http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/corbett/results You might want to take a look at this. It is much easier to understand and close matches are grouped together. You can see relationships a lot clearer. Just a thought. - --- marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: > LINDA, thanks for any suggestions. > > FT sends our chart results by proven haplo's. We have diff haplo's #'s > that match these proven matches, so grouped together as proven, not just > by haplo #'s. > They are coming out with a new chart foremat, don't know how good/diff > it will be. > > I would like to have a #/link to family groups. > Each person needs to send their chart, so we can follow it and > several/most have done this. > > We canNot link anyone till Proven. > Just the proven test matches to those families. > Kinda like now, but a Link to that group family. > > Then I need to manually post these names and charts to that link. > I have been thinking of this, just need time to experiment. > > AND each time we have new results, they send me a new chart, which would > NOT have our old links in it. SO, redo each, everytime?? > I may be able to work around this, by just extracting the one or two new > results and try pasting them into the old excel sheet, which has our > links to group pages. > But, sometimes, they upgrade haplo's and I may not catch if I didn't > repost complete chart. > Must study more, but, I would like a link to family groups that match. > Been thinking, but, not doing on it. > > Thanks for suggestions. Welcomed. marie, iowa > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Peacock [mailto:lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk] > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:48 AM > To: mari@netins.net > Subject: Sellers Y-DNA site > > > > Marie, > > > > I´ve just been looking at the site to see which families are represented > and have a suggestion. I think it would be good to group the members by > haplogroups and if possible, within the haplogroups by family groups, > from most distant common ancestor. The Ross site is an example of what > I´m thinking of, though not sure how the administrator did that. I´ve > tried grouping our Bonham site and it´s not easy. > > > > Just a suggestion. > > > > Yours, > > Linda > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/corbett/results You might want to take a look at this. It is much easier to understand and close matches are grouped together. You can see relationships a lot clearer. Just a thought. - --- marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: > LINDA, thanks for any suggestions. > > FT sends our chart results by proven haplo's. We have diff haplo's #'s > that match these proven matches, so grouped together as proven, not just > by haplo #'s. > They are coming out with a new chart foremat, don't know how good/diff > it will be. > > I would like to have a #/link to family groups. > Each person needs to send their chart, so we can follow it and > several/most have done this. > > We canNot link anyone till Proven. > Just the proven test matches to those families. > Kinda like now, but a Link to that group family. > > Then I need to manually post these names and charts to that link. > I have been thinking of this, just need time to experiment. > > AND each time we have new results, they send me a new chart, which would > NOT have our old links in it. SO, redo each, everytime?? > I may be able to work around this, by just extracting the one or two new > results and try pasting them into the old excel sheet, which has our > links to group pages. > But, sometimes, they upgrade haplo's and I may not catch if I didn't > repost complete chart. > Must study more, but, I would like a link to family groups that match. > Been thinking, but, not doing on it. > > Thanks for suggestions. Welcomed. marie, iowa > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Peacock [mailto:lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk] > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:48 AM > To: mari@netins.net > Subject: Sellers Y-DNA site > > > > Marie, > > > > I´ve just been looking at the site to see which families are represented > and have a suggestion. I think it would be good to group the members by > haplogroups and if possible, within the haplogroups by family groups, > from most distant common ancestor. The Ross site is an example of what > I´m thinking of, though not sure how the administrator did that. I´ve > tried grouping our Bonham site and it´s not easy. > > > > Just a suggestion. > > > > Yours, > > Linda > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Georgia. I see now. I see a number of Young and James Sellers that match but the one identified Robert, Sr. doesn´t. Just a suggestion to the administrator(s) of the Y-DNA site - I think it would be helpful to group the members by haplogroup and within haplogroups, by family groups. I´ll be on the look out for members of my family group but so far, none have turned up. -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af Georgia L. Fletcher Sendt: 3. juni 2009 01:26 Til: sellers@rootsweb.com Emne: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtweenJamesT/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers Most of James T/Y Sellers sons moved to Maury County, TN. James and Young Sellers stayed in Chatham County, NC. This James is possibly the son of Young. The last time I found Young he was living 1850 Chatham County, NC in the household of his daughter and son-in-law. I descend from James T/Y Seller's son Isaac Sellers who went to Maury County, TN. We've have several male Sellers DNA test that go back to Robert Sellers Sr. of Burke County,. NC and James T/Y Sellers of Chatham County, NC. Georgia #1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Herbert" <carolherbert@sbcglobal.net> To: <sellers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween JamesT/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers Do we have anyone in the DNA group that tests back to this James T. or James Sr. who married Patience in Chatham County? I see Laird and Young, whom I assume are James. Sr. sons...according to Chatham County Deeds. Is this right...or these simply Sellers from another part of the state with the same given names? ________________________________ From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> To: sellers@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:50:49 AM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James T/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers It´s an mtDNA test. It´s hard with an mtDNA test to chose a particular surmname group. My test has been uploaded to the Cumberland gap group. I haven´t heard from him in awhile. I might ask him to join the Cumberland Gap group too. My known line would be Black > Thompson > Sellers. His would be Parker > Sellers to Hammond, if I recall. No, I don´t think the connection is documented, but Y-DNA testing of the 2 Sellers lines would do that, if we could find male descendants to take the test. -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af Carol Herbert Sendt: 1. juni 2009 21:39 Til: sellers@rootsweb.com Emne: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James T/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers What is the name/kit number of the match on the Sellers DNA results? I very interested in the James Sr. who married Patience, whom I believe to be the brother of Robert. Is this conection documented? ________________________________ From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> To: sellers@rootsweb.com; SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 4:36:51 AM Subject: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James T/Y Sellers and brother, Robert Sellers I thought this might interest those connected with these families. Looks like I do have a possible mtDNA match. If I understand the Sellers info correctly, Patience Parker md. James T/Y Sellers (my matche´s line) and James T/Y Sellers was brother of Robert Sellers > John Sellers > James Sellers + Jane Thompson (my line). Richard Parker, father of Patience left a will mentioning Patience and her sisters but not the mother. None of the sisters match Elizabeth, so any link would have to be back to mother of UNK who md. Richard Parker and Elizabeth who md. Thomas Black. Something to work on at any rate. Linda -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Linda Peacock [mailto:lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk] Sendt: 1. juni 2009 13:25 Til: 'DNA-ANTHROGENEALOGY@yahoogroups.com' Emne: TMRCA Calculation and Use of Full mtDNA + paper trails http://dna-project.clan-donald-usa.org/tmrca.htm To all, am sending link to calculation I just did based on a comparison of my full mtDNA test with that of a person I sought out. He matched me as to HVR1 and HVR2 found him at Kerschner´s log) + his known paper trail matched mine as to a common female surname and place, where my female ancestors were. We upgraded his test to a full test and at first, I was disappointed because I was thinking that we had to have a complete match for there to be any chance of us sharing a common female ancestor within the time frame of surnames. We are 3 markers "off" in the CR (I have 2 mutations he doesn´t have and he has 1 that I don´t have). But I just stumbled on Charles´ page as to calcualtion of a TMRCA based on mtDNA. His example was using only the HVR1 and HVR2. My calculation is based on utilizing the fact that we are 3 markers off as to 16569 base pairs (full MtDNA test). If I understand the calculation correctly, the result is that we have a 98.2% chance of our common ancestress being 9 generations back, which is just how far back we are in time and place in the paper trails. That being said, we have still not identified just who the common ancestress was. Mine (8 generations back) is an Elizabeth UNK b. before 1749 who md. Thomas Black. His is an UNK who md. Richard Parker and who had Patience Parker b. 1742. From paper trails, we know that Elizabeth was not Patience´s sister, so we have to go at least one more generation back (so 9 generations back, which also fits as to the test results) and thus, still have to figure out who this UNK was who md. Richard Parker or who Elizabeth was who md. Thomas Black (they were perhaps sisters). Fortunately, we have some good genealogists in the family and I think there is a good chance of finding out who Elizabeth was. On a further note as to the usefulness of mtDNA, HVR1 + HVR2 tests have been performed in descendants of female siblings of Esther Black of Thomas Black + Elizabeth UNK, and confirm siblingship. Linda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you want to know if your post went through, go back to Rootsweb and check the archives. Gracie ________________________________ From: Jack Sellers <Jack-Sellers@comcast.net> To: sellers@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 3:35:50 PM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween JamesT/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers FYI, I received this email through the Sellers List. Jack Sellers At 11:40 AM 6/2/2009, you wrote: >Carol, > >I ahve not been following the Sellers Y-DNA tests but think from what I have >heard, that we lack testing of these lines. Would also like to point out, >that for some reason, these messages are not going through the list. I >thought I sent my message via the Sellers list, so all could see it, but >perhaps not. If we want to reach potential Sellers Y-DNA testers we need to >post to the list. And otherwise, I find it confounding that NONE of ny >Sellers male lines have been on the boards anywhere as to pursuing their >ancestry, though I know there must be some out there. So that makes it hard >to track them down and ask them to take a test. > >Linda > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] På >vegne af Carol Herbert >Sendt: 2. juni 2009 18:03 >Til: sellers@rootsweb.com >Emne: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween JamesT/YSellers >and brother, Robert Sellers > >Do we have anyone in the DNA group that tests back to this James T. or James >Sr. who married Patience in Chatham County? I see Laird and Young, whom I >assume are James. Sr. sons...according to Chatham County Deeds. Is this >right...or these simply Sellers from another part of the state with the same >given names? > > > > >________________________________ >From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> >To: sellers@rootsweb.com >Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:50:49 AM >Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James >T/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers > >It´s an mtDNA test. It´s hard with an mtDNA test to chose a particular >surmname group. My test has been uploaded to the Cumberland gap group. I >haven´t heard from him in awhile. I might ask him to join the Cumberland Gap >group too. My known line would be Black > Thompson > Sellers. His would be >Parker > Sellers to Hammond, if I recall. No, I don´t think the connection >is documented, but Y-DNA testing of the 2 Sellers lines would do that, if we >could find male descendants to take the test. > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] På >vegne af Carol Herbert >Sendt: 1. juni 2009 21:39 >Til: sellers@rootsweb.com >Emne: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James >T/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers > >What is the name/kit number of the match on the Sellers DNA results? I very >interested in the James Sr. who married Patience, whom I believe to be the >brother of Robert. Is this conection documented? > > > > >________________________________ >From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> >To: sellers@rootsweb.com; SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com >Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 4:36:51 AM >Subject: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James T/Y >Sellers and brother, Robert Sellers > > > > >I thought this might interest those connected with these families. Looks >like I do have a possible mtDNA match. If I understand the Sellers info >correctly, Patience Parker md. James T/Y Sellers (my matche´s line) and >James T/Y Sellers was brother of Robert Sellers > John Sellers > James >Sellers + Jane Thompson (my line). Richard Parker, father of Patience left a >will mentioning Patience and her sisters but not the mother. None of the >sisters match Elizabeth, so any link would have to be back to mother of UNK >who md. Richard Parker and Elizabeth who md. Thomas Black. Something to work >on at any rate. > >Linda > > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: Linda Peacock [mailto:lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk] >Sendt: 1. juni 2009 13:25 >Til: 'DNA-ANTHROGENEALOGY@yahoogroups.com' >Emne: TMRCA Calculation and Use of Full mtDNA + paper trails > >http://dna-project.clan-donald-usa.org/tmrca.htm > >To all, am sending link to calculation I just did based on a comparison of >my full mtDNA test with that of a person I sought out. He matched me as to >HVR1 and HVR2 found him at Kerschner´s log) + his known paper trail matched >mine as to a common female surname and place, where my female ancestors >were. We upgraded his test to a full test and at first, I was disappointed >because I was thinking that we had to have a complete match for there to be >any chance of us sharing a common female ancestor within the time frame of >surnames. We are 3 markers "off" in the CR (I have 2 mutations he doesn´t >have and he has 1 that I don´t have). But I just stumbled on Charles´ page >as to calcualtion of a TMRCA based on mtDNA. His example was using only the >HVR1 and HVR2. My calculation is based on utilizing the fact that we are 3 >markers off as to 16569 base pairs (full MtDNA test). If I understand the >calculation correctly, the result is that we have a 98.2% chance of our >common ancestress being 9 generations back, which is just how far back we >are in time and place in the paper trails. That being said, we have still >not identified just who the common ancestress was. Mine (8 generations back) >is an Elizabeth UNK b. before 1749 who md. Thomas Black. His is an UNK who >md. Richard Parker and who had Patience Parker b. 1742. From paper trails, >we know that Elizabeth was not Patience´s sister, so we have to go at least >one more generation back (so 9 generations back, which also fits as to the >test results) and thus, still have to figure out who this UNK was who md. >Richard Parker or who Elizabeth was who md. Thomas Black (they were perhaps >sisters). Fortunately, we have some good genealogists in the family and I >think there is a good chance of finding out who Elizabeth was. On a further >note as to the usefulness of mtDNA, HVR1 + HVR2 tests have been performed in >descendants of female siblings of Esther Black of Thomas Black + Elizabeth >UNK, and confirm siblingship. > >Linda > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the >word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carol, I ahve not been following the Sellers Y-DNA tests but think from what I have heard, that we lack testing of these lines. Would also like to point out, that for some reason, these messages are not going through the list. I thought I sent my message via the Sellers list, so all could see it, but perhaps not. If we want to reach potential Sellers Y-DNA testers we need to post to the list. And otherwise, I find it confounding that NONE of ny Sellers male lines have been on the boards anywhere as to pursuing their ancestry, though I know there must be some out there. So that makes it hard to track them down and ask them to take a test. Linda -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af Carol Herbert Sendt: 2. juni 2009 18:03 Til: sellers@rootsweb.com Emne: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween JamesT/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers Do we have anyone in the DNA group that tests back to this James T. or James Sr. who married Patience in Chatham County?  I see Laird and Young, whom I assume are James. Sr. sons...according to Chatham County Deeds.  Is this right...or these simply Sellers from another part of the state with the same given names? ________________________________ From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> To: sellers@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:50:49 AM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James T/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers It´s an mtDNA test. It´s hard with an mtDNA test to chose a particular surmname group. My test has been uploaded to the Cumberland gap group. I haven´t heard from him in awhile. I might ask him to join the Cumberland Gap group too. My known line would be Black > Thompson > Sellers. His would be Parker > Sellers to Hammond, if I recall. No, I don´t think the connection is documented, but Y-DNA testing of the 2 Sellers lines would do that, if we could find male descendants to take the test. -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af Carol Herbert Sendt: 1. juni 2009 21:39 Til: sellers@rootsweb.com Emne: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James T/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers What is the name/kit number of the match on the Sellers DNA results?  I very interested in the James Sr. who married Patience, whom I believe to be the brother of Robert.  Is this conection documented? ________________________________ From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> To: sellers@rootsweb.com; SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 4:36:51 AM Subject: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James T/Y Sellers and brother, Robert Sellers I thought this might interest those connected with these families. Looks like I do have a possible mtDNA match. If I understand the Sellers info correctly, Patience Parker md. James T/Y Sellers (my matche´s line) and James T/Y Sellers was brother of Robert Sellers > John Sellers > James Sellers + Jane Thompson (my line). Richard Parker, father of Patience left a will mentioning Patience and her sisters but not the mother. None of the sisters match Elizabeth, so any link would have to be back to mother of UNK who md. Richard Parker and Elizabeth who md. Thomas Black. Something to work on at any rate. Linda -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Linda Peacock [mailto:lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk] Sendt: 1. juni 2009 13:25 Til: 'DNA-ANTHROGENEALOGY@yahoogroups.com' Emne: TMRCA Calculation and Use of Full mtDNA + paper trails http://dna-project.clan-donald-usa.org/tmrca.htm To all, am sending link to calculation I just did based on a comparison of my full mtDNA test with that of a person I sought out. He matched me as to HVR1 and HVR2 found him at Kerschner´s log) + his known paper trail matched mine as to a common female surname and place, where my female ancestors were. We upgraded his test to a full test and at first, I was disappointed because I was thinking that we had to have a complete match for there to be any chance of us sharing a common female ancestor within the time frame of surnames. We are 3 markers "off" in the CR (I have 2 mutations he doesn´t have and he has 1 that I don´t have). But I just stumbled on Charles´ page as to calcualtion of a TMRCA based on mtDNA. His example was using only the HVR1 and HVR2. My calculation is based on utilizing the fact that we are 3 markers off as to 16569 base pairs (full MtDNA test). If I understand the calculation correctly, the result is that we have a 98.2% chance of our common ancestress being 9 generations back, which is just how far back we are in time and place in the paper trails. That being said, we have still not identified just who the common ancestress was. Mine (8 generations back) is an Elizabeth UNK b. before 1749 who md. Thomas Black. His is an UNK who md. Richard Parker and who had Patience Parker b. 1742. From paper trails, we know that Elizabeth was not Patience´s sister, so we have to go at least one more generation back (so 9 generations back, which also fits as to the test results) and thus, still have to figure out who this UNK was who md. Richard Parker or who Elizabeth was who md. Thomas Black (they were perhaps sisters). Fortunately, we have some good genealogists in the family and I think there is a good chance of finding out who Elizabeth was. On a further note as to the usefulness of mtDNA, HVR1 + HVR2 tests have been performed in descendants of female siblings of Esther Black of Thomas Black + Elizabeth UNK, and confirm siblingship. Linda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Most of James T/Y Sellers sons moved to Maury County, TN. James and Young Sellers stayed in Chatham County, NC. This James is possibly the son of Young. The last time I found Young he was living 1850 Chatham County, NC in the household of his daughter and son-in-law. I descend from James T/Y Seller's son Isaac Sellers who went to Maury County, TN. We've have several male Sellers DNA test that go back to Robert Sellers Sr. of Burke County,. NC and James T/Y Sellers of Chatham County, NC. Georgia #1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Herbert" <carolherbert@sbcglobal.net> To: <sellers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween JamesT/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers Do we have anyone in the DNA group that tests back to this James T. or James Sr. who married Patience in Chatham County? I see Laird and Young, whom I assume are James. Sr. sons...according to Chatham County Deeds. Is this right...or these simply Sellers from another part of the state with the same given names? ________________________________ From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> To: sellers@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:50:49 AM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James T/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers It´s an mtDNA test. It´s hard with an mtDNA test to chose a particular surmname group. My test has been uploaded to the Cumberland gap group. I haven´t heard from him in awhile. I might ask him to join the Cumberland Gap group too. My known line would be Black > Thompson > Sellers. His would be Parker > Sellers to Hammond, if I recall. No, I don´t think the connection is documented, but Y-DNA testing of the 2 Sellers lines would do that, if we could find male descendants to take the test. -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af Carol Herbert Sendt: 1. juni 2009 21:39 Til: sellers@rootsweb.com Emne: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James T/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers What is the name/kit number of the match on the Sellers DNA results? I very interested in the James Sr. who married Patience, whom I believe to be the brother of Robert. Is this conection documented? ________________________________ From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> To: sellers@rootsweb.com; SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 4:36:51 AM Subject: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James T/Y Sellers and brother, Robert Sellers I thought this might interest those connected with these families. Looks like I do have a possible mtDNA match. If I understand the Sellers info correctly, Patience Parker md. James T/Y Sellers (my matche´s line) and James T/Y Sellers was brother of Robert Sellers > John Sellers > James Sellers + Jane Thompson (my line). Richard Parker, father of Patience left a will mentioning Patience and her sisters but not the mother. None of the sisters match Elizabeth, so any link would have to be back to mother of UNK who md. Richard Parker and Elizabeth who md. Thomas Black. Something to work on at any rate. Linda -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Linda Peacock [mailto:lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk] Sendt: 1. juni 2009 13:25 Til: 'DNA-ANTHROGENEALOGY@yahoogroups.com' Emne: TMRCA Calculation and Use of Full mtDNA + paper trails http://dna-project.clan-donald-usa.org/tmrca.htm To all, am sending link to calculation I just did based on a comparison of my full mtDNA test with that of a person I sought out. He matched me as to HVR1 and HVR2 found him at Kerschner´s log) + his known paper trail matched mine as to a common female surname and place, where my female ancestors were. We upgraded his test to a full test and at first, I was disappointed because I was thinking that we had to have a complete match for there to be any chance of us sharing a common female ancestor within the time frame of surnames. We are 3 markers "off" in the CR (I have 2 mutations he doesn´t have and he has 1 that I don´t have). But I just stumbled on Charles´ page as to calcualtion of a TMRCA based on mtDNA. His example was using only the HVR1 and HVR2. My calculation is based on utilizing the fact that we are 3 markers off as to 16569 base pairs (full MtDNA test). If I understand the calculation correctly, the result is that we have a 98.2% chance of our common ancestress being 9 generations back, which is just how far back we are in time and place in the paper trails. That being said, we have still not identified just who the common ancestress was. Mine (8 generations back) is an Elizabeth UNK b. before 1749 who md. Thomas Black. His is an UNK who md. Richard Parker and who had Patience Parker b. 1742. From paper trails, we know that Elizabeth was not Patience´s sister, so we have to go at least one more generation back (so 9 generations back, which also fits as to the test results) and thus, still have to figure out who this UNK was who md. Richard Parker or who Elizabeth was who md. Thomas Black (they were perhaps sisters). Fortunately, we have some good genealogists in the family and I think there is a good chance of finding out who Elizabeth was. On a further note as to the usefulness of mtDNA, HVR1 + HVR2 tests have been performed in descendants of female siblings of Esther Black of Thomas Black + Elizabeth UNK, and confirm siblingship. Linda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Jack for forwarding. -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jack Sellers Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:36 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween JamesT/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers FYI, I received this email through the Sellers List. Jack Sellers At 11:40 AM 6/2/2009, you wrote: >Carol, > >I ahve not been following the Sellers Y-DNA tests but think from what I >have heard, that we lack testing of these lines. Would also like to >point out, that for some reason, these messages are not going through >the list. I thought I sent my message via the Sellers list, so all >could see it, but perhaps not. If we want to reach potential Sellers >Y-DNA testers we need to post to the list. And otherwise, I find it >confounding that NONE of ny Sellers male lines have been on the boards >anywhere as to pursuing their ancestry, though I know there must be >some out there. So that makes it hard to track them down and ask them to take a test. > >Linda > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] >På vegne af Carol Herbert >Sendt: 2. juni 2009 18:03 >Til: sellers@rootsweb.com >Emne: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween >JamesT/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers > >Do we have anyone in the DNA group that tests back to this James T. or >James Sr. who married Patience in Chatham County? I see Laird and >Young, whom I assume are James. Sr. sons...according to Chatham County >Deeds. Is this right...or these simply Sellers from another part of >the state with the same given names? > > > > >________________________________ >From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> >To: sellers@rootsweb.com >Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:50:49 AM >Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James >T/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers > >It´s an mtDNA test. It´s hard with an mtDNA test to chose a particular >surmname group. My test has been uploaded to the Cumberland gap group. >I haven´t heard from him in awhile. I might ask him to join the >Cumberland Gap group too. My known line would be Black > Thompson > >Sellers. His would be Parker > Sellers to Hammond, if I recall. No, I >don´t think the connection is documented, but Y-DNA testing of the 2 >Sellers lines would do that, if we could find male descendants to take the test. > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] >På vegne af Carol Herbert >Sendt: 1. juni 2009 21:39 >Til: sellers@rootsweb.com >Emne: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James >T/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers > >What is the name/kit number of the match on the Sellers DNA results? I >very interested in the James Sr. who married Patience, whom I believe >to be the brother of Robert. Is this conection documented? > > > > >________________________________ >From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> >To: sellers@rootsweb.com; SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com >Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 4:36:51 AM >Subject: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James T/Y >Sellers and brother, Robert Sellers > > > > >I thought this might interest those connected with these families. >Looks like I do have a possible mtDNA match. If I understand the >Sellers info correctly, Patience Parker md. James T/Y Sellers (my >matche´s line) and James T/Y Sellers was brother of Robert Sellers > >John Sellers > James Sellers + Jane Thompson (my line). Richard Parker, >father of Patience left a will mentioning Patience and her sisters but >not the mother. None of the sisters match Elizabeth, so any link would >have to be back to mother of UNK who md. Richard Parker and Elizabeth >who md. Thomas Black. Something to work on at any rate. > >Linda > > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: Linda Peacock [mailto:lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk] >Sendt: 1. juni 2009 13:25 >Til: 'DNA-ANTHROGENEALOGY@yahoogroups.com' >Emne: TMRCA Calculation and Use of Full mtDNA + paper trails > >http://dna-project.clan-donald-usa.org/tmrca.htm > >To all, am sending link to calculation I just did based on a comparison >of my full mtDNA test with that of a person I sought out. He matched me >as to >HVR1 and HVR2 found him at Kerschner´s log) + his known paper trail >matched mine as to a common female surname and place, where my female >ancestors were. We upgraded his test to a full test and at first, I was >disappointed because I was thinking that we had to have a complete >match for there to be any chance of us sharing a common female ancestor >within the time frame of surnames. We are 3 markers "off" in the CR (I >have 2 mutations he doesn´t have and he has 1 that I don´t have). But I >just stumbled on Charles´ page as to calcualtion of a TMRCA based on >mtDNA. His example was using only the >HVR1 and HVR2. My calculation is based on utilizing the fact that we >are 3 markers off as to 16569 base pairs (full MtDNA test). If I >understand the calculation correctly, the result is that we have a >98.2% chance of our common ancestress being 9 generations back, which >is just how far back we are in time and place in the paper trails. That >being said, we have still not identified just who the common ancestress >was. Mine (8 generations back) is an Elizabeth UNK b. before 1749 who >md. Thomas Black. His is an UNK who md. Richard Parker and who had >Patience Parker b. 1742. From paper trails, we know that Elizabeth was >not Patience´s sister, so we have to go at least one more generation >back (so 9 generations back, which also fits as to the test results) and thus, still have to figure out who this UNK was who md. >Richard Parker or who Elizabeth was who md. Thomas Black (they were >perhaps sisters). Fortunately, we have some good genealogists in the >family and I think there is a good chance of finding out who Elizabeth >was. On a further note as to the usefulness of mtDNA, HVR1 + HVR2 tests >have been performed in descendants of female siblings of Esther Black >of Thomas Black + Elizabeth UNK, and confirm siblingship. > >Linda > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It´s an mtDNA test. It´s hard with an mtDNA test to chose a particular surmname group. My test has been uploaded to the Cumberland gap group. I haven´t heard from him in awhile. I might ask him to join the Cumberland Gap group too. My known line would be Black > Thompson > Sellers. His would be Parker > Sellers to Hammond, if I recall. No, I don´t think the connection is documented, but Y-DNA testing of the 2 Sellers lines would do that, if we could find male descendants to take the test. -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af Carol Herbert Sendt: 1. juni 2009 21:39 Til: sellers@rootsweb.com Emne: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James T/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers What is the name/kit number of the match on the Sellers DNA results?  I very interested in the James Sr. who married Patience, whom I believe to be the brother of Robert.  Is this conection documented? ________________________________ From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> To: sellers@rootsweb.com; SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 4:36:51 AM Subject: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James T/Y Sellers and brother, Robert Sellers I thought this might interest those connected with these families. Looks like I do have a possible mtDNA match. If I understand the Sellers info correctly, Patience Parker md. James T/Y Sellers (my matche´s line) and James T/Y Sellers was brother of Robert Sellers > John Sellers > James Sellers + Jane Thompson (my line). Richard Parker, father of Patience left a will mentioning Patience and her sisters but not the mother. None of the sisters match Elizabeth, so any link would have to be back to mother of UNK who md. Richard Parker and Elizabeth who md. Thomas Black. Something to work on at any rate. Linda -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Linda Peacock [mailto:lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk] Sendt: 1. juni 2009 13:25 Til: 'DNA-ANTHROGENEALOGY@yahoogroups.com' Emne: TMRCA Calculation and Use of Full mtDNA + paper trails http://dna-project.clan-donald-usa.org/tmrca.htm To all, am sending link to calculation I just did based on a comparison of my full mtDNA test with that of a person I sought out. He matched me as to HVR1 and HVR2 found him at Kerschner´s log) + his known paper trail matched mine as to a common female surname and place, where my female ancestors were. We upgraded his test to a full test and at first, I was disappointed because I was thinking that we had to have a complete match for there to be any chance of us sharing a common female ancestor within the time frame of surnames. We are 3 markers "off" in the CR (I have 2 mutations he doesn´t have and he has 1 that I don´t have). But I just stumbled on Charles´ page as to calcualtion of a TMRCA based on mtDNA. His example was using only the HVR1 and HVR2. My calculation is based on utilizing the fact that we are 3 markers off as to 16569 base pairs (full MtDNA test). If I understand the calculation correctly, the result is that we have a 98.2% chance of our common ancestress being 9 generations back, which is just how far back we are in time and place in the paper trails. That being said, we have still not identified just who the common ancestress was. Mine (8 generations back) is an Elizabeth UNK b. before 1749 who md. Thomas Black. His is an UNK who md. Richard Parker and who had Patience Parker b. 1742. From paper trails, we know that Elizabeth was not Patience´s sister, so we have to go at least one more generation back (so 9 generations back, which also fits as to the test results) and thus, still have to figure out who this UNK was who md. Richard Parker or who Elizabeth was who md. Thomas Black (they were perhaps sisters). Fortunately, we have some good genealogists in the family and I think there is a good chance of finding out who Elizabeth was. On a further note as to the usefulness of mtDNA, HVR1 + HVR2 tests have been performed in descendants of female siblings of Esther Black of Thomas Black + Elizabeth UNK, and confirm siblingship. Linda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

FYI, I received this email through the Sellers List. Jack Sellers At 11:40 AM 6/2/2009, you wrote: >Carol, > >I ahve not been following the Sellers Y-DNA tests but think from what I have >heard, that we lack testing of these lines. Would also like to point out, >that for some reason, these messages are not going through the list. I >thought I sent my message via the Sellers list, so all could see it, but >perhaps not. If we want to reach potential Sellers Y-DNA testers we need to >post to the list. And otherwise, I find it confounding that NONE of ny >Sellers male lines have been on the boards anywhere as to pursuing their >ancestry, though I know there must be some out there. So that makes it hard >to track them down and ask them to take a test. > >Linda > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] På >vegne af Carol Herbert >Sendt: 2. juni 2009 18:03 >Til: sellers@rootsweb.com >Emne: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween JamesT/YSellers >and brother, Robert Sellers > >Do we have anyone in the DNA group that tests back to this James T. or James >Sr. who married Patience in Chatham County? I see Laird and Young, whom I >assume are James. Sr. sons...according to Chatham County Deeds. Is this >right...or these simply Sellers from another part of the state with the same >given names? > > > > >________________________________ >From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> >To: sellers@rootsweb.com >Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:50:49 AM >Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James >T/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers > >It´s an mtDNA test. It´s hard with an mtDNA test to chose a particular >surmname group. My test has been uploaded to the Cumberland gap group. I >haven´t heard from him in awhile. I might ask him to join the Cumberland Gap >group too. My known line would be Black > Thompson > Sellers. His would be >Parker > Sellers to Hammond, if I recall. No, I don´t think the connection >is documented, but Y-DNA testing of the 2 Sellers lines would do that, if we >could find male descendants to take the test. > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] På >vegne af Carol Herbert >Sendt: 1. juni 2009 21:39 >Til: sellers@rootsweb.com >Emne: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James >T/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers > >What is the name/kit number of the match on the Sellers DNA results? I very >interested in the James Sr. who married Patience, whom I believe to be the >brother of Robert. Is this conection documented? > > > > >________________________________ >From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> >To: sellers@rootsweb.com; SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com >Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 4:36:51 AM >Subject: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James T/Y >Sellers and brother, Robert Sellers > > > > >I thought this might interest those connected with these families. Looks >like I do have a possible mtDNA match. If I understand the Sellers info >correctly, Patience Parker md. James T/Y Sellers (my matche´s line) and >James T/Y Sellers was brother of Robert Sellers > John Sellers > James >Sellers + Jane Thompson (my line). Richard Parker, father of Patience left a >will mentioning Patience and her sisters but not the mother. None of the >sisters match Elizabeth, so any link would have to be back to mother of UNK >who md. Richard Parker and Elizabeth who md. Thomas Black. Something to work >on at any rate. > >Linda > > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >Fra: Linda Peacock [mailto:lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk] >Sendt: 1. juni 2009 13:25 >Til: 'DNA-ANTHROGENEALOGY@yahoogroups.com' >Emne: TMRCA Calculation and Use of Full mtDNA + paper trails > >http://dna-project.clan-donald-usa.org/tmrca.htm > >To all, am sending link to calculation I just did based on a comparison of >my full mtDNA test with that of a person I sought out. He matched me as to >HVR1 and HVR2 found him at Kerschner´s log) + his known paper trail matched >mine as to a common female surname and place, where my female ancestors >were. We upgraded his test to a full test and at first, I was disappointed >because I was thinking that we had to have a complete match for there to be >any chance of us sharing a common female ancestor within the time frame of >surnames. We are 3 markers "off" in the CR (I have 2 mutations he doesn´t >have and he has 1 that I don´t have). But I just stumbled on Charles´ page >as to calcualtion of a TMRCA based on mtDNA. His example was using only the >HVR1 and HVR2. My calculation is based on utilizing the fact that we are 3 >markers off as to 16569 base pairs (full MtDNA test). If I understand the >calculation correctly, the result is that we have a 98.2% chance of our >common ancestress being 9 generations back, which is just how far back we >are in time and place in the paper trails. That being said, we have still >not identified just who the common ancestress was. Mine (8 generations back) >is an Elizabeth UNK b. before 1749 who md. Thomas Black. His is an UNK who >md. Richard Parker and who had Patience Parker b. 1742. From paper trails, >we know that Elizabeth was not Patience´s sister, so we have to go at least >one more generation back (so 9 generations back, which also fits as to the >test results) and thus, still have to figure out who this UNK was who md. >Richard Parker or who Elizabeth was who md. Thomas Black (they were perhaps >sisters). Fortunately, we have some good genealogists in the family and I >think there is a good chance of finding out who Elizabeth was. On a further >note as to the usefulness of mtDNA, HVR1 + HVR2 tests have been performed in >descendants of female siblings of Esther Black of Thomas Black + Elizabeth >UNK, and confirm siblingship. > >Linda > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the >word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message

Do we have anyone in the DNA group that tests back to this James T. or James Sr. who married Patience in Chatham County?  I see Laird and Young, whom I assume are James. Sr. sons...according to Chatham County Deeds.  Is this right...or these simply Sellers from another part of the state with the same given names? ________________________________ From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> To: sellers@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:50:49 AM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James T/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers It´s an mtDNA test. It´s hard with an mtDNA test to chose a particular surmname group. My test has been uploaded to the Cumberland gap group. I haven´t heard from him in awhile. I might ask him to join the Cumberland Gap group too. My known line would be Black > Thompson > Sellers. His would be Parker > Sellers to Hammond, if I recall. No, I don´t think the connection is documented, but Y-DNA testing of the 2 Sellers lines would do that, if we could find male descendants to take the test. -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne af Carol Herbert Sendt: 1. juni 2009 21:39 Til: sellers@rootsweb.com Emne: Re: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James T/YSellers and brother, Robert Sellers What is the name/kit number of the match on the Sellers DNA results?  I very interested in the James Sr. who married Patience, whom I believe to be the brother of Robert.  Is this conection documented? ________________________________ From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> To: sellers@rootsweb.com; SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 4:36:51 AM Subject: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James T/Y Sellers and brother, Robert Sellers I thought this might interest those connected with these families. Looks like I do have a possible mtDNA match. If I understand the Sellers info correctly, Patience Parker md. James T/Y Sellers (my matche´s line) and James T/Y Sellers was brother of Robert Sellers > John Sellers > James Sellers + Jane Thompson (my line). Richard Parker, father of Patience left a will mentioning Patience and her sisters but not the mother. None of the sisters match Elizabeth, so any link would have to be back to mother of UNK who md. Richard Parker and Elizabeth who md. Thomas Black. Something to work on at any rate. Linda -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Linda Peacock [mailto:lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk] Sendt: 1. juni 2009 13:25 Til: 'DNA-ANTHROGENEALOGY@yahoogroups.com' Emne: TMRCA Calculation and Use of Full mtDNA + paper trails http://dna-project.clan-donald-usa.org/tmrca.htm To all, am sending link to calculation I just did based on a comparison of my full mtDNA test with that of a person I sought out. He matched me as to HVR1 and HVR2 found him at Kerschner´s log) + his known paper trail matched mine as to a common female surname and place, where my female ancestors were. We upgraded his test to a full test and at first, I was disappointed because I was thinking that we had to have a complete match for there to be any chance of us sharing a common female ancestor within the time frame of surnames. We are 3 markers "off" in the CR (I have 2 mutations he doesn´t have and he has 1 that I don´t have). But I just stumbled on Charles´ page as to calcualtion of a TMRCA based on mtDNA. His example was using only the HVR1 and HVR2. My calculation is based on utilizing the fact that we are 3 markers off as to 16569 base pairs (full MtDNA test). If I understand the calculation correctly, the result is that we have a 98.2% chance of our common ancestress being 9 generations back, which is just how far back we are in time and place in the paper trails. That being said, we have still not identified just who the common ancestress was. Mine (8 generations back) is an Elizabeth UNK b. before 1749 who md. Thomas Black. His is an UNK who md. Richard Parker and who had Patience Parker b. 1742. From paper trails, we know that Elizabeth was not Patience´s sister, so we have to go at least one more generation back (so 9 generations back, which also fits as to the test results) and thus, still have to figure out who this UNK was who md. Richard Parker or who Elizabeth was who md. Thomas Black (they were perhaps sisters). Fortunately, we have some good genealogists in the family and I think there is a good chance of finding out who Elizabeth was. On a further note as to the usefulness of mtDNA, HVR1 + HVR2 tests have been performed in descendants of female siblings of Esther Black of Thomas Black + Elizabeth UNK, and confirm siblingship. Linda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I thought this might interest those connected with these families. Looks like I do have a possible mtDNA match. If I understand the Sellers info correctly, Patience Parker md. James T/Y Sellers (my matche´s line) and James T/Y Sellers was brother of Robert Sellers > John Sellers > James Sellers + Jane Thompson (my line). Richard Parker, father of Patience left a will mentioning Patience and her sisters but not the mother. None of the sisters match Elizabeth, so any link would have to be back to mother of UNK who md. Richard Parker and Elizabeth who md. Thomas Black. Something to work on at any rate. Linda -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Linda Peacock [mailto:lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk] Sendt: 1. juni 2009 13:25 Til: 'DNA-ANTHROGENEALOGY@yahoogroups.com' Emne: TMRCA Calculation and Use of Full mtDNA + paper trails http://dna-project.clan-donald-usa.org/tmrca.htm To all, am sending link to calculation I just did based on a comparison of my full mtDNA test with that of a person I sought out. He matched me as to HVR1 and HVR2 found him at Kerschner´s log) + his known paper trail matched mine as to a common female surname and place, where my female ancestors were. We upgraded his test to a full test and at first, I was disappointed because I was thinking that we had to have a complete match for there to be any chance of us sharing a common female ancestor within the time frame of surnames. We are 3 markers "off" in the CR (I have 2 mutations he doesn´t have and he has 1 that I don´t have). But I just stumbled on Charles´ page as to calcualtion of a TMRCA based on mtDNA. His example was using only the HVR1 and HVR2. My calculation is based on utilizing the fact that we are 3 markers off as to 16569 base pairs (full MtDNA test). If I understand the calculation correctly, the result is that we have a 98.2% chance of our common ancestress being 9 generations back, which is just how far back we are in time and place in the paper trails. That being said, we have still not identified just who the common ancestress was. Mine (8 generations back) is an Elizabeth UNK b. before 1749 who md. Thomas Black. His is an UNK who md. Richard Parker and who had Patience Parker b. 1742. From paper trails, we know that Elizabeth was not Patience´s sister, so we have to go at least one more generation back (so 9 generations back, which also fits as to the test results) and thus, still have to figure out who this UNK was who md. Richard Parker or who Elizabeth was who md. Thomas Black (they were perhaps sisters). Fortunately, we have some good genealogists in the family and I think there is a good chance of finding out who Elizabeth was. On a further note as to the usefulness of mtDNA, HVR1 + HVR2 tests have been performed in descendants of female siblings of Esther Black of Thomas Black + Elizabeth UNK, and confirm siblingship. Linda

What is the name/kit number of the match on the Sellers DNA results?  I very interested in the James Sr. who married Patience, whom I believe to be the brother of Robert.  Is this conection documented? ________________________________ From: Linda Peacock <lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk> To: sellers@rootsweb.com; SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 4:36:51 AM Subject: [SELLERS] Possible female line connection bewtween James T/Y Sellers and brother, Robert Sellers I thought this might interest those connected with these families. Looks like I do have a possible mtDNA match. If I understand the Sellers info correctly, Patience Parker md. James T/Y Sellers (my matche´s line) and James T/Y Sellers was brother of Robert Sellers > John Sellers > James Sellers + Jane Thompson (my line). Richard Parker, father of Patience left a will mentioning Patience and her sisters but not the mother. None of the sisters match Elizabeth, so any link would have to be back to mother of UNK who md. Richard Parker and Elizabeth who md. Thomas Black. Something to work on at any rate. Linda -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Linda Peacock [mailto:lindapeacock@vip.cybercity.dk] Sendt: 1. juni 2009 13:25 Til: 'DNA-ANTHROGENEALOGY@yahoogroups.com' Emne: TMRCA Calculation and Use of Full mtDNA + paper trails http://dna-project.clan-donald-usa.org/tmrca.htm To all, am sending link to calculation I just did based on a comparison of my full mtDNA test with that of a person I sought out. He matched me as to HVR1 and HVR2 found him at Kerschner´s log) + his known paper trail matched mine as to a common female surname and place, where my female ancestors were. We upgraded his test to a full test and at first, I was disappointed because I was thinking that we had to have a complete match for there to be any chance of us sharing a common female ancestor within the time frame of surnames. We are 3 markers "off" in the CR (I have 2 mutations he doesn´t have and he has 1 that I don´t have). But I just stumbled on Charles´ page as to calcualtion of a TMRCA based on mtDNA. His example was using only the HVR1 and HVR2. My calculation is based on utilizing the fact that we are 3 markers off as to 16569 base pairs (full MtDNA test). If I understand the calculation correctly, the result is that we have a 98.2% chance of our common ancestress being 9 generations back, which is just how far back we are in time and place in the paper trails. That being said, we have still not identified just who the common ancestress was. Mine (8 generations back) is an Elizabeth UNK b. before 1749 who md. Thomas Black. His is an UNK who md. Richard Parker and who had Patience Parker b. 1742. From paper trails, we know that Elizabeth was not Patience´s sister, so we have to go at least one more generation back (so 9 generations back, which also fits as to the test results) and thus, still have to figure out who this UNK was who md. Richard Parker or who Elizabeth was who md. Thomas Black (they were perhaps sisters). Fortunately, we have some good genealogists in the family and I think there is a good chance of finding out who Elizabeth was. On a further note as to the usefulness of mtDNA, HVR1 + HVR2 tests have been performed in descendants of female siblings of Esther Black of Thomas Black + Elizabeth UNK, and confirm siblingship. Linda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

BILL, thanks. will add to our Rowan, NC page. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: Bill Trott [mailto:WTROTT@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 11:11 AM To: Sellers List Subject: Early NC Naturalizations] Marie, has this been noted before, or is it of no consequence? Bill Trott Pasadena, TX -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Early NC Naturalizations Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 08:54:50 -0700 From: Francie Lane <mailto:francielane@comcast.net> <francielane@comcast.net> Reply-To: rowanroots@rootsweb.com To: <mailto:rowanroots@rootsweb.com> <rowanroots@rootsweb.com>, <mailto:mhg68@msn.com> <mhg68@msn.com> Marla, I don't know whether naturalization papers from the 1760's still exist; however, a number of years ago I read the microfilm of early Salisbury District Court minutes, and transcribed the following 1764 oaths taken by German-born residents of the region: From: Salisbury, NC, District Superior Court Minutes 1756-1800. (LDS film #1486561) 22 September 1764 p. 95 - The following persons, natives of Germany, appear in open court with property certificates and was Naturalized according to Law by taking the Oaths by Law appointed for that purpose: Martin Loye Jacob Houseman Conrad Stoner Henry Drolinger George Sharp Lodwick Henry Sharp Barney Dropler Conrad Salor Jacob Summers Henry Ker Adam Smith Francie -----------------original ------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 07:01:23 -0700 From: "Marla Goodrich" <mailto:mhg68@msn.com> <mhg68@msn.com> Subject: [NCROWAN] naturalization To: <mailto:NCROWAN-L@rootsweb.com> <NCROWAN-L@rootsweb.com>, "rowanroots" <mailto:rowanroots@rootsweb.com> <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <mailto:COL102-DS213A5CD8403D8D4D7A07E8A9510@phx.gbl> <COL102-DS213A5CD8403D8D4D7A07E8A9510@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Does anyone know how to access naturalization papers for someone in the 1760's. I think he was naturalized in Rowan Co. At least that was where he was living. Also, were there applications for natualization in those days? Thank you, Marla Goodrich ____________________________________________________________ Get your dream car or truck. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLa8tJz7WxQQhM3DTrRhgz T HdlYSFmyrMIelhioDLWMtT4I8fKu6c/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lindapeacock400 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/2254.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: admitch - if you google "James Manson Sellers", you will find Family group sheets for James Manson Sellers, which were posted at the Sellers site recently. I could repeat it, but it´s all there. You are related to my Sellers family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

JACK , she is not subbed under that email, which the last one I see in Aug 2008. Maybe someone else has contact with her and can help. Thanks for helping, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: Jack Sellers [mailto:Jack-Sellers@Comcast.Net] Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 3:47 PM To: marie sellers hollinger Subject: Mitzi Merritt Marie, Is Mitzi Merritt signed up on the Sellers site? The email I have is mitzi@cncnet.com I've lost touch with her and am concerned. Thanks Jack Sellers

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TIFFANEY, thanks, hopefully someone can help. A funeral home in Columbus county might help. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: homedo23@cox.net [mailto:homedo23@cox.net] Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 11:16 PM To: marie sellers hollinger Subject: RE: Sellers cemetery/NC The sellers Cemetery is in Columbus Co. It listes Theresa E. Sellers - Ward 1846-1900 (her Husband) Samuel W. Ward 1842-1929 It lists other Ward's in there as well i couldn't remember where i got your list from but this is the same one that someone else put online SELLERS CEMETERY Columbus County, NC Submitted by Dave High, June 1998 North Carolina, Columbus County, NC All rights reserved, 1998. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Search: Ctrl + F Transcribed by David B. High, May 1998 from the private publication "They're Buried in Our Past, Columbus County, NC, 1808-1883" dated December, 1983. Permission granted by the authors. 1 Joel Sellers, Co G, 3rd NC Arty, CSA (no dates). A death Certificate for Joseph C. Sellers in Bk 1, P 172, Col Cty Vital Stats. Gives dates of 1826-1914 2 W. F. Sellers, 10/20/1886-5/3/1965 3 G. C. Sellers, 8/16/1849-1/27/1940 4 Almira, wife of G. C. Sellers, 8/21/1855-5/17/1911 5 W. H. Sellers, 2/21/1877-10/21/1943 6 Metal marker, illegible 7 J. O. Williams, 4/19/1845-7/13/1902 8 Georgia W. Wright, 4/7/1871-5/1/1918, wife of Lewis D. Wright 9 Lewis D. Wright, 1/26/1875-8/24/1921 10 Mack Chappel Wright, son of Lewis & Georgie Wright, 2/16/1918-5/8/1918 (Note mother's death date) 11 Metal marker, only the post left 12 Samuel J. Ward, Co G, 51st NC Infantry, CSA, no dates 13 Theresa, wife of S. W. Ward, 1/20/1846-11/13/1900 14 Blanche M., daughter of J. M. & L. M. Ward, 12/2/1909-2/19/1911 15, 16, & 17, metal markers with only the posts left 18 Mary F. Cribb, wife of W. C. Ward, 9/14/1872-4/19/1945 19 Crettie E. Ward, 6/26/1894-10/21/1918 20 Ella Ward, 8/24/1889-10/8/1953 21 Hattie Ward, 6/5/1888-8/6/1923 22 Dora C. Ward, 12/10/1871-8/9/1937, wife of R. M. Ward 23 R. M. Ward, 11/2/1869-1/9/1945 24 Docia Lee, daughter of W. A. & L. B. Bass, 6/8/1890-1/22/1891 25 L. B. Bass, wife of W. A. Bass, 3/4/1866-9/2/1928 26 W. A. Bass, 1/13/1864-3/12/1929 27 Metal marker, illegible Note: Additional information given to Mr Graham Fore by Mr Joseph (Joe) Sellers: 28 Mary Wright Sellers, wife of V. P. Sellers, died 11/4/1932, 69 yrs old 29 Janie, infant daughter of V. P. & Mary W. Sellers 30 Laura Sellers, wife of Troy Sellers ; she died in Robeson County, NC 31 Charles Franklin Tuton According to Mr Sellers, these four are buried in the front row, near a crepe myrtle tree. This is the Cemetery i am trying to find any help would be wonderful I know it is short notice to help but if at all possible that would be so great. Thanks Tiffany ---- marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: > TIFFANY, > Just a quick note thro our SELLERS GROUP to help you quickly. > > MANY SELLERS cemeteries. > TOWN, > THERESA SELLERS age, parents, grandparents, etc. > SO WE know who she is. > > Thanks for sharing SELLERS, marie, iowa > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: homedo23@cox.net [mailto:homedo23@cox.net] > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 10:06 PM > To: mari@netins.net > Subject: Sellers cemetery > > > Do you happen to know the exact location of the sellers cemetery? We > are driving to NC on Sunday and tryin to locate this cemetery my > husband is an desendent of Samuel Ward and Theresa Sellers. any help > would be great thank you Tiffany Ward >

TIFFANY, Just a quick note thro our SELLERS GROUP to help you quickly. MANY SELLERS cemeteries. TOWN, THERESA SELLERS age, parents, grandparents, etc. SO WE know who she is. Thanks for sharing SELLERS, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: homedo23@cox.net [mailto:homedo23@cox.net] Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 10:06 PM To: mari@netins.net Subject: Sellers cemetery Do you happen to know the exact location of the sellers cemetery? We are driving to NC on Sunday and tryin to locate this cemetery my husband is an desendent of Samuel Ward and Theresa Sellers. any help would be great thank you Tiffany Ward

MIKE, thank you. I am sending a copy thro our SELLERS discussion group, as you have cousin members and your wife's dad's dna test should match. We use FTM, about $100. Join = at bottom of this page at = http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?code=B24965 <http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?code=B24965&Group=Sellers> &Group=Sellers Our results and lineages = http://www.sellers-sellars-sollars-zellars.net/sellers_dna_results.htm I believe the Carter Sellers is in Wash Co., Tn. Thanks for helping on this dna, it will be very helpful. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: Michael C Lynn [mailto:mike@lazerexpress.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:13 AM To: 'marie sellers hollinger' Subject: RE: Sellers DNA Marie, The DNA would come from my father in law. Bobby Dean Sellers. Who are most using for their DNA? I used Ancestry for mine. How many markers are needed? On the information on James M Sellers, I have found a marriage cert between James M Sellers and Kitwah Smith in Carter Co, TN. I have yet to prove or disprove that it is the same James M Sellers. Working on that now. I can't find anything more on Kitwah, like what happen to her. I am not convinced on James M's parents either. I have been told by older people that this was their names. I question that and am open for suggestions or better proof of their name and origin. As far as James M, I am beginning to question him, but I have the Wasson side whom all claim that he was James M also. Anything else, let me know. Mike From: marie sellers hollinger [mailto:mari@netins.net] Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 10:38 PM To: 'Michael C Lynn' Cc: marie sellers hollinger Subject: RE: Sellers DNA MIKE, thank you for charts, etc. Yes, a dna test, cheek swab, is what we need on ANY SELLERS in your chart. Please help trace back her relation to a known, living SELLERS, who would do a dna test for us. On the chart you sent, you include an earlier marriage, etc, here. I believe it is this?= 1. James M1 SELLERS , born 1822 in TN; died 10 Apr 1865 in McMinn Co, TN, son of James SELLERS and (---) Elizabeth . He married (1) on 4 Apr 1846 in Carter Co, TN Kitwah SMITH , born 1822 in TN; (2) on 21 Jan 1847 in Athens, McMinn Co, TN Martha Patsy WASSON , born 20 May 1830 in McMinn Co, TN; died 10 Mar 1899 in Stilwell, Adair Co, OK, daughter of Jonas WASSON (Sr) and Catherine WEAVER . WHO IS KITWAH SMITH? HOW PROVEN same James Sellers. I didn't check out our Carter Co, Tn info, FILL me in. Keep in touch. marie,iowa -----Original Message----- From: Michael C Lynn [mailto:mike@lazerexpress.com] Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 12:59 PM To: 'marie sellers hollinger' Subject: Sellers DNA Marie, Who is the keeper of the Sellers DNA ? Do you have any information on James Filmore Sellers Sr. 's ancestors or descendants? What do you need from me to put me in contact with others from his line? Thanks Mike Lynn Okmulgee, OK

Hi Carol: Right here on the SELLERS list is probably the best place to watch for news from this reunion down in Troy, AL. Those in attendance are DNA matches for the children leading back to Benjamin Sellers of Brunswick Co., NC that died in 1761. There may be others too. Wish you could join us. Lynda Green ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Herbert" <carolherbert@sbcglobal.net> To: sellers@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 10:39:46 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [SELLERS] NEED TO REACH JOHN BLAKEMORE SELLERS??? I do not have an address. I am VERY interested in any information that might come from the Reunion about Johnston County/Nash County North Carolina Sellers. I am a DNA participant as well as subscriber to Sellers chat room. Where might this type of info be posted after the reunion? I wish I could be there!