When you are searching 1900 Albemarle County, Virginia, only put in the search engine the last name of Scan* and born Virginia, and you will find several Scantling families but no Frederick W. Scantling was found of the proper age. When I have time I will try looking at the actual census records page by page. There is a possible grandmother born 1833 still living in 1900. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Sellers" <muckham11@yahoo.com> To: <sellers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed Charles W. Scantling, possible/potential father of Frederick William Scantling, was listed as age 70 on the 1930 Census for White Hall District, Albemarle County, Virginia. Since an Obituary for Charles would be more recent, it might be worth hunting for his obit as well to see if any and all children were listed. Michael Sellers --- On Tue, 9/8/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 10:50 PM BEVERLY, thanks, I have also for many years. The Local Genealogy societies, usually located at libraries, collect ALL this info. Some on line now. COUNTY/STATE USGENWEB should get you close to an address. Many you write and a very small donation keeps them happy. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beverly Taylor Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 7:43 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I don't know about others, but I have had a ton of luck getting obits by calling the local libraries in the cities that I am finding people died. An occasional $5 charge can get a lot of obits with the death dates known. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Michael, did you find this in the 1900 Albemarle County, VA, census? Very likely a brother to Charles W. Scantling. Indexed as Scan* on Ancestry 1900 Albemarle County, Virginia White Hall District Page 264A Page 19 of 38 F. W. Scantling, head, W, M, September 1862, age 37, married 10 years, VA, VA, VA, carpenter Mary B. Scantling, wife W, F, March 1866, age 34, married 10 years, 4 children born, 3 children living, VA, VA, VA Fannie B. Scantling, daughter, W, F, March 1889, age 11, VA, VA, VA Allen Scantling, son, W, M, March 1894, age 6, VA, VA, VA May E. Scantling, daughter, W, F, March 1897, age, 3, VA, VA, VA Georgia #1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Sellers" <muckham11@yahoo.com> To: <sellers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed Charles W. Scantling, possible/potential father of Frederick William Scantling, was listed as age 70 on the 1930 Census for White Hall District, Albemarle County, Virginia. Since an Obituary for Charles would be more recent, it might be worth hunting for his obit as well to see if any and all children were listed. Michael Sellers --- On Tue, 9/8/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 10:50 PM BEVERLY, thanks, I have also for many years. The Local Genealogy societies, usually located at libraries, collect ALL this info. Some on line now. COUNTY/STATE USGENWEB should get you close to an address. Many you write and a very small donation keeps them happy. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beverly Taylor Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 7:43 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I don't know about others, but I have had a ton of luck getting obits by calling the local libraries in the cities that I am finding people died. An occasional $5 charge can get a lot of obits with the death dates known. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Genealogy.com lists a Fred Scantling in Kentucky in 1900, whom I can't find on Ancestry.com. I don't subscribe to that database, so I can't see any other information. Maybe he was in Kentucky for a while. I did notice that he and his wife Carrie were in Dayton, OH in 1910. Jim ________________________________ From: Jim Sellars <jimsellars@ymail.com> To: sellers@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 10:31:58 PM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed Here are some other Scantlings in Albemarle in 1900: - F. G. Scantling (indexed under Scanthng), female student, born March 1885, in Samuel Miller, Albemarle Co., VA. - Creed Scanlan, born June 1897, grandson in household of J. C. Thompson, Samuel Miller, Albemarle Co., VA - G. M. Scantling, male born Sep 1874, Samuel Miller, Albemarle Co., VA - Lizzie Scantling, female born Oct 1883, servant for Bernard Thacker, Charlottesville, Albemarle Co., VA It was interesting that the M. E. Scanting, female born 1833, of Samuel Miller, was shown as married and not widowed. I think many pages may be missing (at Ancestry.com) out of the 1900 census. When I went through them page by page I noticed many are in the database twice. Jim Sellars ________________________________ From: Georgia L. Fletcher <chickfletcher@comcast.net> To: sellers@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 8:48:46 PM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed Michael, did you find this in the 1900 Albemarle County, VA, census?  Very likely a brother to Charles W. Scantling. Indexed as Scan* on Ancestry 1900 Albemarle County, Virginia White Hall District Page 264A Page 19 of 38 F. W. Scantling, head, W, M, September 1862, age 37, married 10 years, VA, VA, VA, carpenter Mary B. Scantling, wife W, F, March 1866, age 34, married 10 years, 4 children born, 3 children living, VA, VA, VA Fannie B. Scantling, daughter, W, F, March 1889, age 11, VA, VA, VA Allen Scantling, son, W, M, March 1894, age 6, VA, VA, VA May E. Scantling, daughter, W, F, March 1897, age, 3, VA, VA, VA Georgia #1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Sellers" <muckham11@yahoo.com> To: <sellers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed Charles W. Scantling, possible/potential father of Frederick William Scantling, was listed as age 70 on the 1930 Census for White Hall District, Albemarle County, Virginia. Since an Obituary for Charles would be more recent, it might be worth hunting for his obit as well to see if any and all children were listed. Michael Sellers --- On Tue, 9/8/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 10:50 PM BEVERLY, thanks, I have also for many years. The Local Genealogy societies, usually located at libraries, collect ALL this info. Some on line now. COUNTY/STATE USGENWEB should get you close to an address. Many you write and a very small donation keeps them happy. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beverly Taylor Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 7:43 PM To: sellers@rootsweb..com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I don't know about others, but I have had a ton of luck getting obits by calling the local libraries in the cities that I am finding people died. An occasional $5 charge can get a lot of obits with the death dates known. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here are some other Scantlings in Albemarle in 1900: - F. G. Scantling (indexed under Scanthng), female student, born March 1885, in Samuel Miller, Albemarle Co., VA. - Creed Scanlan, born June 1897, grandson in household of J. C. Thompson, Samuel Miller, Albemarle Co., VA - G. M. Scantling, male born Sep 1874, Samuel Miller, Albemarle Co., VA - Lizzie Scantling, female born Oct 1883, servant for Bernard Thacker, Charlottesville, Albemarle Co., VA It was interesting that the M. E. Scanting, female born 1833, of Samuel Miller, was shown as married and not widowed. I think many pages may be missing (at Ancestry.com) out of the 1900 census. When I went through them page by page I noticed many are in the database twice. Jim Sellars ________________________________ From: Georgia L. Fletcher <chickfletcher@comcast.net> To: sellers@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 8:48:46 PM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed Michael, did you find this in the 1900 Albemarle County, VA, census?  Very likely a brother to Charles W. Scantling. Indexed as Scan* on Ancestry 1900 Albemarle County, Virginia White Hall District Page 264A Page 19 of 38 F. W. Scantling, head, W, M, September 1862, age 37, married 10 years, VA, VA, VA, carpenter Mary B. Scantling, wife W, F, March 1866, age 34, married 10 years, 4 children born, 3 children living, VA, VA, VA Fannie B. Scantling, daughter, W, F, March 1889, age 11, VA, VA, VA Allen Scantling, son, W, M, March 1894, age 6, VA, VA, VA May E. Scantling, daughter, W, F, March 1897, age, 3, VA, VA, VA Georgia #1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Sellers" <muckham11@yahoo.com> To: <sellers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed Charles W. Scantling, possible/potential father of Frederick William Scantling, was listed as age 70 on the 1930 Census for White Hall District, Albemarle County, Virginia. Since an Obituary for Charles would be more recent, it might be worth hunting for his obit as well to see if any and all children were listed. Michael Sellers --- On Tue, 9/8/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 10:50 PM BEVERLY, thanks, I have also for many years. The Local Genealogy societies, usually located at libraries, collect ALL this info. Some on line now. COUNTY/STATE USGENWEB should get you close to an address. Many you write and a very small donation keeps them happy. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beverly Taylor Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 7:43 PM To: sellers@rootsweb..com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I don't know about others, but I have had a ton of luck getting obits by calling the local libraries in the cities that I am finding people died. An occasional $5 charge can get a lot of obits with the death dates known. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

BEVERLY, thanks, I have also for many years. The Local Genealogy societies, usually located at libraries, collect ALL this info. Some on line now. COUNTY/STATE USGENWEB should get you close to an address. Many you write and a very small donation keeps them happy. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beverly Taylor Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 7:43 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I don't know about others, but I have had a ton of luck getting obits by calling the local libraries in the cities that I am finding people died. An occasional $5 charge can get a lot of obits with the death dates known. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

GEORGIA and MICHAEL I believe I tried Ancestry and Old newspaper subscription from memory and nothing. But, hometown,county may have. I would use the county/state usgenweb or the free forum and ask for a look up. The JIM that just wrote today, may NOT be member, but, I forwarded on letter. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:25 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed Well, that's a really good idea.  Unfortunately, my source(s) for obits is rather non-existent, and I have been unable to find anything for them on the net.  One of these days I'll probably have to pry open my wallet and get an Ancestry subscription, but for now I don't have one.  And, I haven't found a good source for obits elsewhere online.   Michael --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Georgia L. Fletcher <chickfletcher@comcast.net> wrote: From: Georgia L. Fletcher <chickfletcher@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:20 PM Michael, have you tried to find an obit in the home newpaper in Virginia.  I would think their hometown in VA would have an obit and probably mention parents and siblings since this is where they lived for so long before moving to CA. Georgia #1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Sellers" <muckham11@yahoo.com> To: <sellers@rootsweb.com>; "Sherri" <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > Thanks again for the great info. We'll keep swinging at it and > hopefully > the names of his parents will fall out of the tree at some point. > > Sherri, thanks much for the .PDF copies of Carrie's obituary and of > Fred's > death notice. > Carrie's obit does indeed state that she was born on October 2, 1889, > however, that was in error. She was born on that date in 1880, not 1889. > Plus, it's kind of difficult to be 84 years old in 1965 with a birth year > of 1889. > > I have yet to locate Frederick on any record prior to the 1910 Census, > although I do know that Fred and Carrie were married on the homestead of > her father in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia, on February 10, 1909. > I guess we're down to a birth record or their marriage record being > located as opportunities to find out Fred's parents. > > Michael > > --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > From: Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> > Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > To: "'Michael Sellers'" <muckham11@yahoo.com>, sellers@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 8:01 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ve received the obits of Frederick and Carrie. Unfortunately, they > don’t > shed a lot of light. > > From the Hemet News June 6, 1965, p. 8 > > Services Held in San Jacinto for Carrie Scantling > > Services were held Saturday morning in Harford Funeral Home in San > Jacinto > for Mrs. Carrie Haolland Scantling, 84, who passed away Wednesday in a > Riverside hospital. The Rev. William Thomas officiated at the rites, and > burial was in San Jacinto Valley Cemetery. > > Churchville, Virginia was Mrs. Scantling’s birthplace on October 2, > 1889. > She had been a resident of this area for 12 years, living at 265 East > Third street, San Jacinto. > > She is survived by her widower, Frederick W. Scantling; a son, > Frederick > II, of Los Angeles, and three grandchildren. > > From the Hemet News, 5 June 1973, p. 3: > > Services Pending > Funeral services are pending at the Harford Funeral Home for Frederick > W. > Scantling, 87, who died Monday at Hemet Community Hospital. > > Sorry these are not more help. They did send me both of these as pdf > files, so if you want copies, just let me know. > > Sherri > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Michael Sellers > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:45 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > Sherri, > > That's awesome and much appreciated. I'll look forward to seeing if it > can be located. > > --- On Sun, 8/23/09, Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > From: Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 5:39 AM > > > I've requested a copy of his obituary through RAOGK. Hopefully it will > shed > some light on his family - parents and siblings. Will send when I receive. > > Sherri > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of marie sellers hollinger > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 10:52 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > I was afraid of that. > You have already done pretty complete job. > Riverside, CA usgenweb, ask for help, if they lived there very long. I > didn't check city directories and my old newspapers aren't working > tonite, but, didn't see on a fast search and didn't see on obit > indexes that I have. > > Kids of C.W. = followed up in census? I am sure you have. You do good > work. > > He isn't a CW age, but Scantlings in CW? > > Best wishes, marie, iowa > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Michael Sellers > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:46 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > > The California Death Certificate abstract for Frederick William > Scantling is blank concerning the names of his parents. > > Michael > > --- On Sat, 8/22/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: > > > From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 9:13 PM > > > I believe I would try the death certificate, as suggested earlier. > Thanks, marie, iowa > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Michael Sellers > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:06 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > > First off, thanks for the efforts and help. It is much appreciated. > > Marie & all, > Carrie Holland Sellers was the 14th of 14 children born to Jerome > Howard Brown Sellers (Nov. 14, 1825 - Feb. 27, 1910) and Margaret > Rebecca Bell (Nov. 2, 1832 - June 17, 1907). Carrie was born in > Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia, on October 2, 1880, and died in > Riverside County, California, on June 2, 1965. > > Carrie married Frederick William Scantling on February 10, 1909, at > the home of her parents in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. I do > not know where the Marriage License was obtained. However, given that > they were married in Augusta County, it's more than likely that the > License was obtained there. Perhaps there is a Marriage Record for > them in Augusta County and possibly it was name/list Fred's parents? > > Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, in Albemarle > County, Virginia. His World War I Draft Registration card listed the > specific town in Albemarle in which he was born as "Crozet" > (pronounced Kro-zay). There were two Scantling families in that area > into the 1930s. One family, that of Charles W. Scantling, possibly > could've been Fred's father. > > One of Fred's grandsons recently stated that Fred had at least 4 or 5 > sisters; Mildred Minnie, Lydia, Ethel, Hattie, and Luttie. > > 1880 Census records for Albemarle County, Virginia, list the household > of "Chs W. Scaustine" with wife "Milly" and daughter, "Minna A.". A > look at the actual census page shows the last name to have indeed been > "Scantling". > > A birth record via Familysearch.org show that a "Lydia Scantling" was > born on May 27, 1881, in Albemarle County, Virginia, to "Chs W. > Scantling" and wife "Milly". Another records shows that an "Ethel > Scantling" was born in 1889 to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly". > So, it's possible that Fred's father was Charles W. Scantling, > however, I have found nothing to confirm this. > > Charles W. Scantling does not appear on the 1900 Census, at least not > that I can find. Per the 1880, 1910, 1920, & 1930 censuses, Charles W. > Scantling was born circa 1860 in Virginia. On those censuses, he was > always listed in Albemarle County, Virginia. I believe he was the son > of William A. Scantling and Elizabeth Clark. > > C. W. Scantling appears on the 1910 Census for Albemarle County, > Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman. > > Charles W. Scantling appears on the 1920 Census for Albemarle County, > Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman. > > Charlie W. Scantling appears on the 1930 Census for Albemarle County, > Virginia, as widowed with sons Jennings and Norman living in the > household. Daughter Nora had married Daniel O'Conell Bishop. > > If Charles was indeed Fred's father, then it appears that 1st wife > "Milly" possibly died and Charles then remarried to Maggie. > Unfortunately, I cannot for the life of me locate Charles W. Scantling > on the 1900 Census to see who is listed in his household, specifically > Frederick William Scantling. > > Frederick William Scantling died in Riverside County, California, on > June 4, 1973, at the age of 86. I have no sources for checking for an > Obituary.. If someone has access to Obits, perhaps Fred's obit from > 1973 can be obtained and maybe his parents are listed? > > Family bible records kept by Fred's wife, Carrie Holland (Sellers) > Scantling, do not list the names of Fred's parents. Darn it! > > Michael Sellers > > --- On Wed, 8/19/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: > > > From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 10:48 PM > > > MICHAEL, > Carol's suggestion on death certificate is probably best. > AND also Carrie's death certificat is here also with no info on CA > death report. WHO are her parents?? > > Other info I see = > > 1900 > > Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in > Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. > > 1910 > Carrie Scantling Fred Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1882 Virginia > Wife,both parents VA Fred Scantling Carrie Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, > OH abt 1887 Virginia Head ,both parents VA John Plaine/BLAINE 23 VA, > BROTHER, BOTH PARENTS VA ca WHO IS THIS??? > > > WW 1 > Frederick Wm Scantling 20 Jan 1887 Caucasian (White) Virginia;United > States of America Augusta, VA born CROZET, VA (Albemarle Co., msh) > MACHINEST FOR STAUNTON MACHINE, STAUNTON, VA WIFE AND ONE CHILD, > PARTIALLY BLIND MED HEIGHT, MED BUILD, BROWN EYES, BLACK HAIR, > PARTIALLY BLIND === 1920 Staunton Ward 1, Staunton (Independent City), > Virginia Fred E Scantling 31 Carrie Scantling 38 > Fred Scantling 2 6/12 > > > 1930 Staunton, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia > Fred W Scantling 44 > Carrie H Scantling 49 > Frederick H Scantling 13 > > == > Security Death Index > Name: Fred Scantling > SSN: 227-34-1322 > Last Residence: 92383 San Jacinto, Riverside, California, United > States of America > Born: 20 Jan 1887 > Died: Jun 1973 > State (Year) SSN issued: Virginia (Before 1951) > > > Carrie H Scantling 2 Jun 1965 Riverside 2 Oct 1880 Virginia DEATH > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Michael Sellers > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:20 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > > I'm trying to identify the parents and any possible siblings of > Frederick William Scantling, husband of Carrie Holland Sellers. I'm > wondering if anyone with access to Ancestry records can lend me a > hand. > > Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, presumably > in Augusta County, Virginia, but it may have been in neighboring > Albemarle County, Virginia. > > Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in > Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. After a brief move to Dayton, > Ohio, in 1910, they had returned "home" to Augusta County, Virginia, > by 1917 when "Frederick Wm.. Scantling" filled out his World War I > Draft Registration card. > > I cannot find Fred on the 1900 Census and have been totally unable to > identify his parents. Fred and Carrie had one son, Frederick Holland > Scantling, who in turn had 4 children. I have spoken with the 4 > grandchildren, and they are just as stumped. The Family Bible kept by > Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling oddly did not list the name of > Fred's parents either. > > I would truly appreciate any assistance and/or record look-ups by > those with access that can unravel this mini-mystery and identify the > names of Frederick William Scantling's parents. > > Thanks! > > Michael Sellers > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Charles W. Scantling, possible/potential father of Frederick William Scantling, was listed as age 70 on the 1930 Census for White Hall District, Albemarle County, Virginia.  Since an Obituary for Charles would be more recent, it might be worth hunting for his obit as well to see if any and all children were listed.   Michael Sellers --- On Tue, 9/8/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 10:50 PM BEVERLY, thanks, I have also for many years. The Local Genealogy societies, usually located at libraries, collect ALL this info. Some on line now. COUNTY/STATE USGENWEB should get you close to an address. Many you write and a very small donation keeps them happy. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beverly Taylor Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 7:43 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I don't know about others, but I have had a ton of luck getting obits by calling the local libraries in the cities that I am finding people died. An occasional $5 charge can get a lot of obits with the death dates known. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In addition to Frederick Scantling there were two others (from the WW I & II draft cards) born in Crozet, Virginia that may be brothers. Harry Randolph Scantling, 15 Oct 1891, Crozet, Virginia Jennings Scantling, born 29 Aug 1896, Crozet, Virginia (His WW II card shows "Hofpmon" as a middle name) I may be going off track here on the Sellers list. Can't find either of them in 1900. Jim ________________________________ From: Michael Sellers <muckham11@yahoo.com> To: sellers@rootsweb..com Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 6:24:42 PM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed Well, that's a really good idea.  Unfortunately, my source(s) for obits is rather non-existent, and I have been unable to find anything for them on the net.  One of these days I'll probably have to pry open my wallet and get an Ancestry subscription, but for now I don't have one.  And, I haven't found a good source for obits elsewhere online.   Michael --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Georgia L. Fletcher <chickfletcher@comcast.net> wrote: From: Georgia L. Fletcher <chickfletcher@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:20 PM Michael, have you tried to find an obit in the home newpaper in Virginia.  I would think their hometown in VA would have an obit and probably mention parents and siblings since this is where they lived for so long before moving to CA. Georgia #1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Sellers" <muckham11@yahoo.com> To: <sellers@rootsweb.com>; "Sherri" <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > Thanks again for the great info. We'll keep swinging at it and hopefully > the names of his parents will fall out of the tree at some point. > > Sherri, thanks much for the .PDF copies of Carrie's obituary and of Fred's > death notice. > Carrie's obit does indeed state that she was born on October 2, 1889, > however, that was in error. She was born on that date in 1880, not 1889. > Plus, it's kind of difficult to be 84 years old in 1965 with a birth year > of 1889. > > I have yet to locate Frederick on any record prior to the 1910 Census, > although I do know that Fred and Carrie were married on the homestead of > her father in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia, on February 10, 1909. > I guess we're down to a birth record or their marriage record being > located as opportunities to find out Fred's parents. > > Michael > > --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > From: Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> > Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > To: "'Michael Sellers'" <muckham11@yahoo.com>, sellers@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 8:01 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ve received the obits of Frederick and Carrie. Unfortunately, they don’t > shed a lot of light. > > From the Hemet News June 6, 1965, p. 8 > > Services Held in San Jacinto for Carrie Scantling > > Services were held Saturday morning in Harford Funeral Home in San Jacinto > for Mrs. Carrie Haolland Scantling, 84, who passed away Wednesday in a > Riverside hospital.. The Rev. William Thomas officiated at the rites, and > burial was in San Jacinto Valley Cemetery. > > Churchville, Virginia was Mrs. Scantling’s birthplace on October 2, 1889. > She had been a resident of this area for 12 years, living at 265 East > Third street, San Jacinto. > > She is survived by her widower, Frederick W. Scantling; a son, Frederick > II, of Los Angeles, and three grandchildren. > > From the Hemet News, 5 June 1973, p. 3: > > Services Pending > Funeral services are pending at the Harford Funeral Home for Frederick W. > Scantling, 87, who died Monday at Hemet Community Hospital. > > Sorry these are not more help. They did send me both of these as pdf > files, so if you want copies, just let me know. > > Sherri > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Michael Sellers > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:45 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > Sherri, > > That's awesome and much appreciated. I'll look forward to seeing if it can > be located. > > --- On Sun, 8/23/09, Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > From: Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 5:39 AM > > > I've requested a copy of his obituary through RAOGK. Hopefully it will > shed > some light on his family - parents and siblings. Will send when I receive. > > Sherri > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of marie sellers hollinger > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 10:52 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > I was afraid of that. > You have already done pretty complete job. > Riverside, CA usgenweb, ask for help, if they lived there very long. > I didn't check city directories and my old newspapers aren't working > tonite, but, didn't see on a fast search and didn't see on obit indexes > that I have. > > Kids of C.W. = followed up in census? I am sure you have. You do good > work. > > He isn't a CW age, but Scantlings in CW? > > Best wishes, marie, iowa > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Michael Sellers > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:46 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > > The California Death Certificate abstract for Frederick William > Scantling is blank concerning the names of his parents. > > Michael > > --- On Sat, 8/22/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: > > > From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 9:13 PM > > > I believe I would try the death certificate, as suggested earlier. > Thanks, marie, iowa > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Michael Sellers > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:06 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > > First off, thanks for the efforts and help. It is much appreciated. > > Marie & all, > Carrie Holland Sellers was the 14th of 14 children born to Jerome Howard > Brown Sellers (Nov. 14, 1825 - Feb. 27, 1910) and Margaret Rebecca Bell > (Nov. 2, 1832 - June 17, 1907). Carrie was born in Churchville, Augusta > County, Virginia, on October 2, 1880, and died in Riverside County, > California, on June 2, 1965. > > Carrie married Frederick William Scantling on February 10, 1909, at the > home of her parents in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. I do not > know where the Marriage License was obtained. However, given that they > were married in Augusta County, it's more than likely that the License > was obtained there. Perhaps there is a Marriage Record for them in > Augusta County and possibly it was name/list Fred's parents? > > Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, in Albemarle > County, Virginia. His World War I Draft Registration card listed the > specific town in Albemarle in which he was born as "Crozet" (pronounced > Kro-zay). There were two Scantling families in that area into the > 1930s. One family, that of Charles W. Scantling, possibly could've been > Fred's father. > > One of Fred's grandsons recently stated that Fred had at least 4 or > 5 sisters; Mildred Minnie, Lydia, Ethel, Hattie, and Luttie. > > 1880 Census records for Albemarle County, Virginia, list the household > of "Chs W. Scaustine" with wife "Milly" and daughter, "Minna A.". A > look at the actual census page shows the last name to have indeed been > "Scantling". > > A birth record via Familysearch.org show that a "Lydia Scantling" was > born on May 27, 1881, in Albemarle County, Virginia, to "Chs W. > Scantling" and wife "Milly". Another records shows that an "Ethel > Scantling" was born in 1889 to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly". So, > it's possible that Fred's father was Charles W. Scantling, however, I > have found nothing to confirm this. > > Charles W. Scantling does not appear on the 1900 Census, at least not > that I can find. Per the 1880, 1910, 1920, & 1930 censuses, Charles W. > Scantling was born circa 1860 in Virginia. On those censuses, he was > always listed in Albemarle County, Virginia. I believe he was the son > of William A. Scantling and Elizabeth Clark. > > C. W. Scantling appears on the 1910 Census for Albemarle County, > Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman. > > Charles W. Scantling appears on the 1920 Census for Albemarle County, > Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman. > > Charlie W. Scantling appears on the 1930 Census for Albemarle County, > Virginia, as widowed with sons Jennings and Norman living in the > household. Daughter Nora had married Daniel O'Conell Bishop. > > If Charles was indeed Fred's father, then it appears that 1st wife > "Milly" possibly died and Charles then remarried to Maggie. > Unfortunately, I cannot for the life of me locate Charles W. Scantling > on the 1900 Census to see who is listed in his household, specifically > Frederick William Scantling. > > Frederick William Scantling died in Riverside County, California, on > June 4, 1973, at the age of 86. I have no sources for checking for an > Obituary.. If someone has access to Obits, perhaps Fred's obit from > 1973 can be obtained and maybe his parents are listed? > > Family bible records kept by Fred's wife, Carrie Holland (Sellers) > Scantling, do not list the names of Fred's parents. Darn it! > > Michael Sellers > > --- On Wed, 8/19/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: > > > From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 10:48 PM > > > MICHAEL, > Carol's suggestion on death certificate is probably best. > AND also Carrie's death certificat is here also with no info on CA death > report. WHO are her parents?? > > Other info I see = > > 1900 > > Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in > Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. > > 1910 > Carrie Scantling Fred Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1882 Virginia > Wife,both parents VA > Fred Scantling Carrie Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1887 Virginia > Head ,both parents VA John Plaine/BLAINE 23 VA, BROTHER, BOTH PARENTS VA > ca WHO IS THIS??? > > > WW 1 > Frederick Wm Scantling 20 Jan 1887 Caucasian (White) Virginia;United > States of America Augusta, VA born CROZET, VA (Albemarle Co., msh) > MACHINEST FOR STAUNTON MACHINE, STAUNTON, VA WIFE AND ONE CHILD, > PARTIALLY BLIND MED HEIGHT, MED BUILD, BROWN EYES, BLACK HAIR, PARTIALLY > BLIND === 1920 Staunton Ward 1, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia > Fred E Scantling 31 > Carrie Scantling 38 > Fred Scantling 2 6/12 > > > 1930 Staunton, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia > Fred W Scantling 44 > Carrie H Scantling 49 > Frederick H Scantling 13 > > == > Security Death Index > Name: Fred Scantling > SSN: 227-34-1322 > Last Residence: 92383 San Jacinto, Riverside, California, United > States of America > Born: 20 Jan 1887 > Died: Jun 1973 > State (Year) SSN issued: Virginia (Before 1951) > > > Carrie H Scantling 2 Jun 1965 Riverside 2 Oct 1880 Virginia DEATH > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Michael Sellers > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:20 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > > I'm trying to identify the parents and any possible siblings of > Frederick William Scantling, husband of Carrie Holland Sellers. I'm > wondering if anyone with access to Ancestry records can lend me a hand.. > > Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, presumably in > Augusta County, Virginia, but it may have been in neighboring Albemarle > County, Virginia. > > Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in > Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. After a brief move to Dayton, > Ohio, in 1910, they had returned "home" to Augusta County, Virginia, by > 1917 when "Frederick Wm.. Scantling" filled out his World War I Draft > Registration card. > > I cannot find Fred on the 1900 Census and have been totally unable to > identify his parents. Fred and Carrie had one son, Frederick Holland > Scantling, who in turn had 4 children. I have spoken with the 4 > grandchildren, and they are just as stumped. The Family Bible kept by > Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling oddly did not list the name of Fred's > parents either. > > I would truly appreciate any assistance and/or record look-ups by those > with access that can unravel this mini-mystery and identify the names of > Frederick William Scantling's parents. > > Thanks! > > Michael Sellers > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Michael, have you tried to find an obit in the home newpaper in Virginia. I would think their hometown in VA would have an obit and probably mention parents and siblings since this is where they lived for so long before moving to CA. Georgia #1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Sellers" <muckham11@yahoo.com> To: <sellers@rootsweb.com>; "Sherri" <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > Thanks again for the great info. We'll keep swinging at it and hopefully > the names of his parents will fall out of the tree at some point. > > Sherri, thanks much for the .PDF copies of Carrie's obituary and of Fred's > death notice. > Carrie's obit does indeed state that she was born on October 2, 1889, > however, that was in error. She was born on that date in 1880, not 1889. > Plus, it's kind of difficult to be 84 years old in 1965 with a birth year > of 1889. > > I have yet to locate Frederick on any record prior to the 1910 Census, > although I do know that Fred and Carrie were married on the homestead of > her father in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia, on February 10, 1909. > I guess we're down to a birth record or their marriage record being > located as opportunities to find out Fred's parents. > > Michael > > --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > From: Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> > Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > To: "'Michael Sellers'" <muckham11@yahoo.com>, sellers@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 8:01 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ve received the obits of Frederick and Carrie. Unfortunately, they don’t > shed a lot of light. > > From the Hemet News June 6, 1965, p. 8 > > Services Held in San Jacinto for Carrie Scantling > > Services were held Saturday morning in Harford Funeral Home in San Jacinto > for Mrs. Carrie Haolland Scantling, 84, who passed away Wednesday in a > Riverside hospital. The Rev. William Thomas officiated at the rites, and > burial was in San Jacinto Valley Cemetery. > > Churchville, Virginia was Mrs. Scantling’s birthplace on October 2, 1889. > She had been a resident of this area for 12 years, living at 265 East > Third street, San Jacinto. > > She is survived by her widower, Frederick W. Scantling; a son, Frederick > II, of Los Angeles, and three grandchildren. > > From the Hemet News, 5 June 1973, p. 3: > > Services Pending > Funeral services are pending at the Harford Funeral Home for Frederick W. > Scantling, 87, who died Monday at Hemet Community Hospital. > > Sorry these are not more help. They did send me both of these as pdf > files, so if you want copies, just let me know. > > Sherri > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Michael Sellers > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:45 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > Sherri, > > That's awesome and much appreciated. I'll look forward to seeing if it can > be located. > > --- On Sun, 8/23/09, Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > From: Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 5:39 AM > > > I've requested a copy of his obituary through RAOGK. Hopefully it will > shed > some light on his family - parents and siblings. Will send when I receive. > > Sherri > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of marie sellers hollinger > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 10:52 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > I was afraid of that. > You have already done pretty complete job. > Riverside, CA usgenweb, ask for help, if they lived there very long. > I didn't check city directories and my old newspapers aren't working > tonite, but, didn't see on a fast search and didn't see on obit indexes > that I have. > > Kids of C.W. = followed up in census? I am sure you have. You do good > work. > > He isn't a CW age, but Scantlings in CW? > > Best wishes, marie, iowa > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Michael Sellers > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:46 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > > The California Death Certificate abstract for Frederick William > Scantling is blank concerning the names of his parents. > > Michael > > --- On Sat, 8/22/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: > > > From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 9:13 PM > > > I believe I would try the death certificate, as suggested earlier. > Thanks, marie, iowa > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Michael Sellers > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:06 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > > First off, thanks for the efforts and help. It is much appreciated. > > Marie & all, > Carrie Holland Sellers was the 14th of 14 children born to Jerome Howard > Brown Sellers (Nov. 14, 1825 - Feb. 27, 1910) and Margaret Rebecca Bell > (Nov. 2, 1832 - June 17, 1907). Carrie was born in Churchville, Augusta > County, Virginia, on October 2, 1880, and died in Riverside County, > California, on June 2, 1965. > > Carrie married Frederick William Scantling on February 10, 1909, at the > home of her parents in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. I do not > know where the Marriage License was obtained. However, given that they > were married in Augusta County, it's more than likely that the License > was obtained there. Perhaps there is a Marriage Record for them in > Augusta County and possibly it was name/list Fred's parents? > > Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, in Albemarle > County, Virginia. His World War I Draft Registration card listed the > specific town in Albemarle in which he was born as "Crozet" (pronounced > Kro-zay). There were two Scantling families in that area into the > 1930s. One family, that of Charles W. Scantling, possibly could've been > Fred's father. > > One of Fred's grandsons recently stated that Fred had at least 4 or > 5 sisters; Mildred Minnie, Lydia, Ethel, Hattie, and Luttie. > > 1880 Census records for Albemarle County, Virginia, list the household > of "Chs W. Scaustine" with wife "Milly" and daughter, "Minna A.". A > look at the actual census page shows the last name to have indeed been > "Scantling". > > A birth record via Familysearch.org show that a "Lydia Scantling" was > born on May 27, 1881, in Albemarle County, Virginia, to "Chs W. > Scantling" and wife "Milly". Another records shows that an "Ethel > Scantling" was born in 1889 to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly". So, > it's possible that Fred's father was Charles W. Scantling, however, I > have found nothing to confirm this. > > Charles W. Scantling does not appear on the 1900 Census, at least not > that I can find. Per the 1880, 1910, 1920, & 1930 censuses, Charles W. > Scantling was born circa 1860 in Virginia. On those censuses, he was > always listed in Albemarle County, Virginia. I believe he was the son > of William A. Scantling and Elizabeth Clark. > > C. W. Scantling appears on the 1910 Census for Albemarle County, > Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman. > > Charles W. Scantling appears on the 1920 Census for Albemarle County, > Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman. > > Charlie W. Scantling appears on the 1930 Census for Albemarle County, > Virginia, as widowed with sons Jennings and Norman living in the > household. Daughter Nora had married Daniel O'Conell Bishop. > > If Charles was indeed Fred's father, then it appears that 1st wife > "Milly" possibly died and Charles then remarried to Maggie. > Unfortunately, I cannot for the life of me locate Charles W. Scantling > on the 1900 Census to see who is listed in his household, specifically > Frederick William Scantling. > > Frederick William Scantling died in Riverside County, California, on > June 4, 1973, at the age of 86. I have no sources for checking for an > Obituary.. If someone has access to Obits, perhaps Fred's obit from > 1973 can be obtained and maybe his parents are listed? > > Family bible records kept by Fred's wife, Carrie Holland (Sellers) > Scantling, do not list the names of Fred's parents. Darn it! > > Michael Sellers > > --- On Wed, 8/19/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: > > > From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 10:48 PM > > > MICHAEL, > Carol's suggestion on death certificate is probably best. > AND also Carrie's death certificat is here also with no info on CA death > report. WHO are her parents?? > > Other info I see = > > 1900 > > Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in > Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. > > 1910 > Carrie Scantling Fred Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1882 Virginia > Wife,both parents VA > Fred Scantling Carrie Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1887 Virginia > Head ,both parents VA John Plaine/BLAINE 23 VA, BROTHER, BOTH PARENTS VA > ca WHO IS THIS??? > > > WW 1 > Frederick Wm Scantling 20 Jan 1887 Caucasian (White) Virginia;United > States of America Augusta, VA born CROZET, VA (Albemarle Co., msh) > MACHINEST FOR STAUNTON MACHINE, STAUNTON, VA WIFE AND ONE CHILD, > PARTIALLY BLIND MED HEIGHT, MED BUILD, BROWN EYES, BLACK HAIR, PARTIALLY > BLIND === 1920 Staunton Ward 1, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia > Fred E Scantling 31 > Carrie Scantling 38 > Fred Scantling 2 6/12 > > > 1930 Staunton, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia > Fred W Scantling 44 > Carrie H Scantling 49 > Frederick H Scantling 13 > > == > Security Death Index > Name: Fred Scantling > SSN: 227-34-1322 > Last Residence: 92383 San Jacinto, Riverside, California, United > States of America > Born: 20 Jan 1887 > Died: Jun 1973 > State (Year) SSN issued: Virginia (Before 1951) > > > Carrie H Scantling 2 Jun 1965 Riverside 2 Oct 1880 Virginia DEATH > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Michael Sellers > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:20 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > > I'm trying to identify the parents and any possible siblings of > Frederick William Scantling, husband of Carrie Holland Sellers. I'm > wondering if anyone with access to Ancestry records can lend me a hand. > > Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, presumably in > Augusta County, Virginia, but it may have been in neighboring Albemarle > County, Virginia. > > Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in > Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. After a brief move to Dayton, > Ohio, in 1910, they had returned "home" to Augusta County, Virginia, by > 1917 when "Frederick Wm.. Scantling" filled out his World War I Draft > Registration card. > > I cannot find Fred on the 1900 Census and have been totally unable to > identify his parents. Fred and Carrie had one son, Frederick Holland > Scantling, who in turn had 4 children. I have spoken with the 4 > grandchildren, and they are just as stumped. The Family Bible kept by > Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling oddly did not list the name of Fred's > parents either. > > I would truly appreciate any assistance and/or record look-ups by those > with access that can unravel this mini-mystery and identify the names of > Frederick William Scantling's parents. > > Thanks! > > Michael Sellers > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know about others, but I have had a ton of luck getting obits by calling the local libraries in the cities that I am finding people died. An occasional $5 charge can get a lot of obits with the death dates known.

Well, that's a really good idea.  Unfortunately, my source(s) for obits is rather non-existent, and I have been unable to find anything for them on the net.  One of these days I'll probably have to pry open my wallet and get an Ancestry subscription, but for now I don't have one.  And, I haven't found a good source for obits elsewhere online.   Michael --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Georgia L. Fletcher <chickfletcher@comcast.net> wrote: From: Georgia L. Fletcher <chickfletcher@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:20 PM Michael, have you tried to find an obit in the home newpaper in Virginia.  I would think their hometown in VA would have an obit and probably mention parents and siblings since this is where they lived for so long before moving to CA. Georgia #1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Sellers" <muckham11@yahoo.com> To: <sellers@rootsweb.com>; "Sherri" <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > Thanks again for the great info. We'll keep swinging at it and hopefully > the names of his parents will fall out of the tree at some point. > > Sherri, thanks much for the .PDF copies of Carrie's obituary and of Fred's > death notice. > Carrie's obit does indeed state that she was born on October 2, 1889, > however, that was in error. She was born on that date in 1880, not 1889. > Plus, it's kind of difficult to be 84 years old in 1965 with a birth year > of 1889. > > I have yet to locate Frederick on any record prior to the 1910 Census, > although I do know that Fred and Carrie were married on the homestead of > her father in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia, on February 10, 1909. > I guess we're down to a birth record or their marriage record being > located as opportunities to find out Fred's parents. > > Michael > > --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > From: Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> > Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > To: "'Michael Sellers'" <muckham11@yahoo.com>, sellers@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 8:01 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ve received the obits of Frederick and Carrie. Unfortunately, they don’t > shed a lot of light. > > From the Hemet News June 6, 1965, p. 8 > > Services Held in San Jacinto for Carrie Scantling > > Services were held Saturday morning in Harford Funeral Home in San Jacinto > for Mrs. Carrie Haolland Scantling, 84, who passed away Wednesday in a > Riverside hospital. The Rev. William Thomas officiated at the rites, and > burial was in San Jacinto Valley Cemetery. > > Churchville, Virginia was Mrs. Scantling’s birthplace on October 2, 1889. > She had been a resident of this area for 12 years, living at 265 East > Third street, San Jacinto. > > She is survived by her widower, Frederick W. Scantling; a son, Frederick > II, of Los Angeles, and three grandchildren. > > From the Hemet News, 5 June 1973, p. 3: > > Services Pending > Funeral services are pending at the Harford Funeral Home for Frederick W. > Scantling, 87, who died Monday at Hemet Community Hospital. > > Sorry these are not more help. They did send me both of these as pdf > files, so if you want copies, just let me know. > > Sherri > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Michael Sellers > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:45 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > Sherri, > > That's awesome and much appreciated. I'll look forward to seeing if it can > be located. > > --- On Sun, 8/23/09, Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > From: Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 5:39 AM > > > I've requested a copy of his obituary through RAOGK. Hopefully it will > shed > some light on his family - parents and siblings. Will send when I receive. > > Sherri > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of marie sellers hollinger > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 10:52 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > I was afraid of that. > You have already done pretty complete job. > Riverside, CA usgenweb, ask for help, if they lived there very long. > I didn't check city directories and my old newspapers aren't working > tonite, but, didn't see on a fast search and didn't see on obit indexes > that I have. > > Kids of C.W. = followed up in census? I am sure you have. You do good > work. > > He isn't a CW age, but Scantlings in CW? > > Best wishes, marie, iowa > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Michael Sellers > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:46 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > > The California Death Certificate abstract for Frederick William > Scantling is blank concerning the names of his parents. > > Michael > > --- On Sat, 8/22/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: > > > From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 9:13 PM > > > I believe I would try the death certificate, as suggested earlier. > Thanks, marie, iowa > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Michael Sellers > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:06 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > > First off, thanks for the efforts and help. It is much appreciated. > > Marie & all, > Carrie Holland Sellers was the 14th of 14 children born to Jerome Howard > Brown Sellers (Nov. 14, 1825 - Feb. 27, 1910) and Margaret Rebecca Bell > (Nov. 2, 1832 - June 17, 1907). Carrie was born in Churchville, Augusta > County, Virginia, on October 2, 1880, and died in Riverside County, > California, on June 2, 1965. > > Carrie married Frederick William Scantling on February 10, 1909, at the > home of her parents in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. I do not > know where the Marriage License was obtained. However, given that they > were married in Augusta County, it's more than likely that the License > was obtained there. Perhaps there is a Marriage Record for them in > Augusta County and possibly it was name/list Fred's parents? > > Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, in Albemarle > County, Virginia. His World War I Draft Registration card listed the > specific town in Albemarle in which he was born as "Crozet" (pronounced > Kro-zay). There were two Scantling families in that area into the > 1930s. One family, that of Charles W. Scantling, possibly could've been > Fred's father. > > One of Fred's grandsons recently stated that Fred had at least 4 or > 5 sisters; Mildred Minnie, Lydia, Ethel, Hattie, and Luttie. > > 1880 Census records for Albemarle County, Virginia, list the household > of "Chs W. Scaustine" with wife "Milly" and daughter, "Minna A.". A > look at the actual census page shows the last name to have indeed been > "Scantling". > > A birth record via Familysearch.org show that a "Lydia Scantling" was > born on May 27, 1881, in Albemarle County, Virginia, to "Chs W. > Scantling" and wife "Milly". Another records shows that an "Ethel > Scantling" was born in 1889 to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly". So, > it's possible that Fred's father was Charles W. Scantling, however, I > have found nothing to confirm this. > > Charles W. Scantling does not appear on the 1900 Census, at least not > that I can find. Per the 1880, 1910, 1920, & 1930 censuses, Charles W. > Scantling was born circa 1860 in Virginia. On those censuses, he was > always listed in Albemarle County, Virginia. I believe he was the son > of William A. Scantling and Elizabeth Clark. > > C. W. Scantling appears on the 1910 Census for Albemarle County, > Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman. > > Charles W. Scantling appears on the 1920 Census for Albemarle County, > Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman. > > Charlie W. Scantling appears on the 1930 Census for Albemarle County, > Virginia, as widowed with sons Jennings and Norman living in the > household. Daughter Nora had married Daniel O'Conell Bishop. > > If Charles was indeed Fred's father, then it appears that 1st wife > "Milly" possibly died and Charles then remarried to Maggie. > Unfortunately, I cannot for the life of me locate Charles W. Scantling > on the 1900 Census to see who is listed in his household, specifically > Frederick William Scantling. > > Frederick William Scantling died in Riverside County, California, on > June 4, 1973, at the age of 86. I have no sources for checking for an > Obituary.. If someone has access to Obits, perhaps Fred's obit from > 1973 can be obtained and maybe his parents are listed? > > Family bible records kept by Fred's wife, Carrie Holland (Sellers) > Scantling, do not list the names of Fred's parents. Darn it! > > Michael Sellers > > --- On Wed, 8/19/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: > > > From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 10:48 PM > > > MICHAEL, > Carol's suggestion on death certificate is probably best. > AND also Carrie's death certificat is here also with no info on CA death > report. WHO are her parents?? > > Other info I see = > > 1900 > > Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in > Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. > > 1910 > Carrie Scantling Fred Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1882 Virginia > Wife,both parents VA > Fred Scantling Carrie Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1887 Virginia > Head ,both parents VA John Plaine/BLAINE 23 VA, BROTHER, BOTH PARENTS VA > ca WHO IS THIS??? > > > WW 1 > Frederick Wm Scantling 20 Jan 1887 Caucasian (White) Virginia;United > States of America Augusta, VA born CROZET, VA (Albemarle Co., msh) > MACHINEST FOR STAUNTON MACHINE, STAUNTON, VA WIFE AND ONE CHILD, > PARTIALLY BLIND MED HEIGHT, MED BUILD, BROWN EYES, BLACK HAIR, PARTIALLY > BLIND === 1920 Staunton Ward 1, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia > Fred E Scantling 31 > Carrie Scantling 38 > Fred Scantling 2 6/12 > > > 1930 Staunton, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia > Fred W Scantling 44 > Carrie H Scantling 49 > Frederick H Scantling 13 > > == > Security Death Index > Name: Fred Scantling > SSN: 227-34-1322 > Last Residence: 92383 San Jacinto, Riverside, California, United > States of America > Born: 20 Jan 1887 > Died: Jun 1973 > State (Year) SSN issued: Virginia (Before 1951) > > > Carrie H Scantling 2 Jun 1965 Riverside 2 Oct 1880 Virginia DEATH > > -----Original Message----- > From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Michael Sellers > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:20 PM > To: sellers@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed > > > I'm trying to identify the parents and any possible siblings of > Frederick William Scantling, husband of Carrie Holland Sellers. I'm > wondering if anyone with access to Ancestry records can lend me a hand. > > Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, presumably in > Augusta County, Virginia, but it may have been in neighboring Albemarle > County, Virginia. > > Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in > Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. After a brief move to Dayton, > Ohio, in 1910, they had returned "home" to Augusta County, Virginia, by > 1917 when "Frederick Wm.. Scantling" filled out his World War I Draft > Registration card. > > I cannot find Fred on the 1900 Census and have been totally unable to > identify his parents. Fred and Carrie had one son, Frederick Holland > Scantling, who in turn had 4 children. I have spoken with the 4 > grandchildren, and they are just as stumped. The Family Bible kept by > Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling oddly did not list the name of Fred's > parents either. > > I would truly appreciate any assistance and/or record look-ups by those > with access that can unravel this mini-mystery and identify the names of > Frederick William Scantling's parents. > > Thanks! > > Michael Sellers > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jim,   Funny you should post this with such excellent timing.  I had pieced together some info and came to the conclusion that Charles W. Scantling had married Mildred A. Ladd about 1879.  My current working theory is that Charles W. Scantling and Mildred A. Ladd could indeed be the parents of Frederick William Scantling.  I just cannot find the smoking gun that either shows this or disproves this with any certainty.   One of Frederick Scantling's grandsons told me that Frederick had at least 4 sisters.  Of the four, two were named Lydia and Florence Ethel.  LDS records show that a "Lydia Scantling" was born in Albemarle County, Virginia, on May 27, 1881, to "Chs. W. and M. Scantling".  LDS records also show that an "Ethel Scantling" was born in Albemarle County, Virginia, to "Chs. & Milly Scantling" in 1889.   Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, in Albemarle County, Virginia.  I believe that Charles W. Scantling and Mildred A. Ladd may have been his parents.  I have found evidence that Mildred A. (Ladd) Scantling died on or about March 5, 1891, and Charles subsequently remarried to Margaret "Maggie" Graves in 1894.   However, I cannot find Charles & family on the subsequent 1900 Census, and I cannot find any of his supposed children on that census either.    I think the marriage info is excellent and we're on the right track.  Just need the one sole piece of info definitively tying Frederick William Scantling as being a son of Charles W. Scantling and wife Mildred A. Ladd ... or not.   Michael --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Jim Sellars <jimsellars@ymail.com> wrote: From: Jim Sellars <jimsellars@ymail.com> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 2:19 PM Not sure you have this, did some digging on Ancestry.com Charles W. Scantling married Mildred A. Ladd, 10 Feb 1879 in Albemarle Co., VA C. W. Scantling married M. M. Graves, 12 Aug, 1894 in Albemarle Co., VA Jim ________________________________ From: Michael Sellers <muckham11@yahoo.com> To: sellers@rootsweb.com; Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink..net> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 11:10:54 AM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed Thanks again for the great info.  We'll keep swinging at it and hopefully the names of his parents will fall out of the tree at some point.   Sherri, thanks much for the .PDF copies of Carrie's obituary and of Fred's death notice. Carrie's obit does indeed state that she was born on October 2, 1889, however, that was in error.  She was born on that date in 1880, not 1889.  Plus, it's kind of difficult to be 84 years old in 1965 with a birth year of 1889.   I have yet to locate Frederick on any record prior to the 1910 Census, although I do know that Fred and Carrie were married on the homestead of her father in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia, on February 10, 1909.  I guess we're down to a birth record or their marriage record being located as opportunities to find out Fred's parents.   Michael --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> wrote: From: Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: "'Michael Sellers'" <muckham11@yahoo.com>, sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 8:01 PM I’ve received the obits of Frederick and Carrie.  Unfortunately, they don’t shed a lot of light.    >From the Hemet News June 6, 1965, p. 8   Services Held in San Jacinto for Carrie Scantling   Services were held Saturday morning in Harford Funeral Home in San Jacinto for Mrs. Carrie Haolland Scantling, 84, who passed away Wednesday in a Riverside hospital.  The Rev. William Thomas officiated at the rites, and burial was in San Jacinto Valley Cemetery.    Churchville, Virginia was Mrs. Scantling’s birthplace on October 2, 1889.  She had been a resident of this area for 12 years, living at 265 East Third street, San Jacinto.   She is survived by her widower, Frederick W. Scantling; a son, Frederick II, of Los Angeles, and three grandchildren.   >From the Hemet News, 5 June 1973, p. 3:   Services Pending Funeral services are pending at the Harford Funeral Home for Frederick W. Scantling, 87, who died Monday at Hemet Community Hospital.   Sorry these are not more help.  They did send me both of these as pdf files, so if you want copies, just let me know. Sherri -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:45 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed Sherri,   That's awesome and much appreciated.  I'll look forward to seeing if it can be located. --- On Sun, 8/23/09, Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> wrote: From: Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 5:39 AM I've requested a copy of his obituary through RAOGK.  Hopefully it will shed some light on his family - parents and siblings.  Will send when I receive. Sherri -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of marie sellers hollinger Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 10:52 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I was afraid of that. You have already done pretty complete job. Riverside, CA usgenweb, ask for help, if they lived there very long. I didn't check city directories and my old newspapers aren't working tonite, but, didn't see on a fast search and didn't see on obit indexes that I have. Kids of C.W. = followed up in census? I am sure you have. You do good work. He isn't a CW age, but Scantlings in CW? Best wishes, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb..com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:46 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed The California Death Certificate abstract for Frederick William Scantling is blank concerning the names of his parents.    Michael  --- On Sat, 8/22/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 9:13 PM I believe I would try the death certificate, as suggested earlier. Thanks, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:06 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed First off, thanks for the efforts and help.  It is much appreciated.   Marie & all, Carrie Holland Sellers was the 14th of 14 children born to Jerome Howard Brown Sellers (Nov. 14, 1825 - Feb. 27, 1910) and Margaret Rebecca Bell (Nov. 2, 1832 - June 17, 1907). Carrie was born in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia, on October 2, 1880, and died in Riverside County, California, on June 2, 1965.   Carrie married Frederick William Scantling on February 10, 1909, at the home of her parents in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia.  I do not know where the Marriage License was obtained.  However, given that they were married in Augusta County, it's more than likely that the License was obtained there.  Perhaps there is a Marriage Record for them in Augusta County and possibly it was name/list Fred's parents?   Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, in Albemarle County, Virginia.  His World War I Draft Registration card listed the specific town in Albemarle in which he was born as "Crozet" (pronounced Kro-zay).  There were two Scantling families in that area into the 1930s.  One family, that of Charles W. Scantling, possibly could've been Fred's father.   One of Fred's grandsons recently stated that Fred had at least 4 or 5 sisters; Mildred Minnie, Lydia, Ethel, Hattie, and Luttie.   1880 Census records for Albemarle County, Virginia, list the household of "Chs W. Scaustine" with wife "Milly" and daughter, "Minna A.".  A look at the actual census page shows the last name to have indeed been "Scantling".   A birth record via Familysearch.org show that a "Lydia Scantling" was born on May 27, 1881, in Albemarle County, Virginia, to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly".  Another records shows that an "Ethel Scantling" was born in 1889 to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly".  So, it's possible that Fred's father was Charles W. Scantling, however, I have found nothing to confirm this.   Charles W. Scantling does not appear on the 1900 Census, at least not that I can find.  Per the 1880, 1910, 1920, & 1930 censuses, Charles W. Scantling was born circa 1860 in Virginia.  On those censuses, he was always listed in Albemarle County, Virginia.  I believe he was the son of William A. Scantling and Elizabeth Clark.   C. W.. Scantling appears on the 1910 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman.   Charles W. Scantling appears on the 1920 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman.   Charlie W. Scantling appears on the 1930 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, as widowed with sons Jennings and Norman living in the household.  Daughter Nora had married Daniel O'Conell Bishop.   If Charles was indeed Fred's father, then it appears that 1st wife "Milly" possibly died and Charles then remarried to Maggie.  Unfortunately, I cannot for the life of me locate Charles W. Scantling on the 1900 Census to see who is listed in his household, specifically Frederick William Scantling..   Frederick William Scantling died in Riverside County, California, on June 4, 1973, at the age of 86.  I have no sources for checking for an Obituary..  If someone has access to Obits, perhaps Fred's obit from 1973 can be obtained and maybe his parents are listed?   Family bible records kept by Fred's wife, Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling, do not list the names of Fred's parents.  Darn it!   Michael Sellers --- On Wed, 8/19/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 10:48 PM MICHAEL, Carol's suggestion on death certificate is probably best. AND also Carrie's death certificat is here also with no info on CA death report. WHO are her parents?? Other info I see = 1900 Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. 1910 Carrie Scantling Fred Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1882 Virginia Wife,both parents VA  Fred Scantling Carrie Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1887 Virginia Head ,both parents VA John Plaine/BLAINE 23 VA, BROTHER, BOTH PARENTS VA ca WHO IS THIS??? WW 1 Frederick Wm Scantling 20 Jan 1887 Caucasian (White) Virginia;United States of America Augusta, VA born CROZET, VA (Albemarle Co., msh) MACHINEST FOR STAUNTON MACHINE, STAUNTON, VA WIFE AND ONE CHILD, PARTIALLY BLIND MED HEIGHT, MED BUILD, BROWN EYES, BLACK HAIR, PARTIALLY BLIND === 1920 Staunton Ward 1, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia Fred E Scantling 31 Carrie Scantling 38 Fred Scantling 2 6/12 1930 Staunton, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia Fred W Scantling 44 Carrie H Scantling 49 Frederick H Scantling 13 == Security Death Index Name:    Fred Scantling    SSN:    227-34-1322     Last Residence:    92383 San Jacinto, Riverside, California, United States of America    Born:    20 Jan 1887    Died:    Jun 1973    State (Year) SSN issued:    Virginia (Before 1951)            Carrie H Scantling 2 Jun 1965 Riverside 2 Oct 1880 Virginia  DEATH -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:20 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I'm trying to identify the parents and any possible siblings of Frederick William Scantling, husband of Carrie Holland Sellers.  I'm wondering if anyone with access to Ancestry records can lend me a hand.   Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, presumably in Augusta County, Virginia, but it may have been in neighboring Albemarle County, Virginia.   Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia.  After a brief move to Dayton, Ohio, in 1910, they had returned "home" to Augusta County, Virginia, by 1917 when "Frederick Wm.. Scantling" filled out his World War I Draft Registration card.   I cannot find Fred on the 1900 Census and have been totally unable to identify his parents.  Fred and Carrie had one son, Frederick Holland Scantling, who in turn had 4 children.  I have spoken with the 4 grandchildren, and they are just as stumped.  The Family Bible kept by Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling oddly did not list the name of Fred's parents either.    I would truly appreciate any assistance and/or record look-ups by those with access that can unravel this mini-mystery and identify the names of Frederick William Scantling's parents.   Thanks!   Michael Sellers           ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message           ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Not sure you have this, did some digging on Ancestry.com Charles W. Scantling married Mildred A. Ladd, 10 Feb 1879 in Albemarle Co., VA C. W. Scantling married M. M. Graves, 12 Aug, 1894 in Albemarle Co., VA Jim ________________________________ From: Michael Sellers <muckham11@yahoo.com> To: sellers@rootsweb.com; Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink..net> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 11:10:54 AM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed Thanks again for the great info.  We'll keep swinging at it and hopefully the names of his parents will fall out of the tree at some point.   Sherri, thanks much for the .PDF copies of Carrie's obituary and of Fred's death notice. Carrie's obit does indeed state that she was born on October 2, 1889, however, that was in error.  She was born on that date in 1880, not 1889.  Plus, it's kind of difficult to be 84 years old in 1965 with a birth year of 1889.   I have yet to locate Frederick on any record prior to the 1910 Census, although I do know that Fred and Carrie were married on the homestead of her father in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia, on February 10, 1909.  I guess we're down to a birth record or their marriage record being located as opportunities to find out Fred's parents.   Michael --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> wrote: From: Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: "'Michael Sellers'" <muckham11@yahoo.com>, sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 8:01 PM I’ve received the obits of Frederick and Carrie.  Unfortunately, they don’t shed a lot of light.    From the Hemet News June 6, 1965, p. 8   Services Held in San Jacinto for Carrie Scantling   Services were held Saturday morning in Harford Funeral Home in San Jacinto for Mrs. Carrie Haolland Scantling, 84, who passed away Wednesday in a Riverside hospital.  The Rev. William Thomas officiated at the rites, and burial was in San Jacinto Valley Cemetery.    Churchville, Virginia was Mrs. Scantling’s birthplace on October 2, 1889.  She had been a resident of this area for 12 years, living at 265 East Third street, San Jacinto.   She is survived by her widower, Frederick W. Scantling; a son, Frederick II, of Los Angeles, and three grandchildren.   From the Hemet News, 5 June 1973, p. 3:   Services Pending Funeral services are pending at the Harford Funeral Home for Frederick W. Scantling, 87, who died Monday at Hemet Community Hospital.   Sorry these are not more help.  They did send me both of these as pdf files, so if you want copies, just let me know. Sherri -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:45 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed Sherri,   That's awesome and much appreciated.  I'll look forward to seeing if it can be located. --- On Sun, 8/23/09, Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> wrote: From: Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 5:39 AM I've requested a copy of his obituary through RAOGK.  Hopefully it will shed some light on his family - parents and siblings.  Will send when I receive. Sherri -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of marie sellers hollinger Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 10:52 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I was afraid of that. You have already done pretty complete job. Riverside, CA usgenweb, ask for help, if they lived there very long. I didn't check city directories and my old newspapers aren't working tonite, but, didn't see on a fast search and didn't see on obit indexes that I have. Kids of C.W. = followed up in census? I am sure you have. You do good work. He isn't a CW age, but Scantlings in CW? Best wishes, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb..com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:46 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed The California Death Certificate abstract for Frederick William Scantling is blank concerning the names of his parents.    Michael  --- On Sat, 8/22/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 9:13 PM I believe I would try the death certificate, as suggested earlier. Thanks, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:06 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed First off, thanks for the efforts and help.  It is much appreciated.   Marie & all, Carrie Holland Sellers was the 14th of 14 children born to Jerome Howard Brown Sellers (Nov. 14, 1825 - Feb. 27, 1910) and Margaret Rebecca Bell (Nov. 2, 1832 - June 17, 1907). Carrie was born in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia, on October 2, 1880, and died in Riverside County, California, on June 2, 1965.   Carrie married Frederick William Scantling on February 10, 1909, at the home of her parents in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia.  I do not know where the Marriage License was obtained.  However, given that they were married in Augusta County, it's more than likely that the License was obtained there.  Perhaps there is a Marriage Record for them in Augusta County and possibly it was name/list Fred's parents?   Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, in Albemarle County, Virginia.  His World War I Draft Registration card listed the specific town in Albemarle in which he was born as "Crozet" (pronounced Kro-zay).  There were two Scantling families in that area into the 1930s.  One family, that of Charles W. Scantling, possibly could've been Fred's father.   One of Fred's grandsons recently stated that Fred had at least 4 or 5 sisters; Mildred Minnie, Lydia, Ethel, Hattie, and Luttie.   1880 Census records for Albemarle County, Virginia, list the household of "Chs W. Scaustine" with wife "Milly" and daughter, "Minna A.".  A look at the actual census page shows the last name to have indeed been "Scantling".   A birth record via Familysearch.org show that a "Lydia Scantling" was born on May 27, 1881, in Albemarle County, Virginia, to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly".  Another records shows that an "Ethel Scantling" was born in 1889 to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly".  So, it's possible that Fred's father was Charles W. Scantling, however, I have found nothing to confirm this.   Charles W. Scantling does not appear on the 1900 Census, at least not that I can find.  Per the 1880, 1910, 1920, & 1930 censuses, Charles W. Scantling was born circa 1860 in Virginia.  On those censuses, he was always listed in Albemarle County, Virginia.  I believe he was the son of William A. Scantling and Elizabeth Clark.   C. W.. Scantling appears on the 1910 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman.   Charles W. Scantling appears on the 1920 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman.   Charlie W. Scantling appears on the 1930 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, as widowed with sons Jennings and Norman living in the household.  Daughter Nora had married Daniel O'Conell Bishop.   If Charles was indeed Fred's father, then it appears that 1st wife "Milly" possibly died and Charles then remarried to Maggie.  Unfortunately, I cannot for the life of me locate Charles W. Scantling on the 1900 Census to see who is listed in his household, specifically Frederick William Scantling..   Frederick William Scantling died in Riverside County, California, on June 4, 1973, at the age of 86.  I have no sources for checking for an Obituary..  If someone has access to Obits, perhaps Fred's obit from 1973 can be obtained and maybe his parents are listed?   Family bible records kept by Fred's wife, Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling, do not list the names of Fred's parents.  Darn it!   Michael Sellers --- On Wed, 8/19/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 10:48 PM MICHAEL, Carol's suggestion on death certificate is probably best. AND also Carrie's death certificat is here also with no info on CA death report. WHO are her parents?? Other info I see = 1900 Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. 1910 Carrie Scantling Fred Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1882 Virginia Wife,both parents VA  Fred Scantling Carrie Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1887 Virginia Head ,both parents VA John Plaine/BLAINE 23 VA, BROTHER, BOTH PARENTS VA ca WHO IS THIS??? WW 1 Frederick Wm Scantling 20 Jan 1887 Caucasian (White) Virginia;United States of America Augusta, VA born CROZET, VA (Albemarle Co., msh) MACHINEST FOR STAUNTON MACHINE, STAUNTON, VA WIFE AND ONE CHILD, PARTIALLY BLIND MED HEIGHT, MED BUILD, BROWN EYES, BLACK HAIR, PARTIALLY BLIND === 1920 Staunton Ward 1, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia Fred E Scantling 31 Carrie Scantling 38 Fred Scantling 2 6/12 1930 Staunton, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia Fred W Scantling 44 Carrie H Scantling 49 Frederick H Scantling 13 == Security Death Index Name:    Fred Scantling    SSN:    227-34-1322     Last Residence:    92383 San Jacinto, Riverside, California, United States of America    Born:    20 Jan 1887    Died:    Jun 1973    State (Year) SSN issued:    Virginia (Before 1951)            Carrie H Scantling 2 Jun 1965 Riverside 2 Oct 1880 Virginia  DEATH -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:20 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I'm trying to identify the parents and any possible siblings of Frederick William Scantling, husband of Carrie Holland Sellers.  I'm wondering if anyone with access to Ancestry records can lend me a hand.   Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, presumably in Augusta County, Virginia, but it may have been in neighboring Albemarle County, Virginia.   Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia.  After a brief move to Dayton, Ohio, in 1910, they had returned "home" to Augusta County, Virginia, by 1917 when "Frederick Wm.. Scantling" filled out his World War I Draft Registration card.   I cannot find Fred on the 1900 Census and have been totally unable to identify his parents.  Fred and Carrie had one son, Frederick Holland Scantling, who in turn had 4 children.  I have spoken with the 4 grandchildren, and they are just as stumped.  The Family Bible kept by Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling oddly did not list the name of Fred's parents either.    I would truly appreciate any assistance and/or record look-ups by those with access that can unravel this mini-mystery and identify the names of Frederick William Scantling's parents.   Thanks!   Michael Sellers           ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message           ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks again for the great info.  We'll keep swinging at it and hopefully the names of his parents will fall out of the tree at some point.   Sherri, thanks much for the .PDF copies of Carrie's obituary and of Fred's death notice. Carrie's obit does indeed state that she was born on October 2, 1889, however, that was in error.  She was born on that date in 1880, not 1889.  Plus, it's kind of difficult to be 84 years old in 1965 with a birth year of 1889.   I have yet to locate Frederick on any record prior to the 1910 Census, although I do know that Fred and Carrie were married on the homestead of her father in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia, on February 10, 1909.  I guess we're down to a birth record or their marriage record being located as opportunities to find out Fred's parents.   Michael --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> wrote: From: Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: "'Michael Sellers'" <muckham11@yahoo.com>, sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 8:01 PM I’ve received the obits of Frederick and Carrie.  Unfortunately, they don’t shed a lot of light.    >From the Hemet News June 6, 1965, p. 8   Services Held in San Jacinto for Carrie Scantling   Services were held Saturday morning in Harford Funeral Home in San Jacinto for Mrs. Carrie Haolland Scantling, 84, who passed away Wednesday in a Riverside hospital.  The Rev. William Thomas officiated at the rites, and burial was in San Jacinto Valley Cemetery.    Churchville, Virginia was Mrs. Scantling’s birthplace on October 2, 1889.  She had been a resident of this area for 12 years, living at 265 East Third street, San Jacinto.   She is survived by her widower, Frederick W. Scantling; a son, Frederick II, of Los Angeles, and three grandchildren.   >From the Hemet News, 5 June 1973, p. 3:   Services Pending Funeral services are pending at the Harford Funeral Home for Frederick W. Scantling, 87, who died Monday at Hemet Community Hospital.   Sorry these are not more help.  They did send me both of these as pdf files, so if you want copies, just let me know. Sherri -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:45 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed Sherri,   That's awesome and much appreciated.  I'll look forward to seeing if it can be located. --- On Sun, 8/23/09, Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> wrote: From: Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 5:39 AM I've requested a copy of his obituary through RAOGK.  Hopefully it will shed some light on his family - parents and siblings.  Will send when I receive. Sherri -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of marie sellers hollinger Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 10:52 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I was afraid of that. You have already done pretty complete job. Riverside, CA usgenweb, ask for help, if they lived there very long. I didn't check city directories and my old newspapers aren't working tonite, but, didn't see on a fast search and didn't see on obit indexes that I have. Kids of C.W. = followed up in census? I am sure you have. You do good work. He isn't a CW age, but Scantlings in CW? Best wishes, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:46 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed The California Death Certificate abstract for Frederick William Scantling is blank concerning the names of his parents.    Michael  --- On Sat, 8/22/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 9:13 PM I believe I would try the death certificate, as suggested earlier. Thanks, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:06 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed First off, thanks for the efforts and help.  It is much appreciated.   Marie & all, Carrie Holland Sellers was the 14th of 14 children born to Jerome Howard Brown Sellers (Nov. 14, 1825 - Feb. 27, 1910) and Margaret Rebecca Bell (Nov. 2, 1832 - June 17, 1907). Carrie was born in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia, on October 2, 1880, and died in Riverside County, California, on June 2, 1965.   Carrie married Frederick William Scantling on February 10, 1909, at the home of her parents in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia.  I do not know where the Marriage License was obtained.  However, given that they were married in Augusta County, it's more than likely that the License was obtained there.  Perhaps there is a Marriage Record for them in Augusta County and possibly it was name/list Fred's parents?   Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, in Albemarle County, Virginia.  His World War I Draft Registration card listed the specific town in Albemarle in which he was born as "Crozet" (pronounced Kro-zay).  There were two Scantling families in that area into the 1930s.  One family, that of Charles W. Scantling, possibly could've been Fred's father.   One of Fred's grandsons recently stated that Fred had at least 4 or 5 sisters; Mildred Minnie, Lydia, Ethel, Hattie, and Luttie.   1880 Census records for Albemarle County, Virginia, list the household of "Chs W. Scaustine" with wife "Milly" and daughter, "Minna A.".  A look at the actual census page shows the last name to have indeed been "Scantling".   A birth record via Familysearch.org show that a "Lydia Scantling" was born on May 27, 1881, in Albemarle County, Virginia, to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly".  Another records shows that an "Ethel Scantling" was born in 1889 to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly".  So, it's possible that Fred's father was Charles W. Scantling, however, I have found nothing to confirm this.   Charles W. Scantling does not appear on the 1900 Census, at least not that I can find.  Per the 1880, 1910, 1920, & 1930 censuses, Charles W. Scantling was born circa 1860 in Virginia.  On those censuses, he was always listed in Albemarle County, Virginia.  I believe he was the son of William A. Scantling and Elizabeth Clark.   C. W. Scantling appears on the 1910 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman.   Charles W. Scantling appears on the 1920 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman.   Charlie W. Scantling appears on the 1930 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, as widowed with sons Jennings and Norman living in the household.  Daughter Nora had married Daniel O'Conell Bishop.   If Charles was indeed Fred's father, then it appears that 1st wife "Milly" possibly died and Charles then remarried to Maggie.  Unfortunately, I cannot for the life of me locate Charles W. Scantling on the 1900 Census to see who is listed in his household, specifically Frederick William Scantling.   Frederick William Scantling died in Riverside County, California, on June 4, 1973, at the age of 86.  I have no sources for checking for an Obituary..  If someone has access to Obits, perhaps Fred's obit from 1973 can be obtained and maybe his parents are listed?   Family bible records kept by Fred's wife, Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling, do not list the names of Fred's parents.  Darn it!   Michael Sellers --- On Wed, 8/19/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 10:48 PM MICHAEL, Carol's suggestion on death certificate is probably best. AND also Carrie's death certificat is here also with no info on CA death report. WHO are her parents?? Other info I see = 1900 Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. 1910 Carrie Scantling Fred Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1882 Virginia Wife,both parents VA  Fred Scantling Carrie Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1887 Virginia Head ,both parents VA John Plaine/BLAINE 23 VA, BROTHER, BOTH PARENTS VA ca WHO IS THIS??? WW 1 Frederick Wm Scantling 20 Jan 1887 Caucasian (White) Virginia;United States of America Augusta, VA born CROZET, VA (Albemarle Co., msh) MACHINEST FOR STAUNTON MACHINE, STAUNTON, VA WIFE AND ONE CHILD, PARTIALLY BLIND MED HEIGHT, MED BUILD, BROWN EYES, BLACK HAIR, PARTIALLY BLIND === 1920 Staunton Ward 1, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia Fred E Scantling 31 Carrie Scantling 38 Fred Scantling 2 6/12 1930 Staunton, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia Fred W Scantling 44 Carrie H Scantling 49 Frederick H Scantling 13 == Security Death Index Name:    Fred Scantling    SSN:    227-34-1322     Last Residence:    92383 San Jacinto, Riverside, California, United States of America    Born:    20 Jan 1887    Died:    Jun 1973    State (Year) SSN issued:    Virginia (Before 1951)            Carrie H Scantling 2 Jun 1965 Riverside 2 Oct 1880 Virginia  DEATH -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:20 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I'm trying to identify the parents and any possible siblings of Frederick William Scantling, husband of Carrie Holland Sellers.  I'm wondering if anyone with access to Ancestry records can lend me a hand.   Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, presumably in Augusta County, Virginia, but it may have been in neighboring Albemarle County, Virginia.   Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia.  After a brief move to Dayton, Ohio, in 1910, they had returned "home" to Augusta County, Virginia, by 1917 when "Frederick Wm.. Scantling" filled out his World War I Draft Registration card.   I cannot find Fred on the 1900 Census and have been totally unable to identify his parents.  Fred and Carrie had one son, Frederick Holland Scantling, who in turn had 4 children.  I have spoken with the 4 grandchildren, and they are just as stumped.  The Family Bible kept by Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling oddly did not list the name of Fred's parents either.    I would truly appreciate any assistance and/or record look-ups by those with access that can unravel this mini-mystery and identify the names of Frederick William Scantling's parents.   Thanks!   Michael Sellers           ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message    

SHERRI, thanks for trying. Sometimes we win, sometimes we don't, but, we continue on. It all helps, further down the road? marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sherri Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:02 PM To: 'Michael Sellers'; sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I've received the obits of Frederick and Carrie. Unfortunately, they don't shed a lot of light. >From the Hemet News June 6, 1965, p. 8 Services Held in San Jacinto for Carrie Scantling Services were held Saturday morning in Harford Funeral Home in San Jacinto for Mrs. Carrie Haolland Scantling, 84, who passed away Wednesday in a Riverside hospital. The Rev. William Thomas officiated at the rites, and burial was in San Jacinto Valley Cemetery. Churchville, Virginia was Mrs. Scantling's birthplace on October 2, 1889. She had been a resident of this area for 12 years, living at 265 East Third street, San Jacinto. She is survived by her widower, Frederick W. Scantling; a son, Frederick II, of Los Angeles, and three grandchildren. >From the Hemet News, 5 June 1973, p. 3: Services Pending Funeral services are pending at the Harford Funeral Home for Frederick W. Scantling, 87, who died Monday at Hemet Community Hospital. Sorry these are not more help. They did send me both of these as pdf files, so if you want copies, just let me know. Sherri -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers-bounces@rootsweb.c om> [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers-bounces@rootsweb.c om> ] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:45 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed Sherri, That's awesome and much appreciated. I'll look forward to seeing if it can be located. --- On Sun, 8/23/09, Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net <http://us.mc591..mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ldrbelties@earthlink.net> > wrote: From: Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ldrbelties@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 5:39 AM I've requested a copy of his obituary through RAOGK. Hopefully it will shed some light on his family - parents and siblings. Will send when I receive. Sherri -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers-bounces@rootsweb.. com> [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers-bounces@rootsweb.c om> ] On Behalf Of marie sellers hollinger Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 10:52 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I was afraid of that. You have already done pretty complete job. Riverside, CA usgenweb, ask for help, if they lived there very long. I didn't check city directories and my old newspapers aren't working tonite, but, didn't see on a fast search and didn't see on obit indexes that I have. Kids of C.W. = followed up in census? I am sure you have. You do good work. He isn't a CW age, but Scantlings in CW? Best wishes, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers-bounces@rootsweb.c om> [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers-bounces@rootsweb.c om> ] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:46 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed The California Death Certificate abstract for Frederick William Scantling is blank concerning the names of his parents. Michael --- On Sat, 8/22/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mari@netins.net> > wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mari@netins.net> > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 9:13 PM I believe I would try the death certificate, as suggested earlier. Thanks, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers-bounces@rootsweb.c om> [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers-bounces@rootsweb.. com> ] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:06 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed First off, thanks for the efforts and help. It is much appreciated. Marie & all, Carrie Holland Sellers was the 14th of 14 children born to Jerome Howard Brown Sellers (Nov. 14, 1825 - Feb. 27, 1910) and Margaret Rebecca Bell (Nov. 2, 1832 - June 17, 1907). Carrie was born in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia, on October 2, 1880, and died in Riverside County, California, on June 2, 1965. Carrie married Frederick William Scantling on February 10, 1909, at the home of her parents in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. I do not know where the Marriage License was obtained. However, given that they were married in Augusta County, it's more than likely that the License was obtained there. Perhaps there is a Marriage Record for them in Augusta County and possibly it was name/list Fred's parents? Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, in Albemarle County, Virginia. His World War I Draft Registration card listed the specific town in Albemarle in which he was born as "Crozet" (pronounced Kro-zay). There were two Scantling families in that area into the 1930s. One family, that of Charles W. Scantling, possibly could've been Fred's father. One of Fred's grandsons recently stated that Fred had at least 4 or 5 sisters; Mildred Minnie, Lydia, Ethel, Hattie, and Luttie. 1880 Census records for Albemarle County, Virginia, list the household of "Chs W. Scaustine" with wife "Milly" and daughter, "Minna A.". A look at the actual census page shows the last name to have indeed been "Scantling". A birth record via Familysearch.org show that a "Lydia Scantling" was born on May 27, 1881, in Albemarle County, Virginia, to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly". Another records shows that an "Ethel Scantling" was born in 1889 to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly". So, it's possible that Fred's father was Charles W. Scantling, however, I have found nothing to confirm this. Charles W. Scantling does not appear on the 1900 Census, at least not that I can find. Per the 1880, 1910, 1920, & 1930 censuses, Charles W. Scantling was born circa 1860 in Virginia. On those censuses, he was always listed in Albemarle County, Virginia. I believe he was the son of William A. Scantling and Elizabeth Clark. C. W. Scantling appears on the 1910 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman. Charles W. Scantling appears on the 1920 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman. Charlie W. Scantling appears on the 1930 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, as widowed with sons Jennings and Norman living in the household. Daughter Nora had married Daniel O'Conell Bishop. If Charles was indeed Fred's father, then it appears that 1st wife "Milly" possibly died and Charles then remarried to Maggie. Unfortunately, I cannot for the life of me locate Charles W. Scantling on the 1900 Census to see who is listed in his household, specifically Frederick William Scantling. Frederick William Scantling died in Riverside County, California, on June 4, 1973, at the age of 86. I have no sources for checking for an Obituary.. If someone has access to Obits, perhaps Fred's obit from 1973 can be obtained and maybe his parents are listed? Family bible records kept by Fred's wife, Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling, do not list the names of Fred's parents. Darn it! Michael Sellers --- On Wed, 8/19/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mari@netins.net> > wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mari@netins.net> > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 10:48 PM MICHAEL, Carol's suggestion on death certificate is probably best. AND also Carrie's death certificat is here also with no info on CA death report. WHO are her parents?? Other info I see = 1900 Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. 1910 Carrie Scantling Fred Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1882 Virginia Wife,both parents VA Fred Scantling Carrie Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1887 Virginia Head ,both parents VA John Plaine/BLAINE 23 VA, BROTHER, BOTH PARENTS VA ca WHO IS THIS??? WW 1 Frederick Wm Scantling 20 Jan 1887 Caucasian (White) Virginia;United States of America Augusta, VA born CROZET, VA (Albemarle Co., msh) MACHINEST FOR STAUNTON MACHINE, STAUNTON, VA WIFE AND ONE CHILD, PARTIALLY BLIND MED HEIGHT, MED BUILD, BROWN EYES, BLACK HAIR, PARTIALLY BLIND === 1920 Staunton Ward 1, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia Fred E Scantling 31 Carrie Scantling 38 Fred Scantling 2 6/12 1930 Staunton, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia Fred W Scantling 44 Carrie H Scantling 49 Frederick H Scantling 13 == Security Death Index Name: Fred Scantling SSN: 227-34-1322 Last Residence: 92383 San Jacinto, Riverside, California, United States of America Born: 20 Jan 1887 Died: Jun 1973 State (Year) SSN issued: Virginia (Before 1951) Carrie H Scantling 2 Jun 1965 Riverside 2 Oct 1880 Virginia DEATH -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers-bounces@rootsweb.c om> [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers-bounces@rootsweb.c om> ] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:20 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I'm trying to identify the parents and any possible siblings of Frederick William Scantling, husband of Carrie Holland Sellers. I'm wondering if anyone with access to Ancestry records can lend me a hand. Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, presumably in Augusta County, Virginia, but it may have been in neighboring Albemarle County, Virginia. Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. After a brief move to Dayton, Ohio, in 1910, they had returned "home" to Augusta County, Virginia, by 1917 when "Frederick Wm.. Scantling" filled out his World War I Draft Registration card. I cannot find Fred on the 1900 Census and have been totally unable to identify his parents. Fred and Carrie had one son, Frederick Holland Scantling, who in turn had 4 children. I have spoken with the 4 grandchildren, and they are just as stumped. The Family Bible kept by Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling oddly did not list the name of Fred's parents either. I would truly appreciate any assistance and/or record look-ups by those with access that can unravel this mini-mystery and identify the names of Frederick William Scantling's parents. Thanks! Michael Sellers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=SELLERS-request@rootsweb.c om> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=SELLERS-request@rootsweb.c om> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=SELLERS-request@rootsweb.c om> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=SELLERS-request@rootsweb.c om> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo..com/mc/compose?to=SELLERS-request@rootsweb. com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=SELLERS-request@rootsweb.c om> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=SELLERS-request@rootsweb.c om> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=SELLERS-request@rootsweb.c om> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've received the obits of Frederick and Carrie. Unfortunately, they don't shed a lot of light. >From the Hemet News June 6, 1965, p. 8 Services Held in San Jacinto for Carrie Scantling Services were held Saturday morning in Harford Funeral Home in San Jacinto for Mrs. Carrie Haolland Scantling, 84, who passed away Wednesday in a Riverside hospital. The Rev. William Thomas officiated at the rites, and burial was in San Jacinto Valley Cemetery. Churchville, Virginia was Mrs. Scantling's birthplace on October 2, 1889. She had been a resident of this area for 12 years, living at 265 East Third street, San Jacinto. She is survived by her widower, Frederick W. Scantling; a son, Frederick II, of Los Angeles, and three grandchildren. >From the Hemet News, 5 June 1973, p. 3: Services Pending Funeral services are pending at the Harford Funeral Home for Frederick W. Scantling, 87, who died Monday at Hemet Community Hospital. Sorry these are not more help. They did send me both of these as pdf files, so if you want copies, just let me know. Sherri -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com> ] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:45 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed Sherri, That's awesome and much appreciated. I'll look forward to seeing if it can be located. --- On Sun, 8/23/09, Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net <http://us.mc591..mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ldrbelties@earthlink.net> > wrote: From: Sherri <ldrbelties@earthlink.net <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ldrbelties@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 5:39 AM I've requested a copy of his obituary through RAOGK. Hopefully it will shed some light on his family - parents and siblings. Will send when I receive. Sherri -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers-bounces@rootsweb..com> [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com> ] On Behalf Of marie sellers hollinger Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 10:52 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I was afraid of that. You have already done pretty complete job. Riverside, CA usgenweb, ask for help, if they lived there very long. I didn't check city directories and my old newspapers aren't working tonite, but, didn't see on a fast search and didn't see on obit indexes that I have. Kids of C.W. = followed up in census? I am sure you have. You do good work. He isn't a CW age, but Scantlings in CW? Best wishes, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com> ] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:46 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed The California Death Certificate abstract for Frederick William Scantling is blank concerning the names of his parents. Michael --- On Sat, 8/22/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mari@netins.net> > wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mari@netins.net> > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 9:13 PM I believe I would try the death certificate, as suggested earlier. Thanks, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers-bounces@rootsweb..com> ] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:06 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed First off, thanks for the efforts and help. It is much appreciated. Marie & all, Carrie Holland Sellers was the 14th of 14 children born to Jerome Howard Brown Sellers (Nov. 14, 1825 - Feb. 27, 1910) and Margaret Rebecca Bell (Nov. 2, 1832 - June 17, 1907). Carrie was born in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia, on October 2, 1880, and died in Riverside County, California, on June 2, 1965. Carrie married Frederick William Scantling on February 10, 1909, at the home of her parents in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. I do not know where the Marriage License was obtained. However, given that they were married in Augusta County, it's more than likely that the License was obtained there. Perhaps there is a Marriage Record for them in Augusta County and possibly it was name/list Fred's parents? Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, in Albemarle County, Virginia. His World War I Draft Registration card listed the specific town in Albemarle in which he was born as "Crozet" (pronounced Kro-zay). There were two Scantling families in that area into the 1930s. One family, that of Charles W. Scantling, possibly could've been Fred's father. One of Fred's grandsons recently stated that Fred had at least 4 or 5 sisters; Mildred Minnie, Lydia, Ethel, Hattie, and Luttie. 1880 Census records for Albemarle County, Virginia, list the household of "Chs W. Scaustine" with wife "Milly" and daughter, "Minna A.". A look at the actual census page shows the last name to have indeed been "Scantling". A birth record via Familysearch.org show that a "Lydia Scantling" was born on May 27, 1881, in Albemarle County, Virginia, to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly". Another records shows that an "Ethel Scantling" was born in 1889 to "Chs W. Scantling" and wife "Milly". So, it's possible that Fred's father was Charles W. Scantling, however, I have found nothing to confirm this. Charles W. Scantling does not appear on the 1900 Census, at least not that I can find. Per the 1880, 1910, 1920, & 1930 censuses, Charles W. Scantling was born circa 1860 in Virginia. On those censuses, he was always listed in Albemarle County, Virginia. I believe he was the son of William A. Scantling and Elizabeth Clark. C. W. Scantling appears on the 1910 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman. Charles W. Scantling appears on the 1920 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, with wife, Maggie, and children Jennings, Nora, and Norman. Charlie W. Scantling appears on the 1930 Census for Albemarle County, Virginia, as widowed with sons Jennings and Norman living in the household. Daughter Nora had married Daniel O'Conell Bishop. If Charles was indeed Fred's father, then it appears that 1st wife "Milly" possibly died and Charles then remarried to Maggie. Unfortunately, I cannot for the life of me locate Charles W. Scantling on the 1900 Census to see who is listed in his household, specifically Frederick William Scantling. Frederick William Scantling died in Riverside County, California, on June 4, 1973, at the age of 86. I have no sources for checking for an Obituary.. If someone has access to Obits, perhaps Fred's obit from 1973 can be obtained and maybe his parents are listed? Family bible records kept by Fred's wife, Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling, do not list the names of Fred's parents. Darn it! Michael Sellers --- On Wed, 8/19/09, marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mari@netins.net> > wrote: From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mari@netins.net> > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed To: sellers@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 10:48 PM MICHAEL, Carol's suggestion on death certificate is probably best. AND also Carrie's death certificat is here also with no info on CA death report. WHO are her parents?? Other info I see = 1900 Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. 1910 Carrie Scantling Fred Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1882 Virginia Wife,both parents VA Fred Scantling Carrie Dayton Ward 8, Montgomery, OH abt 1887 Virginia Head ,both parents VA John Plaine/BLAINE 23 VA, BROTHER, BOTH PARENTS VA ca WHO IS THIS??? WW 1 Frederick Wm Scantling 20 Jan 1887 Caucasian (White) Virginia;United States of America Augusta, VA born CROZET, VA (Albemarle Co., msh) MACHINEST FOR STAUNTON MACHINE, STAUNTON, VA WIFE AND ONE CHILD, PARTIALLY BLIND MED HEIGHT, MED BUILD, BROWN EYES, BLACK HAIR, PARTIALLY BLIND === 1920 Staunton Ward 1, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia Fred E Scantling 31 Carrie Scantling 38 Fred Scantling 2 6/12 1930 Staunton, Staunton (Independent City), Virginia Fred W Scantling 44 Carrie H Scantling 49 Frederick H Scantling 13 == Security Death Index Name: Fred Scantling SSN: 227-34-1322 Last Residence: 92383 San Jacinto, Riverside, California, United States of America Born: 20 Jan 1887 Died: Jun 1973 State (Year) SSN issued: Virginia (Before 1951) Carrie H Scantling 2 Jun 1965 Riverside 2 Oct 1880 Virginia DEATH -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com> ] On Behalf Of Michael Sellers Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:20 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com <http://us.mc591.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sellers@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SELLERS] Scantling-Sellers info needed I'm trying to identify the parents and any possible siblings of Frederick William Scantling, husband of Carrie Holland Sellers. I'm wondering if anyone with access to Ancestry records can lend me a hand. Frederick William Scantling was born on January 20, 1887, presumably in Augusta County, Virginia, but it may have been in neighboring Albemarle County, Virginia. Fred married Carrie Holland Sellers on February 10, 1909, in Churchville, Augusta County, Virginia. After a brief move to Dayton, Ohio, in 1910, they had returned "home" to Augusta County, Virginia, by 1917 when "Frederick Wm.. Scantling" filled out his World War I Draft Registration card. I cannot find Fred on the 1900 Census and have been totally unable to identify his parents. Fred and Carrie had one son, Frederick Holland Scantling, who in turn had 4 children. I have spoken with the 4 grandchildren, and they are just as stumped. The Family Bible kept by Carrie Holland (Sellers) Scantling oddly did not list the name of Fred's parents either. I would truly appreciate any assistance and/or record look-ups by those with access that can unravel this mini-mystery and identify the names of Frederick William Scantling's parents. Thanks! 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Oh wow ... while the name Samuel Sellers jumped out at me because that's the name of my great-great-grandfather, of course it's not the same one. According to the Pennsylvania Historical sign, the house was built around 1684, and my direct line was still in Germany at that time (and going by the surname of Soller). I'm sure there's a hook-in somewhere along the line ... but here's another website I found: http://udhistory.org/index.html The sellershall.org Friends of Sellers Hall website is linked from this page too. Their donation page says "under construction", but their email is: sellershall@gmail.com . The National Trust for Historic Preservation's website has the story at the bottom of the column on this page: http://www.preservationnation.org/magazine/2009/september-october/transitions.html http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local/20090329_A_17th-century_survivor_is_imperiled.html In the article's photo, you can see the apse of the church in the background. Oooh, I start to get personal about things like this. This house can't be allowed to continue to rot; it truly DOES need to be restored! It is my hope and prayer that something will to be worked out with the archdiocese, so that this can be preserved one way or another. Thanks for the heads-up on this, all! - Shari

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: t42MountOlivet Surnames: SELLERS Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sellers/2338/mb.ashx Message Board Post: WEIR Clarence W Sr and Marie SELLERS I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 206,332 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is the best I can find, does have phone number, hope we have someone in the area to make that call. http://www.parishesonline.com/scripts/HostedSites/org.asp?p=10&ID=7338 I just sent an e-mail to the sellershall at gmail. com asking how to donate and how the project is going. Will forward the answer to you, Marie and depending what is in it, the Sellers mailing list. Gracie ________________________________ From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> To: sellers@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 9:26:46 PM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Sellers Hall, 1682 GRACIE, thanks. Try for ST ALICE info now and advise. They will know if they can get historical, etc money and then need donations. WE want any donations to go to a long term/guaranteed place. Will add some pic's to our pages also. Thought we had them! Thank you, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gracie Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:22 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Sellers Hall, 1682 I googled SellersHall and found a web site for "Friends of Sellers Hall" http://sellershall.org/ Some of the links on the left side of page don't work yet. Some do. You can right click on the picture of the building and d/l a copy of it. There is a place to contact for donations. Also a place to send an e-mail. Gracie ________________________________ From: marie sellers hollinger To: LuJuana Lipscomb ; bill.sellers1@verizon.net; memawteen9@aol.com; MargieAllen9@aol.com; sellers@rootsweb.com Cc: txcuz@msn.com Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 9:04:12 PM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Sellers Hall, 1682 LUJUANA, thank you. We need an up date on this. We followed some info a few years ago. http://www.sellers-sellars-sollars-zellars.net/padelaw.htm http://www.sellers-sellars-sollars-zellars.net/padelsellershall.htm If St ALICE CHURCH OWNS it now. I would like up to date info from them and how donations are taken etc. Can you contact them and have them send last minute photos/info on this. Appreciate. I don't see the photo now either? Then and now? Please resend. Thank you, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: LuJuana Lipscomb [mailto:txcuz@webtv.net] Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:16 PM To: mari@netins.net; bill.sellers1@verizon.net; memawteen9@aol.com; MargieAllen9@aol.com Cc: txcuz@msn.com Subject: Sellers Hall, 1682 Magazine of the National Trust for Historic Preservation , "PRESERVATION" Sept/Oct 2009, pg. 10 "Threatened Sellers Hall. In 1682, Upper Darby, PA., was so remote that SAMUEL SELLERS lived in a cave while constructing his house. The farmhouse (pictured above in 1906) survived the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, and the Civil War, and provided shelter for slaves fleeing north. Today the deteriorating structure is owned by St. Alice Church. Parish officials once planned to raze the building, but now say they will leave it standing, though no reuse plan has been proposed. Local preservationists have formed a group called Save Sellers Hall; their first initiative is to list the building on the National Register of Historic Places." It has a high sloping roof, two dormer windows, five windows with shutters on second floor, might be six as tree obscuring left view, ground floor has five or six windows with shutters, single door which is offset from center, porch looks fairly narrow with four slender columns ?, maybe one step from ground. Beneath the left tree I can see a single door and one window without shutter ? on left side of house. On the right side appears to be a later add on indented from main house with one window, one door, high sloping roof, but not as high as house roof, with maybe a dormer window or chimney. This window has solid board shutter, tree. The add on roof looks peculiar to me as if it extended to top of second floor. I donate every year which is why I get the magazine. Will have to request that the Nat'l Trust if they get approved, to send to Seller Hall. LuJuana 78+ DWF, TX ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

GRACIE, thanks. Try for ST ALICE info now and advise. They will know if they can get historical, etc money and then need donations. WE want any donations to go to a long term/guaranteed place. Will add some pic's to our pages also. Thought we had them! Thank you, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sellers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gracie Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:22 PM To: sellers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Sellers Hall, 1682 I googled SellersHall and found a web site for "Friends of Sellers Hall" http://sellershall.org/ Some of the links on the left side of page don't work yet. Some do. You can right click on the picture of the building and d/l a copy of it. There is a place to contact for donations. Also a place to send an e-mail. Gracie ________________________________ From: marie sellers hollinger <mari@netins.net> To: LuJuana Lipscomb <txcuz@webtv.net>; bill.sellers1@verizon.net; memawteen9@aol.com; MargieAllen9@aol.com; sellers@rootsweb.com Cc: txcuz@msn.com Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 9:04:12 PM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Sellers Hall, 1682 LUJUANA, thank you. We need an up date on this. We followed some info a few years ago. http://www.sellers-sellars-sollars-zellars.net/padelaw.htm http://www.sellers-sellars-sollars-zellars.net/padelsellershall.htm If St ALICE CHURCH OWNS it now. I would like up to date info from them and how donations are taken etc. Can you contact them and have them send last minute photos/info on this. Appreciate. I don't see the photo now either? Then and now? Please resend. Thank you, marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: LuJuana Lipscomb [mailto:txcuz@webtv.net] Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:16 PM To: mari@netins.net; bill.sellers1@verizon.net; memawteen9@aol.com; MargieAllen9@aol.com Cc: txcuz@msn.com Subject: Sellers Hall, 1682 Magazine of the National Trust for Historic Preservation , "PRESERVATION" Sept/Oct 2009, pg. 10 "Threatened Sellers Hall. In 1682, Upper Darby, PA., was so remote that SAMUEL SELLERS lived in a cave while constructing his house. The farmhouse (pictured above in 1906) survived the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, and the Civil War, and provided shelter for slaves fleeing north. Today the deteriorating structure is owned by St. Alice Church. Parish officials once planned to raze the building, but now say they will leave it standing, though no reuse plan has been proposed. Local preservationists have formed a group called Save Sellers Hall; their first initiative is to list the building on the National Register of Historic Places." It has a high sloping roof, two dormer windows, five windows with shutters on second floor, might be six as tree obscuring left view, ground floor has five or six windows with shutters, single door which is offset from center, porch looks fairly narrow with four slender columns ?, maybe one step from ground. Beneath the left tree I can see a single door and one window without shutter ? on left side of house. On the right side appears to be a later add on indented from main house with one window, one door, high sloping roof, but not as high as house roof, with maybe a dormer window or chimney. This window has solid board shutter, tree. The add on roof looks peculiar to me as if it extended to top of second floor. I donate every year which is why I get the magazine. Will have to request that the Nat'l Trust if they get approved, to send to Seller Hall. LuJuana 78+ DWF, TX ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SELLERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message