SELLERS/SELLARS are the same. Our families spelled it like they wanted AFTER they learned to spell. I've seen brothers spell their names different! BEFORE, it was spelled as it sounded to whoever wrote it down. YOUR paper trails and your dna will Prove you to your line. CARL SELLERS dna 14803 THOMAS SELLERS dna 14438 will show their connections to DAVID SELLERS. IF YOU do NOT reply to ALL, add georgia = chickfletcher@comcast.net tom sellars = tsellars@hlsk.com carl sellars = <mailto:sellarsshop@verizon.net> sellarsshop@verizon.net they should probably go thro the Sellers group with a different subject line. you don't know who all can help, until you share with all. Continue on, can't respond to each message right now. you are doing good. hope this helps all. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: Linda Peacock [mailto:lindaleepeacock@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:12 PM To: sellersj@swbell.net Cc: Marie Sellers Holinger; Margaret Freeman Subject: Re: Fw: Re: DNA match I think this may be correct but we don't have much as to connecting the David line. Linda On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:36 PM, J SELLERS <sellersj@swbell.net> wrote: Hi Linda, Marie, Margaret: I have made contact with Carl Elbert Sellars (not Sellers) who has an exact 12 marker DNA match with me on FTDNA. Here is his reply. Does this help us in any way? Jack --- On Mon, 9/21/09, CARL E SELLARS <sellarsshop@verizon.net> wrote: From: CARL E SELLARS <sellarsshop@verizon.net> Subject: Re: DNA match To: sellersj@swbell.net Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 4:43 PM Jack, you would not believe how many ways to spell a Seller. The earliest versions that I am aware of is Seller/Seler and Sellar/Sellars. We probably began as Sellars, since our latest common ancestor, Robert Sellars sr spelled ars. Indeed, all of Robert's family spelled ars. The ers began largely in the early 1800s. Many of the later Sellars generations were uneducated, so outsiders spelled as it sounds, ers. A good example is the town of Sellersburg, IN. A descendant of Robert sr of Burke founded the town of Sellarsborough, IN located just across the Ohio river from Louisville, KY , a town that still thrives. Stewart (Stu) Sellers who is on our DNA list is a descendant of Moses Sellars who founded now Sellersburg, IN...but I digress. Robert sr's father is probably Thomas Sellars, born about 1710 in VA USA; lived in VA last at Pattersons creek valley where he was in the French and Indian war; lived in Orange, NC 1753-1771; lived in the 96th district, SC which later became Edgefield, SC during the Revolutionary war, dying in Edgefield, SC about 1797. I believe Thomas had two families, Robert sr of Burke and his siblings mostly living in Chatham NC are the first family while Howell, Silas, William and Samuel make up the second family living in Edgefield, SC. I am trying to locate living descendant males of Thomas' second family to determine whether there are DNA matches. Your branch off Robert sr is John, first family while my branch is David who could be off either of Thomas' families. My David who was also born about 1758 could be the eldest of the second family, a grandson or a son of Thomas. CUL Carl ( I will mail to you the germane part of my 2007 Sellars family history update).. --- On Wed, 9/16/09, J SELLERS <sellersj@swbell.net> wrote: From: J SELLERS <sellersj@swbell.net> Subject: Re: DNA match To: "CARL E SELLARS" <sellarsshop@verizon.net> Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 7:42 PM Hi Carl: Below is my paternal line as I know it now. Hope some of these names sound familiar. One of my relatives believes that "Sellars" was changed to "Sellers" a few generations ago. Maybe you will have discovered something similar. Please call me again or write if you think I can help. Jackie (aka Jack) Leroy Sellers 6219 S Oswego Ave Tulsa, OK 74136-1530 918-496-7774 H 918-691-3285 C Jack's Paternal Line July 2009 Posted by Marie Sellers Holinger on FTDNA Site JACKIE LEROY SELLERS <http://us.mc844.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellersj@swbell.net> sellersj@swbell.net son of Charley (NMI) Sellers b. 22 May 1903 <http://www.sellers-sellars-sollars-zellars.net/okcraig.htm> Craig Co. OK, d. 31 JUL 1953, Oklahoma City, <http://www.sellers-sellars-sollars-zellars.net/okokla.htm> Oklahoma Co. OK, (St Anthony's Hospital) buried in the I.O.O.F. Cemetery, Blackwell, Kay Co, OK son of Nathan Elmore Sellers b. 19 Nov 1865 <http://www.sellers-sellars-sollars-zellars.net/tncoffee.htm> Coffee Co. TN, m. <http://www.sellers-sellars-sollars-zellars.net/momcdon.htm> McDonald Co., Mo, d. 18 Sep 1929, <http://www.sellers-sellars-sollars-zellars.net/okkay.htm> Kay Co., OK son of James Manson (or Madison??) Sellers b. 1831 <http://www.sellers-sellars-sollars-zellars.net/nchay.htm> Haywood Co., NC, d. AFT 1880 son of James Sellers b. ABT 1796 Haywood Co., NC, d. BEF 1850 + Jane Thompson b. 24 Apr 1797, Rutherford Co. NC, d. AFT 1870 and BEF 1880, Tippah Co., MS son of John Sellers b. ABT 1758 NC, d. BEF 1840 NC + Margaret UNK son of Robert Sellers, Sr. d. 1800/1810 <http://www.sellers-sellars-sollars-zellars.net/ncburke.htm> Burke Co., NC + Sarah UNK --- On Wed, 9/16/09, CARL E SELLARS <sellarsshop@verizon.net> wrote: From: CARL E SELLARS <sellarsshop@verizon.net> Subject: Re: DNA match To: sellersj@swbell.net Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 5:03 PM Hi Jack;;;just got off the phone with you;;;I cannot download your attachment, because I am lacking the proper computer program. I am anxious to find out your Sellars line. Your e-mail effort will beappreciated. C U next time, Carl. --- On Fri, 8/21/09, J SELLERS <sellersj@swbell.net> wrote: From: J SELLERS <sellersj@swbell.net> Subject: Re: DNA match To: "CARL E SELLARS" <sellarsshop@verizon.net> Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 11:32 AM Hi Carl: Will attempt to call you this afternoon. Meanwhile, attached is a copy of my "line" as I know it today. Jack Sellers, P.E., EdD 6219 S Oswego Ave Tulsa, OK 74136-1530 918-496-7774 H 918-691-3285 C --- On Fri, 8/21/09, CARL E SELLARS <sellarsshop@verizon.net> wrote: From: CARL E SELLARS <sellarsshop@verizon.net> Subject: DNA match To: sellersj@swbell.net Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 9:10 AM Hello relative...my name is Carl Sellars. My phone number is 888-893-2163, would love to talk with you about our kin...how we are related...and an exchange of any info we might have that the other does not. I have been actively doing Sellars/Sellers genealogy for over 20 years acumulating loads of info on our line. Look forward to chatting with you at your earliest convience. Thank You....Carl Sellars