From "Makers of the Nation: Captain John Seaman as Statesman and one of the founders of the Republic and Public careers of some of his Descendants" by Ferdinand Seeger, M. D. 1909, p. 6: "John de Seman of the first crusade is mentioned in the list of Knight Crusaders in de Joinville's Chronicles of the Crusaders. "John Seman of the English contingent of the first crusade in Feyerabend's Chronicles of the Crusaders. Also in Fuller's Historic of the Holie Wars." (I took the liberty of adding appropriate punctuation and eliminating the capitalization of random words which make reading difficult and in netiquette signifies shouting.) I have never seen any of the source materials Seeger mentions but I have seen the Carman website. I recommend it highly to anyone who wants to get a better understanding of the English conditions in the 16th century. See especially the page on martyrs. It can be found at http://www.carman.net/ Carolyn M. Seaman >Does anyone have any data on John SEAMAN, listed as >one of the "Sir Knyghtes Crusaders" of "The First >Holie War", dated 1096 ??? > > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. >http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Does anyone have any data on John SEAMAN, listed as one of the "Sir Knyghtes Crusaders" of "The First Holie War", dated 1096 ??? I already have some info from the "CARMAN" website and am looking for additional. Terry ===== Terry Wilson 21 Clark Avenue Shelby, OH 44875 Researching: ALLEN, COLTMAN, EDMAN, FERRIS, HARLAN/HARLAND,HOLLENBAUGH, HORNER, JANNY/JANNEY/JENNING, KELLER, KLINKLE, KRUNK/CRUNK/CRONK,MARING/MEARING, MAY, McCORMIC/McCORMICK, SEAMAN, SHOMO, SIFFERLIN, TOUSLEY/TOSELEY, & WILSON __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IYGBAIB/546.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: You posted a statement: "My husband is a descendant of Capt.John Seaman of L.I.He was the great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandchild of Capt. John Seaman and Martha Moore." I was asking if you could tell us more about your husband's SEAMAN line. Like who were his parents, when were they born, when did they marry, etc. And then his parent's parents on the SEAMAN line. That way we could see if we could connect his family to the rest of the Long Island SEAMAN database.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IYGBAIB/546.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: John's father was Thomas Seaman he was 76 in the 1910 census and was living with John and family . I am looking for information on the Askin family also if anyone can help.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Seaman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IYGBAIB/546.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Are you ferring to Capt. John Seaman?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IYGBAIB/546.1.1 Message Board Post: Could you share with us his descendancy...that is, who was his father and mother, and their fathers and mothers, etc.?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Seaman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IYGBAIB/531.4 Message Board Post: How are you coming along with your Abraham Seaman search?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Seaman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IYGBAIB/546.1 Message Board Post: My husband is a descendant of Capt.John Seaman of L.I.He was the great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandchild of Capt. John Seaman and Martha Moore.

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> > This site is fantastic for getting a view of a > place > > (if you know the > > address)! It gives you an aerial view of the > > location you've requested. > > Great for getting a visual idea of a > > cemetery/church, etc that you want to > > visit.... > > > http://www.earthviewer.com/evhtml?tfile=ccim.v3%2Fnav_center.html&vfile > > > > Be aware, though, it may not be precisely > accurate. > > I searched for my own > > address and it zeroed in on a site about 4 houses > > down the street from me - > > but the scope is wide enough that I could still > see > > my own roof down there! > > ===== Terry Wilson 21 Clark Avenue Shelby, OH 44875 Researching: ALLEN, COLTMAN, EDMAN, FERRIS, HARLAN/HARLAND,HOLLENBAUGH, HORNER, JANNY/JANNEY/JENNING, KELLER, KLINKLE, KRUNK/CRUNK/CRONK,MARING/MEARING, MAY, McCORMIC/McCORMICK, SEAMAN, SHOMO, SIFFERLIN, TOUSLEY/TOSELEY, & WILSON __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IYGBAIB/546 Message Board Post: John Seaman b.1873 m. Elizabeth Lillian Askin childre Elanore b. 1904 Georgeb. 1907 Elanore m. Paul Roepke daughter Doris b. 1927 George m. Isabelle ? b.1907 children Ruth b. 1927 George b. 1929 If anyone can help me with this family it would be great. I found a photo in my mom's things lablrd Georgie Seaman my cousin.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IYGBAIB/505.1 Message Board Post: Hmmmm, still no luck.... James Seaman.

Hello again, Cheri/ List: This is the final information from the NJ DOT counsel, Mr. Journick, and my response to him. Some one now needs to call Mr. Michael Dermody at the Office of the County Counsel for Hudson County. Is there some one in the 201 Area Code that make the call to Mr Dermody? I am in upstate NY. Mary Sayman Dear Messr. Journick: Thank you very much for the information. I appreciate the time you took to respond. I am sure some one will contact Mr. Dermody at the Office of the County Counsel. Sincerely, Mary Sayman Ms. Sayman: I am the attorney for the New Jersey Turnpike Authority and responsible for handling the Authority's application to the Court for an Order permitting the Authority to proceed with the disinterment of burials in a Former Burial Ground located in Secaucus, NJ near Laurel Hill (also known as Snake Hill). The Former Burial Ground is one of three burial grounds in the area, but the only one affected by the Authority's Secaucus Interchange Project. I have searched the burial records obtained by the Authority from Hudson County for the name William Seaman. These records do not distinguish between the three burial grounds, except that based upon historic maps of the Former Burial Ground, we believe that the Former Burial Ground was not used for burials prior to 1920. The burial records reflect that William Seaman was buried on April 21, 1885. Based upon the date of burial, we believe that William Seman was not buried in the Former Burial Ground, but in one of the other two burial grounds in the area which will not be affected by the Authority's project. Other than date of burial, the burial records give no other information regarding William Seaman, such as date of birth, parents' names or residence address. The Authority does not have any other records that could provide such information. I am aware that other persons have obtained additional information, such as death certificates, concerning persons listed in the burial records with the assistance of the Office of the County Counsel of Hudson County. Should you wish to contact this office, I suggest you contact Michael L. Dermody, First Assistant County Counsel, at 201/795-6250. Mr. Dermody's address is Administration Building Annex, 567 Pavonia Avenue, Jersey Ciity, NJ 07306. Mr. Dermody has knowledge concerning the Former Burial Ground. If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me. Francis X. Journick, Jr., Esq. Wilentz Goldman & Spitzer, P.A. 90 Woodbridge Center Drive P.O. Box 10 Woodbridge, New Jersey 07095 General Tel.: (732) 636-8000 General Fax: (732) 855-6117 Direct Tel.: (732) 855-6167 Direct Fax: (732) 726-6572 E-mail: [email protected]

Cheri, This is the response I received from New Jersey and the further email I sent to their attorneys. Mary Dear Messr. Journick: I was referred to you by Ms. Fleeger, Director of Public Affairs, New Jersey, regarding the Patterson Plank Road Project and the interment of one William Seaman in Potter's Field. I am trying to determine if Wililam Seaman is a relative and asked for an email address for the Hudson County office which would deal with burials and vital information of the interred, as follows: Hello. As a consequence of this project, several graves in Potter's field cemetery are going to be moved. There is a William Seaman buried in this cemetery, and I would like the email address of the Hudson County office from which I may request the burial information for this person. He may be a relative. Thank you. Mary Sayman. Are you the person who will be able to realease this information? Thank you. Mary Sayman ----- Original Message ----- From: Public Affairs Department To: [email protected] Cc: Unit Correspondence Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 2:49 PM Subject: Internet Inquiry The list for Potter's Field is located on the NJ Turnpike web site at www.state.nj.us/turnpike under "Former Burial Ground List." For information concerning Potter's Field, please contact the New Jersey Turnpike Authority's General Counsel, Wilentz, Goldman and Spitzer, and speak with attorney Francis Journick. The phone number for Wilentz, Goldman and Spitzer is 732-636-8000. The e-mail address is [email protected] Lynn M. Fleeger Director of Public Affairs

Cheri, The project involving Potter's Field is called the Patterson Plank Road Project. I just sent an email to the transportation office requesting an email address of the Hudson County office from where I could obtain burial information because William may be a relative. The context of the message is below. Perhaps I can obtain the information this way, which would be a lot easier than doing footwork Mary Sayman Thank You For Filling Out This Form Below is what you submitted to [email protected] on Wednesday, November 20, 2002 at 14:19:55 name: Mary Sxxxxx State: NY email address: [email protected] comments: Hello. As a consequence of this project, several graves in Potter's field cemetery are going to be moved. There is a William Seaman buried in this cemetery, and I would like the email address of the Hudson County office from which I may request the burial information for this person. He may be a relative. Thank you. Mary Sxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: cheri To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 11:29 AM Subject: [SEAMAN-L] Re: Potter's Field is located on the NJ Turnpike Is anyone interested in looking this up? ----- Original Message ----- From: "cheri" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 8:29 AM Subject: Fw: Potter's Field is located on the NJ Turnpike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Journick, Frank" <[email protected]> > To: "'cheri'" <[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 12:06 PM > Subject: RE: Potter's Field is located on the NJ Turnpike > > > > Dear Ms. Wasser: > > > > I searched the records obtained by the New Jersey Turnpike Authority > > and found the name William Seaman, who was buried on April 21, 1885. Our > > records do not include birth or death dates, or other information such as > > parents' names or family information. > > > > I can tell you that based upon the records obtained by the > > Authority, it appears that the cemetery which the Authority seeks to > > relocate does not contain the burial of William Seaman. The burials in > the > > cemetery with which the Authority is concerned contains burials from about > > 1920 to possibly 1962, when use of the cemetery ceased. The records > > obtained by the Authority pertain to two other burial grounds used by > Hudson > > County institutions, in addition to the cemetery with which the > Authority > > is concerned. > > > > I am sorry I cannot be of more assistance to you. However, you may > > wish to contact Hudson County regarding birth and death records. I am > aware > > that other persons interested in such records have obtained them through > the > > County. > > > > If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to > > contact me. > > > > Francis X. Journick, Jr., Esq. > > Wilentz Goldman & Spitzer, P.A. > > 90 Woodbridge Center Drive > > P.O. Box 10 > > Woodbridge, New Jersey 07095 > > General Tel.: (732) 636-8000 > > General Fax: (732) 855-6117 > > Direct Tel.: (732) 855-6167 > > Direct Fax: (732) 726-6572 > > E-mail: [email protected] > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cheri [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:16 PM > > > To: Journick, Frank > > > Subject: Potter's Field is located on the NJ Turnpike > > > > > > Dear Mr. Journick > > > I found the name William Seaman on the NJ Turnpike Potter's Field burial > > > list. I have an ancestor by that name and would like to request > > > additional information about the William Seaman on the burial list. I > > > would need to know his birth and death dates and if there is any > > > information on family, such as his parents names in order to determine > if > > > this gentleman is indeed my missing William Seaman. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Cheri Wasser > > > > > >

Is anyone interested in looking this up? ----- Original Message ----- From: "cheri" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 8:29 AM Subject: Fw: Potter's Field is located on the NJ Turnpike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Journick, Frank" <[email protected]> > To: "'cheri'" <[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 12:06 PM > Subject: RE: Potter's Field is located on the NJ Turnpike > > > > Dear Ms. Wasser: > > > > I searched the records obtained by the New Jersey Turnpike Authority > > and found the name William Seaman, who was buried on April 21, 1885. Our > > records do not include birth or death dates, or other information such as > > parents' names or family information. > > > > I can tell you that based upon the records obtained by the > > Authority, it appears that the cemetery which the Authority seeks to > > relocate does not contain the burial of William Seaman. The burials in > the > > cemetery with which the Authority is concerned contains burials from about > > 1920 to possibly 1962, when use of the cemetery ceased. The records > > obtained by the Authority pertain to two other burial grounds used by > Hudson > > County institutions, in addition to the cemetery with which the > Authority > > is concerned. > > > > I am sorry I cannot be of more assistance to you. However, you may > > wish to contact Hudson County regarding birth and death records. I am > aware > > that other persons interested in such records have obtained them through > the > > County. > > > > If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to > > contact me. > > > > Francis X. Journick, Jr., Esq. > > Wilentz Goldman & Spitzer, P.A. > > 90 Woodbridge Center Drive > > P.O. Box 10 > > Woodbridge, New Jersey 07095 > > General Tel.: (732) 636-8000 > > General Fax: (732) 855-6117 > > Direct Tel.: (732) 855-6167 > > Direct Fax: (732) 726-6572 > > E-mail: [email protected] > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cheri [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:16 PM > > > To: Journick, Frank > > > Subject: Potter's Field is located on the NJ Turnpike > > > > > > Dear Mr. Journick > > > I found the name William Seaman on the NJ Turnpike Potter's Field burial > > > list. I have an ancestor by that name and would like to request > > > additional information about the William Seaman on the burial list. I > > > would need to know his birth and death dates and if there is any > > > information on family, such as his parents names in order to determine > if > > > this gentleman is indeed my missing William Seaman. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Cheri Wasser > > > > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Journick, Frank" <[email protected]> To: "'cheri'" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 12:06 PM Subject: RE: Potter's Field is located on the NJ Turnpike > Dear Ms. Wasser: > > I searched the records obtained by the New Jersey Turnpike Authority > and found the name William Seaman, who was buried on April 21, 1885. Our > records do not include birth or death dates, or other information such as > parents' names or family information. > > I can tell you that based upon the records obtained by the > Authority, it appears that the cemetery which the Authority seeks to > relocate does not contain the burial of William Seaman. The burials in the > cemetery with which the Authority is concerned contains burials from about > 1920 to possibly 1962, when use of the cemetery ceased. The records > obtained by the Authority pertain to two other burial grounds used by Hudson > County institutions, in addition to the cemetery with which the Authority > is concerned. > > I am sorry I cannot be of more assistance to you. However, you may > wish to contact Hudson County regarding birth and death records. I am aware > that other persons interested in such records have obtained them through the > County. > > If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to > contact me. > > Francis X. Journick, Jr., Esq. > Wilentz Goldman & Spitzer, P.A. > 90 Woodbridge Center Drive > P.O. Box 10 > Woodbridge, New Jersey 07095 > General Tel.: (732) 636-8000 > General Fax: (732) 855-6117 > Direct Tel.: (732) 855-6167 > Direct Fax: (732) 726-6572 > E-mail: [email protected] > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cheri [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:16 PM > > To: Journick, Frank > > Subject: Potter's Field is located on the NJ Turnpike > > > > Dear Mr. Journick > > I found the name William Seaman on the NJ Turnpike Potter's Field burial > > list. I have an ancestor by that name and would like to request > > additional information about the William Seaman on the burial list. I > > would need to know his birth and death dates and if there is any > > information on family, such as his parents names in order to determine if > > this gentleman is indeed my missing William Seaman. > > > > Thank you, > > Cheri Wasser > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Seaman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IYGBAIB/545.1 Message Board Post: Julie, I have some Seamans in my line. My grandfather was Fred J Seaman. He married Irene Dubois and had three children, Shirley b abt 1928, Don b.abt 1930 and my mother Edna born 1936. They lived in Albany for quite a while. I dont know to much about this part of my tree, if you think there may be a connection please let me know. Thanks and goodluck. Joanne

Please see below regarding the William Seaman listed on the burial list. I will try to contact Hudson County and share whatever I am able to locate regarding this Seaman. Cheri Wasser ----- Original Message ----- From: "Journick, Frank" <[email protected]> To: "'cheri'" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 12:06 PM Subject: RE: Potter's Field is located on the NJ Turnpike > Dear Ms. Wasser: > > I searched the records obtained by the New Jersey Turnpike Authority > and found the name William Seaman, who was buried on April 21, 1885. Our > records do not include birth or death dates, or other information such as > parents' names or family information. > > I can tell you that based upon the records obtained by the > Authority, it appears that the cemetery which the Authority seeks to > relocate does not contain the burial of William Seaman. The burials in the > cemetery with which the Authority is concerned contains burials from about > 1920 to possibly 1962, when use of the cemetery ceased. The records > obtained by the Authority pertain to two other burial grounds used by Hudson > County institutions, in addition to the cemetery with which the Authority > is concerned. > > I am sorry I cannot be of more assistance to you. However, you may > wish to contact Hudson County regarding birth and death records. I am aware > that other persons interested in such records have obtained them through the > County. > > If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to > contact me. > > Francis X. Journick, Jr., Esq. > Wilentz Goldman & Spitzer, P.A. > 90 Woodbridge Center Drive > P.O. Box 10 > Woodbridge, New Jersey 07095 > General Tel.: (732) 636-8000 > General Fax: (732) 855-6117 > Direct Tel.: (732) 855-6167 > Direct Fax: (732) 726-6572 > E-mail: [email protected] > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cheri [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:16 PM > > To: Journick, Frank > > Subject: Potter's Field is located on the NJ Turnpike > > > > Dear Mr. Journick > > I found the name William Seaman on the NJ Turnpike Potter's Field burial > > list. I have an ancestor by that name and would like to request > > additional information about the William Seaman on the burial list. I > > would need to know his birth and death dates and if there is any > > information on family, such as his parents names in order to determine if > > this gentleman is indeed my missing William Seaman. > > > > Thank you, > > Cheri Wasser > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Seaman, Clark Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IYGBAIB/545 Message Board Post: Looking for anyone related to Seamans in this order.... Grandfather Seaman(probably named George) had at least two brothers..one named Bill. I have a picture of them taken in Albany, NY. Grandfather Seaman had at least one son named Frank W. Seaman born @1875 who married Carrie J. The two had at least five children..William, Frank, Grace E., Caroline Eleanor, and Matilda E. Seaman. Caroline E. died shortly after giving birth to my father-in-law in the spring of 1934. Caroline was born Dec. 24, 1907. The family once lived in Hamburg because I have Carolines 5th grade completion cert. The family is listed on the 1920 Census in Langhorne, PA. Frank W. born in England and Carrie born in PA. All the children were born in New Jersey, except Frank, Jr. in New York. The family also lived in the East Orange area and are listed on the 1930 Census in Trenton, NJ. Grace E. and Caroline E. were both nurses and graduated from the McKinley Hospital School of Nursing in Trenton in the late 1920's. The five siblings also had a cousin named Don Seaman about their age. Please contact me with any info regarding this line of Seaman's. Thanks....Julie Clark