In a message dated 10/29/2003 6:00:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, chick@blzwire.com writes: So is Eldred Sellers the older male in the family? This would make him born 1761-1770. The other older male is born 1771-1780. I read this as a widower with his son and son's family in the household. According to my records, this Eldred Sellers is the father of Almon(d) Lewis Sellers. He was born "about 1770". The female (age 50-60) in the household is Eldred's wife Penelope, born 1770-1779. Eldred's father was James Sellers, born NC 1736-1737. Eldred's siblings are James Jr., born 1765-1769, Nathaniel, born 1765-1770, Lewis, born 1774-1775, Two unknown males, born 1774-1784, and Willets, born about 1778. I got this info from other researchers, and have not independently proven it. Hope it helps. -Ed Hudson

oct 30, 2003 Family Tree DNA for Sellers. Your group has 7 members and 3 kits have been returned and Pending Shipment to Lab. last update from FT DNA. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: Carole S. Walker [mailto:mott@cetlink.net] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 11:45 AM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] DNA - SELLERS We mailed to FTDNA the DNA test today and the authorization for Marie to post the results, for my brother, Howard Terry Sellers. Carole Sellers Walker A new cousin a day, keeps the boredom away!

We mailed to FTDNA the DNA test today and the authorization for Marie to post the results, for my brother, Howard Terry Sellers. Carole Sellers Walker A new cousin a day, keeps the boredom away!

Did these Sellers and Feagins live Indiana? S ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Sellers-Hollinger" <mari@netins.net> To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:29 PM Subject: RE: FW: [SELLERS] FW: cherokee indian chief:CHEROKEE, NC > ROSELLA, we need AGES and places of someone = > FRANK SELLERS age or his kids=? > where Born/Died/Married = any info you have on DATES and PLACES. > marie, iowa > -----Original Message----- > From: Blonderosella@aol.com [mailto:Blonderosella@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:20 PM > To: mari@netins.net > Subject: Re: FW: [SELLERS] FW: cherokee indian chief:CHEROKEE, NC > > > >> Hello Marie, > >> I'm sorry :( , can't say I do know of any doctors down through the > Sellers > >> ancestry; Just that 4 great grandfathers back to me, was : > Cherokee Indian Chief of Tribe- Elrin Cambel Sellers > His Son- - - - - Frank Sellers > Mother of Frank- - - -Frances Sellers > Daughter of Frances - - - - Gazelle (changed to Grace) > Hardy (my great > (grandmother, knew > her and saw her) > Daughter of Grace - - - - - - Eula Mae (became last name > Feagin) (my > grandmother) > Daughter of Eula Mae & Leonard Feagin-- Frances (my mom) > Then of course, yours truly, daughter of Frances (self, > Rosella) > >> Wish I could help you Mari > >> I know my grandfather is in the books of Cherokee Ancestry in N.C.; but > I can't > >> use c/cards, and that is only way on line they show access to info. Or > go there > >> in person. My aunt said he was well known Chief Sellers. Your Ancestry > Mari is > >> most impressive. Ty for email. Take care. > >> May God Bless You for being kind and taking the time to email me. Bye. > >> I am in Florida/USA. > >> > >> Sincerely, Rosella > >

Kremnetz wrote: >I found a land patent for Eatheldred Sellers state of Alabama - 1845 - 40 >acres. (www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch) I was wondering about this as >in my records I show the date of death of Almon's father Eldred as 1834 >(don't recall where I got this information). > from the internet site http://showcase.netins.net/web/sellerfamily/eldred.htm Dec 1834 Brunswick Co, NC, ALMOND L. SELLERS appointed Adm for the estate of ETHELRED SELLERS, dec'd whose wife was Penelope. >It appears that the Almon >Sellers family went to Alabama somewhere between 1836 and 1839 (Solomon >Reeves was the first child born in AL and that was Jan 1839. So perhaps >there was an Eldred who was a Almon sibling, cousin, or what have you... >PattieK > > >

GINA, thank you for sharing. MANY will appreciate pictures, etc. IDEAS to check and follow thro on. marie, iowa http://showcase.netins.net/web/sellers2/james_susansellers1843_1923.htm.jpg http://showcase.netins.net/web/sellers2/gurley_sellers1802_1898.htm.jpg -----Original Message----- From: Glenn-Gina Schiazza [mailto:gschia6719@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 10:30 AM To: Marie (Sellers) Hollinger Subject: Jefferson County, AL Sellers pag 773 Hi Marie, I found two articles in The Heritage of Jefferson County, Alabama Vo. #37. I hope this helps. Gina (Pruitt) Schiazza gschia6719@earthlink.net http://showcase.netins.net/web/sellers2/james_susansellers1843_1923.htm.jp g http://showcase.netins.net/web/sellers2/gurley_sellers1802_1898.htm.jpg

ROSELLA, we need AGES and places of someone = FRANK SELLERS age or his kids=? where Born/Died/Married = any info you have on DATES and PLACES. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: Blonderosella@aol.com [mailto:Blonderosella@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:20 PM To: mari@netins.net Subject: Re: FW: [SELLERS] FW: cherokee indian chief:CHEROKEE, NC >> Hello Marie, >> I'm sorry :( , can't say I do know of any doctors down through the Sellers >> ancestry; Just that 4 great grandfathers back to me, was : Cherokee Indian Chief of Tribe- Elrin Cambel Sellers His Son- - - - - Frank Sellers Mother of Frank- - - -Frances Sellers Daughter of Frances - - - - Gazelle (changed to Grace) Hardy (my great (grandmother, knew her and saw her) Daughter of Grace - - - - - - Eula Mae (became last name Feagin) (my grandmother) Daughter of Eula Mae & Leonard Feagin-- Frances (my mom) Then of course, yours truly, daughter of Frances (self, Rosella) >> Wish I could help you Mari >> I know my grandfather is in the books of Cherokee Ancestry in N.C.; but I can't >> use c/cards, and that is only way on line they show access to info. Or go there >> in person. My aunt said he was well known Chief Sellers. Your Ancestry Mari is >> most impressive. Ty for email. Take care. >> May God Bless You for being kind and taking the time to email me. Bye. >> I am in Florida/USA. >> >> Sincerely, Rosella

I've recently heard from a cousin that our ancestor, Abraham Jesse/Lenda Sellers, born in Pennsylvania, either he was the immigrant, or his father was...but that the original name was von Scheller of Germany.. and it was changed to Sellers in America. Now, the question is, has anyone on the list also heard this? Also, could the name have been also Zeller, Keller, Ciller...etc? I'd be interested in hearing some discussion along these lines. Ann K.

-----Original Message----- From: Tiki1967@aol.com [mailto:Tiki1967@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 1:08 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} direct decendent of calvin "collie" sellers maury county im stuck and would like to to further research my forefathers as to what country we go back to and their parts in history. I have the following: calvin sellers married minnie payton calvin is the son of anna brown and william sellers (whom was living with calvin and minnie in fulton county kentucky and was crippled in1910) william sellers is the son of james y sellers (what does the y stand for) and the other i dont know and seems mary j hill was his second wife. james y sellers parents were isaac and judah johnson (whom i trace judah back to scotland) issaac was the son of james t sellers and patience parker. my question is who is james t sellers parents? any help would be greatly appreciated. james y sellers

My experience has been that if the name was originally 'Zeller' prior to becoming 'Sellers', then it designated that the line was of German descent. That is the case for my line as my 6 Great Grandfather was Heinrich Zeller. Born in Mottgers, Hesse, Germany in 1704, he and the family emigrated to America in 1738 when they landed in Philadelphia. My same experience has been that if the name was Sellers when they arrived in America, then they were usually of Anglican descent from England, Ireland, Scotland, etc., ie, non-German. I've seen the name misspelled in various records as Siller, Sellar, Keller, Ciller, etc. Personally, I've never seen nor heard of the name "von Scheller", but stranger things have happened ... Michael Sellers -----Original Message----- From: AKent616@aol.com [mailto:AKent616@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 03:49 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] Sellers, Abraham I've recently heard from a cousin that our ancestor, Abraham Jesse/Lenda Sellers, born in Pennsylvania, either he was the immigrant, or his father was...but that the original name was von Scheller of Germany.. and it was changed to Sellers in America. Now, the question is, has anyone on the list also heard this? Also, could the name have been also Zeller, Keller, Ciller...etc? I'd be interested in hearing some discussion along these lines. Ann K.

1820 Brunswick County, North Carolina Joel Reeves 3 males under 10 years of age; 1 male 26 and under 45; 3 females under 10 years of age; 1 female 26 and under 45 exactly next door is Lew? Sellers (this is indexed as Sue Sellers but it looks like Lew to me - perhaps for Lewis?) 1 male under 10 years; 2 males 10 and under 16; 1 male 45 years and up; 2 females under 10 years; 1 female 16 and under 26; 1 female 45 years and up on same page but several households away Eldred Sellers 1 male under 10 years; 1 male 10 and under 16 (Almon Lewis Sellers); 1 male 45 years and up; 2 females under 10 years; 1 female 16 and under 26; 1 female 26 and under 45 several households away from Eldred Sellers Willis Sellers 2 males under 10 years; 1 male 10 and under 16; 1 male 26 and under 45; 2 females under 10; 1 female 26 and under 45 All of these Sellers are on the same page in 1820 Brunswick County, NC census. Georgia

1830 Brunswick County, North Carolina Eldred Sellars 1 male 10 and under 15 1 male 50 and under 60 1 male 60 and under 70 1 female 15 and under 20 1 female 50 and under 60 So is Eldred Sellers the older male in the family? This would make him born 1761-1770. The other older male is born 1771-1780. I read this as a widower with his son and son's family in the household. next door is Almund Sellars 1 male under 5 years of age 1 male 20 and under 30 1 female 20 and under 30 a few doors away is Henry S. Sellars 1 male 20 and under 30 2 females under 5 years of age 2 females 5 and under 10 1 female 20 and under 30 There are other Sellers in 1830 Brunswick County, NC - these were just on the same page of the census. Georgia -----Original Message----- From: Kremnetz [mailto:kremnetz@jps.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 2:42 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx Hmm...interesting. I found a land patent for Eatheldred Sellers state of Alabama - 1845 - 40 acres. (www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch) I was wondering about this as in my records I show the date of death of Almon's father Eldred as 1834 (don't recall where I got this information). It appears that the Almon Sellers family went to Alabama somewhere between 1836 and 1839 (Solomon Reeves was the first child born in AL and that was Jan 1839. So perhaps there was an Eldred who was a Almon sibling, cousin, or what have you... PattieK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgia Fletcher" <chick@blzwire.com> To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 2:18 PM Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > I went back to my notes and it was in 1840 Pike County, AL there id a > Eldred or Ethelred Sellers born between 1811-1820 and I wonder if he > is not a brother to Almon Lewis Sellers since the age would be > appropriate. I would say he is a brother or first cousin to Almon. > > Georgia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kremnetz [mailto:kremnetz@jps.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 2:07 PM > To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > > > The only Eldred's I know of (at least in this branch of Sellers) are > Eldred or Ethelred father of Almon Lewis Sellers (not sure of this > Eldred's birth date - "possibly" between 1770/1775) and Edmund Eldred > (E.E.) son of Almon Lewis, born 1830. > > PattieK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Georgia Fletcher" <chick@blzwire.com> > To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 1:48 PM > Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > > > > The Eldred Sellers in 1830 Brunswick County, NC - is he a Junior or > > is > > > it Senior? If I recall, he is too young to be the father so I > > assumed > > > he was a Junior. > > > > Georgia > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kremnetz [mailto:kremnetz@jps.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 1:26 PM > > To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > > > > > > Thank you Pat. I will check the 1830 NC census record again. PattieK > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pat Borden" <pat11138@socal.rr.com> > > To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 3:13 PM > > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > > > > > > > I believe that Almon married Martha Franklin in Coryell County, TX > > > after the death of Prudence (March 03, 1808-Sept. 8, 1869). The > > > middle > > > > > name for Prudence is from Sellers family knowledge according to > > > Neel > > > > and Barefoot Family Association contact ... Betty McDougald > > > bettym@houston.rr.com . Find Almon L Sellars on the 1850 Pike > > > County > > > > Ala census; page 242. No slaves listed. ancestry image 220 of > > > 294 > > > > lists Almon L. ; Prudence; Edmund; Mary; Christopher; Solomon; > > > Joel; > > > > Sarah; Elizabeth; John. Find Almond Sellars and Eldred Sellars on > > > 1830 Brunswick N.C. census; page 317A&B. Eldred owns slaves. 1 > > > male and 2 females under 10 along with 1 male and 1 female =24 but > > > less than age 36. Almond does not > > have > > > slaves ... perhaps he lives with his father Eldred and shares the > > > slaves. ancestry.com images13 & 14 of 46. 1840 census Pike > > > county, Alabama; Almon Sellars had no slaves listed. > > 4 > > > males and 3 females in household. ancestry.com image 11 & 12 of > > > 94. > > > > Pat Borden > > > > > > Kremnetz wrote: > > > > > > >You are correct. Almon did marry Martha Franklin in 1871. > > > > > > > >I looked at those census records you mentioned and don't recall > > > >seeing > > any > > > >mention of slaves...at least I did not document it in my records > > > >as > > such - > > > >and I wanted to know about that. Did I miss where it was stated > > > >on the record? > > > > > > > >Thank you, > > > >PattieK > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: <ApalacheeB@aol.com> > > > >To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 9:44 PM > > > >Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>In a message dated 10/21/2003 8:57:53 AM Central Standard Time, > > > >>kremnetz@jps.net writes: I am curious where is found a middle > > > >>name > > > > >>for Prudence. In any > > > >> > > > >> > > > >documentation > > > > > > > > > > > >>I have seen no middle name is listed for her. > > > >> > > > >>Also, about the slaves....keep hearing they had slaves, but I > > > >>have > > > > >>seen > > no > > > >>documentation that says they did. > > > >> > > > >>Can anyone answer these 2 questions? > > > >>Not sure where I found that information but I know I found some > > > >>in > > > > >>the following census: Almond Sellers was in 1830 Brunswick > > > >>County, > > > > >>NC census page 317 line 5 1840 census Pike Co, AL 1850 census > > > >>Pike > > > > >>Co. AL 1860 census Coryell Co. Texas page 292 line 394 > > > >> > > > >> I also have that he married Martha T. Franklin on June 4, > > > >> 1871. She > > was > > > >>born 1832 in Mississippi. > > > >> Ann Robbins > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hmm...interesting. I found a land patent for Eatheldred Sellers state of Alabama - 1845 - 40 acres. (www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch) I was wondering about this as in my records I show the date of death of Almon's father Eldred as 1834 (don't recall where I got this information). It appears that the Almon Sellers family went to Alabama somewhere between 1836 and 1839 (Solomon Reeves was the first child born in AL and that was Jan 1839. So perhaps there was an Eldred who was a Almon sibling, cousin, or what have you... PattieK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgia Fletcher" <chick@blzwire.com> To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 2:18 PM Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > I went back to my notes and it was in 1840 Pike County, AL there id a > Eldred or Ethelred Sellers born between 1811-1820 and I wonder if he is > not a brother to Almon Lewis Sellers since the age would be appropriate. > I would say he is a brother or first cousin to Almon. > > Georgia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kremnetz [mailto:kremnetz@jps.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 2:07 PM > To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > > > The only Eldred's I know of (at least in this branch of Sellers) are > Eldred or Ethelred father of Almon Lewis Sellers (not sure of this > Eldred's birth date - "possibly" between 1770/1775) and Edmund Eldred > (E.E.) son of Almon Lewis, born 1830. > > PattieK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Georgia Fletcher" <chick@blzwire.com> > To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 1:48 PM > Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > > > > The Eldred Sellers in 1830 Brunswick County, NC - is he a Junior or is > > > it Senior? If I recall, he is too young to be the father so I assumed > > > he was a Junior. > > > > Georgia > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kremnetz [mailto:kremnetz@jps.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 1:26 PM > > To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > > > > > > Thank you Pat. I will check the 1830 NC census record again. PattieK > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pat Borden" <pat11138@socal.rr.com> > > To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 3:13 PM > > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > > > > > > > I believe that Almon married Martha Franklin in Coryell County, TX > > > after the death of Prudence (March 03, 1808-Sept. 8, 1869). The > > > middle > > > > > name for Prudence is from Sellers family knowledge according to Neel > > > > and Barefoot Family Association contact ... Betty McDougald > > > bettym@houston.rr.com . Find Almon L Sellars on the 1850 Pike County > > > > Ala census; page 242. No slaves listed. ancestry image 220 of 294 > > > > lists Almon L. ; Prudence; Edmund; Mary; Christopher; Solomon; Joel; > > > > Sarah; Elizabeth; John. Find Almond Sellars and Eldred Sellars on > > > 1830 Brunswick N.C. census; page 317A&B. Eldred owns slaves. 1 > > > male and 2 females under 10 along with 1 male and 1 female =24 but > > > less than age 36. Almond does not > > have > > > slaves ... perhaps he lives with his father Eldred and shares the > > > slaves. ancestry.com images13 & 14 of 46. 1840 census Pike county, > > > Alabama; Almon Sellars had no slaves listed. > > 4 > > > males and 3 females in household. ancestry.com image 11 & 12 of 94. > > > > Pat Borden > > > > > > Kremnetz wrote: > > > > > > >You are correct. Almon did marry Martha Franklin in 1871. > > > > > > > >I looked at those census records you mentioned and don't recall > > > >seeing > > any > > > >mention of slaves...at least I did not document it in my records as > > such - > > > >and I wanted to know about that. Did I miss where it was stated on > > > >the record? > > > > > > > >Thank you, > > > >PattieK > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: <ApalacheeB@aol.com> > > > >To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 9:44 PM > > > >Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>In a message dated 10/21/2003 8:57:53 AM Central Standard Time, > > > >>kremnetz@jps.net writes: I am curious where is found a middle name > > > > >>for Prudence. In any > > > >> > > > >> > > > >documentation > > > > > > > > > > > >>I have seen no middle name is listed for her. > > > >> > > > >>Also, about the slaves....keep hearing they had slaves, but I have > > > > >>seen > > no > > > >>documentation that says they did. > > > >> > > > >>Can anyone answer these 2 questions? > > > >>Not sure where I found that information but I know I found some in > > > > >>the following census: Almond Sellers was in 1830 Brunswick County, > > > > >>NC census page 317 line 5 1840 census Pike Co, AL 1850 census Pike > > > > >>Co. AL 1860 census Coryell Co. Texas page 292 line 394 > > > >> > > > >> I also have that he married Martha T. Franklin on June 4, 1871. > > > >> She > > was > > > >>born 1832 in Mississippi. > > > >> Ann Robbins > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I went back to my notes and it was in 1840 Pike County, AL there id a Eldred or Ethelred Sellers born between 1811-1820 and I wonder if he is not a brother to Almon Lewis Sellers since the age would be appropriate. I would say he is a brother or first cousin to Almon. Georgia -----Original Message----- From: Kremnetz [mailto:kremnetz@jps.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 2:07 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx The only Eldred's I know of (at least in this branch of Sellers) are Eldred or Ethelred father of Almon Lewis Sellers (not sure of this Eldred's birth date - "possibly" between 1770/1775) and Edmund Eldred (E.E.) son of Almon Lewis, born 1830. PattieK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgia Fletcher" <chick@blzwire.com> To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 1:48 PM Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > The Eldred Sellers in 1830 Brunswick County, NC - is he a Junior or is > it Senior? If I recall, he is too young to be the father so I assumed > he was a Junior. > > Georgia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kremnetz [mailto:kremnetz@jps.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 1:26 PM > To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > > > Thank you Pat. I will check the 1830 NC census record again. PattieK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Borden" <pat11138@socal.rr.com> > To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 3:13 PM > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > > > > I believe that Almon married Martha Franklin in Coryell County, TX > > after the death of Prudence (March 03, 1808-Sept. 8, 1869). The > > middle > > > name for Prudence is from Sellers family knowledge according to Neel > > and Barefoot Family Association contact ... Betty McDougald > > bettym@houston.rr.com . Find Almon L Sellars on the 1850 Pike County > > Ala census; page 242. No slaves listed. ancestry image 220 of 294 > > lists Almon L. ; Prudence; Edmund; Mary; Christopher; Solomon; Joel; > > Sarah; Elizabeth; John. Find Almond Sellars and Eldred Sellars on > > 1830 Brunswick N.C. census; page 317A&B. Eldred owns slaves. 1 > > male and 2 females under 10 along with 1 male and 1 female =24 but > > less than age 36. Almond does not > have > > slaves ... perhaps he lives with his father Eldred and shares the > > slaves. ancestry.com images13 & 14 of 46. 1840 census Pike county, > > Alabama; Almon Sellars had no slaves listed. > 4 > > males and 3 females in household. ancestry.com image 11 & 12 of 94. > > Pat Borden > > > > Kremnetz wrote: > > > > >You are correct. Almon did marry Martha Franklin in 1871. > > > > > >I looked at those census records you mentioned and don't recall > > >seeing > any > > >mention of slaves...at least I did not document it in my records as > such - > > >and I wanted to know about that. Did I miss where it was stated on > > >the record? > > > > > >Thank you, > > >PattieK > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: <ApalacheeB@aol.com> > > >To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 9:44 PM > > >Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>In a message dated 10/21/2003 8:57:53 AM Central Standard Time, > > >>kremnetz@jps.net writes: I am curious where is found a middle name > > >>for Prudence. In any > > >> > > >> > > >documentation > > > > > > > > >>I have seen no middle name is listed for her. > > >> > > >>Also, about the slaves....keep hearing they had slaves, but I have > > >>seen > no > > >>documentation that says they did. > > >> > > >>Can anyone answer these 2 questions? > > >>Not sure where I found that information but I know I found some in > > >>the following census: Almond Sellers was in 1830 Brunswick County, > > >>NC census page 317 line 5 1840 census Pike Co, AL 1850 census Pike > > >>Co. AL 1860 census Coryell Co. Texas page 292 line 394 > > >> > > >> I also have that he married Martha T. Franklin on June 4, 1871. > > >> She > was > > >>born 1832 in Mississippi. > > >> Ann Robbins > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

The only Eldred's I know of (at least in this branch of Sellers) are Eldred or Ethelred father of Almon Lewis Sellers (not sure of this Eldred's birth date - "possibly" between 1770/1775) and Edmund Eldred (E.E.) son of Almon Lewis, born 1830. PattieK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgia Fletcher" <chick@blzwire.com> To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 1:48 PM Subject: RE: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > The Eldred Sellers in 1830 Brunswick County, NC - is he a Junior or is > it Senior? If I recall, he is too young to be the father so I assumed > he was a Junior. > > Georgia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kremnetz [mailto:kremnetz@jps.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 1:26 PM > To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > > > Thank you Pat. I will check the 1830 NC census record again. PattieK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Borden" <pat11138@socal.rr.com> > To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 3:13 PM > Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > > > > I believe that Almon married Martha Franklin in Coryell County, TX > > after the death of Prudence (March 03, 1808-Sept. 8, 1869). The middle > > > name for Prudence is from Sellers family knowledge according to Neel > > and Barefoot Family Association contact ... Betty McDougald > > bettym@houston.rr.com . Find Almon L Sellars on the 1850 Pike County > > Ala census; page 242. No slaves listed. ancestry image 220 of 294 > > lists Almon L. ; Prudence; Edmund; Mary; Christopher; Solomon; Joel; > > Sarah; Elizabeth; John. > > Find Almond Sellars and Eldred Sellars on 1830 Brunswick N.C. census; > > page 317A&B. Eldred owns slaves. 1 male and 2 females under 10 along > > with 1 male and 1 female =24 but less than age 36. Almond does not > have > > slaves ... perhaps he lives with his father Eldred and shares the > > slaves. ancestry.com images13 & 14 of 46. > > 1840 census Pike county, Alabama; Almon Sellars had no slaves listed. > 4 > > males and 3 females in household. ancestry.com image 11 & 12 of 94. > > Pat Borden > > > > Kremnetz wrote: > > > > >You are correct. Almon did marry Martha Franklin in 1871. > > > > > >I looked at those census records you mentioned and don't recall > > >seeing > any > > >mention of slaves...at least I did not document it in my records as > such - > > >and I wanted to know about that. Did I miss where it was stated on > > >the record? > > > > > >Thank you, > > >PattieK > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: <ApalacheeB@aol.com> > > >To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 9:44 PM > > >Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>In a message dated 10/21/2003 8:57:53 AM Central Standard Time, > > >>kremnetz@jps.net writes: I am curious where is found a middle name > > >>for Prudence. In any > > >> > > >> > > >documentation > > > > > > > > >>I have seen no middle name is listed for her. > > >> > > >>Also, about the slaves....keep hearing they had slaves, but I have > > >>seen > no > > >>documentation that says they did. > > >> > > >>Can anyone answer these 2 questions? > > >>Not sure where I found that information but I know I found some in > > >>the following census: Almond Sellers was in 1830 Brunswick County, > > >>NC census page 317 line 5 1840 census Pike Co, AL > > >>1850 census Pike Co. AL > > >>1860 census Coryell Co. Texas page 292 line 394 > > >> > > >> I also have that he married Martha T. Franklin on June 4, 1871. > > >> She > was > > >>born 1832 in Mississippi. > > >> Ann Robbins > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

The Eldred Sellers in 1830 Brunswick County, NC - is he a Junior or is it Senior? If I recall, he is too young to be the father so I assumed he was a Junior. Georgia -----Original Message----- From: Kremnetz [mailto:kremnetz@jps.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 1:26 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx Thank you Pat. I will check the 1830 NC census record again. PattieK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Borden" <pat11138@socal.rr.com> To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > I believe that Almon married Martha Franklin in Coryell County, TX > after the death of Prudence (March 03, 1808-Sept. 8, 1869). The middle > name for Prudence is from Sellers family knowledge according to Neel > and Barefoot Family Association contact ... Betty McDougald > bettym@houston.rr.com . Find Almon L Sellars on the 1850 Pike County > Ala census; page 242. No slaves listed. ancestry image 220 of 294 > lists Almon L. ; Prudence; Edmund; Mary; Christopher; Solomon; Joel; > Sarah; Elizabeth; John. > Find Almond Sellars and Eldred Sellars on 1830 Brunswick N.C. census; > page 317A&B. Eldred owns slaves. 1 male and 2 females under 10 along > with 1 male and 1 female =24 but less than age 36. Almond does not have > slaves ... perhaps he lives with his father Eldred and shares the > slaves. ancestry.com images13 & 14 of 46. > 1840 census Pike county, Alabama; Almon Sellars had no slaves listed. 4 > males and 3 females in household. ancestry.com image 11 & 12 of 94. > Pat Borden > > Kremnetz wrote: > > >You are correct. Almon did marry Martha Franklin in 1871. > > > >I looked at those census records you mentioned and don't recall > >seeing any > >mention of slaves...at least I did not document it in my records as such - > >and I wanted to know about that. Did I miss where it was stated on > >the record? > > > >Thank you, > >PattieK > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <ApalacheeB@aol.com> > >To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 9:44 PM > >Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > > > > > > > > > >>In a message dated 10/21/2003 8:57:53 AM Central Standard Time, > >>kremnetz@jps.net writes: I am curious where is found a middle name > >>for Prudence. In any > >> > >> > >documentation > > > > > >>I have seen no middle name is listed for her. > >> > >>Also, about the slaves....keep hearing they had slaves, but I have > >>seen no > >>documentation that says they did. > >> > >>Can anyone answer these 2 questions? > >>Not sure where I found that information but I know I found some in > >>the following census: Almond Sellers was in 1830 Brunswick County, > >>NC census page 317 line 5 1840 census Pike Co, AL > >>1850 census Pike Co. AL > >>1860 census Coryell Co. Texas page 292 line 394 > >> > >> I also have that he married Martha T. Franklin on June 4, 1871. > >> She was > >>born 1832 in Mississippi. > >> Ann Robbins > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >

Thank you Pat. I will check the 1830 NC census record again. PattieK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Borden" <pat11138@socal.rr.com> To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > I believe that Almon married Martha Franklin in Coryell County, TX after > the death of Prudence (March 03, 1808-Sept. 8, 1869). > The middle name for Prudence is from Sellers family knowledge according > to Neel and Barefoot Family Association contact > ... Betty McDougald bettym@houston.rr.com . > Find Almon L Sellars on the 1850 Pike County Ala census; page 242. No > slaves listed. ancestry image 220 of 294 lists > Almon L. ; Prudence; Edmund; Mary; Christopher; Solomon; Joel; Sarah; > Elizabeth; John. > Find Almond Sellars and Eldred Sellars on 1830 Brunswick N.C. census; > page 317A&B. Eldred owns slaves. 1 male and 2 females under 10 along > with 1 male and 1 female =24 but less than age 36. Almond does not have > slaves ... perhaps he lives with his father Eldred and shares the > slaves. ancestry.com images13 & 14 of 46. > 1840 census Pike county, Alabama; Almon Sellars had no slaves listed. 4 > males and 3 females in household. ancestry.com image 11 & 12 of 94. > Pat Borden > > Kremnetz wrote: > > >You are correct. Almon did marry Martha Franklin in 1871. > > > >I looked at those census records you mentioned and don't recall seeing any > >mention of slaves...at least I did not document it in my records as such - > >and I wanted to know about that. Did I miss where it was stated on the > >record? > > > >Thank you, > >PattieK > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <ApalacheeB@aol.com> > >To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 9:44 PM > >Subject: Re: [SELLERS] Re: Sellers/Coryell Co. Tx > > > > > > > > > >>In a message dated 10/21/2003 8:57:53 AM Central Standard Time, > >>kremnetz@jps.net writes: > >>I am curious where is found a middle name for Prudence. In any > >> > >> > >documentation > > > > > >>I have seen no middle name is listed for her. > >> > >>Also, about the slaves....keep hearing they had slaves, but I have seen no > >>documentation that says they did. > >> > >>Can anyone answer these 2 questions? > >>Not sure where I found that information but I know I found some in the > >>following census: > >>Almond Sellers was in 1830 Brunswick County, NC census page 317 line 5 > >>1840 census Pike Co, AL > >>1850 census Pike Co. AL > >>1860 census Coryell Co. Texas page 292 line 394 > >> > >> I also have that he married Martha T. Franklin on June 4, 1871. She was > >>born 1832 in Mississippi. > >> Ann Robbins > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >

Rosella: This is amazing information about the Indian Chief. Many Sellers cousins have asked me if I have come across the information about our line having Indian blood. I have not discovered any because I cannot find the parents of our patriarch, DR. JOHN WARD SELLERS, b. 1825-27 ALABAMA, married to LYNIA JANE GODWIN, b. 1828-30 NC and marr. NOV 1845 in PIKE CO., AL. They were in TX by 1854 in CORYELL CO., TX, 1860 in WISE CO., TX, 1861-67 JACK CO., TX, 1870 CORYELL CO., TX, 1880 BURNET CO., TX, & he died visiting his oldest son, DR. MARVEL WHITNEY SELLERS, in GLORIETA, NM on Jan. 1, 1889. Both Doctors lived and worked around the many forts in TX and were related somehow to the other SELLERS in CORYELL CO., TX. Have you ever come across any info of a brother to some of your SELLERS' ancestors coming to TX and being a doctor? Thanks, Lynda Wyatt Green ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Sellers-Hollinger" <mari@netins.net> To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:35 PM Subject: [SELLERS] FW: cherokee indian chief:CHEROKEE, NC > ROSELLA, thanks. > > I would start with FRANK SELLERS = born when/where =- > kids born when /where= > and YOUR connection to him. > > YOU can still use your AUNT'S research for other info. > SHARE what you can. > marie, iowa > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Blonderosella@aol.com [mailto:Blonderosella@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 7:26 PM > To: SELLERS-admin@rootsweb.com > Subject: cherokee indian chief: > > > >> Hello, I'm searching for info regarding my great great great great (yes 4 > back) > >> grandfather, who was Chief of a Cherokee Indian Tribe in North Carolina; > my aunt > >> has traced family history and has seen his listing in archives in N.C., > yet i wanted > >> to find it on the internet, print it out. His name was > >> Elrin Cambel Sellers - died 1870 in Cherokee, North > Carolina, USA > >> believe name of wife was > fannie marian died > >> 1810 in N.C. also. > >> Son of Chief Sellers was Frank Sellers (3 great > grandfathers back) > >> I would adore photo and info. Thank you for your time. > >> Sincerely, Rosella > >> Ft.Laud., USA > >> work add: 420 So.Dixie Hwy.,Hlwd.,Fl. 33020-4914 > >

In a message dated 10/27/2003 1:30:09 PM Central Standard Time, kremnetz@jps.net writes: I looked at those census records you mentioned and don't recall seeing any mention of slaves...at least I did not document it in my records as such - and I wanted to know about that. Did I miss where it was stated on the record? Probably not. I may have found it somewhere else. Check back with me in a few weeks and remind me to look again. I did not know how to attach my documentation to my FTW files until after I had put in about five years worth of research. Somewhere I have a paper file on this but have been re-organizing my paper files. Ann R.

ROSELLA, thanks. I would start with FRANK SELLERS = born when/where =- kids born when /where= and YOUR connection to him. YOU can still use your AUNT'S research for other info. SHARE what you can. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: Blonderosella@aol.com [mailto:Blonderosella@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 7:26 PM To: SELLERS-admin@rootsweb.com Subject: cherokee indian chief: >> Hello, I'm searching for info regarding my great great great great (yes 4 back) >> grandfather, who was Chief of a Cherokee Indian Tribe in North Carolina; my aunt >> has traced family history and has seen his listing in archives in N.C., yet i wanted >> to find it on the internet, print it out. His name was >> Elrin Cambel Sellers - died 1870 in Cherokee, North Carolina, USA >> believe name of wife was fannie marian died >> 1810 in N.C. also. >> Son of Chief Sellers was Frank Sellers (3 great grandfathers back) >> I would adore photo and info. Thank you for your time. >> Sincerely, Rosella >> Ft.Laud., USA >> work add: 420 So.Dixie Hwy.,Hlwd.,Fl. 33020-4914