First off, thanks for the efforts and help.  It is much appreciated.   Marie & all, Carrie Holland Sellers was the 14th of 14 children born to Jerome Howard Brown Sellers (Nov. 14, 1825 - Feb. 27, 1910) and Margaret Rebecca Bell (Nov. 2, 1832 - June 17, 1907). Carrie was born in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia, on October 2, 1880, and died in Riverside County, California, on June 2, 1965.   Carrie married Frederick William Scantling on February 10, 1909, at the home of her parents in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia.  I do not know where the Marriage License was obtained.  However, given that they were married in Augusta County, it's more than likely that the License was obtained there.  Perhaps there is a Marriage Record for them in Augusta County and possibly it was name/list Fred's parents?   Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, in Albemarle County, Virginia.  His World War I Draft Registration card listed the specific town in Albemarle in which he was born as "Crozet" (pronounced Kro-zay).  There were two Scantling families in that area into the 1930s.  One family, that of Charles W. Scantling, possibly could've been Fred's father.   One of Fred's grandsons recently stated that Fred had at least 4 or 5 sisters; Mildred Minnie, Lydia, Ethel, Hattie, and Luttie.   1880 Census records for Albemarle County, Virginia, list the household of "Chs W. Scaustine" with wife "Milly" and daughter, "Minna A.".  A look at the actual census page shows the last name to have indeed been "Scantling".   A birth record via Familysearch.org show that a "Lydia Scantling" was born on May 27, 1881, in Albemarle County, Virginia, to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly".  Another records shows that an "Ethel Scantling" was born in 1889 to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly".  So, it's possible that Fred's father was Charles W. Scantling, however, I have found nothing to confirm this.   Charles W. Scantling does not appear on the 1900 Census, at least not that I can find.  Per the 1880, 1910, 1920, & 1930 censuses, Charles W. Scantling was born circa 1860 in Virginia.  On those censuses, he was always listed in Albemarle County, Virginia.  I believe he was the son of William A. Scantling and Elizabeth Clark.   C. W. Scantling appears on the 1910 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman.   Charles W. Scantling appears on the 1920 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman.   Charlie W. Scantling appears on the 1930 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, as widowed with sons Jennings and Norman living in the household.  Daughter Nora had married Daniel O'Conell Bishop.   If Charles was indeed Fred's father, then it appears that 1st wife "Milly" possibly died and Charles then remarried to Maggie.  Unfortunately, I cannot for the life of me locate Charles W. Scantling on the 1900 Census to see who is listed in his household, specifically Frederick William Scantling.   Frederick William Scantling died in Riverside County, California, on June 4, 1973, at the age of 86.  I have no sources for checking for an Obituary..  If someone has access to Obits, perhaps Fred's obit from 1973 can be obtained and maybe his parents are listed?   Family bible records kept by Fred's wife, Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling, do not list the names of Fred's parents.  Darn it!   Michael Sellers --- On Wed, 8/19/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 10:48 PM MICHAEL, Carol's suggestion on death certificate is probably best. AND also Carrie's death certificat is here also with no info on CA death report. WHO are her parents?? Other info I see = 1900 Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. 1910 Carrie Scantling Fred Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1882 Virginia Wife,both parents VA  Fred Scantling Carrie Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1887 Virginia Head ,both parents VA John Plaine/BLAINE 23 VA, BROTHER, BOTH PARENTS VA ca WHO IS THIS??? WW 1 Frederick Wm Scantling 20 Jan 1887 Caucasian (White) Virginia;United States of America Augusta, VA born CROZET, VA (Albemarle Co., msh) MACHINEST FOR STAUNTON MACHINE, STAUNTON, VA WIFE AND ONE CHILD, PARTIALLY BLIND MED HEIGHT, MED BUILD, BROWN EYES, BLACK HAIR, PARTIALLY BLIND === 1920 Staunton Ward 1, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia Fred E Scantling 31 Carrie Scantling 38 Fred Scantling 2 6/12 1930 Staunton, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia Fred W Scantling 44 Carrie H Scantling 49 Frederick H Scantling 13 == Security Death Index Name:    Fred Scantling    SSN:    227-34-1322     Last Residence:    92383 San Jacinto, Riverside, California, United States of America    Born:    20 Jan 1887    Died:    Jun 1973    State (Year) SSN issued:    Virginia (Before 1951)            Carrie H Scantling 2 Jun 1965 Riverside 2 Oct 1880 Virginia  DEATH -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:20 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I'm trying to identify the parents and any possible siblings of Frederick William Scantling, husband of Carrie Holland Sellers.  I'm wondering if anyone with access to Ancestry records can lend me a hand.   Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, presumably in Augusta County, Virginia, but it may have been in neighboring Albemarle County, Virginia.   Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia.  After a brief move to Dayton, Ohio, in 1910, they had returned "home" to Augusta County, Virginia, by 1917 when "Frederick Wm. Scantling" filled out his World War I Draft Registration card.   I cannot find Fred on the 1900 Census and have been totally unable to identify his parents.  Fred and Carrie had one son, Frederick Holland Scantling, who in turn had 4 children.  I have spoken with the 4 grandchildren, and they are just as stumped.  The Family Bible kept by Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling oddly did not list the name of Fred's parents either.    I would truly appreciate any assistance and/or record look-ups by those with access that can unravel this mini-mystery and identify the names of Frederick William Scantling's parents.   Thanks!   Michael Sellers           ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I believe I would try the death certificate, as suggested earlier. Thanks, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:06 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed First off, thanks for the efforts and help.  It is much appreciated.   Marie & all, Carrie Holland Sellers was the 14th of 14 children born to Jerome Howard Brown Sellers (Nov. 14, 1825 - Feb. 27, 1910) and Margaret Rebecca Bell (Nov. 2, 1832 - June 17, 1907). Carrie was born in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia, on October 2, 1880, and died in Riverside County, California, on June 2, 1965.   Carrie married Frederick William Scantling on February 10, 1909, at the home of her parents in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia.  I do not know where the Marriage License was obtained.  However, given that they were married in Augusta County, it's more than likely that the License was obtained there.  Perhaps there is a Marriage Record for them in Augusta County and possibly it was name/list Fred's parents?   Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, in Albemarle County, Virginia.  His World War I Draft Registration card listed the specific town in Albemarle in which he was born as "Crozet" (pronounced Kro-zay).  There were two Scantling families in that area into the 1930s.  One family, that of Charles W. Scantling, possibly could've been Fred's father.   One of Fred's grandsons recently stated that Fred had at least 4 or 5 sisters; Mildred Minnie, Lydia, Ethel, Hattie, and Luttie.   1880 Census records for Albemarle County, Virginia, list the household of "Chs W. Scaustine" with wife "Milly" and daughter, "Minna A.".  A look at the actual census page shows the last name to have indeed been "Scantling".   A birth record via Familysearch.org show that a "Lydia Scantling" was born on May 27, 1881, in Albemarle County, Virginia, to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly".  Another records shows that an "Ethel Scantling" was born in 1889 to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly".  So, it's possible that Fred's father was Charles W. Scantling, however, I have found nothing to confirm this.   Charles W. Scantling does not appear on the 1900 Census, at least not that I can find.  Per the 1880, 1910, 1920, & 1930 censuses, Charles W. Scantling was born circa 1860 in Virginia.  On those censuses, he was always listed in Albemarle County, Virginia.  I believe he was the son of William A. Scantling and Elizabeth Clark.   C. W. Scantling appears on the 1910 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman.   Charles W. Scantling appears on the 1920 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman.   Charlie W. Scantling appears on the 1930 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, as widowed with sons Jennings and Norman living in the household.  Daughter Nora had married Daniel O'Conell Bishop.   If Charles was indeed Fred's father, then it appears that 1st wife "Milly" possibly died and Charles then remarried to Maggie.  Unfortunately, I cannot for the life of me locate Charles W. Scantling on the 1900 Census to see who is listed in his household, specifically Frederick William Scantling.   Frederick William Scantling died in Riverside County, California, on June 4, 1973, at the age of 86.  I have no sources for checking for an Obituary..  If someone has access to Obits, perhaps Fred's obit from 1973 can be obtained and maybe his parents are listed?   Family bible records kept by Fred's wife, Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling, do not list the names of Fred's parents.  Darn it!   Michael Sellers --- On Wed, 8/19/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 10:48 PM MICHAEL, Carol's suggestion on death certificate is probably best. AND also Carrie's death certificat is here also with no info on CA death report. WHO are her parents?? Other info I see = 1900 Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. 1910 Carrie Scantling Fred Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1882 Virginia Wife,both parents VA  Fred Scantling Carrie Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1887 Virginia Head ,both parents VA John Plaine/BLAINE 23 VA, BROTHER, BOTH PARENTS VA ca WHO IS THIS??? WW 1 Frederick Wm Scantling 20 Jan 1887 Caucasian (White) Virginia;United States of America Augusta, VA born CROZET, VA (Albemarle Co., msh) MACHINEST FOR STAUNTON MACHINE, STAUNTON, VA WIFE AND ONE CHILD, PARTIALLY BLIND MED HEIGHT, MED BUILD, BROWN EYES, BLACK HAIR, PARTIALLY BLIND === 1920 Staunton Ward 1, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia Fred E Scantling 31 Carrie Scantling 38 Fred Scantling 2 6/12 1930 Staunton, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia Fred W Scantling 44 Carrie H Scantling 49 Frederick H Scantling 13 == Security Death Index Name:    Fred Scantling    SSN:    227-34-1322     Last Residence:    92383 San Jacinto, Riverside, California, United States of America    Born:    20 Jan 1887    Died:    Jun 1973    State (Year) SSN issued:    Virginia (Before 1951)            Carrie H Scantling 2 Jun 1965 Riverside 2 Oct 1880 Virginia  DEATH -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:20 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I'm trying to identify the parents and any possible siblings of Frederick William Scantling, husband of Carrie Holland Sellers.  I'm wondering if anyone with access to Ancestry records can lend me a hand.   Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, presumably in Augusta County, Virginia, but it may have been in neighboring Albemarle County, Virginia.   Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia.  After a brief move to Dayton, Ohio, in 1910, they had returned "home" to Augusta County, Virginia, by 1917 when "Frederick Wm. Scantling" filled out his World War I Draft Registration card.   I cannot find Fred on the 1900 Census and have been totally unable to identify his parents.  Fred and Carrie had one son, Frederick Holland Scantling, who in turn had 4 children.  I have spoken with the 4 grandchildren, and they are just as stumped.  The Family Bible kept by Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling oddly did not list the name of Fred's parents either.    I would truly appreciate any assistance and/or record look-ups by those with access that can unravel this mini-mystery and identify the names of Frederick William Scantling's parents.   Thanks!   Michael Sellers           ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The California Death Certificate abstract for Frederick William Scantling is blank concerning the names of his parents.    Michael  --- On Sat, 8/22/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 9:13 PM I believe I would try the death certificate, as suggested earlier. Thanks, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:06 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed First off, thanks for the efforts and help.  It is much appreciated.   Marie & all, Carrie Holland Sellers was the 14th of 14 children born to Jerome Howard Brown Sellers (Nov. 14, 1825 - Feb. 27, 1910) and Margaret Rebecca Bell (Nov. 2, 1832 - June 17, 1907). Carrie was born in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia, on October 2, 1880, and died in Riverside County, California, on June 2, 1965.   Carrie married Frederick William Scantling on February 10, 1909, at the home of her parents in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia.  I do not know where the Marriage License was obtained.  However, given that they were married in Augusta County, it's more than likely that the License was obtained there.  Perhaps there is a Marriage Record for them in Augusta County and possibly it was name/list Fred's parents?   Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, in Albemarle County, Virginia.  His World War I Draft Registration card listed the specific town in Albemarle in which he was born as "Crozet" (pronounced Kro-zay).  There were two Scantling families in that area into the 1930s.  One family, that of Charles W. Scantling, possibly could've been Fred's father.   One of Fred's grandsons recently stated that Fred had at least 4 or 5 sisters; Mildred Minnie, Lydia, Ethel, Hattie, and Luttie.   1880 Census records for Albemarle County, Virginia, list the household of "Chs W. Scaustine" with wife "Milly" and daughter, "Minna A.".  A look at the actual census page shows the last name to have indeed been "Scantling".   A birth record via Familysearch.org show that a "Lydia Scantling" was born on May 27, 1881, in Albemarle County, Virginia, to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly".  Another records shows that an "Ethel Scantling" was born in 1889 to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly".  So, it's possible that Fred's father was Charles W. Scantling, however, I have found nothing to confirm this.   Charles W. Scantling does not appear on the 1900 Census, at least not that I can find.  Per the 1880, 1910, 1920, & 1930 censuses, Charles W. Scantling was born circa 1860 in Virginia.  On those censuses, he was always listed in Albemarle County, Virginia.  I believe he was the son of William A. Scantling and Elizabeth Clark.   C. W. Scantling appears on the 1910 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman.   Charles W. Scantling appears on the 1920 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman.   Charlie W. Scantling appears on the 1930 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, as widowed with sons Jennings and Norman living in the household.  Daughter Nora had married Daniel O'Conell Bishop.   If Charles was indeed Fred's father, then it appears that 1st wife "Milly" possibly died and Charles then remarried to Maggie.  Unfortunately, I cannot for the life of me locate Charles W. Scantling on the 1900 Census to see who is listed in his household, specifically Frederick William Scantling.   Frederick William Scantling died in Riverside County, California, on June 4, 1973, at the age of 86.  I have no sources for checking for an Obituary..  If someone has access to Obits, perhaps Fred's obit from 1973 can be obtained and maybe his parents are listed?   Family bible records kept by Fred's wife, Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling, do not list the names of Fred's parents.  Darn it!   Michael Sellers --- On Wed, 8/19/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 10:48 PM MICHAEL, Carol's suggestion on death certificate is probably best. AND also Carrie's death certificat is here also with no info on CA death report. WHO are her parents?? Other info I see = 1900 Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. 1910 Carrie Scantling Fred Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1882 Virginia Wife,both parents VA  Fred Scantling Carrie Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1887 Virginia Head ,both parents VA John Plaine/BLAINE 23 VA, BROTHER, BOTH PARENTS VA ca WHO IS THIS??? WW 1 Frederick Wm Scantling 20 Jan 1887 Caucasian (White) Virginia;United States of America Augusta, VA born CROZET, VA (Albemarle Co., msh) MACHINEST FOR STAUNTON MACHINE, STAUNTON, VA WIFE AND ONE CHILD, PARTIALLY BLIND MED HEIGHT, MED BUILD, BROWN EYES, BLACK HAIR, PARTIALLY BLIND === 1920 Staunton Ward 1, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia Fred E Scantling 31 Carrie Scantling 38 Fred Scantling 2 6/12 1930 Staunton, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia Fred W Scantling 44 Carrie H Scantling 49 Frederick H Scantling 13 == Security Death Index Name:    Fred Scantling    SSN:    227-34-1322     Last Residence:    92383 San Jacinto, Riverside, California, United States of America    Born:    20 Jan 1887    Died:    Jun 1973    State (Year) SSN issued:    Virginia (Before 1951)            Carrie H Scantling 2 Jun 1965 Riverside 2 Oct 1880 Virginia  DEATH -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:20 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I'm trying to identify the parents and any possible siblings of Frederick William Scantling, husband of Carrie Holland Sellers.  I'm wondering if anyone with access to Ancestry records can lend me a hand.   Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, presumably in Augusta County, Virginia, but it may have been in neighboring Albemarle County, Virginia.   Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia.  After a brief move to Dayton, Ohio, in 1910, they had returned "home" to Augusta County, Virginia, by 1917 when "Frederick Wm. Scantling" filled out his World War I Draft Registration card.   I cannot find Fred on the 1900 Census and have been totally unable to identify his parents.  Fred and Carrie had one son, Frederick Holland Scantling, who in turn had 4 children.  I have spoken with the 4 grandchildren, and they are just as stumped.  The Family Bible kept by Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling oddly did not list the name of Fred's parents either.    I would truly appreciate any assistance and/or record look-ups by those with access that can unravel this mini-mystery and identify the names of Frederick William Scantling's parents.   Thanks!   Michael Sellers           ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I was afraid of that. You have already done pretty complete job. Riverside, CA usgenweb, ask for help, if they lived there very long. I didn't check city directories and my old newspapers aren't working tonite, but, didn't see on a fast search and didn't see on obit indexes that I have. Kids of C.W. = followed up in census? I am sure you have. You do good work. He isn't a CW age, but Scantlings in CW? Best wishes, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:46 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed The California Death Certificate abstract for Frederick William Scantling is blank concerning the names of his parents.    Michael  --- On Sat, 8/22/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 9:13 PM I believe I would try the death certificate, as suggested earlier. Thanks, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:06 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed First off, thanks for the efforts and help.  It is much appreciated.   Marie & all, Carrie Holland Sellers was the 14th of 14 children born to Jerome Howard Brown Sellers (Nov. 14, 1825 - Feb. 27, 1910) and Margaret Rebecca Bell (Nov. 2, 1832 - June 17, 1907). Carrie was born in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia, on October 2, 1880, and died in Riverside County, California, on June 2, 1965.   Carrie married Frederick William Scantling on February 10, 1909, at the home of her parents in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia.  I do not know where the Marriage License was obtained.  However, given that they were married in Augusta County, it's more than likely that the License was obtained there.  Perhaps there is a Marriage Record for them in Augusta County and possibly it was name/list Fred's parents?   Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, in Albemarle County, Virginia.  His World War I Draft Registration card listed the specific town in Albemarle in which he was born as "Crozet" (pronounced Kro-zay).  There were two Scantling families in that area into the 1930s.  One family, that of Charles W. Scantling, possibly could've been Fred's father.   One of Fred's grandsons recently stated that Fred had at least 4 or 5 sisters; Mildred Minnie, Lydia, Ethel, Hattie, and Luttie.   1880 Census records for Albemarle County, Virginia, list the household of "Chs W. Scaustine" with wife "Milly" and daughter, "Minna A.".  A look at the actual census page shows the last name to have indeed been "Scantling".   A birth record via Familysearch.org show that a "Lydia Scantling" was born on May 27, 1881, in Albemarle County, Virginia, to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly".  Another records shows that an "Ethel Scantling" was born in 1889 to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly".  So, it's possible that Fred's father was Charles W. Scantling, however, I have found nothing to confirm this.   Charles W. Scantling does not appear on the 1900 Census, at least not that I can find.  Per the 1880, 1910, 1920, & 1930 censuses, Charles W. Scantling was born circa 1860 in Virginia.  On those censuses, he was always listed in Albemarle County, Virginia.  I believe he was the son of William A. Scantling and Elizabeth Clark.   C. W. Scantling appears on the 1910 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman.   Charles W. Scantling appears on the 1920 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman.   Charlie W. Scantling appears on the 1930 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, as widowed with sons Jennings and Norman living in the household.  Daughter Nora had married Daniel O'Conell Bishop.   If Charles was indeed Fred's father, then it appears that 1st wife "Milly" possibly died and Charles then remarried to Maggie.  Unfortunately, I cannot for the life of me locate Charles W. Scantling on the 1900 Census to see who is listed in his household, specifically Frederick William Scantling.   Frederick William Scantling died in Riverside County, California, on June 4, 1973, at the age of 86.  I have no sources for checking for an Obituary..  If someone has access to Obits, perhaps Fred's obit from 1973 can be obtained and maybe his parents are listed?   Family bible records kept by Fred's wife, Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling, do not list the names of Fred's parents.  Darn it!   Michael Sellers --- On Wed, 8/19/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 10:48 PM MICHAEL, Carol's suggestion on death certificate is probably best. AND also Carrie's death certificat is here also with no info on CA death report. WHO are her parents?? Other info I see = 1900 Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. 1910 Carrie Scantling Fred Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1882 Virginia Wife,both parents VA  Fred Scantling Carrie Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1887 Virginia Head ,both parents VA John Plaine/BLAINE 23 VA, BROTHER, BOTH PARENTS VA ca WHO IS THIS??? WW 1 Frederick Wm Scantling 20 Jan 1887 Caucasian (White) Virginia;United States of America Augusta, VA born CROZET, VA (Albemarle Co., msh) MACHINEST FOR STAUNTON MACHINE, STAUNTON, VA WIFE AND ONE CHILD, PARTIALLY BLIND MED HEIGHT, MED BUILD, BROWN EYES, BLACK HAIR, PARTIALLY BLIND === 1920 Staunton Ward 1, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia Fred E Scantling 31 Carrie Scantling 38 Fred Scantling 2 6/12 1930 Staunton, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia Fred W Scantling 44 Carrie H Scantling 49 Frederick H Scantling 13 == Security Death Index Name:    Fred Scantling    SSN:    227-34-1322     Last Residence:    92383 San Jacinto, Riverside, California, United States of America    Born:    20 Jan 1887    Died:    Jun 1973    State (Year) SSN issued:    Virginia (Before 1951)            Carrie H Scantling 2 Jun 1965 Riverside 2 Oct 1880 Virginia  DEATH -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:20 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I'm trying to identify the parents and any possible siblings of Frederick William Scantling, husband of Carrie Holland Sellers.  I'm wondering if anyone with access to Ancestry records can lend me a hand.   Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, presumably in Augusta County, Virginia, but it may have been in neighboring Albemarle County, Virginia.   Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia.  After a brief move to Dayton, Ohio, in 1910, they had returned "home" to Augusta County, Virginia, by 1917 when "Frederick Wm. Scantling" filled out his World War I Draft Registration card.   I cannot find Fred on the 1900 Census and have been totally unable to identify his parents.  Fred and Carrie had one son, Frederick Holland Scantling, who in turn had 4 children.  I have spoken with the 4 grandchildren, and they are just as stumped.  The Family Bible kept by Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling oddly did not list the name of Fred's parents either.    I would truly appreciate any assistance and/or record look-ups by those with access that can unravel this mini-mystery and identify the names of Frederick William Scantling's parents.   Thanks!   Michael Sellers           ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

MICHAEL, I am NOT talking abstract. Yes, no info on her or him. I am talking COPY of death certificate. NEED, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:46 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed The California Death Certificate abstract for Frederick William Scantling is blank concerning the names of his parents.    Michael  --- On Sat, 8/22/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 9:13 PM I believe I would try the death certificate, as suggested earlier. Thanks, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:06 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed First off, thanks for the efforts and help.  It is much appreciated.   Marie & all, Carrie Holland Sellers was the 14th of 14 children born to Jerome Howard Brown Sellers (Nov. 14, 1825 - Feb. 27, 1910) and Margaret Rebecca Bell (Nov. 2, 1832 - June 17, 1907). Carrie was born in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia, on October 2, 1880, and died in Riverside County, California, on June 2, 1965.   Carrie married Frederick William Scantling on February 10, 1909, at the home of her parents in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia.  I do not know where the Marriage License was obtained.  However, given that they were married in Augusta County, it's more than likely that the License was obtained there.  Perhaps there is a Marriage Record for them in Augusta County and possibly it was name/list Fred's parents?   Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, in Albemarle County, Virginia.  His World War I Draft Registration card listed the specific town in Albemarle in which he was born as "Crozet" (pronounced Kro-zay).  There were two Scantling families in that area into the 1930s.  One family, that of Charles W. Scantling, possibly could've been Fred's father.   One of Fred's grandsons recently stated that Fred had at least 4 or 5 sisters; Mildred Minnie, Lydia, Ethel, Hattie, and Luttie.   1880 Census records for Albemarle County, Virginia, list the household of "Chs W. Scaustine" with wife "Milly" and daughter, "Minna A.".  A look at the actual census page shows the last name to have indeed been "Scantling".   A birth record via Familysearch.org show that a "Lydia Scantling" was born on May 27, 1881, in Albemarle County, Virginia, to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly".  Another records shows that an "Ethel Scantling" was born in 1889 to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly".  So, it's possible that Fred's father was Charles W. Scantling, however, I have found nothing to confirm this.   Charles W. Scantling does not appear on the 1900 Census, at least not that I can find.  Per the 1880, 1910, 1920, & 1930 censuses, Charles W. Scantling was born circa 1860 in Virginia.  On those censuses, he was always listed in Albemarle County, Virginia.  I believe he was the son of William A. Scantling and Elizabeth Clark.   C. W. Scantling appears on the 1910 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman.   Charles W. Scantling appears on the 1920 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman.   Charlie W. Scantling appears on the 1930 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, as widowed with sons Jennings and Norman living in the household.  Daughter Nora had married Daniel O'Conell Bishop.   If Charles was indeed Fred's father, then it appears that 1st wife "Milly" possibly died and Charles then remarried to Maggie.  Unfortunately, I cannot for the life of me locate Charles W. Scantling on the 1900 Census to see who is listed in his household, specifically Frederick William Scantling.   Frederick William Scantling died in Riverside County, California, on June 4, 1973, at the age of 86.  I have no sources for checking for an Obituary..  If someone has access to Obits, perhaps Fred's obit from 1973 can be obtained and maybe his parents are listed?   Family bible records kept by Fred's wife, Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling, do not list the names of Fred's parents.  Darn it!   Michael Sellers --- On Wed, 8/19/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 10:48 PM MICHAEL, Carol's suggestion on death certificate is probably best. AND also Carrie's death certificat is here also with no info on CA death report. WHO are her parents?? Other info I see = 1900 Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. 1910 Carrie Scantling Fred Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1882 Virginia Wife,both parents VA  Fred Scantling Carrie Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1887 Virginia Head ,both parents VA John Plaine/BLAINE 23 VA, BROTHER, BOTH PARENTS VA ca WHO IS THIS??? WW 1 Frederick Wm Scantling 20 Jan 1887 Caucasian (White) Virginia;United States of America Augusta, VA born CROZET, VA (Albemarle Co., msh) MACHINEST FOR STAUNTON MACHINE, STAUNTON, VA WIFE AND ONE CHILD, PARTIALLY BLIND MED HEIGHT, MED BUILD, BROWN EYES, BLACK HAIR, PARTIALLY BLIND === 1920 Staunton Ward 1, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia Fred E Scantling 31 Carrie Scantling 38 Fred Scantling 2 6/12 1930 Staunton, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia Fred W Scantling 44 Carrie H Scantling 49 Frederick H Scantling 13 == Security Death Index Name:    Fred Scantling    SSN:    227-34-1322     Last Residence:    92383 San Jacinto, Riverside, California, United States of America    Born:    20 Jan 1887    Died:    Jun 1973    State (Year) SSN issued:    Virginia (Before 1951)            Carrie H Scantling 2 Jun 1965 Riverside 2 Oct 1880 Virginia  DEATH -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:20 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I'm trying to identify the parents and any possible siblings of Frederick William Scantling, husband of Carrie Holland Sellers.  I'm wondering if anyone with access to Ancestry records can lend me a hand.   Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, presumably in Augusta County, Virginia, but it may have been in neighboring Albemarle County, Virginia.   Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia.  After a brief move to Dayton, Ohio, in 1910, they had returned "home" to Augusta County, Virginia, by 1917 when "Frederick Wm. Scantling" filled out his World War I Draft Registration card.   I cannot find Fred on the 1900 Census and have been totally unable to identify his parents.  Fred and Carrie had one son, Frederick Holland Scantling, who in turn had 4 children.  I have spoken with the 4 grandchildren, and they are just as stumped.  The Family Bible kept by Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling oddly did not list the name of Fred's parents either.    I would truly appreciate any assistance and/or record look-ups by those with access that can unravel this mini-mystery and identify the names of Frederick William Scantling's parents.   Thanks!   Michael Sellers           ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message