FYI, I received this email through the Sellers List. Jack Sellers At 11:40 AM 6/2/2009, you wrote: >Carol, > >I ahve not been following the Sellers Y-DNA tests but think from what I have >heard, that we lack testing of these lines. Would also like to point out, >that for some reason, these messages are not going through the list. I >thought I sent my message via the Sellers list, so all could see it, but >perhaps not. If we want to reach potential Sellers Y-DNA testers we need to >post to the list. And otherwise, I find it confounding that NONE of ny >Sellers male lines have been on the boards anywhere as to pursuing their >ancestry, though I know there must be some out there. So that makes it hard >to track them down and ask them to take a test. > >Linda > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] På >vegne af Carol Herbert >Sendt: 2. juni 2009 18:03 >Til: sellers@rootsweb.com >Emne: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween JamesT/YSellers >and brother, Robert Sellers > >Do we have anyone in the DNA group that tests back to this James T. or James >Sr. who married Patience in Chatham County? I see Laird and Young, whom I >assume are James. Sr. sons...according to Chatham County Deeds. Is this >right...or these simply Sellers from another part of the state with the same >given names? > > > > >________________________________ >From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> >To: sellers@rootsweb.com >Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:50:49 AM >Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James >T/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers > >It´s an mtDNA test. It´s hard with an mtDNA test to chose a particular >surmname group. My test has been uploaded to the Cumberland gap group. I >haven´t heard from him in awhile. I might ask him to join the Cumberland Gap >group too. My known line would be Black > Thompson > Sellers. His would be >Parker > Sellers to Hammond, if I recall. No, I don´t think the connection >is documented, but Y-DNA testing of the 2 Sellers lines would do that, if we >could find male descendants to take the test. > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] På >vegne af Carol Herbert >Sendt: 1. juni 2009 21:39 >Til: sellers@rootsweb.com >Emne: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James >T/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers > >What is the name/kit number of the match on the Sellers DNA results? I very >interested in the James Sr. who married Patience, whom I believe to be the >brother of Robert. Is this conection documented? > > > > >________________________________ >From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> >To: sellers@rootsweb.com; SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com >Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 4:36:51 AM >Subject: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James T/Y >Sellers and brother, Robert Sellers > > > > >I thought this might interest those connected with these families. Looks >like I do have a possible mtDNA match. If I understand the Sellers info >correctly, Patience Parker md. James T/Y Sellers (my matche´s line) and >James T/Y Sellers was brother of Robert Sellers > John Sellers > James >Sellers + Jane Thompson (my line). Richard Parker, father of Patience left a >will mentioning Patience and her sisters but not the mother. None of the >sisters match Elizabeth, so any link would have to be back to mother of UNK >who md. Richard Parker and Elizabeth who md. Thomas Black. Something to work >on at any rate. > >Linda > > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: Linda Peacock [mailto:lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk] >Sendt: 1. juni 2009 13:25 >Til: 'DNA-ANTHROGENEALOGY@yahoogroups.com' >Emne: TMRCA Calculation and Use of Full mtDNA + paper trails > >http://dna-project.clan-donald-usa.org/tmrca.htm > >To all, am sending link to calculation I just did based on a comparison of >my full mtDNA test with that of a person I sought out. He matched me as to >HVR1 and HVR2 found him at Kerschner´s log) + his known paper trail matched >mine as to a common female surname and place, where my female ancestors >were. We upgraded his test to a full test and at first, I was disappointed >because I was thinking that we had to have a complete match for there to be >any chance of us sharing a common female ancestor within the time frame of >surnames. We are 3 markers "off" in the CR (I have 2 mutations he doesn´t >have and he has 1 that I don´t have). But I just stumbled on Charles´ page >as to calcualtion of a TMRCA based on mtDNA. His example was using only the >HVR1 and HVR2. My calculation is based on utilizing the fact that we are 3 >markers off as to 16569 base pairs (full MtDNA test). If I understand the >calculation correctly, the result is that we have a 98.2% chance of our >common ancestress being 9 generations back, which is just how far back we >are in time and place in the paper trails. That being said, we have still >not identified just who the common ancestress was. Mine (8 generations back) >is an Elizabeth UNK b. before 1749 who md. Thomas Black. His is an UNK who >md. Richard Parker and who had Patience Parker b. 1742. From paper trails, >we know that Elizabeth was not Patience´s sister, so we have to go at least >one more generation back (so 9 generations back, which also fits as to the >test results) and thus, still have to figure out who this UNK was who md. >Richard Parker or who Elizabeth was who md. Thomas Black (they were perhaps >sisters). Fortunately, we have some good genealogists in the family and I >think there is a good chance of finding out who Elizabeth was. On a further >note as to the usefulness of mtDNA, HVR1 + HVR2 tests have been performed in >descendants of female siblings of Esther Black of Thomas Black + Elizabeth >UNK, and confirm siblingship. > >Linda > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the >word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Jack for forwarding. -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sellers Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:36 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween JamesT/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers FYI, I received this email through the Sellers List. Jack Sellers At 11:40 AM 6/2/2009, you wrote: >Carol, > >I ahve not been following the Sellers Y-DNA tests but think from what I >have heard, that we lack testing of these lines. Would also like to >point out, that for some reason, these messages are not going through >the list. I thought I sent my message via the Sellers list, so all >could see it, but perhaps not. If we want to reach potential Sellers >Y-DNA testers we need to post to the list. And otherwise, I find it >confounding that NONE of ny Sellers male lines have been on the boards >anywhere as to pursuing their ancestry, though I know there must be >some out there. So that makes it hard to track them down and ask them to take a test. > >Linda > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] >På vegne af Carol Herbert >Sendt: 2. juni 2009 18:03 >Til: sellers@rootsweb.com >Emne: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween >JamesT/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers > >Do we have anyone in the DNA group that tests back to this James T. or >James Sr. who married Patience in Chatham County? I see Laird and >Young, whom I assume are James. Sr. sons...according to Chatham County >Deeds. Is this right...or these simply Sellers from another part of >the state with the same given names? > > > > >________________________________ >From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> >To: sellers@rootsweb.com >Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:50:49 AM >Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James >T/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers > >It´s an mtDNA test. It´s hard with an mtDNA test to chose a particular >surmname group. My test has been uploaded to the Cumberland gap group. >I haven´t heard from him in awhile. I might ask him to join the >Cumberland Gap group too. My known line would be Black > Thompson > >Sellers. His would be Parker > Sellers to Hammond, if I recall. No, I >don´t think the connection is documented, but Y-DNA testing of the 2 >Sellers lines would do that, if we could find male descendants to take the test. > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] >På vegne af Carol Herbert >Sendt: 1. juni 2009 21:39 >Til: sellers@rootsweb.com >Emne: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James >T/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers > >What is the name/kit number of the match on the Sellers DNA results? I >very interested in the James Sr. who married Patience, whom I believe >to be the brother of Robert. Is this conection documented? > > > > >________________________________ >From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> >To: sellers@rootsweb.com; SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com >Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 4:36:51 AM >Subject: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James T/Y >Sellers and brother, Robert Sellers > > > > >I thought this might interest those connected with these families. >Looks like I do have a possible mtDNA match. If I understand the >Sellers info correctly, Patience Parker md. James T/Y Sellers (my >matche´s line) and James T/Y Sellers was brother of Robert Sellers > >John Sellers > James Sellers + Jane Thompson (my line). Richard Parker, >father of Patience left a will mentioning Patience and her sisters but >not the mother. None of the sisters match Elizabeth, so any link would >have to be back to mother of UNK who md. Richard Parker and Elizabeth >who md. Thomas Black. Something to work on at any rate. > >Linda > > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: Linda Peacock [mailto:lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk] >Sendt: 1. juni 2009 13:25 >Til: 'DNA-ANTHROGENEALOGY@yahoogroups.com' >Emne: TMRCA Calculation and Use of Full mtDNA + paper trails > >http://dna-project.clan-donald-usa.org/tmrca.htm > >To all, am sending link to calculation I just did based on a comparison >of my full mtDNA test with that of a person I sought out. He matched me >as to >HVR1 and HVR2 found him at Kerschner´s log) + his known paper trail >matched mine as to a common female surname and place, where my female >ancestors were. We upgraded his test to a full test and at first, I was >disappointed because I was thinking that we had to have a complete >match for there to be any chance of us sharing a common female ancestor >within the time frame of surnames. We are 3 markers "off" in the CR (I >have 2 mutations he doesn´t have and he has 1 that I don´t have). But I >just stumbled on Charles´ page as to calcualtion of a TMRCA based on >mtDNA. His example was using only the >HVR1 and HVR2. My calculation is based on utilizing the fact that we >are 3 markers off as to 16569 base pairs (full MtDNA test). If I >understand the calculation correctly, the result is that we have a >98.2% chance of our common ancestress being 9 generations back, which >is just how far back we are in time and place in the paper trails. That >being said, we have still not identified just who the common ancestress >was. Mine (8 generations back) is an Elizabeth UNK b. before 1749 who >md. Thomas Black. His is an UNK who md. Richard Parker and who had >Patience Parker b. 1742. From paper trails, we know that Elizabeth was >not Patience´s sister, so we have to go at least one more generation >back (so 9 generations back, which also fits as to the test results) and thus, still have to figure out who this UNK was who md. >Richard Parker or who Elizabeth was who md. Thomas Black (they were >perhaps sisters). Fortunately, we have some good genealogists in the >family and I think there is a good chance of finding out who Elizabeth >was. On a further note as to the usefulness of mtDNA, HVR1 + HVR2 tests >have been performed in descendants of female siblings of Esther Black >of Thomas Black + Elizabeth UNK, and confirm siblingship. > >Linda > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you want to know if your post went through, go back to Rootsweb and check the archives. Gracie ________________________________ From: Jack Sellers <Jack-Sellers@comcast.net> To: sellers@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 3:35:50 PM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween JamesT/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers FYI, I received this email through the Sellers List. Jack Sellers At 11:40 AM 6/2/2009, you wrote: >Carol, > >I ahve not been following the Sellers Y-DNA tests but think from what I have >heard, that we lack testing of these lines. Would also like to point out, >that for some reason, these messages are not going through the list. I >thought I sent my message via the Sellers list, so all could see it, but >perhaps not. If we want to reach potential Sellers Y-DNA testers we need to >post to the list. And otherwise, I find it confounding that NONE of ny >Sellers male lines have been on the boards anywhere as to pursuing their >ancestry, though I know there must be some out there. So that makes it hard >to track them down and ask them to take a test. > >Linda > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] På >vegne af Carol Herbert >Sendt: 2. juni 2009 18:03 >Til: sellers@rootsweb.com >Emne: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween JamesT/YSellers >and brother, Robert Sellers > >Do we have anyone in the DNA group that tests back to this James T. or James >Sr. who married Patience in Chatham County? I see Laird and Young, whom I >assume are James. Sr. sons...according to Chatham County Deeds. Is this >right...or these simply Sellers from another part of the state with the same >given names? > > > > >________________________________ >From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> >To: sellers@rootsweb.com >Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:50:49 AM >Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James >T/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers > >It´s an mtDNA test. It´s hard with an mtDNA test to chose a particular >surmname group. My test has been uploaded to the Cumberland gap group. I >haven´t heard from him in awhile. I might ask him to join the Cumberland Gap >group too. My known line would be Black > Thompson > Sellers. His would be >Parker > Sellers to Hammond, if I recall. No, I don´t think the connection >is documented, but Y-DNA testing of the 2 Sellers lines would do that, if we >could find male descendants to take the test. > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] På >vegne af Carol Herbert >Sendt: 1. juni 2009 21:39 >Til: sellers@rootsweb.com >Emne: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James >T/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers > >What is the name/kit number of the match on the Sellers DNA results? I very >interested in the James Sr. who married Patience, whom I believe to be the >brother of Robert. Is this conection documented? > > > > >________________________________ >From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> >To: sellers@rootsweb.com; SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com >Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 4:36:51 AM >Subject: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James T/Y >Sellers and brother, Robert Sellers > > > > >I thought this might interest those connected with these families. Looks >like I do have a possible mtDNA match. If I understand the Sellers info >correctly, Patience Parker md. James T/Y Sellers (my matche´s line) and >James T/Y Sellers was brother of Robert Sellers > John Sellers > James >Sellers + Jane Thompson (my line). Richard Parker, father of Patience left a >will mentioning Patience and her sisters but not the mother. None of the >sisters match Elizabeth, so any link would have to be back to mother of UNK >who md. Richard Parker and Elizabeth who md. Thomas Black. Something to work >on at any rate. > >Linda > > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: Linda Peacock [mailto:lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk] >Sendt: 1. juni 2009 13:25 >Til: 'DNA-ANTHROGENEALOGY@yahoogroups.com' >Emne: TMRCA Calculation and Use of Full mtDNA + paper trails > >http://dna-project.clan-donald-usa.org/tmrca.htm > >To all, am sending link to calculation I just did based on a comparison of >my full mtDNA test with that of a person I sought out. He matched me as to >HVR1 and HVR2 found him at Kerschner´s log) + his known paper trail matched >mine as to a common female surname and place, where my female ancestors >were. We upgraded his test to a full test and at first, I was disappointed >because I was thinking that we had to have a complete match for there to be >any chance of us sharing a common female ancestor within the time frame of >surnames. We are 3 markers "off" in the CR (I have 2 mutations he doesn´t >have and he has 1 that I don´t have). But I just stumbled on Charles´ page >as to calcualtion of a TMRCA based on mtDNA. His example was using only the >HVR1 and HVR2. My calculation is based on utilizing the fact that we are 3 >markers off as to 16569 base pairs (full MtDNA test). If I understand the >calculation correctly, the result is that we have a 98.2% chance of our >common ancestress being 9 generations back, which is just how far back we >are in time and place in the paper trails. That being said, we have still >not identified just who the common ancestress was. Mine (8 generations back) >is an Elizabeth UNK b. before 1749 who md. Thomas Black. His is an UNK who >md. Richard Parker and who had Patience Parker b. 1742. From paper trails, >we know that Elizabeth was not Patience´s sister, so we have to go at least >one more generation back (so 9 generations back, which also fits as to the >test results) and thus, still have to figure out who this UNK was who md. >Richard Parker or who Elizabeth was who md. Thomas Black (they were perhaps >sisters). Fortunately, we have some good genealogists in the family and I >think there is a good chance of finding out who Elizabeth was. On a further >note as to the usefulness of mtDNA, HVR1 + HVR2 tests have been performed in >descendants of female siblings of Esther Black of Thomas Black + Elizabeth >UNK, and confirm siblingship. > >Linda > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the >word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message