This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JWGBAEB/1119 Message Board Post: Marie, I hope you received my e-mail. When we get enough information, we will post it as a family history tree. Gracie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JWGBAEB/1116.1 Message Board Post: GRACIE, thanks for sharing SELLERS. YOUR info came from where? obit, etc = advise= HAVE your read a 1900 census on your grandfather or father? YOUR father ALEXANDER married when and where/ who? = FIRST or ANY child born when/where= we NEED to FIND them in documents we have or available. THANKS. marie, iowa

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JWGBAEB/1116 Message Board Post: I am looking for any information on the Sellers line that had worked for sante fe railroad. My grandfather was a foreman in California. The children that I know about are (my father) Alexander(elik) Sellers.(b. 1891 Needles, California) Myrtle (Sellers)Bishop. Last known address(Pratt, Kansas) Mary (Sellers) Kas?ela. Last known address (Phoenix, Arizona) Gracie Sellers, (Blackwell, Okla)deceased.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JWGBAEB/1115 Message Board Post: I am looking for any information on the Sellers line that had worked for sante fe railroad. My grandfather was a foreman in California. The children that I know about are (my father) Alexander(elik) Sellers.(b. 1891 Needles, California) Myrtle (Sellers)Bishop. Last known address(Pratt, Kansas) Mary (Sellers) Kas?ela. Last known address (Phoenix, Arizona) Grace Sellers, (Blackwell, Okla)deceased.

JANICE, thank you. very interesting. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: Jiglee13@aol.com [mailto:Jiglee13@aol.com] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 7:14 AM To: "Marie Sellers-Hollinger" Subject: RE: genealogy/JOHN PARKER/SAMPSON CO, NC Thank you so very much for your help. I found your name and email address on the internet by listings of Sampson County, NC. I am descended from John's Daughter, Luraney Parker who married Gregory Clark. Greg Clark was recently "ousted" from the DAR because we have not been able to locate his military records either. His pension file exists but since he was denied a pension the DAR will not let any more people in on his line until we find a "military" record. Greg Clark and Luraney lived and died in Lexington County, SC and many of his descendants including myself are furious about the DAR discrediting him. Any help you all up there could give us would be appreciated. Thanks again, Janice Gartman Lee jiglee13@aol.com

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JANICE. How/Why did you find me? Unless a member of our SELLERS group may be able to help. I only have the REV war by Bizzell Book on Duplin and Sampson Co., NC and it does have errors. I just do look ups for SELLERS BUT, WE did have a lot of them in this area! This info does NOT list his captain, etc, so probably NOT from war records. Francis PARKER file doesn't list his either. WILLIAM PARKER = 7TH bATTALION UNDER cOL jAMES hOGAN. 5TH bATTALION , BOUNTY LAND #2090. There is a SESSOMS PARKER with pay voucher #1784 from Wilmington, but, no war record. may have just collected money for a loss, etc? and not served?? ======= JOHN PARKER, PRIVATE, NC MILITIA There are three JOHN PARKERS in the area of BLADEN, OLD DOBBS AND DUPLIN. JOHN PARKER militia voucher #168 from Wilmington District. JOHN PARKER of Sampson Co was father of large family. twons sons , Francis and William fought for Rev War. JOHN PARKERS WILL = ON MARCH 22, 1786 , PROBATED APRIL 23, 1800 = 1100 ACRES TO WIFE, NOT NAMED. CHILDREN = JOSIAH, JOHN JR, FRANCIS, WILLIAM MARRIED OCT 1 1806 REBECKA WILLIAMS, CURTIS, THOMAS, NICHOLUS, LUKE, ELIZABETH WHO MARRIED DEC 13, 1824 TO JACOB MOORE AND LURANEY WHO MARRIED CLARK. ON FEB 1806 SON NICHOLUS WITH A SESSUMS PARKER ASKS COURT TO APPOINT THEM EXECUTORS FOR ESTATE OF JOHN PARKER, DECEASED. ===== YOU can't beat the original records of his rev war file. hope this helps till you receive. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: Jiglee13@aol.com [mailto:Jiglee13@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 12:57 PM To: mari@netins.net Subject: genealogy I am trying to locate the Revolutionary War records of John Parker who married Rachel Sessums (Sampson Co., NC). The DAR is several months behind in sending these records. I hoped that you might have a record of the Service. He is an established Patriot for the DAR. I don't need copies but that would be nice, I just need to know what his service was. Thank you, Janice Gartman Lee jiglee13@aol.com

TRAVIS, yes we have some links to these areas. I believe you will find some cousins in our group. a small list, name, date, place is fine. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: TravisPNelson@aol.com [mailto:TravisPNelson@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:52 AM To: "Marie Sellers-Hollinger" Subject: Re: FW: Sellers Listserv/Robert Sellers/Jane Surratt Do you know if any Sellers live anywhere in the DC or Philadelphia area? I will send a narrative list later. I can trace my path from me to Robert Sellers (m. Jane Surratt), but I cannot go any further. Travis

dec, 2003 Ysearch Public Database Many of you must already know: this weekend Family Tree DNA launched www.Ysearch.org - a free public service to the genealogical community. People that have tested with all labs will be able to input their information and compare side by side 2 or more results, independent of the lab that they have tested. Being this a public site, and not wanting to infringe upon the individual privacy of the users, people can upload as much information as they want - enough to be of value for research - but still allowing to limit that information so that personal identification is not available, if this is one's desire. To make it easier for our customers, we have included an "Upload" link in the personal page, so that the numerical values will be automatically uploaded. We hope you join Ysearch and enjoy using it. Ysearch.org is pretty much self-explanatory. __________________ Max Blankfeld Family Tree DNA -----Original Message----- From: Ed Sellers [mailto:edsellers1@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 2:00 PM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SELLERS] SELLERS DNA results in Marie, I'm glad to see the results coming in, but I'm not sure about how to interpret them yet. I received a reply from FTDNA regarding the YSearch and they recommended that I could get more bang for my bucks if I did upload the YSearch and create a new user tab. I plan on doing this asap. Edgar Sellers ----- Original Message ----- From: Marie Sellers-Hollinger <mari@netins.net> To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 11:14 AM Subject: [SELLERS] SELLERS DNA results in > EDGAR, thanks. we have three back now. if you receive info on the YSearch. > please send. > marie, iowa > http://showcase.netins.net/web/sellers2/sellers_dna_results.htm > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Sellers [mailto:edsellers1@cox.net] > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:17 PM > To: info@familytreedna.com > Cc: Marie Sellers Hollinger > Subject: Edgar Sellers 14465 > > > I just received my results today. I think I signed a form to release this > information to our Sellers DNA administrator. (Marie Sellers Hollinger). Do > I need to upload to YSearch? All of the terminology is a little confusing, > but I'm sure I will eventually understand. > Thanks, > Edgar Sellers >

Marie, I'm glad to see the results coming in, but I'm not sure about how to interpret them yet. I received a reply from FTDNA regarding the YSearch and they recommended that I could get more bang for my bucks if I did upload the YSearch and create a new user tab. I plan on doing this asap. Edgar Sellers ----- Original Message ----- From: Marie Sellers-Hollinger <mari@netins.net> To: <SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 11:14 AM Subject: [SELLERS] SELLERS DNA results in > EDGAR, thanks. we have three back now. if you receive info on the YSearch. > please send. > marie, iowa > http://showcase.netins.net/web/sellers2/sellers_dna_results.htm > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Sellers [mailto:edsellers1@cox.net] > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:17 PM > To: info@familytreedna.com > Cc: Marie Sellers Hollinger > Subject: Edgar Sellers 14465 > > > I just received my results today. I think I signed a form to release this > information to our Sellers DNA administrator. (Marie Sellers Hollinger). Do > I need to upload to YSearch? All of the terminology is a little confusing, > but I'm sure I will eventually understand. > Thanks, > Edgar Sellers >

SHERRY, thanks for simply explanation. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: SHERRY MAZZETTI [mailto:sherrymazzetti1@prodigy.net] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 3:20 AM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SELLERS] WHICH DNA TEST? Marie and All--This is my understanding of the most common DNA tests available. If a female is tested, the test will be for her mitochondrial DNA aka Mtdna--a straight line female test--from her to mother, grandmother, greatgrandmother, etc. Males are tested for Ydna--a straight male line DNA--from him to father, grandfather, etc. (Because a male also carries his mother's mitochondrial D, technically a male could be tested for his direct female line, although none of his children could, as they inherit his wife's Mtdna. For our purposes, this is irrelevant.) For a Sellers line to be tested, a direct male Sellers descendant is needed. Presumably, under the assumption that paternity is known, any male whose surname is Sellers can be tested.The age of any living person is probably irrelevant. Most mutations occur about once in 10,000 yrs., at least for Mtdna. In any case, they are rare events. I would love to see if/how Johann Michael aka John Michael aka Michael Sellers of Bracken Co. KY is related to me, but only his direct male descendants will show if he is related to other Sellers in our discussions. My Mtdna results (which I have) show nothing to link me to any of my male ancestors. Note that there are more sophisticated tests which use a number of markers to determine if any given child is the child of a particular set of parents--sometimes a paternity test and sometimes a combination of genetic markers from nuclear DNA to determine if a dead person is a couple's child--as in the Laci Peterson case. (Blood types can also be used to some degree, usually to exclude a father when the mother is known.) Don't know if this makes sense. Hope so. Sherry

EDGAR, thanks. we have three back now. if you receive info on the YSearch. please send. marie, iowa http://showcase.netins.net/web/sellers2/sellers_dna_results.htm -----Original Message----- From: Ed Sellers [mailto:edsellers1@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:17 PM To: info@familytreedna.com Cc: Marie Sellers Hollinger Subject: Edgar Sellers 14465 I just received my results today. I think I signed a form to release this information to our Sellers DNA administrator. (Marie Sellers Hollinger). Do I need to upload to YSearch? All of the terminology is a little confusing, but I'm sure I will eventually understand. Thanks, Edgar Sellers

TRAVIS, thanks. Send a small chart = names, dates, places your SELLERS, etc came and went, I'll send it thro the SELLERS discussion group and should get help. Thanks for sharing SELLERS. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: TravisPNelson@aol.com [mailto:TravisPNelson@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:28 AM To: mari@netins.net Cc: dhardage@thevision.net Subject: Sellers Listserv Dear Ms. Hollinger, I happened upon an internet correspondence between yourself and a Sellers decendant named Darla Hardage. I too am a descendant of the Sellers family. I am the 4th great grandson of Robert Sellers (married to Jane Surratt). I would love to learn more about my family tree. Thanks, Travis Nelson

Marie and All--This is my understanding of the most common DNA tests available. If a female is tested, the test will be for her mitochondrial DNA aka Mtdna--a straight line female test--from her to mother, grandmother, greatgrandmother, etc. Males are tested for Ydna--a straight male line DNA--from him to father, grandfather, etc. (Because a male also carries his mother's mitochondrial D, technically a male could be tested for his direct female line, although none of his children could, as they inherit his wife's Mtdna. For our purposes, this is irrelevant.) For a Sellers line to be tested, a direct male Sellers descendant is needed. Presumably, under the assumption that paternity is known, any male whose surname is Sellers can be tested.The age of any living person is probably irrelevant. Most mutations occur about once in 10,000 yrs., at least for Mtdna. In any case, they are rare events. I would love to see if/how Johann Michael aka John Michael aka Michael Sellers of Bracken Co. KY is related to me, but only his direct male descendants will show if he is related to other Sellers in our discussions. My Mtdna results (which I have) show nothing to link me to any of my male ancestors. Note that there are more sophisticated tests which use a number of markers to determine if any given child is the child of a particular set of parents--sometimes a paternity test and sometimes a combination of genetic markers from nuclear DNA to determine if a dead person is a couple's child--as in the Laci Peterson case. (Blood types can also be used to some degree, usually to exclude a father when the mother is known.) Don't know if this makes sense. Hope so. Sherry Marie Sellers-Hollinger <mari@netins.net> wrote: LINDA, I believe either male SELLERS test would be the same, BUT, the older SELLERS you would have less change of a mutation. YOU can use YOUR email for contact on the order form. AFTER you order , you can send them an email on other tests. I believe LEE ydna tests must be a LEE male, but, there are other tests, but, don't know if available on the 12 marker. THANK YOU for helping and Happy Holidays. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: JAG [mailto:jag@our-town.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:40 AM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] WHICH DNA TEST? Hi Marie: I'm trying to figure out which test I should order. I've read the webpage, etc but would like to have your expertise in this matter. My mother was a SELLERS. My oldest living SELLERS' male relative is her brother. Is this uncle, rather than my male first cousin, the person I should have tested? Also, if my uncle is the person being tested, do I fill out "his" info on the request for test form and if so, how do I get the results & future notice of matches since I'll be the one paying for the test and doing any genealogical work, correspondence, etc? Or should/could I be the one tested? Also, this same uncle & I are descended from a LEE line but through the uncle's grandmother. Could this same uncle's DNA test be used to match to our MALE MRCA on the LEE line and will the company do that automatically if I request it or how is that done? I very much want to join this SELLERS DNA group & hope you can help me, Lynda Green

LINDA, I believe either male SELLERS test would be the same, BUT, the older SELLERS you would have less change of a mutation. YOU can use YOUR email for contact on the order form. AFTER you order , you can send them an email on other tests. I believe LEE ydna tests must be a LEE male, but, there are other tests, but, don't know if available on the 12 marker. THANK YOU for helping and Happy Holidays. marie, iowa -----Original Message----- From: JAG [mailto:jag@our-town.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:40 AM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] WHICH DNA TEST? Hi Marie: I'm trying to figure out which test I should order. I've read the webpage, etc but would like to have your expertise in this matter. My mother was a SELLERS. My oldest living SELLERS' male relative is her brother. Is this uncle, rather than my male first cousin, the person I should have tested? Also, if my uncle is the person being tested, do I fill out "his" info on the request for test form and if so, how do I get the results & future notice of matches since I'll be the one paying for the test and doing any genealogical work, correspondence, etc? Or should/could I be the one tested? Also, this same uncle & I are descended from a LEE line but through the uncle's grandmother. Could this same uncle's DNA test be used to match to our MALE MRCA on the LEE line and will the company do that automatically if I request it or how is that done? I very much want to join this SELLERS DNA group & hope you can help me, Lynda Green

Hi Marie: I'm trying to figure out which test I should order. I've read the webpage, etc but would like to have your expertise in this matter. My mother was a SELLERS. My oldest living SELLERS' male relative is her brother. Is this uncle, rather than my male first cousin, the person I should have tested? Also, if my uncle is the person being tested, do I fill out "his" info on the request for test form and if so, how do I get the results & future notice of matches since I'll be the one paying for the test and doing any genealogical work, correspondence, etc? Or should/could I be the one tested? Also, this same uncle & I are descended from a LEE line but through the uncle's grandmother. Could this same uncle's DNA test be used to match to our MALE MRCA on the LEE line and will the company do that automatically if I request it or how is that done? I very much want to join this SELLERS DNA group & hope you can help me, Lynda Green

Family Tree DNA GAP for Sellers group has 8 members and 7 kits have been returned. http://showcase.netins.net/web/sellers2/sellers_dna.htm NO lab results yet - some were due DEC 1ST? and maybe 7 days more? WE need More members from each Sellers Line to help compare when we start posting the lab results. KNOW a SELLERS that would do test if you sent them a Christmas Gift? THIS is a Very Slow Project, but, may prove helpful in future. THANK YOU for helping any way you can. Happy Holidays. marie, iowa

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JWGBAEB/1114 Message Board Post: Family Tree DNA GAP for Sellers group has 8 members and 7 kits have been returned. http://showcase.netins.net/web/sellers2/sellers_dna.htm NO lab results yet - some were due DEC 1ST? and maybe 7 days more? WE need More members from each Sellers Line to help compare when we start posting the lab results. KNOW a SELLERS that would do test if you sent them a Christmas Gift? THIS is a Very Slow Project, but, may prove helpful in future. THANK YOU for helping any way you can. Happy Holidays. marie, iowa

I did not find John H. Sellers in 1860 Marshall County, Indiana, Bourbon Township. This is the only township that I looked at since there is not an index. Georgia -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of krettinger@hoosierlink.net Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 8:43 AM To: SELLERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SELLERS] John Sellers and Mae Snell This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sellers, Snell, Kern, Bendell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JWGBAEB/1113 Message Board Post: I am looking for descendants of John Sellers b.1870 in Marshall Co. IN and Mae Snell whom he married abt 1891. They lived in Argos Indiana and later moved to Chicago. Their children were Nina Sellers Kern, Ilo Sellers Bendell, and John Jackson Sellers. Ilo may have had a son, George Bendell.