OK, here's what I've found and now I need help substantiating it. Nothing on this list is for sure except the info on James Sr & Jr. Anyone with info is encouraged to help on this one -------------------- Joshua SEAMAN was m twice He had at least John and Isaac John SEAMAN m Joan GRUMMON and had: Joshua m Susan MILLS David m Sally Lazzara Catherine m ? SANTHENSTALL John m Susan COLE Stephen m Jane MILLS Isaac m Sarah CRANE James Grummon m1 Mary CRONKHITE/CRONK in 1822 in Bergen, NJ, m2 Ann TURNER. He b 29 Jul 1802 Ellis Island and lived to age 92. (My ggg-gfather) Eliza m ? MEASUREALL William m Sarah McWILLIAMS Alfred m Ann McWILLIAMS Henry m Mary A. WELCH Henrietta m Nathaniel/Matthew HOLMES **** then James G. and Mary above had the following: Joan Eliza b 16 Mar 1823 d infancy John J. b 30 Nov 1824 d infancy James Grummon Jr. b 18 Sep 1826 m1 Harriet J. JENNY, m2 Lucretia BENNETT (my gg-gfather) Cornelius W. b 20 Aig 1828 d in Mexican War Elijah Wesley b 8 Apr 1820 a abt 1836 John Fletcher b 22 Apr 1832 m Elinor FINCH then her sister Lois Charles b 9 Sep 1833 d infancy Joseph Washington b 24 Feb 1835 in Jersey City m Sarah ULINE Samuel Jackson b 13 May 1836 Mary Francis b 22 Aug 1837 m Joseph McLOUD Harriet Elizabeth b 22 Nov 1838 m William RHODES Adaline Hannah b 12 Feb 1840 Albert Redfield b 26 Jun 1841 m Ida MONROE Supposedly Isaac (s/o Joshua) was in charge of a squadron for the colonies on Lake Ontario and that he d in Gibraltar. Supposedly Joshua (f of John and Isaac) was taken from his bed by the British and compelled to pilot their ship to West Point NY (Source) Undated letter from Rev. William Grant SEAMAN (s/o Joseph Washington SEAMAN) to Miss SEAMAN. Ltr written from The City Church, Methodist Episcopal, in Gary, Indiana ------------------- Like I said, I'll entertain all comers. Who is this Joshua at the head of the list & where does he belong ??? Can anyone verify any of this info ??? Terry === Terry Wilson 40 S. Gamble Street Shelby, OH 44875 Researching: ALLEN, COLTMAN, EDMAN, FERRIS, HARLAN/HARLAND,HOLLENBAUGH, HORNER, JANNY/JANNEY/JENNING, KELLER, KLINKLE, KRUNK/CRUNK/CRONK,MARING/MEARING, MAY, McCORMIC/McCORMICK, SEAMAN, SHOMO, SIFFERLIN, TOUSLEY/TOSELEY, & WILSON _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com