I have tried bribery with a bag of Skittles, I have begged, and I have pleaded. I thought of threatening but figured it would not work. Guess I'll just settle for asking. Anyway, I now have more info on my elusive James Grummon SEAMAN, Sr and, hopefully, it will ring a bell with someone. James Sr was b 1801 on Ellis Island & m Mary CRONK/CRONKHITE in 1822 in Bergen NJ. They moved to Wayne Co NY & then Barry Co MI. James Sr's father was John who m Joanna GRUMMON/GRUMMOND and they lived on Ellis Island until the gov't kicked them off. John's father was supposedly Joshua. There is also a bro to John, Isaac, who may have d at Gibraltar in the Barbary Wars. I have more details but those are the major points. Next posting I will post the list I have of James Sr's brothers & sisters (left it sitting on the kitchen table). Anyone have any supposition on these folks ??? === Terry Wilson 40 S. Gamble Street Shelby, OH 44875 Researching: ALLEN, COLTMAN, EDMAN, FERRIS, HARLAN/HARLAND,HOLLENBAUGH, HORNER, JANNY/JANNEY/JENNING, KELLER, KLINKLE, KRUNK/CRUNK/CRONK,MARING/MEARING, MAY, McCORMIC/McCORMICK, SEAMAN, SHOMO, SIFFERLIN, TOUSLEY/TOSELEY, & WILSON _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com