MICHAEL, thanks. I believe I found this info on ancestry.com contributed by Wash Post.= does NOT mean that is only place available. AND two notes i sent was ALL that was in that paper! NEXT paper may have more = why you need the other papers! usgenweb/shares these files also? that county may have MORE info on those counties? YOU are doing great with GEORGIA'S help, etc. And FRANK may know how to do the NEWSPAPER articles = they are very hard/time for me. BUT, they are VERY HELPFUL! marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: Sellers.Michael [mailto:msellers@acresgaming.com] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 11:35 AM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SELLERS] RE: (Sellers)Clyde Allen Sellers/wash post/april, 1900 Marie, I certainly appreciate the info on the links. Unfortunately, I don't have an ancestry.com subscription, and I'm not able to view these. The marriage info for Frances Sellers, d/o Jerome Sellers, to Walter Teawalt was much appreciated. Would love to have the full article, if possible. Frances and Walter had a daughter they named Gertrude, who was very close to my grandfather, Whitfield T. Sellers. They were first cousins and remained close until Frances death. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Marie Sellers-Hollinger [mailto:mari@netins.net] Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 08:06 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SELLERS] RE: (Sellers)Clyde Allen Sellers/wash post/april, 1900 FRANK, thanks. don't believe I found the original url which listed several dates/years. a couple = and they may just be on ancestry.com subscribers = http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=news-dc-thewashingtonpost-1900 &gskw=&f2=washington+post&f5=&f4=&f3=&gsco=2%2cUnited+States&gspl=1%2cAll+St ates&f1=&ti=0&prox=1&submit.x=57&submit.y=11&gsfn=jerome&gsln=sellers&gss=an gs == http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=news-dc-thewashingtonpost-1910 &gskw=&f2=washington+post&f5=&f4=&f3=&gsco=2%2cUnited+States&gspl=1%2cAll+St ates&f1=&ti=0&prox=1&submit.x=57&submit.y=11&gsfn=jerome&gsln=sellers&gss=an gs same? http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gsfn=jerome&gsln=sellers&gskw=sta unton&prox=1&ti=0&db=news-dc-thewashingtonpost-1900&submit.x=58&submit.y=9 == the last one here = april 15, 1900 at home of bride, near Churchville, Wed AN, Miss Frances Sellers, dau of Mr and Mrs Jerome Sellers to Walter Terwalt?. Maid of honor Miss Carrie Sellers. couple more lines below = These Newspapers are hard to read and take a lot of time ==== I am sure Michael will want this info, if you haven't already found it. Sorry, I did Not save the original url. it is there. perhaps not ancestry.com, but was washington post, etc, as I original sent. thanks for caring. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: Sellersgen@aol.com [mailto:Sellersgen@aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 6:04 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] RE: (Sellers)Clyde Allen Sellers Mike, Georgia, Marie and all--- The cryptic citation ("WASH POST WASH DC") about Jerome Sellers very likely means there is an obituary or other article in the Washington Post newspaper concerning Jerome Sellers' death in 1910. Can anyone suggest a month or even a season and I will effort finding it? The Post was founded in 1877, and was under the ownership of an Ohioan, John McLean, owner of the Cincinnati Enquirer, during that period. Frank Sellers Falls Church, VA

-----Original Message----- From: LuJuana Cartwright Lipscomb [mailto:txcuz@msn.com] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 10:43 AM To: Marie Sellers Hollinger Subject: Early AL Marriages/Library-A-D EARLY AL MARRIAGES, 1991, Family Adventures, San Antonio, TX, software by Altan Kartaltepe Sellers, Alexander to White, Sarah 12/27/1838 Clarke Co. Andrew to Watkins, Martha Elizabeth 11/29/1849 Coosa Asa T. to Wilson, Mary J. 10/10/1871 Jefferson Benjamin to Edge, Mary Ann 1/26/1839 Pike Benjamin B. to Jacobs, Fenly Ann 11/18/1861 Henry Burwell to Newman, Mahala 3/9/1829 Blount C.C. Jr. to Vaughan, Martha 11/20/1882 Wilcox C.G. to Laney, Minnie 6/20/1905 Lee C.M. to Middlebrook, Nancy M. 7/20/1875 Butler C.W. to Wicker, Nancy 4/9/1871 Bullock Calvin to Martin, Harroet 11/7/1841 Clarke Calvin to Talbot, Elizabeth 3/18/1841 Pike Calvin C. to Howell, Eliza A. 6/12/1836 Wilcox D.B. to Parker, Margaret 2/1/1858 Butler D.B. to Vickery, Evie 11/4/1908 Butler D.E. to Oden, Pearl 3/14/1910 Butler D.F. to Mize, Martha 1/2/1912 Randolph D.K. to Booker, Lillie 10/14/1911 Butler D.T. to Pearson, Mary C. 8/21/1894 St.Clair D.W. to Bryan, J.E. 5/11/1899 Coffee Dan to Beck, Fannie 5/7/1890 Coffee Daniel C. to Hill, Eliza P. Mrs. 11/11/1868 Wilcox Daniel R. to Story, Mary 2/3/1860 Marshall Daniel T. to Gulledge, Nancy J. 2/18/1884 Blount Ducan T. to Brooks, E.J. 3/2/1869 Butler Duncan to Womack, Catherine 11/12/1858 Lowndes Duncan F. to Robinson, Narcissa L. 2/6/1866 Butler These have not been proofread, and I found two, Harroet and Ducan. This set was donated to the gen. library, old and very used, original price was about $1,795.

-----Original Message----- From: LuJuana Cartwright Lipscomb [mailto:txcuz@msn.com] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 11:53 AM To: Marie Sellers Hollinger Subject: AL Records Vol 31-61 Vol. 31-35=no Sellers Vol. 36, pg. 66: Jackson Co. 1850 Census: Dwelling #199, value of Real Estate-$1,000 Sellars, Young 61 yrs. b. NC Blacksmith Sarah 47 yrs. b. TN James 22 yrs. b. AL Farmer Juda 17 yrs. b. AL Eliza 15 yrs. b. AL Caroline 13 yrs. b. AL Vol. 36, pg, 67: Young 11 yrs. b. AL Oran 9 yrs. b. AL Crawford 18 yrs. b. AL Nicks, Michael 18 yrs. b. GA Blacksmith Vol. 37-47=No Sellers Vol. 48, pg. 19, Madison Co.: Sellars, Frances P. to James J. McMillan, 5/31/1848, solemnized 9/7/1848 by John Wright, J.P. Vol 49-53=no Sellers Vol. 54, pg. 97: Huntsville Newspapers-1/12/1869 on Monday the 24th at residence of bride's father, Hon. James Williams by Rev. James Cox, Mr. W.H. SELLS to Miss M.M. Williams. Vol. 55-57=no Sellers Vol. 58, pg. 97, Jefferson Co.: Sellers, Simon, 24 yrs. to Cintha Lawson, 11/6/1857 (return dated 8th) by John G. Cowan, J.P. at "my office"; parties of age; William C. Bird, Security. Vol.59-60=no Sellers Vol. 61, Limestone Co., pg. 4 & 5: Sellers, Eliza and George. Sally Childress,widow of Rep. O. Childress, late of TN, dower in Limestone Co., AL to Rufus M. Childress, Eliza Sellers, wife of George Sellers, Maniva, wife of Giles A. Reynolds and Demarus Childress, being all the children of my dec'd husband that is now of lawful age; to give me a 9th part of the proceeds of a certain tract; quit claim to above; and William H. Childress, Rebeca B. Childress, Marion Childress and James Childress, being all children of my dec'd husband that have any interest in my dower. 8/11/1834 Index to AL Wills-1808-1870 by AL Society of the DAR, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1955 & 1977: Selers, Calvin C. Wilcox Co. Will 3 1826-1858 p. 114 Sellars, Katherine Lowndes Co. Will Book B 1830-1859 p. 110 Sellers, Cornelia Bullcock Co. Will Book A 1868-1902 p. 35 Samuel Pike Co., Will Book A 1845-1864 p. 55 William Clarke Co., PRL 1861-1864 p. 58

Depending on what was involved, I think it woud be terrific. Probably be a first after the Thomas Jefferson family. Betty Sellers

TOM, thanks. Info on DNA has been sent thro our SELLERS list. I believe there is a DNA page you can check and see if ANY SELLERS info donated. WE can start info page , if anyone needs. Please send what you have and pages for SELLERS to refer to for info/advice, etc. What was your old email address? marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: Tommy Sellars [mailto:tsellars@hlsk.com] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 12:06 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] DNA Project for Sellers Marie: Has anyone ever considered a DNA project for the Sellers lines? Tom Thomas W. Sellars, CPA HEREFORD, LYNCH, SELLARS & KIRKHAM, P.C. Tel (936) 756-8127 Ext 203 Metro (936) 441-1338 Fax (936) 756-8132 Firm website: www.hlsk.com

Marie: Has anyone ever considered a DNA project for the Sellers lines? Tom Thomas W. Sellars, CPA HEREFORD, LYNCH, SELLARS & KIRKHAM, P.C. Tel (936) 756-8127 Ext 203 Metro (936) 441-1338 Fax (936) 756-8132 Firm website: www.hlsk.com

Georgia, I was able to get a transcribed copy of Jerome Bruces Sellers' obit over this past weekend, which I'm including here for anyone interested in reading it. It contains answers to some of the questions I/we were searching for in terms of where the family went to in Iowa after leaving Virginia along with when Samuel Howard Sellers took the family from Iowa to South Dakota. Daily Republic, Mitchell, SD, March 9, 1982 Bruce Sellers Mt.Vernon - Funeral services for Jerome Bruce Sellers, 85, will be Wednesday, March 10 at 2 p.m. at the United Methodist Church in Mt.Vernon. Burial will be in the Mt.Vernon cemetery. Visitation will be Tuesday from 7-9 p.m. at the Bittner Funeral Chapel in Mitchell. Mr. Sellers died at Mt. Vernon March 7. He was born March 4, 1897 in Winterset, Iowa to Samuel Howard and Clara May Sellers. In 1910 he came to Mt.Vernon where he had since resided. In May 1930 he married Eva Dunham. She died in 1965. In 1968 he married Evelyn Patterson. He cared for his father until his death in 1940 and for his mother-in-law, Mrs. Dunham, until her death a few years later. He was of tender disposition and loved his family and friends. During World War I he served in the U.S. Army. He was a member of the United Methodist Church at Mt. Vernon, the Odd Fellows Lodge and the Mt.Vernon American Legion. Survivors include his widow; three sisters, Mary Johnson, Madison; Leona Hartman, Hot Springs; and Lucile Svoboda, Clarendon Hills, IL; and several nieces. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Georgia Fletcher [mailto:chick@blzwire.com] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 06:09 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] Samuel Howard Sellers of Davison County, South Dakota Michael after I had a county in South Dakota, I was able to locate Samuel H. Sellers in 1930 Davison County, South Dakota census. 1930 Davison County, South Dakota Mount Vernon Township, District 13 enumerated on April 17, 1930 HH#24 Samuel H. Sellers, head, M, W, 65, widowed, age of first marriage age 29, VA, VA, VA; J. Bruce Sellers, son, M, W, 33, married age 33, IA, VA, IA (so in 1897 Samuel was in Iowa; need to try 1900 Iowa which is not indexed) farmer; Eva Sellers, daughter-in-law, 36, marriaged age 36; IL, IL, IL The name was difficult to read so the search engine does not pick up the Sellers name. Sellen might pick it up. Georgia

Marie, I certainly appreciate the info on the links. Unfortunately, I don't have an ancestry.com subscription, and I'm not able to view these. The marriage info for Frances Sellers, d/o Jerome Sellers, to Walter Teawalt was much appreciated. Would love to have the full article, if possible. Frances and Walter had a daughter they named Gertrude, who was very close to my grandfather, Whitfield T. Sellers. They were first cousins and remained close until Frances death. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Marie Sellers-Hollinger [mailto:mari@netins.net] Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 08:06 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SELLERS] RE: (Sellers)Clyde Allen Sellers/wash post/april, 1900 FRANK, thanks. don't believe I found the original url which listed several dates/years. a couple = and they may just be on ancestry.com subscribers = http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=news-dc-thewashingtonpost-1900 &gskw=&f2=washington+post&f5=&f4=&f3=&gsco=2%2cUnited+States&gspl=1%2cAll+St ates&f1=&ti=0&prox=1&submit.x=57&submit.y=11&gsfn=jerome&gsln=sellers&gss=an gs == http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=news-dc-thewashingtonpost-1910 &gskw=&f2=washington+post&f5=&f4=&f3=&gsco=2%2cUnited+States&gspl=1%2cAll+St ates&f1=&ti=0&prox=1&submit.x=57&submit.y=11&gsfn=jerome&gsln=sellers&gss=an gs same? http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gsfn=jerome&gsln=sellers&gskw=sta unton&prox=1&ti=0&db=news-dc-thewashingtonpost-1900&submit.x=58&submit.y=9 == the last one here = april 15, 1900 at home of bride, near Churchville, Wed AN, Miss Frances Sellers, dau of Mr and Mrs Jerome Sellers to Walter Terwalt?. Maid of honor Miss Carrie Sellers. couple more lines below = These Newspapers are hard to read and take a lot of time ==== I am sure Michael will want this info, if you haven't already found it. Sorry, I did Not save the original url. it is there. perhaps not ancestry.com, but was washington post, etc, as I original sent. thanks for caring. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: Sellersgen@aol.com [mailto:Sellersgen@aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 6:04 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] RE: (Sellers)Clyde Allen Sellers Mike, Georgia, Marie and all--- The cryptic citation ("WASH POST WASH DC") about Jerome Sellers very likely means there is an obituary or other article in the Washington Post newspaper concerning Jerome Sellers' death in 1910. Can anyone suggest a month or even a season and I will effort finding it? The Post was founded in 1877, and was under the ownership of an Ohioan, John McLean, owner of the Cincinnati Enquirer, during that period. Frank Sellers Falls Church, VA

I must go to the downtown Washington D.C. Martin Luther King Public Library to have access to the Washington Post microfilm from 1910. Haven't had the chance to do that yet, but will sometime soon and will quote what is available. Frank S.

url is okay. put it all together, i could use this one. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: Marie Sellers-Hollinger [mailto:mari@netins.net] Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 10:35 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SELLERS] RE: (Sellers)Clyde Allen Sellers/wash post march 1910 http://content.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=view&dbid=6615&iid=NEWS-DC-THEWASHINGT ONPOST-1910.1910.03.01-00012&r=an&rc=1941,2278,2021,2295;2044,2279,2122,2296 ; = WASH POST, MARCH, 1910 STAUNTON, FEB 28, 1910, JEROME SELLERS 85 YEARS OLD, DIED AT CHURCHVILLE YESTERDAY LEAVING A LARGE FAMILY. == this was the original post i read/saw, but, there were others listed with diff dates. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: Sellersgen@aol.com [mailto:Sellersgen@aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 6:04 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] RE: (Sellers)Clyde Allen Sellers Mike, Georgia, Marie and all--- The cryptic citation ("WASH POST WASH DC") about Jerome Sellers very likely means there is an obituary or other article in the Washington Post newspaper concerning Jerome Sellers' death in 1910. Can anyone suggest a month or even a season and I will effort finding it? The Post was founded in 1877, and was under the ownership of an Ohioan, John McLean, owner of the Cincinnati Enquirer, during that period. Frank Sellers Falls Church, VA

http://content.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=view&dbid=6615&iid=NEWS-DC-THEWASHINGT ONPOST-1910.1910.03.01-00012&r=an&rc=1941,2278,2021,2295;2044,2279,2122,2296 ; = WASH POST, MARCH, 1910 STAUNTON, FEB 28, 1910, JEROME SELLERS 85 YEARS OLD, DIED AT CHURCHVILLE YESTERDAY LEAVING A LARGE FAMILY. == this was the original post i read/saw, but, there were others listed with diff dates. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: Sellersgen@aol.com [mailto:Sellersgen@aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 6:04 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] RE: (Sellers)Clyde Allen Sellers Mike, Georgia, Marie and all--- The cryptic citation ("WASH POST WASH DC") about Jerome Sellers very likely means there is an obituary or other article in the Washington Post newspaper concerning Jerome Sellers' death in 1910. Can anyone suggest a month or even a season and I will effort finding it? The Post was founded in 1877, and was under the ownership of an Ohioan, John McLean, owner of the Cincinnati Enquirer, during that period. Frank Sellers Falls Church, VA

FRANK, thanks. don't believe I found the original url which listed several dates/years. a couple = and they may just be on ancestry.com subscribers = http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=news-dc-thewashingtonpost-1900 &gskw=&f2=washington+post&f5=&f4=&f3=&gsco=2%2cUnited+States&gspl=1%2cAll+St ates&f1=&ti=0&prox=1&submit.x=57&submit.y=11&gsfn=jerome&gsln=sellers&gss=an gs == http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=news-dc-thewashingtonpost-1910 &gskw=&f2=washington+post&f5=&f4=&f3=&gsco=2%2cUnited+States&gspl=1%2cAll+St ates&f1=&ti=0&prox=1&submit.x=57&submit.y=11&gsfn=jerome&gsln=sellers&gss=an gs same? http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gsfn=jerome&gsln=sellers&gskw=sta unton&prox=1&ti=0&db=news-dc-thewashingtonpost-1900&submit.x=58&submit.y=9 == the last one here = april 15, 1900 at home of bride, near Churchville, Wed AN, Miss Frances Sellers, dau of Mr and Mrs Jerome Sellers to Walter Terwalt?. Maid of honor Miss Carrie Sellers. couple more lines below = These Newspapers are hard to read and take a lot of time ==== I am sure Michael will want this info, if you haven't already found it. Sorry, I did Not save the original url. it is there. perhaps not ancestry.com, but was washington post, etc, as I original sent. thanks for caring. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: Sellersgen@aol.com [mailto:Sellersgen@aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 6:04 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] RE: (Sellers)Clyde Allen Sellers Mike, Georgia, Marie and all--- The cryptic citation ("WASH POST WASH DC") about Jerome Sellers very likely means there is an obituary or other article in the Washington Post newspaper concerning Jerome Sellers' death in 1910. Can anyone suggest a month or even a season and I will effort finding it? The Post was founded in 1877, and was under the ownership of an Ohioan, John McLean, owner of the Cincinnati Enquirer, during that period. Frank Sellers Falls Church, VA

Georgia, After checking my notes, I was able to locate the identity of the Thomas A. Sellers and Oscar D. Sellers who are listed as grandsons in the household of Mary M. Gilmore. Both Thomas and Oscar are related to me as cousins. We share the same ancestor in Heinrich Zeller, however, that's where the lines diverge. I descend from Heinrich via his son, Adam Sellers. Thomas and Oscar descend from Heinrich via his son, Peter Sellers. Thomas (A)lfred Sellers (23 Aug 1855 - March 1921) and Oscar (D)avid Sellers (Sept 1861 - 1944) were both sons of John Peter Sellers (2 Sept 1827 - 1910) and Lydia Catherine Gilmore (1835 - 4 Nov 1866) and were grandsons of Emanuel Sellers and Sarah Warble. Thomas married Milliam A. (Millie) Shifflet (1879 - 1939) and Oscar married (1) Isyphene C. Rodgers and (2) Virginia Catherine Sowers. Thomas and Oscar had two full sisters in Sarah (born 1857) and Minnie (born 4 Nov 1866). Unfortunately, its possible that their mother, Lydia, died giving birth to sister Minnie. Minnie's given birthdate of 4 Nov 1866 matches the date given for when Lydia died. Minnie married Jeremiah Long. After their mother's death in 1866 their father, John Peter, married Lydia's sister, Mary J. Gilmore (20 Dec 1830 - 1907). John Peter Sellers and Mary J. Gilmore were married on 20 Aug 1867 and had a son, Charles Zebulon Sellers in June 1869. There is a gravesite for a "Charlie Z. and Mary J. Sellers" in the Mt. Olivet Cemetery which is that of Charles Zebulon Sellers. Its unknown to me whether the "Mary J." was his mother or a wife that could've been named Mary J. as well. Its odd that the parents, John Peter Sellers and 2nd wife Mary J. Gilmore, appear on the 1880 Rockingham County, Virginia Census, Stonewall District as well with children Minnie A. and Charles Z. living in the household. Why the other two boys, Thomas A. and Oscar D. were living with their grandmother is a complete mystery to me. The two boys are in the household of their grandmother, Mary M. Gilmore, while the other two children are at home with John Peter and Mary J. Makes one wonder where daughter Sarah was ...? Hope that's of some help and interest to someone .... Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgia Fletcher" <chick@blzwire.com> To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 3:52 PM Subject: [SELLERS] Sellers in Rockingham and Augusta County, Virginia > 1880 Rockingham County, Virginia > Stonewall District > enumerated June 1, 1880 > > HH#11 > Mary M.. Gilmor, W, F, 68, VA, VA, VA; > Etta F. Hickle, daughter, W, F, 28, VA, VA, VA; > William Hickle, son-in-law, W, M, 32, VA, VA, VA; > Ernest Hickle, grandson, W, M, !?, VA, VA, VA > Thomas A. Sellers, grandson, W, M, 24, VA, VA, VA; > Oscar D. Sellers, grandson, W, M, 19, VA, VA, VA; > 2 black servants > > next door is > Theodore N. Sellers, head, W, M, 50, farmer, VA, VA, VA; > Jane R. Sellers, wife, W, F, 50, VA, VA, VA; > John V. Sellers, son, W, M, 22, VA, VA, VA; > Edgar B. Sellers, son, W, M, 21, VA, VA, VA; > Theodore N. Sellers, son, W, M, 19, VA, VA, VA; > Margaret C. Sellers, daughter W, F, 16, VA, VA, VA; > Ada L. Sellers, daughter, W, F, 14, VA, VA, VA; > William W. Sellers, son, W, M, 10, VA, VA, VA; > Abram C. Kimler, boarder, W, M, 26, schoolteacher, MD, PA, PA > > next is a black family of Whitfield White (note the name Whitfield) > > next is > John I. Wood, W, M, 38, farmer, VA, VA, VA; > Elizabeth Wood, W, F, 37, VA VA VA; > Aldine P. Wood, W, M, 13, son, VA, VA, VA; > Annie E. Wood, W, F, 12, daughter, VA, VA, VA; > Emily W. Wood, W, F, 10, daughter, VA, VA, VA; > Elizabeth Sellers, W, F, 88, aunt, VA, VA, VA; > Annie P. Maggard, W, F, 78, mother-in-law, VA, VA, VA; > > > I understand who most of these people are but who is the Mary M. Gilmore > that has grandsons Thomas A. Sellers and Oscar D. Sellers. > > For the list: Annie P. Maggard nee Sellers and her sister Elizabeth > Sellers in the household of John I. Wood are daughters of Heinrich > Zellers and Mary Magdalene Hedrick. John Conrad Sellers is a brother to > these sisters. > > Georgia > > > >

Georgia, Like you, I recognize who most of these people are. I'm certainly familiar with the family of Theodore N. Sellers, his wife Jane, and their 6 children. Son John V. was actually John (D)unkam, and he married Lula Shaver. Son Edgar (B)rown married Mary Julia Mauzy. Son Theodore (N)orton married Louise Yates. Daughter Margaret (C)atherine married James Sipe and is buried in Mt. Olivet Cemetery in McGaheysville. If memory serves me correctly, their son eventually sold their land on which the Coors Plant is currently built in Rockingham County. Daughter Ada (L)ee never married and is also buried in Mt. Olivet. Son William married Rhoda Swartzel. I'm also very familiar with the Wood family and its own interesting connections to the Sellers. As seen from the Census, John (I)som Wood married Elizabeth Magadalene Maggard, daughter of Annie P. Maggard who is living in the household as well. Annie (P)ersilla Maggard was nee Sellers. She was indeed a sister to my 4 Great Grandfather, John Conrad Sellers. Annie (22 March 1802 - 18 Oct 1889) is buried at Mt. Olivet Cemetery. Anna and John Conrad's sister, Elizabeth Sellers, was also living with them. Elizabeth (1 Nov. 1791 - 4 June 1884) never married and is also buried at Mt. Olivet. All of the Wood's were eventually buried at Mt. Olivet as well. Here's where it gets interesting. John I. Wood's sister, Martha E. Wood, married John Wiklif Sellers, son of John Conrad Sellers and Catherine Brown. I recently spent a month tracking what happened to Martha and John which took me from VA to Texas and back again. A third Wood sibling, George, married Leonora Bell, daughter of William H. Bell and Eveline Shields. William H. Bell's sister and hence Leonora's Aunt, was Frances S. Bell. Frances S. Bell was the 2nd wife of John Conrad Sellers after the death of his first wive, Catherine Brown, in 1842. Interesting and confusing all at the same time! Unfortunately, off the top of my head, I do not recognize the identity of the Thomas A. Sellers and Oscar D. Sellers listed as grandsons in the Mary M. Gilmore household. I'll have to take a look at my notes once I get home this evening and see if I have anything there. I'll keep an eye out, too, for any Hickles that might appear in the mix somehow as well. Will post what, if anything, I find as soon as I can. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Georgia Fletcher [mailto:chick@blzwire.com] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 03:53 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] Sellers in Rockingham and Augusta County, Virginia 1880 Rockingham County, Virginia Stonewall District enumerated June 1, 1880 HH#11 Mary M.. Gilmor, W, F, 68, VA, VA, VA; Etta F. Hickle, daughter, W, F, 28, VA, VA, VA; William Hickle, son-in-law, W, M, 32, VA, VA, VA; Ernest Hickle, grandson, W, M, !?, VA, VA, VA Thomas A. Sellers, grandson, W, M, 24, VA, VA, VA; Oscar D. Sellers, grandson, W, M, 19, VA, VA, VA; 2 black servants next door is Theodore N. Sellers, head, W, M, 50, farmer, VA, VA, VA; Jane R. Sellers, wife, W, F, 50, VA, VA, VA; John V. Sellers, son, W, M, 22, VA, VA, VA; Edgar B. Sellers, son, W, M, 21, VA, VA, VA; Theodore N. Sellers, son, W, M, 19, VA, VA, VA; Margaret C. Sellers, daughter W, F, 16, VA, VA, VA; Ada L. Sellers, daughter, W, F, 14, VA, VA, VA; William W. Sellers, son, W, M, 10, VA, VA, VA; Abram C. Kimler, boarder, W, M, 26, schoolteacher, MD, PA, PA next is a black family of Whitfield White (note the name Whitfield) next is John I. Wood, W, M, 38, farmer, VA, VA, VA; Elizabeth Wood, W, F, 37, VA VA VA; Aldine P. Wood, W, M, 13, son, VA, VA, VA; Annie E. Wood, W, F, 12, daughter, VA, VA, VA; Emily W. Wood, W, F, 10, daughter, VA, VA, VA; Elizabeth Sellers, W, F, 88, aunt, VA, VA, VA; Annie P. Maggard, W, F, 78, mother-in-law, VA, VA, VA; I understand who most of these people are but who is the Mary M. Gilmore that has grandsons Thomas A. Sellers and Oscar D. Sellers. For the list: Annie P. Maggard nee Sellers and her sister Elizabeth Sellers in the household of John I. Wood are daughters of Heinrich Zellers and Mary Magdalene Hedrick. John Conrad Sellers is a brother to these sisters. Georgia

1880 Rockingham County, Virginia Stonewall District enumerated June 1, 1880 HH#11 Mary M.. Gilmor, W, F, 68, VA, VA, VA; Etta F. Hickle, daughter, W, F, 28, VA, VA, VA; William Hickle, son-in-law, W, M, 32, VA, VA, VA; Ernest Hickle, grandson, W, M, !?, VA, VA, VA Thomas A. Sellers, grandson, W, M, 24, VA, VA, VA; Oscar D. Sellers, grandson, W, M, 19, VA, VA, VA; 2 black servants next door is Theodore N. Sellers, head, W, M, 50, farmer, VA, VA, VA; Jane R. Sellers, wife, W, F, 50, VA, VA, VA; John V. Sellers, son, W, M, 22, VA, VA, VA; Edgar B. Sellers, son, W, M, 21, VA, VA, VA; Theodore N. Sellers, son, W, M, 19, VA, VA, VA; Margaret C. Sellers, daughter W, F, 16, VA, VA, VA; Ada L. Sellers, daughter, W, F, 14, VA, VA, VA; William W. Sellers, son, W, M, 10, VA, VA, VA; Abram C. Kimler, boarder, W, M, 26, schoolteacher, MD, PA, PA next is a black family of Whitfield White (note the name Whitfield) next is John I. Wood, W, M, 38, farmer, VA, VA, VA; Elizabeth Wood, W, F, 37, VA VA VA; Aldine P. Wood, W, M, 13, son, VA, VA, VA; Annie E. Wood, W, F, 12, daughter, VA, VA, VA; Emily W. Wood, W, F, 10, daughter, VA, VA, VA; Elizabeth Sellers, W, F, 88, aunt, VA, VA, VA; Annie P. Maggard, W, F, 78, mother-in-law, VA, VA, VA; I understand who most of these people are but who is the Mary M. Gilmore that has grandsons Thomas A. Sellers and Oscar D. Sellers. For the list: Annie P. Maggard nee Sellers and her sister Elizabeth Sellers in the household of John I. Wood are daughters of Heinrich Zellers and Mary Magdalene Hedrick. John Conrad Sellers is a brother to these sisters. Georgia

Georgia, I think its an excellent possibility that the 1850 Census record is for Elizabeth Magdalene Sellers and husband Jacob Shirey. This Jacob Shiry in 1850 appears in the household of (I'm assuming) his mother, Elizabeth, age 61. Ten years later, the Jacob Shirey on the 1860 Augusta County Census has his mother, Elizabeth, Age 72, living in his household. I think it would be a safe assumption to say that the 1850 Jacob in Rockingham Co. and the 1860 Jacob in Augusta Co. are one and the same. Since we only see one Jacob Shiry/Shirey and not two separate Jacob Shiry/Shireys living in each county for both the 1850 and 1860 Censuses, I think the assumption is an even safer one to make. And, additionally, the ages listed for Jacob and Elizabeth for the 1850 Census are nearly correct for what they should be for the Jacob Shirey and Elizabeth Magdalene Sellers we're looking for. You are most definitely correct about Rockingham County. It shares a border with Augusta County. This line of Sellers was from Rockingham County and did not move into Augusta County until Elizabeth's father, John Conrad Sellers, moved the family there in the 1830's. John Conrad Sellers appears on the 1830 Rockingham County Census but then appears on the 1840 Augusta County Census. He bought a farm just outside of Churchville, Augusta County. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to locate the land records for the property to determine exactly when he bought it and from whom. So, Elizabeth, born in 1823, would've been about 10 when the family moved from Rockingham to Augusta County. In fact, the farm in Augusta Co. that they located to is no more than 10 miles or so (if that much) from the Rockingham Co. line. I guess the assumption now would be that Elizabeth married Jacob in 1843, and they were living in the household of his mother as late as 1850. If the Jacob Shiry/Shirey of the 1860 Census that was married to Lucy A. and that had a daughter, Sarah E., born in 1852 or 1853 was the same Jacob Shirey/Shiry that married Elizabeth M. Sellers in 1843, whatever became of or happened to Elizabeth occurred at some point between 1850 and 1852. Question now is, what happened, when, and where is she buried? I'm sounding like an annoying broken record, but I certainly appreciate your patience, help, and efforts! Michael -----Original Message----- From: Georgia Fletcher [mailto:chick@blzwire.com] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 10:40 AM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Sellers in Augusta County, Virginia Michael, if I remember correctly, on your earlier World Connect you had the Sellers from Rockingham County, Virginia. In 1850 Rockingham County, Virginia, I found the following: 1850 Rockingham County, Virginia 56 1/2 District Enumerated on November 14, 1850 Image 289 and 290 on Ancestry.com census records HH#449 Elizabeth Shiry,61, F, VA; Jacob Shiry, 22, M, VA, farmer; Elizabeth Shiry, 25, F, VA; Daniel Shiry, 20, M, VA Many times when they have the age out of sequence like this, it is because it is a daughter-in-law rather than a daughter. I realize the ages are slightly off but it does have Elizabeth as two years older than Jacob and your records show her two years older also. Don't discount this as being Elizabeth Magdalene Sellers Shirey until you can prove it is not. Am I correct about Rockingham County? Is it close to Augusta County? Georgia -----Original Message----- From: Sellers.Michael [mailto:msellers@acresgaming.com] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 8:16 AM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Sellers in Augusta County, Virginia Georgia, Thank you for the Census info. Elizabeth Magdalene Sellers was born March 24, 1823, was a sister to Jerome H.B. Sellers, and both were indeed children of John Conrad Sellers and Catherine Brown. Elizabeth married Jacob Shirey on November 21, 1843. Beyond that, I have no other info concerning them. I have no record of any children and no record of what happened to them after that. Again, thank you for the effort in finding Jacob on the 1880 Census. That's the first info of any kind that I've really seen about him. Very much interested in anything additional that you can magically find about them :-) Thanks for all your efforts and assistance. Its been greatly appreciated! Michael -----Original Message----- From: Georgia Fletcher [mailto:chick@blzwire.com] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 07:15 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] Sellers in Augusta County, Virginia 1880 Augusta County, Beverly Manor Township, Virginia Jacob Shirey, W, M, 55, farmer, VA; Lucy A. Shirey, W, F, 57, VA Michael, you said you could not find what happened to Elizabeth Magadelene Sellers that married Jacob Shirey. I would venture to say that she has died by 1880 and Jacob is married to a Lucy A. Unknown. I'll try earlier census records and see if he is married to Elizabeth M. Sellers. Elizabeth Magadelene Sellers born March 1823, Augusta County, Virginia, is a sister to Jerome H. B. Sellers, children of John Conrad Sellers and Catherine Brown. Georgia

Michael, if I remember correctly, on your earlier World Connect you had the Sellers from Rockingham County, Virginia. In 1850 Rockingham County, Virginia, I found the following: 1850 Rockingham County, Virginia 56 1/2 District Enumerated on November 14, 1850 Image 289 and 290 on Ancestry.com census records HH#449 Elizabeth Shiry,61, F, VA; Jacob Shiry, 22, M, VA, farmer; Elizabeth Shiry, 25, F, VA; Daniel Shiry, 20, M, VA Many times when they have the age out of sequence like this, it is because it is a daughter-in-law rather than a daughter. I realize the ages are slightly off but it does have Elizabeth as two years older than Jacob and your records show her two years older also. Don't discount this as being Elizabeth Magdalene Sellers Shirey until you can prove it is not. Am I correct about Rockingham County? Is it close to Augusta County? Georgia -----Original Message----- From: Sellers.Michael [mailto:msellers@acresgaming.com] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 8:16 AM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Sellers in Augusta County, Virginia Georgia, Thank you for the Census info. Elizabeth Magdalene Sellers was born March 24, 1823, was a sister to Jerome H.B. Sellers, and both were indeed children of John Conrad Sellers and Catherine Brown. Elizabeth married Jacob Shirey on November 21, 1843. Beyond that, I have no other info concerning them. I have no record of any children and no record of what happened to them after that. Again, thank you for the effort in finding Jacob on the 1880 Census. That's the first info of any kind that I've really seen about him. Very much interested in anything additional that you can magically find about them :-) Thanks for all your efforts and assistance. Its been greatly appreciated! Michael -----Original Message----- From: Georgia Fletcher [mailto:chick@blzwire.com] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 07:15 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] Sellers in Augusta County, Virginia 1880 Augusta County, Beverly Manor Township, Virginia Jacob Shirey, W, M, 55, farmer, VA; Lucy A. Shirey, W, F, 57, VA Michael, you said you could not find what happened to Elizabeth Magadelene Sellers that married Jacob Shirey. I would venture to say that she has died by 1880 and Jacob is married to a Lucy A. Unknown. I'll try earlier census records and see if he is married to Elizabeth M. Sellers. Elizabeth Magadelene Sellers born March 1823, Augusta County, Virginia, is a sister to Jerome H. B. Sellers, children of John Conrad Sellers and Catherine Brown. Georgia

Georgia, I found Jacob and family listed on the 1860 Augusta County Census as part of the "Valley of the Shadow" website's info. 1860 Augusta County, North Subdivision, Virginia Page #1000, Dwelling #1260, Family #1265 Jacob Shirey, W, M, 33 Day Laborer Lucie A. Shirey, W, F, 40 Sarah E. Shirey, W, F, 7 Mary J. Shirey, W, F, 4 Jacob F.E. Shirey, W, M, 1 Elizabeth Shirey, W, F, 72 It appears that this is the same Jacob and Lucy that we've found on the 1870 and 1880 Augusta County Census. In 1860, however, it appears that they had another, older daughter, Sarah E. Shirey, and Jacob's mother, Elizabeth, was also living with them. Sarah does not appear on any Census after 1860, so that leaves me wondering what happened to her. The 1860 Census info would push Jacob and Lucy's marriage date back to at least 1852 since daughter Sarah appears as age 7. If this Jacob Shirey is the one that originally married Elizabeth Magdalene Sellers, then we're down to basically a 10 year window of trying to determine what happened to Elizabeth between her marriage to Jacob in 1843 and his marriage and child with Lucy A. by 1852 or 1853. I have not been able to locate Jacob on the 1850 Augusta County Census .... Michael -----Original Message----- From: Sellers.Michael Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 09:18 AM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Sellers in Augusta County, Virginia Georgia, I was able to find Jacob on the 1870 Augusta County, Virginia, Census. Last name was spelled as "Shiry". 1870 Augusta County, Mount Sidney Post Office, Virginia Page 91, Line #27, Dwelling #635, Family #634 Jacob Shiry, W, M, 46, Farmer Lucy A. Shiry, W, F, 48, Keeping House Mary J. Shiry, W, F, 14 Jacob T.E. Shiry, W, M, 11 It would appear by this that this Jacob Shiry and wife Lucy A. were married by at least 1855 or 1856 since their daughter Mary J. was 14 on the Census. Hopefully, we can find Jacob in an even earlier Census and/or info pertaining to what happened to Elizabeth if indeed this Jacob is/was her husband. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Georgia Fletcher [mailto:chick@blzwire.com] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 07:15 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] Sellers in Augusta County, Virginia 1880 Augusta County, Beverly Manor Township, Virginia Jacob Shirey, W, M, 55, farmer, VA; Lucy A. Shirey, W, F, 57, VA Michael, you said you could not find what happened to Elizabeth Magadelene Sellers that married Jacob Shirey. I would venture to say that she has died by 1880 and Jacob is married to a Lucy A. Unknown. I'll try earlier census records and see if he is married to Elizabeth M. Sellers. Elizabeth Magadelene Sellers born March 1823, Augusta County, Virginia, is a sister to Jerome H. B. Sellers, children of John Conrad Sellers and Catherine Brown. Georgia

Georgia, I was able to find Jacob on the 1870 Augusta County, Virginia, Census. Last name was spelled as "Shiry". 1870 Augusta County, Mount Sidney Post Office, Virginia Page 91, Line #27, Dwelling #635, Family #634 Jacob Shiry, W, M, 46, Farmer Lucy A. Shiry, W, F, 48, Keeping House Mary J. Shiry, W, F, 14 Jacob T.E. Shiry, W, M, 11 It would appear by this that this Jacob Shiry and wife Lucy A. were married by at least 1855 or 1856 since their daughter Mary J. was 14 on the Census. Hopefully, we can find Jacob in an even earlier Census and/or info pertaining to what happened to Elizabeth if indeed this Jacob is/was her husband. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Georgia Fletcher [mailto:chick@blzwire.com] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 07:15 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] Sellers in Augusta County, Virginia 1880 Augusta County, Beverly Manor Township, Virginia Jacob Shirey, W, M, 55, farmer, VA; Lucy A. Shirey, W, F, 57, VA Michael, you said you could not find what happened to Elizabeth Magadelene Sellers that married Jacob Shirey. I would venture to say that she has died by 1880 and Jacob is married to a Lucy A. Unknown. I'll try earlier census records and see if he is married to Elizabeth M. Sellers. Elizabeth Magadelene Sellers born March 1823, Augusta County, Virginia, is a sister to Jerome H. B. Sellers, children of John Conrad Sellers and Catherine Brown. Georgia

Georgia, Thank you for the Census info. Elizabeth Magdalene Sellers was born March 24, 1823, was a sister to Jerome H.B. Sellers, and both were indeed children of John Conrad Sellers and Catherine Brown. Elizabeth married Jacob Shirey on November 21, 1843. Beyond that, I have no other info concerning them. I have no record of any children and no record of what happened to them after that. Again, thank you for the effort in finding Jacob on the 1880 Census. That's the first info of any kind that I've really seen about him. Very much interested in anything additional that you can magically find about them :-) Thanks for all your efforts and assistance. Its been greatly appreciated! Michael -----Original Message----- From: Georgia Fletcher [mailto:chick@blzwire.com] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 07:15 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] Sellers in Augusta County, Virginia 1880 Augusta County, Beverly Manor Township, Virginia Jacob Shirey, W, M, 55, farmer, VA; Lucy A. Shirey, W, F, 57, VA Michael, you said you could not find what happened to Elizabeth Magadelene Sellers that married Jacob Shirey. I would venture to say that she has died by 1880 and Jacob is married to a Lucy A. Unknown. I'll try earlier census records and see if he is married to Elizabeth M. Sellers. Elizabeth Magadelene Sellers born March 1823, Augusta County, Virginia, is a sister to Jerome H. B. Sellers, children of John Conrad Sellers and Catherine Brown. Georgia