I have also been so darn frustrated with this issue too and then I discovered that on the home page on the top click on search and then where you scroll down, to where you put in the name of the person you are researching, there is a box that says exact matches only and when I clicked that it sure takes care of not getting a Clark when searching a Cellers. Some times I just use a first name or just a last name. I hope this helps. Lorelee, descendant of Rev War James Sellers b.1759 -------Original Message------- From: sellers-request@rootsweb.com Date: 4/9/2009 12:19:37 AM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: SELLERS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 75 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Louisa Sellers (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) 2. Re: Louisa Sellers (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) 3. Re: Louisa Sellers (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) 4. FW: Sellers FAmily Reunion Memorial Day weekend, May 23, 24, & 25 2009, in Troy, Alabama (Marie sellers hollinger) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:28:28 -0000 From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Louisa Sellers To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1239200910.496999@rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: charernst Surnames: Sellers Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/2306.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.1.2.2.3.2.1.1 1.2.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Linda: I think you did write me a while back about the Tom Kryssbek website (anyway you posted it to the Sellers-L with me as one of the ones you were addressing the post too.) I think it was back in January. Sorry I didn't reply back at the time. I remember when I was helping you with James Sellers too. I know I think he belongs to the Robert Sellers Sr line, but once the two different Sellers groups, the German ones out of Lincoln and Rutherford Co., NC and the Sellers lines out of Burke, via Mecklenburg, via Where?, both ended up in Haywood/Macon and those other far western NC counties before taking off to new frontiers, I still have a hard time definitively identifying who's who. But I do think your James is a grandson of Robert Sellers, Sr, but still not sure of the exact connection. One day, I tell myself, if I keep working on researching... And I do agree with you on Ancestry.com's search engine capabilities. Totally frustrating. It use to be much better. Last year when I renewed I did complain to the sales rep who called. He told me that happens with all the new information they keep adding. Perhaps they need to spend a little money and upgrade the search engine so it doesn't keep giving you such a broad array of useless information. Such as do a search for Cellars and you get Clark!! Not to mention the bizarre misspelling on the indexing that when you look at the actual census couldn't possibly have been read that way. Such as, how could a bunch of men on one census with the given name Andrew have really been written as Amanadrew, etc? I went through the whole 1870 Mitchell Co NC census last night (whoa, lengthy!) and can say the Sellers group wasn't there in 1870. Maybe I'll have the energy to tackle Yancey. I know Winny is back in McDowell living with Adin, and her daughter, Elvira Sellers English, but we're looking for Joseph "Joe" and his wife M. Elvira and their family in 1870. I think the son Josiah "Joe" is in McDowell living with Eleson and Margaret Wiseman,and there is a Lucy and Mary, both age 45, but where are the rest of them? I am just hoping this search doesn't expand into those east Tennessee counties too. That might take some time...Yikes! Charmaine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:04:48 -0000 From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Louisa Sellers To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1239203089.321059@rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: charernst Surnames: Sellers Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/2306.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.1.2.2.3.2.1.1 1.2.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you look back at my first post here you'll see my hypothesis about Winifred "Winnie" Freeman Sellars/Sellers as the mother of Joseph "Joe", daughters Elizabeth, Mary and Elvira, and my speculation on the possible husband of Winnie as an Eldridge Sellers who is on the earlier Burke Co., NC censuses (which does need some work to be proved!) This group of Sellers appear to be the only one's that remained in the Burke/McDowell, etc area, which helps with sorting this all out. If I get lucky and find Joseph "Joe' and M. Elvira ? Sellers with family in 1870, then I'll try to do a post with the family in a chart. I know that both Pinckney "Pink" H.Sellers and his brother Josiah "Joe" Sellers are on the 1880 Mitchell Co., NC census. Their Mother, Elvira, is in McDowell with Louisa and her son Charles. (Joseph Sellers must have died prior to this) Daughter Sarah Ann is in McDowelll married to Joseph Tarpley McKinney. I don't know where Elizabeth, William or Mary are. And,, of course where is Judge? Winnie's daughter Elizabeth appears to be living with Abagail McGee. It's a challenge trying to sort all of this out! I know that when Avery was formed in 1911 it was created from a large portion of Mitchell (1861) and a smaller portion of Watauga (1849)So we'll have to explore that as a possibility where some of the Sellers ended up. The net widens. Charmaine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:28:35 -0000 From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Louisa Sellers To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1239204517.553407@rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lindapeacock400 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/2306.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.1.2.2.3.2.1.1 1.2.2.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Charmaine, Gee, I hope you don´t have to search through TN! I wonder if the Soundex is even turned on at Ancestry. The other day I triesd changing to an international" version, for fun and got the same results. Well, making progress at any rate, as to my Sellers line in that the Thompson bible does refer to Jane Thompson marrying James Sellers. And the family does appear to have moved to TN as stated in the list of Robert Sellers, Sr.´s descendants provided by Georgia (and origianlly listed in the mimeographed Sellers letters). Plus, there were Roberts in later generations and no Conrads. Furthermore, though the Black´s were in Lincoln County, as were my Bonhams, I haven´t found any Sellers´s from my line that were there. They all seem to have been from the Rutherford, Macon, etc. area. Jane´s mother´s father (Thomas Black) appears to have been of Scottish descent via Y-DNA tests but my mt-DNA is quite universal, European (no Cherokee Indians so far, which was a family story (and still is) from some of the branches who tried to claim Federal compensation for "lands lost , "Indian money" and claims denied, rightfully it looks like). There is the association to the Killian grou! p, but I have British Bonhams who also associated with Germans, due to their religious beliefs and Nathan Thompson is reported to have been a minister. Oh, well, another mess to sort out. Maybe if I could ever find a Sellers of James´s line to take the Y-DNA test, it would clear up the ma Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:32:44 -0500 From: "marie sellers hollinger" <mari@netins.net> Subject: [SELLERS] FW: Sellers FAmily Reunion Memorial Day weekend, May 23, 24, & 25 2009, in Troy, Alabama To: "SELLERS@rootsweb. com" <SELLERS@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <5C1450A248C74D2C9ED25ACCA29C8A9B@moms> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am writing to tell you about a Sellers Family Reunion that will take place over the Memorial Day weekend, May 23, 24,& 25 2009, in Troy, Alabama. I have been trying to reach as many Sellers as possible to let them know about the Reunion. Some of our DNA matches will be able to attend. The reunion will be held at the Holiday Inn in Troy, Pike County, Alabama. Saturday evening, May 23, there will be a dinner, and the cost of attending the dinner will be $ 16.50 per person. I need to know how many people would want to attend and their preference of chicken or beef as a meat dish. I want to invite you, and any and all other Sellers Family members who might be interested in attending. Please help me spread the word about the reunion. Thanks so much! Margie Clayton Klein _____ Save money by eating out! Find <http://www.when.com/search?st=restaurant&has_gift_cert=1&ncid=emlcntusw hen00000001> great dining coupons in your area. ------------------------------ To contact the SELLERS list administrator, send an email to SELLERS-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SELLERS mailing list, send an email to SELLERS@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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I am writing to tell you about a Sellers Family Reunion that will take place over the Memorial Day weekend, May 23, 24,& 25 2009, in Troy, Alabama. I have been trying to reach as many Sellers as possible to let them know about the Reunion. Some of our DNA matches will be able to attend. The reunion will be held at the Holiday Inn in Troy, Pike County, Alabama. Saturday evening, May 23, there will be a dinner, and the cost of attending the dinner will be $ 16.50 per person. I need to know how many people would want to attend and their preference of chicken or beef as a meat dish. I want to invite you, and any and all other Sellers Family members who might be interested in attending. Please help me spread the word about the reunion. Thanks so much! Margie Clayton Klein _____ Save money by eating out! Find <http://www.when.com/search?st=restaurant&has_gift_cert=1&ncid=emlcntusw hen00000001> great dining coupons in your area.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lindapeacock400 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/2306.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.1.2.2.3.2.1.1.1.2.2.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Charmaine, Gee, I hope you don´t have to search through TN! I wonder if the Soundex is even turned on at Ancestry. The other day I triesd changing to an "international" version, for fun and got the same results. Well, making progress at any rate, as to my Sellers line in that the Thompson bible does refer to Jane Thompson marrying James Sellers. And the family does appear to have moved to TN as stated in the list of Robert Sellers, Sr.´s descendants provided by Georgia (and origianlly listed in the mimeographed Sellers letters). Plus, there were Roberts in later generations and no Conrads. Furthermore, though the Black´s were in Lincoln County, as were my Bonhams, I haven´t found any Sellers´s from my line that were there. They all seem to have been from the Rutherford, Macon, etc. area. Jane´s mother´s father (Thomas Black) appears to have been of Scottish descent via Y-DNA tests but my mt-DNA is quite universal, European (no Cherokee Indians so far, which was a family story (and still is) from some of the branches who tried to claim Federal compensation for "lands lost", "Indian money" and claims denied, rightfully it looks like). There is the association to the Killian grou! p, but I have British Bonhams who also associated with Germans, due to their religious beliefs and Nathan Thompson is reported to have been a minister. Oh, well, another mess to sort out. Maybe if I could ever find a Sellers of James´s line to take the Y-DNA test, it would clear up the ma Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: charernst Surnames: Sellers Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/2306.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.1.2.2.3.2.1.1.1.2.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you look back at my first post here you'll see my hypothesis about Winifred "Winnie" Freeman Sellars/Sellers as the mother of Joseph "Joe", daughters Elizabeth, Mary and Elvira, and my speculation on the possible husband of Winnie as an Eldridge Sellers who is on the earlier Burke Co., NC censuses (which does need some work to be proved!) This group of Sellers appear to be the only one's that remained in the Burke/McDowell, etc area, which helps with sorting this all out. If I get lucky and find Joseph "Joe' and M. Elvira ? Sellers with family in 1870, then I'll try to do a post with the family in a chart. I know that both Pinckney "Pink" H.Sellers and his brother Josiah "Joe" Sellers are on the 1880 Mitchell Co., NC census. Their Mother, Elvira, is in McDowell with Louisa and her son Charles. (Joseph Sellers must have died prior to this) Daughter Sarah Ann is in McDowelll married to Joseph Tarpley McKinney. I don't know where Elizabeth, William or Mary are. And,, of course, where is Judge? Winnie's daughter Elizabeth appears to be living with Abagail McGee. It's a challenge trying to sort all of this out! I know that when Avery was formed in 1911 it was created from a large portion of Mitchell (1861) and a smaller portion of Watauga (1849)So we'll have to explore that as a possibility where some of the Sellers ended up. The net widens. Charmaine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: charernst Surnames: Sellers Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/2306.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.1.2.2.3.2.1.1.1.2.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Linda: I think you did write me a while back about the Tom Kryssbek website (anyway you posted it to the Sellers-L with me as one of the ones you were addressing the post too.) I think it was back in January. Sorry I didn't reply back at the time. I remember when I was helping you with James Sellers too. I know I think he belongs to the Robert Sellers Sr line, but once the two different Sellers groups, the German ones out of Lincoln and Rutherford Co., NC and the Sellers lines out of Burke, via Mecklenburg, via Where?, both ended up in Haywood/Macon and those other far western NC counties before taking off to new frontiers, I still have a hard time definitively identifying who's who. But I do think your James is a grandson of Robert Sellers, Sr, but still not sure of the exact connection. One day, I tell myself, if I keep working on researching... And I do agree with you on Ancestry.com's search engine capabilities. Totally frustrating. It use to be much better. Last year when I renewed I did complain to the sales rep who called. He told me that happens with all the new information they keep adding. Perhaps they need to spend a little money and upgrade the search engine so it doesn't keep giving you such a broad array of useless information. Such as do a search for Cellars and you get Clark!! Not to mention the bizarre mispelling on the indexing that when you look at the actual census couldn't possibly have been read that way. Such as, how could a bunch of men on one census with the given name Andrew have really been written as Amanadrew, etc? I went through the whole 1870 Mitchell Co NC census last night (whoa, lengthy!) and can say the Sellers group wasn't there in 1870. Maybe I'll have the energy to tackle Yancey. I know Winny is back in McDowell living with Adin, and her daughter, Elvira Sellers English, but we're looking for Joseph "Joe" and his wife M. Elvira and their family in 1870. I think the son Josiah "Joe" is in McDowell living with Eleson and Margaret Wiseman,and there is a Lucy and Mary, both age 45, but where are the rest of them? I am just hoping this search doesn't expand into those east Tennessee counties too. That might take some time...Yikes! Charmaine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lindapeacock400 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/2306.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.1.2.2.3.2.1.1.1.2.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Beautiful work, Charmaine! People "disappearing" in censuses bother me too. I don´t find the Soundex options at Ancestry very helpful and I hate, that when I have said that such and such a person was b. in a certain time period and, or place that Ancestry gives all kinds of unrelated data anyway. Yikes! So one has to cull through the pages of the various censuses as you have been doing. Well, at least it´s there to cull through and I do, do the corrections, when I am certain, to help the next person out. Sent you another message via the Sellers e-mail list, as my first reply didn´t work. To Brandy and Travis: we may all be cousins. Just have to keep working the data we can find to prove or disprove that, but it certainly seems possible. Linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Good work, Charmaine! My post to the board didn´t work. Just wanted to ask if you ever saw the pages that Ton Kryssbek compiled for my Sellers line - Marie posted them on my page. Looks like we may be cousins via Robert, Sr. to John + Margaret to James. -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sendt: 7. april 2009 06:12 Til: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Emne: Re: [SELLERS] Louisa Sellers This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: charernst Surnames: Sellers Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/2306.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.1.2.2.3.2.1.1 .1.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Travis, Brandy, Linda, Marie: I've just spent several hours going through the 1860 McDowell and then Yancey Co., NC censuses, page by page. I mentioned it drives me nuts when I can't find people that should be in an area and I can't find them on the census...well success! And I think I may have found our girl (if we can discover where Judge was hiding in 1880)! 1860 Yancey Co., NC census Childesville P. O. 20 Aug p. 460A 1209 1209 Elizabeth Cellars 49 F W ---- ----- $75 NC can't read/write Winny Cellers 70 F W NC can't read/write Martah C. 13 F W NC Childesville P. O. 21 Aug p.461B/462A 1234 1234 Joseph Celler 44 M W Farmer --- $50 NC can't read/write Elvira 44 F W NC " " Elizabeth 19 FW NC " " Sarah A. 16 F W NC William 14 M W NC Mary 13 F W NC Pinckney 11 M W NC Josiah 8 M W NC Louiza 4 F W NC This matches the family of Elvira, with daughter Louisy and son Charles in 1880 McDowell Co., NC I also noticed on the 1860 census that a number of the neighbors were Mulatto. The next door neighbor the husband was Mulatto and the wife White. If this proves to be the right Louisa then perhaps the father of Judge was Mulatto also. (Remember this was prior to the Civil War)There were also some all black households as neighbors. I have to do work on the 1870/1880 censuses next to see if I can find the whole family group. We aren't completely there yet, but the pieces are starting to fall into place. And Brandy, in answer to your question. I grew up in North Carolina, where most of my family and husband's family still live. Both my parents descend from WNC families which were there prior to the Revolutionary War and never left. My Dad's family was from McDowell Co., NC, and my Mother from Yancey Co (although her maternal Grandmother was born and raised in the North Cove of McDowell Co., NC.) So my roots are long and deep to the area. I live in Florida. I've been here for 28 years. I was just in Asheville for over three weeks. Of course I had the "pleasure " of that nasty snowstorm that hit on March 1st. I hate snow, that's why I live in Florida! My Sellers family line is from Robert Sellers, Sr, through his daughter Rebeckah Sellers who married Moses Wilkerson in old Burke Co., NC. This is one of my paternal lines. (If you want my line run down, do a search for Sellers on Google and find Marie's Sellers website. If you look under Burke Co. you'll see Charmaine's Page, click on that) Now if we can hook all these Sellers lines together we can start calling ourselves cousins. Charmaine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: travissellers333 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/2306.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.1.2.2.3.2.1.1.1.2.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Great day!!!! Charmaine, you never cease to amaze me! This is absolutely outstanding.! You know what's weird is a few years ago Travis and I began a search(nothing compared to what we're doing now)and I could swear that I came across some kind of record that stated that Judge was born to Louiza, Louise or whatever in Yancey or Watauga Co.Unfortunately, I didn't save the record, nor do I remember where I saw it. Looking at the new information, do you think that it maybe a safe assumption that Winny or Winifred is probably Joseph's mother? Sounds like our family lived in or around the same areas, maybe there is a chance we could be cousins..lol Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: charernst Surnames: Sellers Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/2306.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.1.2.2.3.2.1.1.1.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Travis, Brandy, Linda, Marie: I've just spent several hours going through the 1860 McDowell and then Yancey Co., NC censuses, page by page. I mentioned it drives me nuts when I can't find people that should be in an area and I can't find them on the census...well success! And I think I may have found our girl (if we can discover where Judge was hiding in 1880)! 1860 Yancey Co., NC census Childesville P. O. 20 Aug p. 460A 1209 1209 Elizabeth Cellars 49 F W ---- ----- $75 NC can't read/write Winny Cellers 70 F W NC can't read/write Martah C. 13 F W NC Childesville P. O. 21 Aug p.461B/462A 1234 1234 Joseph Celler 44 M W Farmer --- $50 NC can't read/write Elvira 44 F W NC " " Elizabeth 19 FW NC " " Sarah A. 16 F W NC William 14 M W NC Mary 13 F W NC Pinckney 11 M W NC Josiah 8 M W NC Louiza 4 F W NC This matches the family of Elvira, with daughter Louisy and son Charles in 1880 McDowell Co., NC I also noticed on the 1860 census that a number of the neighbors were Mulatto. The next door neighbor the husband was Mulatto and the wife White. If this proves to be the right Louisa then perhaps the father of Judge was Mulatto also. (Remember this was prior to the Civil War)There were also some all black households as neighbors. I have to do work on the 1870/1880 censuses next to see if I can find the whole family group. We aren't completely there yet, but the pieces are starting to fall into place. And Brandy, in answer to your question. I grew up in North Carolina, where most of my family and husband's family still live. Both my parents descend from WNC families which were there prior to the Revolutionary War and never left. My Dad's family was from McDowell Co., NC, and my Mother from Yancey Co (although her maternal Grandmother was born and raised in the North Cove of McDowell Co., NC.) So my roots are long and deep to the area. I live in Florida. I've been here for 28 years. I was just in Asheville for over three weeks. Of course I had the "pleasure " of that nasty snowstorm that hit on March 1st. I hate snow, that's why I live in Florida! My Sellers family line is from Robert Sellers, Sr, through his daughter Rebeckah Sellers who married Moses Wilkerson in old Burke Co., NC. This is one of my paternal lines. (If you want my line run down, do a search for Sellers on Google and find Marie's Sellers website. If you look under Burke Co. you'll see Charmaine's Page, click on that) Now if we can hook all these Sellers lines together we can start calling ourselves cousins. Charmaine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

PAT, thanks, I am forwarding this thro our Sellers discussion group. We have had members working on the ROBBINS/SELLERS. BUT, you must show a NAME/ AGE/PLACE and where their kids went, so we can SEE you and try and help. Please send. Thanks, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: Pat Robbins [mailto:robbinsp@airmail.net] Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 2:29 PM To: mari@netins.net Subject: Robbins Hi, I was wondering if you have any information on a John S Robbins born in NC I think around 1797. I don't know his parents names but think John moved to TN in later years and died there near Haywood Co TN. Any info appreciated. Pat Robbins

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: travissellers333 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/2306.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.1.2.2.3.2.1.1.1.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I've been meaning to ask, where are you from Charmaine and which Sellers are you related to. Brandy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: travissellers333 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/2306.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.1.2.2.3.2.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jim Douglas' first wife Ivory had died, I think they were neighbors of the Sellers. She is also buried at what is now the Sellers/Scott cemetery. So I guess he then married the young pretty neighbor...lol. I think you are right about the dates being wrong (57/51) it just didn't add up for me either. The charles and children that you have listed below is the son of Judge and Destie. I think I he also had a daughter named Paulette, but not sure if that was a first or middle name. She was murdered by a boyfriend or something in Forest City, NC. This same Charles has atleast one more daughter and maybe more. He moved to Newark, NJ and married Rose. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: litstomper Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/760.797.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The one I'm in touch which knows Donald they were going to try and get me in touch with him. I only have the names of Johns children and mary elizabeths children. Tom Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: charernst Surnames: Sellers Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/2306.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.1.2.2.3.2.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Interesting, Marie. Now I think the death date written on his death certificate..year 1957 must be 1951. Sometimes people write their ones with a florish at the top and it looks like a 7, instead of a one. It must have been 7 April 1951 that he died. Would mathmatically make sense considering his birth date was 20 Aug 1886, and he was listed as 70, (70 1/2) at the time of his death. Since the death certificate states he died at his Residence, perhaps he was out on bond waiting for his trail date at the time he died. Also might explain why the cause of death is just listed as Natural Causes. Since he had murdered his brother in law it saved the county money not to look into his death by wasting money on an autopsy...not to mention no longer having to pay for keeping him incarcerated if he had lived longer. Just in case you don't have this info: Douglas, Jim, Ashford, NC age 50 C married Sellers, Myrtle, Ashford, NC age 20 C on 20 September 1936 in Ashford, NC. Married by W. M. Adams, MG. Witnesses: Odie Panell, Davis King. Indexed Register of Marriages - McDowell Co., NC p. 44 It appears that Myrtle was lying about her age. Her Death Certificate gave her birth date as 10 June 1921, although she is listed as 1 year old on the 1920 Mitchell Co., NC census, so maybe born 1919 instead of 1921, but either way she was underage when she married her 50 year old husband. If she was actually born in 1919, she was 17. One has to wonder about a 50 year old man who courts and marries a teenage girl. Also. p. 148 Scott, Sewell, Ashford, NC, age 30 C, married Sellers, Maude, Ashford, NC, age 18 C; 13 July 1929. Married in Marion, NC by Dallas W. Rutherford, MG. Witnesses J. F. Lentz, T. W. Gowan. I also found a Charles Clifton Sellers and wife Nell Howell registration of the birth of three children in Rutherford Co., NC: Linda Kaye 1954 Vanessa 1959 Franchot 1963 Is this the same Charles Clifton Seller you mention as the son of Judge and Destie Cutler Sellers? Charmaine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mhollinger0729 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/760.797.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: TOM, thanks. Don, above would love to discuss this family with you, but, we haven't heard from him for years? I would suggest sending the child of John and Sarah you connect and their kids. When and where born, etc. Someone may know your family. If I remember correctly, we did NOT prove John 1850, mother Nancy to a Sellers. Glad to help. Send what you can. Names, dates, places. marie, iowa marie sellers hollinger mari@netins.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: travissellers333 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/2306.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.1.2.2.3.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I just spoke to my cousin, daughter of Maude Sellers Scott about this murder and she seems to think that Jim Douglas did go to jail and may have died there. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mhollinger0729 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/2306.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.1.2.2.3.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: TRAVIS and CHARMAINE jan 1, 1951 Monday, January 01, 1951 Statesville, North Carolina (I believe this was THE LANDMARK newspaper, msh) Edgar Sellers, 23-year-old Mc- Dowell county Negro, was shot to death and police charged his 69 year old brother in-law. James Douglas, with murder. (but, I found no trial, etc, later, msh) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: litstomper Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/760.797/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, My cousin married John and Sarah's grandson. I was wondering if you could help? Tom toms_family_search@yahoo.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: travissellers333 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/2306.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.1.2.2.3.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I just spoke to my grandmother and she said that she thinks that because the murder took place at the Jim Douglas' home they ruled it as self defense. Also, Edith S. Douglas was found dead near her residence or at a friends home/driveway. I don't think that anyone ever knew the exact cause of death. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: charernst Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/2306.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.1.2.2.3.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Here is the Death Certificate info for James H. Douglas "Jim", the husband of Edith Myrtle Sellers: Certificate # 9980 James H. Douglas death date: April 7, 1957 Place of Death: Residence Marion Rt. # 4 Marion, McDowell, NC Male Black Married Date of Birth: 8 - 20 - 1886 Age: 70 7 mos. 17 days Occupation: Com. Laborer(retired) Place of birth: Chester Co., SC Father: James Douglas Mother: Nannie Archer Wife: Edith Myrtle Sellers Informant: Edith S. Douglas Marion NC Rt. # 4 Cause of death: Natural Causes Burial: 4-10-1957 Roses Cemetery Marion N. C. Rt. 2 McCall's Funeral Service This is Edith Myrtle Sellers (Douglas, McDowell) Certificate # 34946 Mrs. Edith Myrtle Douglas McDowell Died: July 8, 1973 Died at Residence Hudgin's St Female Black Age: 52 Unemployed Widowed Date of Birth: June 10, 1921 North Carolina Father: Judge Sellers Mother: Destie Culler Informant: Mrs. Maude Scott Marion, NC Sister Cause of death: Pending autopsy; casue of death undetermined. casue ammended Aug 30 1973 I didn't find the ammended death certificate listed. How did Jim Douglas get away with shooting his brother in law with out beign arrested for murder? Charmaine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.