sellers Wilkerson born 25 Feb. 1765 > Robert Sellers born 10 March 1766 > Sarah Sellers Hall born appx. 1768 > > John possibly born before Rebeckah in 1763 - 64 or after Sarah in 1769-70. > > I also noticed something while I was looking through all my data. I hadn't > followed all Robert Sellers, Jr.'s children very thoroughly. I just > realized > that Robert Sellers was married once before he married Sarah "Sally" Hall, > 29 Apr 1793 in Burke Co., NC. The first 4 children are from the first > marriage: > > Elizabeth 12 May 1785 > Sarah 22 Mar 1787 > Rebecca 4 Dec 1788 > Ann 28 Mar 1790 > > The first child with Sarah Hall was John b. 13 Jun 1794 Burke Co., NC. > > In light of this, plus the reference made in the John Hall letters, dated > 21 Nov. 1783, where he refers to "Robert and John Sellers is gone with > their > family", that he may have been referring to the sons of Robert Sellers, > Sr. > > Which leads back to the question of whether the marriages of the Sellers > children that a bond hasn't been found for in North Carolina records, such > as > Moses Wilkerson and Rebeckah Sellers, Joshua Hall and Sarah Sellers, > Robert > Sellers, Jr and the first unnamed wife, and possibly the marriage of John > Sellers to possibly Margaret, may have taken place in Sullivan Co., TN. > Unfortunately Sullivan Co, NC/TN records are scant from early haphazard > record > keeping, and it is also a "burned" county (from the Civil War) as was > Burke > Co., NC. > > Such a puzzle! > > Charmaine > > > > > ************** > An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy > Steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585090x1201462820/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&amp;hmpgID=62&amp; > bcd=JulyExcfooterNO62) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/13/2009 03:04:10
    1. Re: [SELLERS] JAMES MANSON SELLERS 1831 Haywood Co., NC dna test results
    2. Linda Peacock
    3. I´m not sure where the ca. birth date comes from. I wonder if it comes from the ca. date of birth of John Sellers of Saucon, PA? If the Margaret Sellers in Macon Co., NC in 1840 is the Margaret who md. John Sellers, son of Robert, Sr., she was b. 1760-1770. She could have been somewhat older than John but likely not much older, so that gives some sort of time frame. Yep. Think we need to search for whatever we can find in TN and unfortunately, early records are sparse there. Irene M. Griffey´s book, "Earliest Tennessee Land Records and Earliest Tennessee Land History" might provide some answers. Otherwise, for example, Bedford Co. TN´s Court house burned 1837/8 or so, and all court records for that Co. prior to 1837/8, were lost. So many complications. But if it were too easy it wouldn´t be as much fun figuring out. Linda -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af NOINTELLG@aol.com Sendt: 13. juli 2009 06:32 Til: sellers@rootsweb.com Emne: Re: [SELLERS] JAMES MANSON SELLERS 1831 Haywood Co.,NC dna test results In a message dated 7/12/09 3:40:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk writes: > Margaret UNK + John Sellers b. abt. 1758 What is the birth year for John Sellers based on? If this is the John Sellers son of Robert Sellers, Sr, last found in Burke Co., NC, from census (1790 Jn'o Sellers 1 m over 16, 12 m und 16, 1 f, 1800 - John Sellers 4 m 0 to und. 10, 1 m 10 to und. 16, 1 m 26 to und. 45// 2 f o to und. 10, 1 f 26 to und. 45) If you compare it with the number of children, and ages of his other siblings who are married and in established households, he was most likely born around the same time frame as Robert Sellers, Jr whose household had 1 m over 16, and 5 females in 1790, Rebekah Sellers Wilkerson/Moses Wilkerson has 1 m over 16, 3 females, Sarah Sellers Hall/Joshua Hall who has 1 m. over 16, 2 m und. 16, and 1 female. Brother James Sellers has 1 m. over 16, 1 male under 16 and 4 females. Possibly James is older, but I don't know his birthdate. (Might help if we can every discover the year Robert Sellers, Sr was born and his wife and their marriage date.) Rebeckah Sellers Wilkerson born 25 Feb. 1765 Robert Sellers born 10 March 1766 Sarah Sellers Hall born appx. 1768 John possibly born before Rebeckah in 1763 - 64 or after Sarah in 1769-70. I also noticed something while I was looking through all my data. I hadn't followed all Robert Sellers, Jr.'s children very thoroughly. I just realized that Robert Sellers was married once before he married Sarah "Sally" Hall, 29 Apr 1793 in Burke Co., NC. The first 4 children are from the first marriage: Elizabeth 12 May 1785 Sarah 22 Mar 1787 Rebecca 4 Dec 1788 Ann 28 Mar 1790 The first child with Sarah Hall was John b. 13 Jun 1794 Burke Co., NC. In light of this, plus the reference made in the John Hall letters, dated 21 Nov. 1783, where he refers to "Robert and John Sellers is gone with their family", that he may have been referring to the sons of Robert Sellers, Sr. Which leads back to the question of whether the marriages of the Sellers children that a bond hasn't been found for in North Carolina records, such as Moses Wilkerson and Rebeckah Sellers, Joshua Hall and Sarah Sellers, Robert Sellers, Jr and the first unnamed wife, and possibly the marriage of John Sellers to possibly Margaret, may have taken place in Sullivan Co., TN. Unfortunately Sullivan Co, NC/TN records are scant from early haphazard record keeping, and it is also a "burned" county (from the Civil War) as was Burke Co., NC. Such a puzzle! Charmaine ************** An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585090x1201462820/aol?redir=htt p://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&amp;hmpgID=62&amp; bcd=JulyExcfooterNO62) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/13/2009 11:02:35