In addition to Frederick Scantling there were two others (from the WW I & II draft cards) born in Crozet, Virginia that may be brothers. Harry Randolph Scantling, 15 Oct 1891, Crozet, Virginia Jennings Scantling, born 29 Aug 1896, Crozet, Virginia (His WW II card shows "Hofpmon" as a middle name) I may be going off track here on the Sellers list. Can't find either of them in 1900. Jim ________________________________ From: Michael Sellers <muckham11@yahoo.com> To: sellers@rootsweb..com Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 6:24:42 PM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed Well, that's a really good idea.  Unfortunately, my source(s) for obits is rather non-existent, and I have been unable to find anything for them on the net.  One of these days I'll probably have to pry open my wallet and get an Ancestry subscription, but for now I don't have one.  And, I haven't found a good source for obits elsewhere online.   Michael --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Georgia L. Fletcher <chickfletcher@comcast.net> wrote: From: Georgia L. Fletcher <chickfletcher@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:20 PM Michael, have you tried to find an obit in the home newpaper in Virginia.  I would think their hometown in VA would have an obit and probably mention parents and siblings since this is where they lived for so long before moving to CA. Georgia #1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Sellers" <muckham11@yahoo.com> To: <sellers@rootsweb.com>; "Sherri" <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > Thanks again for the great info. We'll keep swinging at it and hopefully > the names of his parents will fall out of the tree at some point. > > Sherri, thanks much for the .PDF copies of Carrie's obituary and of Fred's > death notice. > Carrie's obit does indeed state that she was born on October 2, 1889, > however, that was in error. She was born on that date in 1880, not 1889. > Plus, it's kind of difficult to be 84 years old in 1965 with a birth year > of 1889. > > I have yet to locate Frederick on any record prior to the 1910 Census, > although I do know that Fred and Carrie were married on the homestead of > her father in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia, on February 10, 1909. > I guess we're down to a birth record or their marriage record being > located as opportunities to find out Fred's parents. > > Michael > > --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > From: Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> > Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > To: "'Michael Sellers'" <muckham11@yahoo.com>, sellers@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 8:01 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ve received the obits of Frederick and Carrie. Unfortunately, they don’t > shed a lot of light. > > From the Hemet News June 6, 1965, p. 8 > > Services Held in San Jacinto for Carrie Scantling > > Services were held Saturday morning in Harford Funeral Home in San Jacinto > for Mrs. Carrie Haolland Scantling, 84, who passed away Wednesday in a > Riverside hospital.. The Rev. William Thomas officiated at the rites, and > burial was in San Jacinto Valley Cemetery. > > Churchville, Virginia was Mrs. Scantling’s birthplace on October 2, 1889. > She had been a resident of this area for 12 years, living at 265 East > Third street, San Jacinto. > > She is survived by her widower, Frederick W. Scantling; a son, Frederick > II, of Los Angeles, and three grandchildren. > > From the Hemet News, 5 June 1973, p. 3: > > Services Pending > Funeral services are pending at the Harford Funeral Home for Frederick W. > Scantling, 87, who died Monday at Hemet Community Hospital. > > Sorry these are not more help. They did send me both of these as pdf > files, so if you want copies, just let me know. > > Sherri > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Michael Sellers > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:45 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > Sherri, > > That's awesome and much appreciated. I'll look forward to seeing if it can > be located. > > --- On Sun, 8/23/09, Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > From: Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 5:39 AM > > > I've requested a copy of his obituary through RAOGK. Hopefully it will > shed > some light on his family - parents and siblings. Will send when I receive. > > Sherri > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of marie sellers hollinger > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 10:52 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > I was afraid of that. > You have already done pretty complete job. > Riverside, CA usgenweb, ask for help, if they lived there very long. > I didn't check city directories and my old newspapers aren't working > tonite, but, didn't see on a fast search and didn't see on obit indexes > that I have. > > Kids of C.W. = followed up in census? I am sure you have. You do good > work. > > He isn't a CW age, but Scantlings in CW? > > Best wishes, marie, iowa > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Michael Sellers > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:46 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > > The California Death Certificate abstract for Frederick William > Scantling is blank concerning the names of his parents. > > Michael > > --- On Sat, 8/22/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: > > > From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 9:13 PM > > > I believe I would try the death certificate, as suggested earlier. > Thanks, marie, iowa > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Michael Sellers > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:06 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > > First off, thanks for the efforts and help. It is much appreciated. > > Marie & all, > Carrie Holland Sellers was the 14th of 14 children born to Jerome Howard > Brown Sellers (Nov. 14, 1825 - Feb. 27, 1910) and Margaret Rebecca Bell > (Nov. 2, 1832 - June 17, 1907). Carrie was born in Churchville, Augusta > County, Virginia, on October 2, 1880, and died in Riverside County, > California, on June 2, 1965. > > Carrie married Frederick William Scantling on February 10, 1909, at the > home of her parents in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. I do not > know where the Marriage License was obtained. However, given that they > were married in Augusta County, it's more than likely that the License > was obtained there. Perhaps there is a Marriage Record for them in > Augusta County and possibly it was name/list Fred's parents? > > Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, in Albemarle > County, Virginia. His World War I Draft Registration card listed the > specific town in Albemarle in which he was born as "Crozet" (pronounced > Kro-zay). There were two Scantling families in that area into the > 1930s. One family, that of Charles W. Scantling, possibly could've been > Fred's father. > > One of Fred's grandsons recently stated that Fred had at least 4 or > 5 sisters; Mildred Minnie, Lydia, Ethel, Hattie, and Luttie. > > 1880 Census records for Albemarle County, Virginia, list the household > of "Chs W. Scaustine" with wife "Milly" and daughter, "Minna A.". A > look at the actual census page shows the last name to have indeed been > "Scantling". > > A birth record via Familysearch.org show that a "Lydia Scantling" was > born on May 27, 1881, in Albemarle County, Virginia, to "Chs W. > Scantling" and wife "Milly". Another records shows that an "Ethel > Scantling" was born in 1889 to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly". So, > it's possible that Fred's father was Charles W. Scantling, however, I > have found nothing to confirm this. > > Charles W. Scantling does not appear on the 1900 Census, at least not > that I can find. Per the 1880, 1910, 1920, & 1930 censuses, Charles W. > Scantling was born circa 1860 in Virginia. On those censuses, he was > always listed in Albemarle County, Virginia. I believe he was the son > of William A. Scantling and Elizabeth Clark. > > C. W. Scantling appears on the 1910 Census for Albemarle County, > Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman. > > Charles W. Scantling appears on the 1920 Census for Albemarle County, > Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman. > > Charlie W. Scantling appears on the 1930 Census for Albemarle County, > Virginia, as widowed with sons Jennings and Norman living in the > household. Daughter Nora had married Daniel O'Conell Bishop. > > If Charles was indeed Fred's father, then it appears that 1st wife > "Milly" possibly died and Charles then remarried to Maggie. > Unfortunately, I cannot for the life of me locate Charles W. Scantling > on the 1900 Census to see who is listed in his household, specifically > Frederick William Scantling. > > Frederick William Scantling died in Riverside County, California, on > June 4, 1973, at the age of 86. I have no sources for checking for an > Obituary.. If someone has access to Obits, perhaps Fred's obit from > 1973 can be obtained and maybe his parents are listed? > > Family bible records kept by Fred's wife, Carrie Holland (Sellers) > Scantling, do not list the names of Fred's parents. Darn it! > > Michael Sellers > > --- On Wed, 8/19/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: > > > From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 10:48 PM > > > MICHAEL, > Carol's suggestion on death certificate is probably best. > AND also Carrie's death certificat is here also with no info on CA death > report. WHO are her parents?? > > Other info I see = > > 1900 > > Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in > Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. > > 1910 > Carrie Scantling Fred Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1882 Virginia > Wife,both parents VA > Fred Scantling Carrie Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1887 Virginia > Head ,both parents VA John Plaine/BLAINE 23 VA, BROTHER, BOTH PARENTS VA > ca WHO IS THIS??? > > > WW 1 > Frederick Wm Scantling 20 Jan 1887 Caucasian (White) Virginia;United > States of America Augusta, VA born CROZET, VA (Albemarle Co., msh) > MACHINEST FOR STAUNTON MACHINE, STAUNTON, VA WIFE AND ONE CHILD, > PARTIALLY BLIND MED HEIGHT, MED BUILD, BROWN EYES, BLACK HAIR, PARTIALLY > BLIND === 1920 Staunton Ward 1, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia > Fred E Scantling 31 > Carrie Scantling 38 > Fred Scantling 2 6/12 > > > 1930 Staunton, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia > Fred W Scantling 44 > Carrie H Scantling 49 > Frederick H Scantling 13 > > == > Security Death Index > Name: Fred Scantling > SSN: 227-34-1322 > Last Residence: 92383 San Jacinto, Riverside, California, United > States of America > Born: 20 Jan 1887 > Died: Jun 1973 > State (Year) SSN issued: Virginia (Before 1951) > > > Carrie H Scantling 2 Jun 1965 Riverside 2 Oct 1880 Virginia DEATH > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Michael Sellers > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:20 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > > I'm trying to identify the parents and any possible siblings of > Frederick William Scantling, husband of Carrie Holland Sellers. I'm > wondering if anyone with access to Ancestry records can lend me a hand.. > > Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, presumably in > Augusta County, Virginia, but it may have been in neighboring Albemarle > County, Virginia. > > Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in > Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. After a brief move to Dayton, > Ohio, in 1910, they had returned "home" to Augusta County, Virginia, by > 1917 when "Frederick Wm.. Scantling" filled out his World War I Draft > Registration card. > > I cannot find Fred on the 1900 Census and have been totally unable to > identify his parents. Fred and Carrie had one son, Frederick Holland > Scantling, who in turn had 4 children. I have spoken with the 4 > grandchildren, and they are just as stumped. The Family Bible kept by > Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling oddly did not list the name of Fred's > parents either. > > I would truly appreciate any assistance and/or record look-ups by those > with access that can unravel this mini-mystery and identify the names of > Frederick William Scantling's parents. > > Thanks! > > Michael Sellers > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message