I did not find anything out. That is interesting about Capt. John being the only Seaman. I have information on a Philander Seaman in NY but I cannot trace him forward to my ggGrandfather Kirkland Seaman or back....I am truly stumped at this time. What about you... Any tips for me? I've just started out searching. Thanks for all your help! ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 6:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SEAMAN] Re: Brothers of Capt John Seaman This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IYGBAIB/511.2 Message Board Post: Did you ever find out the information you requested? I have found that Captain John's family is very hard to trace. There is no mention of another Seaman on Winthrop's Fleet...Capt. John seemed to cross by himself. Let me know if you wouldn't mind

That would be superb! My address is 6814 Kingston Road, Tinley Park, IL 60477 Thanks so much! ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 6:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SEAMAN] Re: Grey County Seamans This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IYGBAIB/584.1 Message Board Post: I have a copy of this excellent book. My grandmother was a Seaman. I would be happy to copy it for you and mail one on Email me [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IYGBAIB/511.2 Message Board Post: Did you ever find out the information you requested? I have found that Captain John's family is very hard to trace. There is no mention of another Seaman on Winthrop's Fleet...Capt. John seemed to cross by himself. Let me know if you wouldn't mind

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IYGBAIB/584.1 Message Board Post: I have a copy of this excellent book. My grandmother was a Seaman. I would be happy to copy it for you and mail one on Email me [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Seaman, Semmence, Simmons Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IYGBAIB/595 Message Board Post: I am researching the Seaman family of Hingham / Caston in the late 17th century in particular Thomas Seaman and wife Diana. Would be grateful for any info

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: seaman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/IYGBAIB/594 Message Board Post: Hi, I have a connection to Middlesborough in my family tree but can find no more info. Joseph Seamens ref: 82, occupation Labourer. Children: 2. i Charles b. 1853 Approx. Second Generation 2. Charles Seamens b. 1853 Approx, England, ref: 83, occupation Traction Engine Stoker, m. 15-Sep-1873, in Parish Church, St. Paul, Middlesbourgh, Isabella Bett, b. 1851 Aprox, Inverkeithing, Fife, (daughter of David Bett and Elizabeth Crichton) ref: 84, d. 14-Aug-1910, 33 James Place, Dunfermline, Fife, buried: Dunfermline Cemetery. Charles stayed in Scotland until about 1895/1900 but cannot be traced. I cannot trace the ancestry either with the Middlesborough connection.

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The annual SEAMAN Family Reunion will be held at 12:30 p.m., Sunday, September 5 at the South Park Pavilion in Seltzer Park in Shelby, Ohio. The reunion is mainly attended by descendants of James Grummon Seaman, Jr and his son, Samual Silas Seaman who settled here in Richland Co. This is part of the group that descended from the Ellis Island crowd. POC Terry Wilson 419.347.6782 Terry Wilson 21 Clark Avenue Shelby, OH 44875 (419) 347-6782 Researching: ALLEN, EDMAN, FERRIS, HARLAN/HARLAND,HOLLENBAUGH, HORNER, JANNY/JANNEY/JENNING, KELLER, KLINKLE, KRUNK/CRUNK/CRONK,MARING/MEARING, MAY, McCORMIC/McCORMICK, SEAMAN, SHOMO, SIFFERLIN, TOUSLEY/TOSELEY, & WILSON --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!

Source: [email protected] Subject: Aged Katie Seaman [Not My Family - Just found this lady's life interesting - Any one on this list who is a subscriber to the Seaman List may feel free to forward this message to that list] - So I have done just that. CMS Poughkeepsie Daily Eagle Friday Dec. 28, 1883 AGED KATIE SEAMAN 103 Years Old -Her Life in Dutchess Co. -Indentured When a Girl to Farmer PALMER in the Town of Washington - Afterwards Cook for Col. HATCH in the Old FORBUS House - Cooking a Breakfast for Aaron BURR Which He Wouldn't Eat - Her Father the Brother of Martin VAN BUREN - Her Recollections of Evacuation Day and Revolutionary Times On Evacuation Day In New York an Evening Telegram reporter overheard a Customs Inspector say that a woman named Seaman was residing at 313 West Thirty-fifth street who was in New York on Evacuation 100 years ago, and the reporter went to the house referred to. - The upper floor of the house was occupied by Henry NEWTON, an ex-policeman, with whom Mrs. Catharine SEAMAN has boarded for ten years at the expense of the Reformed Protestant Dutch Church in Fulton street, of which she has been a member for years. Mrs. SEAMAN is a woman of small frame, and the skin on her face and hands is wrinkled and dry. She has the appearance of an extremely aged person, and physicians who have seen here say she is certainly over 100 years old. She is very sick at present. "I cannot tell you my age," she said to the reporter. It was put down in the Bible but I have lost that and all my children too." In connection with some events the old lady's memory is unimpaired, but her mind wanders when she tries to recall certain episodes in her life. For instance, she says she was born in Kinderhook, Dutchess county, Kinderhook being in Columbia county. Her father was the brother of President Martin VAN BUREN. When she was a mere child she was indentured to a farmer named Palmer, who lived at the cross roads of Nine Partners, in the town of Washington Dutchess county, on the highway between Poughkeepsie and Amenia. When sixteen years old she married James FANNING, a farmer. While working in a hay field he was sun struck and died before his friends could get him home. She says that in 1804 she was a cook in a Poughkeepsie hotel kept by two men, one she remembers as Mr. HATCH.(Mr. HATCH kept the old Forbus House where the NELSON House now stands.) She was then a widow with five children, but she does not remember the age of the eldest. Her landlady, Mrs. NEWTON, thinks the child was about eight years old in 1804, deriving her impression from what the old lady has said about her family during the past ten years. If that was the correct age of the first of her five children - it seems very probable - Mrs. SEAMAN must now be 103 years old, but the Customs Inspector alluded to the above, who has hand many chats with the old lady in the past six or seven years, calculates her age at 111. When asked how she fixed the date of 1804 as the time she was employed in the Po'keepsie hotel, Mrs. SEAMAN replied, "Aaron BURR often stopped at the hotel, and he liked the way I broiled and seasoned a beefsteak. Very shortly after his duel with Hamilton he came there and calling for me, "Kate, I want you to cook me a steak. The papers at the time were very full of the accounts of the duel, and Mr. BURR saw them lying on a table in the barroom. He told Mr. HATCH they were put there to insult him, and he went away without eating the breakfast I had cooked for him. You know the duel was in 1804." Her second husband was Nathaniel SEAMAN. He was a widower with five children when he married her, and was a well-digger by occupation. He died from asphyxiation caused by foul gases in a well he was digging. She cannot remember the date of her second marriage, nor the time of SEAMAN's death. Her third husband's name was PARDEE, and he was captain of a canal boat. He died suddenly while away from home, and was buried by strangers. She was asked if she recollected when the British troops were in New York, and she said she did, adding, "I was a bit of a girl then, but old enough to understand what the people were talking about. I know they said the war was over and mother told father they wouldn't have to pay the English any more for tea, or something like that. May be I would have forgotten all about Evacutation Day and what it meant if it hadn't been for the ball we had every year when the day came around. I was very fond of dancing and went to all the balls given in that part of the country when I was a girl." Her recollection of the conversation in relation to the Tea tax indicates that she must have been more than three years old at the time and therefore more than 103 years old now. Mr. and Mrs. NEWTON, and others who know Mrs. SEAMAN, give her credit for truthfulness, and do not doubt that she is at least 103 years old. She is active when well, and of choice helps with the housework, "to kill time" as she expresses it. Her appetite is good and she relishes food. The only thing she worries over is the fear of dying when alone in the night and for this reason she is the last person in the house to go to bed and the first to rise in the morning. Two of SEAMAN's sons live in Williamsburg. Their step mother vists them occasionally. -------------------------------- 1880 Census - 16th Ward, District 12, New York, New York (Manhattan) [familysearch.org] Henry NEWTON Self M Male W 49 NY Painter NY NY Maggie NEWTON Wife M Female W 47 NY Keeping House NY NY Kate SEAMAN Mother W Female W 94 NY At Home NY NY -------------------------------- I think Katie Seaman may be Catherine Finen who was married by Dr. Cuyler Nov 10 1825 to Nathaniel N. Seaman. That is the sum total of what I know. Whoever can add to this fascinating account, please do so. Curiously, if she was born in Kinderhook, Columbia Co., her father could very well have been the brother of Martin Van Buren because Kinderhook is the birthplace of MVB. Since I happen to live in Kinderhook, myself, this is something I will check out very soon. This woman and her Seaman husband have been some of my "orphans" and I'd love to get them parents and children. Carolyn M. Seaman

Source: [email protected] Subject: Aged Katie Seaman [Not My Family - Just found this lady's life interesting - Any one on this list who is a subscriber to the Seaman List may feel free to forward this message to that list] - So I have done just that. CMS Poughkeepsie Daily Eagle Friday Dec. 28, 1883 AGED KATIE SEAMAN 103 Years Old -Her Life in Dutchess Co. -Indentured When a Girl to Farmer PALMER in the Town of Washington - Afterwards Cook for Col. HATCH in the Old FORBUS House - Cooking a Breakfast for Aaron BURR Which He Wouldn't Eat - Her Father the Brother of Martin VAN BUREN - Her Recollections of Evacuation Day and Revolutionary Times On Evacuation Day In New York an Evening Telegram reporter overheard a Customs Inspector say that a woman named Seaman was residing at 313 West Thirty-fifth street who was in New York on Evacuation 100 years ago, and the reporter went to the house referred to. - The upper floor of the house was occupied by Henry NEWTON, an ex-policeman, with whom Mrs. Catharine SEAMAN has boarded for ten years at the expense of the Reformed Protestant Dutch Church in Fulton street, of which she has been a member for years. Mrs. SEAMAN is a woman of small frame, and the skin on her face and hands is wrinkled and dry. She has the appearance of an extremely aged person, and physicians who have seen here say she is certainly over 100 years old. She is very sick at present. "I cannot tell you my age," she said to the reporter. It was put down in the Bible but I have lost that and all my children too." In connection with some events the old lady's memory is unimpaired, but her mind wanders when she tries to recall certain episodes in her life. For instance, she says she was born in Kinderhook, Dutchess county, Kinderhook being in Columbia county. Her father was the brother of President Martin VAN BUREN. When she was a mere child she was indentured to a farmer named Palmer, who lived at the cross roads of Nine Partners, in the town of Washington Dutchess county, on the highway between Poughkeepsie and Amenia. When sixteen years old she married James FANNING, a farmer. While working in a hay field he was sun struck and died before his friends could get him home. She says that in 1804 she was a cook in a Poughkeepsie hotel kept by two men, one she remembers as Mr. HATCH.(Mr. HATCH kept the old Forbus House where the NELSON House now stands.) She was then a widow with five children, but she does not remember the age of the eldest. Her landlady, Mrs. NEWTON, thinks the child was about eight years old in 1804, deriving her impression from what the old lady has said about her family during the past ten years. If that was the correct age of the first of her five children - it seems very probable - Mrs. SEAMAN must now be 103 years old, but the Customs Inspector alluded to the above, who has hand many chats with the old lady in the past six or seven years, calculates her age at 111. When asked how she fixed the date of 1804 as the time she was employed in the Po'keepsie hotel, Mrs. SEAMAN replied, "Aaron BURR often stopped at the hotel, and he liked the way I broiled and seasoned a beefsteak. Very shortly after his duel with Hamilton he came there and calling for me, "Kate, I want you to cook me a steak. The papers at the time were very full of the accounts of the duel, and Mr. BURR saw them lying on a table in the barroom. He told Mr. HATCH they were put there to insult him, and he went away without eating the breakfast I had cooked for him. You know the duel was in 1804." Her second husband was Nathaniel SEAMAN. He was a widower with five children when he married her, and was a well-digger by occupation. He died from asphyxiation caused by foul gases in a well he was digging. She cannot remember the date of her second marriage, nor the time of SEAMAN's death. Her third husband's name was PARDEE, and he was captain of a canal boat. He died suddenly while away from home, and was buried by strangers. She was asked if she recollected when the British troops were in New York, and she said she did, adding, "I was a bit of a girl then, but old enough to understand what the people were talking about. I know they said the war was over and mother told father they wouldn't have to pay the English any more for tea, or something like that. May be I would have forgotten all about Evacutation Day and what it meant if it hadn't been for the ball we had every year when the day came around. I was very fond of dancing and went to all the balls given in that part of the country when I was a girl." Her recollection of the conversation in relation to the Tea tax indicates that she must have been more than three years old at the time and therefore more than 103 years old now. Mr. and Mrs. NEWTON, and others who know Mrs. SEAMAN, give her credit for truthfulness, and do not doubt that she is at least 103 years old. She is active when well, and of choice helps with the housework, "to kill time" as she expresses it. Her appetite is good and she relishes food. The only thing she worries over is the fear of dying when alone in the night and for this reason she is the last person in the house to go to bed and the first to rise in the morning. Two of SEAMAN's sons live in Williamsburg. Their step mother vists them occasionally. -------------------------------- 1880 Census - 16th Ward, District 12, New York, New York (Manhattan) [familysearch.org] Henry NEWTON Self M Male W 49 NY Painter NY NY Maggie NEWTON Wife M Female W 47 NY Keeping House NY NY Kate SEAMAN Mother W Female W 94 NY At Home NY NY -------------------------------- Curiously, if she was born in Kinderhook, Columbia Co., her father could very well have been the brother of Martin Van Buren because Kinderhook is the birthplace of MVB. Since I happen to live in Kinderhook, myself, this is something I will check out very soon. This woman and her Seaman husband have been some of my "orphans" and I'd love to get them parents and children.

>Source: [email protected] (forwarded with permission) >Subject: Aged Katie Seaman > >Poughkeepsie Daily Eagle >Friday Dec. 28, 1883 > >AGED KATIE SEAMAN >103 Years Old >-Her Life in Dutchess Co. -Indentured When a Girl to Farmer PALMER in the >Town of Washington - Afterwards Cook for Col. HATCH in the Old FORBUS >House - Cooking a Breakfast for Aaron BURR Which He Wouldn't Eat - Her >Father the Brother of Martin VAN BUREN - Her Recollections of Evacuation Day >and Revolutionary Times > >On Evacuation Day In New York an Evening Telegram reporter overheard a >Customs Inspector say that a woman named Seaman was residing at 313 West >Thirty-fifth street who was in New York on Evacuation 100 years ago, and the >reporter went to the house referred to. - The upper floor of the house was >occupied by Henry NEWTON, an ex-policeman, with whom Mrs. Catharine SEAMAN >has boarded for ten years at the expense of the Reformed Protestant Dutch >Church in Fulton street, of which she has been a member for years. Mrs. >SEAMAN is a woman of small frame, and the skin on her face and hands is >wrinkled and dry. She has the appearance of an extremely aged person, and >physicians who have seen here say she is certainly over 100 years old. She >is very sick at present. > >"I cannot tell you my age," she said to the reporter. It was put down in >the Bible but I have lost that and all my children too." > >In connection with some events the old lady's memory is unimpaired, but her >mind wanders when she tries to recall certain episodes in her life. For >instance, she says she was born in Kinderhook, Dutchess county, Kinderhook >being in Columbia county. Her father was the brother of President Martin >VAN BUREN. When she was a mere child she was indentured to a farmer named >Palmer, who lived at the cross roads of Nine Partners, in the town of >Washington Dutchess county, on the highway between Poughkeepsie and Amenia. > >When sixteen years old she married James FANNING, a farmer. While working >in a hay field he was sun struck and died before his friends could get him >home. She says that in 1804 she was a cook in a Poughkeepsie hotel kept by >two men, one she remembers as Mr. HATCH.(Mr. HATCH kept the old Forbus House >where the NELSON House now stands.) She was then a widow with five >children, but she does not remember the age of the eldest. Her landlady, >Mrs. NEWTON, thinks the child was about eight years old in 1804, deriving >her impression from what the old lady has said about her family during the >past ten years. If that was the correct age of the first of her five >children - it seems very probable - Mrs. SEAMAN must now be 103 years old, >but the Customs Inspector alluded to the above, who has hand many chats with >the old lady in the past six or seven years, calculates her age at 111. >When asked how she fixed the date of 1804 as the time she was employed in >the Po'keepsie hotel, Mrs. SEAMAN replied, "Aaron BURR often stopped at the >hotel, and he liked the way I broiled and seasoned a beefsteak. Very >shortly after his duel with Hamilton he came there and calling for me, >"Kate, I want you to cook me a steak. The papers at the time were very full >of the accounts of the duel, and Mr. BURR saw them lying on a table in the >barroom. He told Mr. HATCH they were put there to insult him, and he went >away without eating the breakfast I had cooked for him. You know the duel >was in 1804." > >Her second husband was Nathaniel SEAMAN. He was a widower with five >children when he married her, and was a well-digger by occupation. He died >from asphyxiation caused by foul gases in a well he was digging. She cannot >remember the date of her second marriage, nor the time of SEAMAN's death. >Her third husband's name was PARDEE, and he was captain of a canal boat. He >died suddenly while away from home, and was buried by strangers. > >She was asked if she recollected when the British troops were in New York, >and she said she did, adding, "I was a bit of a girl then, but old enough to >understand what the people were talking about. I know they said the war was >over and mother told father they wouldn't have to pay the English any more >for tea, or something like that. May be I would have forgotten all about >Evacutation Day and what it meant if it hadn't been for the ball we had >every year when the day came around. I was very fond of dancing and went to >all the balls given in that part of the country when I was a girl." > >Her recollection of the conversation in relation to the Tea tax indicates >that she must have been more than three years old at the time and therefore >more than 103 years old now. > >Mr. and Mrs. NEWTON, and others who know Mrs. SEAMAN, give her credit for >truthfulness, and do not doubt that she is at least 103 years old. She is >active when well, and of choice helps with the housework, "to kill time" as >she expresses it. Her appetite is good and she relishes food. The only >thing she worries over is the fear of dying when alone in the night and for >this reason she is the last person in the house to go to bed and the first >to rise in the morning. Two of SEAMAN's sons live in Williamsburg. Their >step mother vists them occasionally. >-------------------------------- >1880 Census - 16th Ward, District 12, New York, New York (Manhattan) >[familysearch.org] >Henry NEWTON Self M Male W 49 NY Painter NY NY >Maggie NEWTON Wife M Female W 47 NY Keeping House NY NY >Kate SEAMAN Mother W Female W 94 NY At Home NY NY >-------------------------------- I think Katie Seaman may be Catherine Finen who was married by Dr. Cuyler Nov 10 1825 to Nathaniel N. Seaman. That is the sum total of what I know. Whoever can add to this fascinating account, please do so. Carolyn M. Seaman

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IYGBAIB/577.1.1 Message Board Post: I don't think so, I traced my John back to Germany, but that's as far as I got.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Seaman,Sanders,Hills,Dunphy Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IYGBAIB/531.6 Message Board Post: Hey Don, You may want to check out the Seaman queries,at the top where it mentions a man by the name of Robert Seaman of Fishkill,NY.It mentions a man by the name of Abraham Seamons in the query.Maybe this is your Abraham???

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Seaman,Hills,Dunphy,Sanders Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IYGBAIB/539.1 Message Board Post: You may want to check out the history of Capt. John Seaman.Just type in Capt. John Seaman,this may help you some what.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Seaman,Sanders,Hills,Curtis,Dunphy Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IYGBAIB/577.1 Message Board Post: Would you happen to know if your John Seaman was a descendant of Capt. John Seaman of Essex England?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IYGBAIB/592 Message Board Post: Abstract: Source: Robert Seaman, will, 12 September 1842, proved 9 July 1845, photocopies citing (1) Dutchess County probate file no. 3950, (2) Dutchess County Liber O, pp. 218-222, both from Surrogate's Court, Poughkeepsie, New York. Both obtained 24 July 2004 courtesy of Diane Koenig of Copake, NY. Information in brackets added from other documents in the probate file. Robert Seaman, of Fishkill, Dutchess County, New York, last will and testament, 12 September 1842, [d. 14 April 1845] gives first, eight hundred dollars to wife Nancy. Next, gives fifty dollars to son James [of Groton, Tompkins County, [NY]] and fifty dollars apiece to son James' two eldest sons [Isaac]. The remainder of his estate is divided equally between sons Sutton, Daniel, Robert Jr. [of Beekman], Abraham [of Beekman], Isaac [of Bergen, Genessee County, [NY]] and Jacob and daughters Phebe Griffin, wife of Eli W. Griffin [of Fishkill] and Fanny Blackman the wife of Elisha Blackman [of Middlebury, CT]. Executors: sons Sutton, Daniel [renounced responsibility 22 August 1845] and Jacob, all of Fishkill. Witnesses: William Homan and John Z. Homan, both of Fishkill. Transcription: [p.221] In the name of God amen The last will and Testament of Robert Seamons of the town of Fishkill in the county of Dutches and state of New York. I Robert Seamons considering the uncertainty of this Mortal life and being of sound mind and memory (blessed be almighty God for the same) Do make and publish this my last will and Testament in the manner and form following that is to say. First of all - I give and rec- ommend my soul to the hands of Almighty God that gave it and my body I ["commit" is x'd out here] recommend to the Earth to be buried in a decect Chris- tianlike Manner Secondly, It is my will and I do order my execu- tors to sell and dispose of all my real estate or property that I may Dye Seized of in different Lots, or all together as my Executors may think proper, and to give a title to the purchases or purchasors thereof according to Law in such made and provided. And also it is my will and order that my Executors sell and dispose of all my personal property or Estate in the best way and Manner that they may judge best and proper for the purposes hereinafter particularly mentioned. First, it is my will and order that my Executors pay my funeral Expenses and all just and Lawful debts out of the avails or moneys arising from the property above ordered to be sold. Secondly, I give and be- qeuath unto my beloved wife Nancy in lieu or right of her Dower Eight hundred Dollars Item I give and bequeath unto my son James Seamons Fifty dollars Item I give and bequeath unto the two Eldest sons of James Seamans my Grand children the sum of Fifty dollars Each. Item I give and bequeath unto my sons and [p.222] daughters Sutton Seamans Daniel Seamans Robert Seamans Jnr. Abraham Seamons Isaac Seamons and Jacob Seamans and Phebe Griffin the wife of Eli W. Griffin And Fanny Blackman the wife of Elisha Blackman all the residue or remainder of the moneys arising out of my Estate and all debts Notes and obligations which may be owing to me at the time of my deceased [sic] to be Equally divided between them I do hereby appoint Sutton Seamons Dan- iel Seamons and Jacob Seamons all of the town of Fishkill Coun- ty of Dutches sole Executors of this my last will and Testament I do hereby Revoke all former Wills and Testaments by me made In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this twelfth day of September in the year of Our Lord one thousand Eight hundred and forty two Robert Seamans LS The above instrument consisting of one sheet of paper was now [?] sub- scribed By Robert Seamons the testator in presence of each of us and was at the same time declared by him to be his last will and Testament - and we at his request signed our names [?] as attesting Witnesses William Homan Residing in Fishkill Dutches County LS John Z. Homan Residing in Fishkill Dutches County LS

I've "rescued" two HICKMAN Family letters, the first is from Will & Lide HICKMAN to Will's parents and is dated 1876. The letter contains the following clues: -Judson BELL gives us the news -Lide got home with the grapes -Kate GASKILL was very much tickled with the grapes -SMITH Family moved and the KISTLER Family has moved in -Arch had a fever and Will wants to write him -Sol named his boy after Will -Will asks his Father to sell his sleigh possibly to Cyrus ROADS in trade for blacksmithing The second letter is one from Solomon HICKMAN Jr. to Sol. G. HICKMAN and his wife and is dated 1880. The second letter contains the following additional clues: -Abel & Stephen have been "lawing" suggesting to me that they are both lawyers -horse borrowed from Billy HIGE -deaths of Jack BELL, Birt CASE, Sam Rice MARTIN's wife and son Tom, and Miss THOMAS of Jefferson -Mike & Louisa and the children are well -Jake GREENLEE bought Denny's place -Frank BRADLEY is living with Aunt Barbara HICKMAN in Wooster -Mrs. BUNEGARNER moved into Peora HANSA's with her boys Dave & Sam -Dave married Milla HUGHES daughter of Charley and Sam married Joe GWYN's daughter -Arch is well -Visited with Will in Virginia -bought land in Mannington, Marian Co., West Virginia -Morgan BELL is dead -Tom VERNON testified against John R. Based on limited research I believe that the first letter was written by William HICKMAN b. about 1846 at Jefferson, PA to his parents Solomon Crabel HICKMAN & Elizabeth or Eliza CAREY. William (age 31) and his wife Frances (age 28) were living in Whiteley, PA with two children during the 1880 census. The children included are Charley B. (age 6), and a daughter Jessie (age 2), all having been born in Pennsylvania. I believe that "Arch" referenced in both letters is a brother to Will and Solomon G. HICKMAN, Archibald HICKMAN b. 1842 at Jefferson, PA and the son of Solomon Crabel HICKMAN and Elizabeth or Eliza CAREY. Archibald HICKMAN married Ellen GOTCH in 1871. The second letter was written to Solomen G. (Solomon Goldsmith) HICKMAN who in 1880 (age 38) along with his wife Mary C. HICKMAN (age 30) were living in Troy, Iowa with their four children according to the 1880 census. Their four children include, Allice E. (age 10), Solamon (age 8), Jonathan (age 6), and William (age 3). Solomon Goldsmith HICKMAN was b. 30 Nov 1840 at Jefferson, PA to parents Solomon Crabel HICKMAN and Elizabeth or Eliza CAREY, Solomon Goldsmith died 14 Nov 1939. His wife Mary Cynthia SEAMAN place of birth is listed as IA, the couple married on 5 Sept 1869. Their two oldest children were born in Dakota Territory, and the youngest two children born in IA. I believe that the second letter was written by Solomon Crabel HICKMAN b. 29 Nov 1807 at New Salem, PA, the son of Solomon Goldsmith HICKMAN and Elizabeth MCCOMBS. Solomon Crabel was married 6 April 1834 to Elizabeth or Eliza CAREY and Solomon Crabel HICKMAN died 20 Sept 1901. Their son Abel C. HICKMAN referenced in the second letter was b. 1844 at Jefferson, PA, married Jennie MICHAELS in 1871 and was living in Chariton, IA with Jennie (age 26) and a son Joseph B. HICKMAN (age 8) during the 1880 census. Jennie MICHAELS HICKMAN was born in Illinois and their son Joseph B. HICKMAN was born in Kansas. Abel C. HICKMAN died 25 May 1916. Another son referenced in the second letter appears to be Stephen Decatur HICKMAN b. 10 July 1836 at Jefferson, PA, died 27 June 1902. Stephen married Elizabeth Lavey TEAS on 7 March 1868 and was living in Chariton, IA with Elizabeth L. (age 38) and five children during the 1880 census. The children included, Stephen D. (age 11), Elizabeth (age 9), Charles V. (age 6), J. Harlan (age 3), and Ida (age 1), all having been born in Iowa. Tracking others that are referenced in the two letters I find Barbara A. HICKMAN (age 80) living in Wooster, Ohio with her housekeeper Jane E. MANN during the 1880 census. I find Samuel MARTIN with his wife Elizabeth MARTIN and a daughter Allice living in Jefferson, PA during the 1880 census. Joseph GWYNN b. about 1824 of Greene County, PA is the son of James GWYNN and Hester CREE. Morgan BELL b. 24 Dec 1808 in Greene County, PA to parents John BELL and Mary PHILLIPS, he died May 5th, 1880. Referenced in the second letter could be Thomas J. VERNON (age 39) of Richhill, PA who along with his wife Dorcas B. VERNON (age 39) and three children were included in the 1880 census of that town. The VERNON children included, John Mc. (age 14), Leonas L. (age 5), and Flora E. (age 10 months). I'm hoping to locate someone from this HICKMAN family so that these wonderful old family letters can be returned to the family and cared for as history should be. If you are a member of this family or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

Hello, I am new to the Seaman list and I wanted to post my information in case some other Seaman is looking for the same thing. I am looking for any information on HARRY J. SEAMAN, born in NORTH EAST (a town) in ERIE COUNTY, PA. He married MABEL FERGUSON and they had two children: ARVILLA MILLICENT SEAMAN, b. abt. 1902 in ERIE COUNTY, PA. Melvin J. Seaman, b. unknown Harry's mother's name was HARRIET GRAHAM and she was born in a BUFFALO, NY. Harry and his family lived in Erie, and Union City before moving to TX when my grandmother was 11. On the Erie County website I found the following Seamans buried in ERIE CEMETERY. I don't know if they are mine but I do know I have family buried in ERIE COUNTY. M. J. Seaman Mary Jane Seaman Samuel F. Seaman If anyone knows more than I do I would appreciate it if they would share. I am willing to share what I have.

And you now have another. I've posted several items re James Sr & Jr. Samuel Silas Seaman was James Jr's son & my great-grangfather. I'm, in Richland County, Ohio where Sam ended up. Terry "JOHN L. WHITNEY" <[email protected]> wrote: Marilyn: You have added data I have not yet uncovered. The fact that John signed his name with an X probably rules out him being a doctor. Your information on the fishing gear would indicate he was one of the Shad fisherman that Sam Ellis catered to. As you may know, James Grummon(d) Seaman married the widow Turner in Maple Grove and at some point moved to Cayuga County. Caleb is a relative that I do not have in my database, although I have him on hard copy that I need to located. When James and Mary went to Maple Grove, several other family members went with or followed later. Some of their records appear in Nashville, Barry County. As yet I do not have John nor Joanna's parents. The Grummon name is difficult to find, but I keep searching. I would like to keep up this exchange, as it seems to be beneficial. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clint and Marilyn Cannon" To: Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [SEAMAN-L] Re: Seaman's and Ellis Island > It is great to find another person researching the Seaman's of Ellis Island > and Jersey City. My ancestor is Joshua, son of John & Joanna. > > I found info in a New York genealogical publication, and have lost the > notes, that Samuel Ellis left Ellis Island in his will to his grandchild, if > when born, the child was a boy. (the grandson lived only a few months) > John Seaman testified at the daughter's hearing. Does anyone know what > happened at that hearing? Further info was not given. > > John Seaman's will was dated April, 1825 and he signed it with an X. > Samuel Cassedy, James S. Olcott and John K. Goodman witnessed the will. > Samuel was the first Board Selectman of Jersey City along with John Seaman. > James was his Pres. Pastor. (Called to Jersey City before 1824 and left > 1829). John K. was on the board of Selectman of Jersey City with John > Seaman about 1819. This will was acquired at Trenton, NJ several years ago > and about 5 years ago I tried to see the origional at the Jersey City > Courthouse. It was missing from the folder. The number of the will is > 4585B at Trenton. He, at that time, had underaged children named Catharine, > Joann, Eliza, William, Henrietta, Alfred and Henry. > He died late 1832 or early 1833. His inventory was taken March 18, 1833 and > it included a fishing seine, one lot of fishing nets and riggings, a skiff > boat, 2 fish boats, more seines and 83 fish poles. This has me believing > that he was a fisherman. His wife, Joanna, also signed with an X as her > mark. The inventory amount was $738.12. > > In a book entitled "The First Presbyterian Church of Jersey City, New > Jersey" which is Historical Discourses by Charles K. Imbrie, Stephen Seaman, > a son of John, tells that the family moved to Jersey City from Ellis Island > in 1805. > > Who is the Caleb Seaman that lived in Cayuga Co., NY and is buried near > James G. Seaman? > > Does anyone know John's or Joanna's parents? Any small bit of info would > be appreciated. > > Marilyn Cannon > > > Terry Wilson 21 Clark Avenue Shelby, OH 44875 (419) 347-6782 Researching: ALLEN, EDMAN, FERRIS, HARLAN/HARLAND,HOLLENBAUGH, HORNER, JANNY/JANNEY/JENNING, KELLER, KLINKLE, KRUNK/CRUNK/CRONK,MARING/MEARING, MAY, McCORMIC/McCORMICK, SEAMAN, SHOMO, SIFFERLIN, TOUSLEY/TOSELEY, & WILSON --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard