I am a descendant of Phebe Seaman and John Langdon (of the Langdon's of Hempstead, Long Island). John's diary indicates that Phebe's parents were Charles and Esther (or Hester) Seaman. I cannot find them or their forebears. The descendants of Captain John Seaman included a number of Phebe and/or Phoebe Seaman's. John Langdon and Phebe Seaman's son from whom I am descended was named Benjamin Seaman Langdon--and, again, there were several Benjamin Seaman's in the Captain John lineage. I do not think that John Langdon's father (also John) was a Quaker, but the elder John died before the younger was born. The younger John's mother, Catherine Clowes Langdon remarried (Samuel Rowland) and it appears that the children may have been raised Quaker. The Captain John Seaman family spawned several Quaker lines. Does anyone know anything about the Seaman's of North Castle? Particularly, Charles, Esther (Hetser), or Phebe and their forebears? My Langdon line John LANGDON md Phebe SEAMAN (bd 18 Nov 1760 North Castle, Dutchess, NY; dd 10 Jun 1841 Boston, MA ) /daughter of Charles & Esther (Hester) Seaman (No further information according to John Langdon's // genealogica//l diary in the New England Historical GenealogySociety collection) my 5G Grandparents / bd. 30 Sep 1754, Hempstead, Nassau, NY; dd. 29 Nov 1848, Boston, Suffolk, MA brd. Charlestown RC Cemetery, Boston? | Benjamin Seaman LANGDON (my GGGG Grandfather) | bd. 15 Apr 1784, Queens, NY | rel. Quaker | | John Abyathis LANGDON (my GGG Grandfather) | | bd. 23 Mar 1828, New York | | occ. ship caulker | | dd. 1896, Stony Point, New York | | | Charles David LANGDON (my GG grandfather) | | | bd. Nov 1848, Brooklyn, New York | | | occ. Jeweler | | | dd. 10 Jul 1908, Brooklyn, New York | | | brd. 12 Jul 1908 | | | | Edward Joseph Phillip Fox LANGDON (my grandfather) | | | | bd. 25 Jan 1878, Brooklyn, Kings, New York | | | | occ. Fireman | | | | rel. Catholic | | | | dd. 7 Jun 1961, New York | | | | brd. St. John's Cemetary Thank you. Ed Rockstein, son of Theresa Margaret (Langdon) ROCKSTEIN ================================================ Carolyn Seaman wrote: > At the beginning of a new year, I like to take stock of where I've > been and where I hope to go in my genealogy research. What about > you? What has been your most satisfying accomplishment on your family > research in the past year and what do you hope to accomplish in the > new year? > > Please post to the list and who knows, maybe someone else is working > on the same person as you or maybe someone else has demolished your > brick wall. You'll never know unless you post your queries. > > Carolyn Mussina Seaman, list administrator > > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Seamsn Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IYGBAIB/604 Message Board Post: I am a descendant of Thomas Seamans from Swansea, Mass. Born 1687. I am interested in learning more about this family. please email me at [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Conover, Sinclair, Seaman, Dwyer, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IYGBAIB/331.1.2 Message Board Post: Elias Boudinot Conover is my great, great grandfather. I have been trying to trace him back another generation. Maybe we can make progress together.The maiden name of his wife, Catherin(e) was either Sinclair or St. Clair (it is spelled Cinclair on their 1836 wedding certificate from Greene Street Church in NYC). I have been trying to link him to one of three Conover families in the 1830 Saddle River, NJ census, but no luck yet.My grandmother was Minnie Dwyer who was daughter of owner of one of the Long Island properties you mentioned.Mr. and Mrs Larry Seaman were guests at my parent's 1938 wedding.

I am looking for information on a Mary A. Seman/Seaman who married Michael Shields of Philadelphia before 1870. Thanks for any help, Paul

At the beginning of a new year, I like to take stock of where I've been and where I hope to go in my genealogy research. What about you? What has been your most satisfying accomplishment on your family research in the past year and what do you hope to accomplish in the new year? Please post to the list and who knows, maybe someone else is working on the same person as you or maybe someone else has demolished your brick wall. You'll never know unless you post your queries. Carolyn Mussina Seaman, list administrator

Carolyn Seaman, I have seen that the Seaman name has various spellings including SEAMON and with the added "s". Appreciate very much this information on the book and hopefully more SEAMANs will respond on this web site. Thank you for your response. Judy

Judy, There is information in the History of Yates County New York, by Cleveland C. Stafford (1873) regarding the Semans family. Note the change is spelling. However, this family can be traced back to the Long Island Seaman family. I don't have any information more recent than the family of Clayton Semans and Hannah Hunt. Clayton was born in 1816, according to Stafford, and had four children: Mary, Frank, Henry, and Fred. Sorry I don't have any further information for any of the children; however, the parents are listed in the towns of Milo and later Torrey, both in Yates County. Maybe this is the connection you are seeking. Carolyn Seaman At 03:10 PM 1/7/2005, you wrote: >1910 Sharkey, Yates NY >Myron SEAMAN 50 NY/NY/NY, married 20 yrs, General Farming >Dora 46 MI/NY/NY, 0 children alive > >1920 St Petersburg, Pinellas County, FL >M D SEAMAN 55 NY/NY/NY, Hardware Salesman >Dora G 55 NY/NY/England > >1930 St Petersburg, Pinellas, FL >Dora E SEAMAN 66, MI/NY/MI, widow, no radio, owns home $7000 valued > >Judy >[email protected]

1910 Sharkey, Yates NY Myron SEAMAN 50 NY/NY/NY, married 20 yrs, General Farming Dora 46 MI/NY/NY, 0 children alive 1920 St Petersburg, Pinellas County, FL M D SEAMAN 55 NY/NY/NY, Hardware Salesman Dora G 55 NY/NY/England 1930 St Petersburg, Pinellas, FL Dora E SEAMAN 66, MI/NY/MI, widow, no radio, owns home $7000 valued Judy [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: miller, seaman Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IYGBAIB/603 Message Board Post: Source: The Sun Gazette, Williamsport, PA Dec. 30, 2003 Deceased: Miller, Linda A (nee Seaman) Age: 48 Birth Date: Aug. 18, 1955 Birth Place: Williamsport, PA Date of Death: Dec. 2003 Place of Death: Linden, PA Full obituary upon request to [email protected] No relation to deceased.

seeking kin information CALL, Silas and Polly WHITNEY parents of: Harriet CALL THOMPSON LUMBARD 4/25/1822 to 12/23/1884 Harriet had 2 daughters with Mr. THOMPSON; Maria and Eliza (aka Elizabeth). 1863 Dix Men First Class LUMBARD, Monroe; 29; Boatman 1870 Census-Watkins, Schuyler County, NY; Page 29 303;341 LUMBARD, J.M.; 35; M; Boatman; Born Canada ----, Harriet; 49; F; Keeping House; Born NY ----, Ella; 10; F; Born NY: Father of foreign birth SEAMAN, Mrs. Eliza; 29; F; Born NY ----, Myron; 11; M; Born NY; Attended school ----, Newell; 8; M; Born NY; Attended school THOMPSON, Maria; 28; F; Born NY We do not know who Eliza Thompson SEAMAN's husband's first name; nor what happened to him. Did he die in the Civil War?? 1880 Census - Watkins, Schuyler, NY; pages 17&18 185; 195 LUMBARD, Monroe, M; 47; Married; Boatman; Born Canada; Father and mother born NH ---- Harriet M.; F; 60; Wife; Married; Keeping House; Born NY; Father and mother born VT SEAMAN, Myron D.; M; 20; Grandson; Single; born NY; father and mother born NY SEAMAN, Newell; M; 17; Grandson; Single; Baker, born NY; father and mother born NY Harriet's second husband Monroe LUMBARD is listed as living with his mother Orril in the 1850 and 1855 censuses in Dix. Myron D. SEAMAN is listed in the 1900 census in Starkey, Yates Co., NY with his wife Dora and two children. SEAMAN, Myron D. Head Sept 1859 age 40, b NY; parents b NY; Farmer ---Dora E. Wife Apr 1864; 36; md 11 yrs had 4 children 3 living; b in Michigan; her parents born in Michigan ---William; Son; July 1891; 8; born Michigan ---Margaret; Daughter; Aug 1894; 5; born Indiana Widowed mother Eliza SEAMAN lived as a boarder nearby in the 1900 census. Harriet CALL THOMPSON LUMBARD b 4/24/1822 d. 12/23/1884 Glenwood Cemetery, Schuyler County, NY (Watkins) Myron D. SEAMON b 1859 d 1925 also buried in Glenwood Cemetery. No other kin of these two appear to be buried in this cemetery???? What happened to Newell SEAMAN???? He was still alive in 1900 census. Thank you Judy [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Seaman/Barker Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5519/IYGBAIB/33.1 Message Board Post: Is 1952 her birth year? There is a Marian Seaman in my ancestry b~1900 married a man l/n Barker, they had a daughter Marie Barker in the 1920's and a son Edward Barker (killed in WWII ?). Marian Seaman had a brother Murray Seaman married to Katherine. Are any of those names in the family you are looking for information about? I think many of them were from the Herkimer NY area. Please feel free to email me if so.

Thanks to Carolyn for this information. We wouldn't be in this game if it were so easy, so let me make a few corrections. The George (Vigo) Seaman indicated was, indeed, a son of David Seaman of West Virginia. That George was born in 1813 according to an unpublished book by John House of Roane County, WV. Thomas Seaman would have been a brother to that George, and named a son George. However, census records from both Virginia and Kentucky firmly place the future Capt. George Seaman in the household of Thomas Seaman. Some Confederate records have George being from Louisa, Lawrence Co., Ky. The record from the NARA shows that he took the Oath of Allegiance at Camp Chase, Ohio and that he was from Louisa Co., Kentucky. The copyist must've been in a hurry, because 1, there was no Louisa County, and 2. this record shows him in "2 Cav." The Mounted Rifles were not exactly Cavalry, as I understand it, even though they rode horses to battle (as opposed to Infantry troops who went on foot). Their job description was then to dismount and fire from a standing position. Thanks for the opportunity to discuss "Uncle George" as my grandmother called him. Marilyn P. Steber San Diego At 07:56 PM 12/28/04, you wrote: >Dear Marilyn: > >I have a George W. Seaman, born 1837 for whom the information is as follows: > >================================================================================ >Individual Report for George W. Seaman >================================================================================ > Name: George W. Seaman > Sex: M >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Individual Information >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Birth: 16 Feb 1837 - Virginia > Baptism: > Death: After 1908 > Burial: > Cause of Death: >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Parents >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Father: Thomas Seaman (1802-1893) > Mother: Catharine McCoy (1803- ) >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Notes >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >General: > History of Lewis County Ky by Rev. Ragan, page 364: There was also a > company of Confederate troops organized mostly from this county, and > commanded by Captain Geo. Seaman, whose family lived on and owned the farm > which is now the county infirmary. > > GEORGE W. SEAMAN, Lt., Company C., 2nd Battalion Kentucky Mounted Rifles > (Confederate). No marriage found. He was indicted by the Lewis County > Grand > Jury for Treason and Horse theft and other activities during the Civil War > (Source: Affidavit of Capt. A. B. Coggeshall, US Army, Commanding > Officer of > USCI in the record of Lt. Seaman in the US National Archives; Lewis > County > Circuit Court, Civil Order Book # N, KY Dept for Libraries and Archives, > Public Records Division). He was captured by Capt. Coggeshall and was sent > (along with a letter dated 28 November 1864 calling him a "Spy" and "a > Notorious Guerilla") to the Provost Marshal General in Lexington, Ky. > Coggeshall also said they didn't want him back in that county "unless > it is > to be Shot". (Letter in the file in US NARA). After the War Lt. Seaman > signed the Pledge May 12, 1865 and was released from the Federal Prison at > Camp Chase, Ohio. [Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3986, Date of > Import: > Jun 13, 1998] > >I have never verified this information so cannot attest to its >accuracy. My information indicates that George was the son of David >Seaman and Ann Elizabeth Board, and from thence back to Capt. John. > > > >

Dear Marilyn: I have a George W. Seaman, born 1837 for whom the information is as follows: ================================================================================ Individual Report for George W. Seaman ================================================================================ Name: George W. Seaman Sex: M -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Individual Information -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Birth: 16 Feb 1837 - Virginia Baptism: Death: After 1908 Burial: Cause of Death: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Father: Thomas Seaman (1802-1893) Mother: Catharine McCoy (1803- ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Notes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- General: History of Lewis County Ky by Rev. Ragan, page 364: There was also a company of Confederate troops organized mostly from this county, and commanded by Captain Geo. Seaman, whose family lived on and owned the farm which is now the county infirmary. GEORGE W. SEAMAN, Lt., Company C., 2nd Battalion Kentucky Mounted Rifles (Confederate). No marriage found. He was indicted by the Lewis County Grand Jury for Treason and Horse theft and other activities during the Civil War (Source: Affidavit of Capt. A. B. Coggeshall, US Army, Commanding Officer of USCI in the record of Lt. Seaman in the US National Archives; Lewis County Circuit Court, Civil Order Book # N, KY Dept for Libraries and Archives, Public Records Division). He was captured by Capt. Coggeshall and was sent (along with a letter dated 28 November 1864 calling him a "Spy" and "a Notorious Guerilla") to the Provost Marshal General in Lexington, Ky. Coggeshall also said they didn't want him back in that county "unless it is to be Shot". (Letter in the file in US NARA). After the War Lt. Seaman signed the Pledge May 12, 1865 and was released from the Federal Prison at Camp Chase, Ohio. [Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #3986, Date of Import: Jun 13, 1998] I have never verified this information so cannot attest to its accuracy. My information indicates that George was the son of David Seaman and Ann Elizabeth Board, and from thence back to Capt. John.

LT. GEORGE W. SEAMAN of LEWIS COUNTY, KENTUCKY, born in Western Pennsylvania in 1837, served in 5th Kentucky Infantry in Eastern Kentucky until that unit was disbanded in 1862. He then served in Co. C. 2nd Battalion Kentucky Mounted Rifles. He was captured in November 1864 and sent to Camp Chase, Ohio. He appeared before the Circuit Court of Lewis County November 1865 term to answer charges of horse stealing, but that case was dismissed. Further contemporary records in that county were destroyed by the 1937 flood of the Ohio River. I am seeking further information about George. I believe he was still alive in 1900. Marilyn P. Steber San Diego, CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Seaman Gibson Johnson Cobb Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IYGBAIB/531.8 Message Board Post: Hi Don: I read your posting about Abraham Seaman. I am stuck on my Seaman line from NY State. My Susan Seaman who married Solomon Gibson lived in Dutchess County right around then. Washington Township, though I have seen rumors that one of their children was born in Poughkeepsie, and another born in Hyde Park. Where was your Abraham Seaman born? Where did his spend his life? Can you post more info? Johnna St Clair

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Seaman,Sanders,Hills,Dunphy Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IYGBAIB/531.7 Message Board Post: Long time no hear from Don.How's the Seaman search going? Have you found anything of Abraham?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IYGBAIB/602 Message Board Post: Recently found the above in a grave with Connolly family. I am trying to connect these Connolly's to my family. I believe Edward was married to Ellen (Ella) McConnell, who in turn may be the daughter of Bartholomew and Ellen Connolly. This Edward and Ellen were living in So. Ozone Park (1930 census). They had children: Ellen, Margaret, Edna, Thomas, Edward, Virginia, Florence. Also living with them I believe were Ellen's broth and sister Dorothy & Daniel McConnell. Not even sure if I am on the right track but thought finding Edward's grave may mean something to someone out there. He died Sept. 1955 at the age of 71. Thanks for any help.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IYGBAIB/584.1.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Sally: Our connection would be with Captain John as my Great Grandmother was Mary Alice Seaman (Theodore, David, Nehemiah, Caleb, Caleb, Jonathan, Capt John). Jonathan was the son of Capt John and his first wife Elizabeth Strickland. The book begins with Caleb Seaman UEL ~1740 - 1820 who relocated to Canada during the American Revolution and continues with some of his descendants and their travels. Hope that you find the information to be of interest. Peter

Hello Sue, Nathan Duxbury Seaman and his wife Huldah Keeler Mallory were my 3rd Great Grandparents. Huldah's (Mallory) ancestry can be traced back to the Plantagenet kings of England. I have a portrait of David Seaman - I can email it to you if you're interested. A note on JOHN EGBERT SEAMAN - I don't have a source for this: John Egbert Seaman, died a young man. The story according to Russell Stanley Seaman, was that John E. owned an automobile agency in Owen Sound, Ontario. One evening a person from Owen Sound came to the agency with a couple of men from Detroit, Michigan and a card game ensued. During that card game the two men from Detroit decided they would rob John and demanded his money. Either John didn't have any money or he would not give it to them. In either case they beat him very badly, took him out to the stone quarry and threw him into it. What the men did not know was that stone had been dug that day and from the point where he was hurled off the cliff in the dark, he landed on the pile of newly mined rock and was able to crawl out. He never recovered. Here is something on NATHAN DUXBURY SEAMAN taken from "The Family of Caleb Seaman" by Sherah Seaman. Nathan may have been Hulda's favorite son. He was the one to whom she announced her plans fo the future in March 1880. She wrote: " I intend letting someone have this place for taking care of me while I live. I would be glad to have you come...there is plenty that would be glad to take it, but I would be glad to live with some of my children...Think the matter over, and if my children will not accept the old homestead on these terms I will give it to strangers. I have never had the business in such a fair way to be settled. Nathan, I can truly say that God hath led me in a way I know not. From your loving Mother until death." Nathan accepted and he and Sarah returned to St. Vincent later that year to take care of the farm as huldah suggested. How long she might have lived we can only guess, because three years later, she died in a train accident near Flint Michigan while going to visit her daughter, Isabella, in Chicago. In 1888, Nathan sold the farm and took his family back to Nebraska. He stayed ten years before returning to his native Ontario. He and one of the Mallories entered the sawmill business about two miles north of Woodford. Later he settled south of Owen Sound. Finally he bought a mill at Sauble Falls in Bruce County which he operated with his son Theodore. It remained in the Seaman family for thirty five years until it was destroyed in a fire. DAVID SEAMAN. Excerpted from "Perpetual Pioneers" by Keith D. Weaver, pp. 16-19. In May 1834 David Seaman, his wife Huldah Keeler Mallory, and their two small children came from Brockville to the newly surveyed district along the bay shore north of Meaford, Ontario. Mrs. Seaman's brother, Price Mallory, was the Crown Land's Agent appointed by the British Government at Montreal to bring settlers to this area. The Mallory's were a well to do and influential English family - descended from the royal houses of Europe. The original settlement in Leeds County was named Mallorytown. The Seaman's and Mallory's made the trip from Brockville together and this accounts for the fact that the Seaman's were the first to apply for a deed to land in St. Vincent after the survey. They were able to travel overland as far as Penetanguishene. Beyond this there were no roads so they hired boats and landed north of Meaford on the bay shore of what is now Georgian Beach. By 1836 Price had a cabin and four acres cleared, David also had a cabin and two acres cleared. Many other settlers had planned to follow them but were held back because there was no road - although the government had promised Price Mallory that one would be built. Mallory decided to build the road at his own expense. David and Price surveyed the road with whatever help they could get. By the fall of 1835 it was completed and was known as the Mallory Trail. The government never repaid Price for building the road. David and Huldah in St. Vincent - 1850 David and Huldah Seaman were the parents of fifteen children; three of whom died as infants. The first three were born near Brockville and came with their parents to the Mallory settlement. Of the eleven children who were born in St. Vincent three died and were buried on the farm, three of the total family finished life either in the township or within fifty miles of home, and eight moved away. We can get but a fleeting glimpse of Huldah as we look back through the generations, but what we see causes us to marvel at what she accomplished under adverse conditions. For most women it would be enough to give birth to four- teen children within nineteen years, with the last one born only slightly before the mother's 46th birthday. Surely it was not comfortable to live in a shelter, later in a log cabin, and to wait five years for a living child, the first two born there having died in infancy. If this were not enough, there was the matter of care for the ever increasing family; food, clothing and education. The later children could attend a school, but the first ones were taught to read and write at home. Both David and Huldah were well educated by the standard of the time. Reading, writing and adequate calculation were taken as a matter of course, but that was what education meant to the pioneers. The day of "vocational education" was yet to come and such practical skills as blacksmithing, building bridges, houses, or surveying a field, were passed on from father to son or learned through apprenticeship to a skilled craftsman in the community. David Seaman's capabilities were of value to the St. Vincent settlement from the very beginning. When there was no road available linking what is now the Meaford area with the route from Barrie to the Nottawasaga River which had been built over twenty years before, three of the first residents, David Seaman, Price Mallory and Stephen Wilcox did considerable work on the St. Vincent end of the trail. How their work overlapped that of Charles Rankin, the surveyor is unknown, but it has been said that they built a bridge over the Big Head River at Meaford and Mallory underwrote the cost of getting the work done; an expense which he did not recover. It is known that David Seaman supervised the rebuilding of what was called "the Old Mail Road" south from Meaford to Griersville, thence to Heathcote, Duntroon and eastward to join the Barrie road at Sunnidale, when it was finally improved in 1846. David and Huldah Seaman held to their first land for over fifteen years and then moved five miles into the interior of the township. We do not know why they moved. Some have said that it was because the family had outgrown the original cabin, but this may not be true because one of the first things then, did on the new land was to build a house and this they could have done anywhere. Some others have said that they had become disillusioned with the slowness in getting land titles, and this could have been true, since it seems one way to get title to land was to prepare to sell it. It may only have been the strong pioneering instinct, to move if there was a new spot to which they could go. They chose a farm site, five miles west of Meaford, with a rolling terrain, still heavily covered with timber but with a stream to provide water power for a saw-mill. The standing forest was mainly hardwood of first rate quality. If they did not select the site of their new home for one of' the reasons noted, they may have chosen it because of the view, one of the better ones on the continent. Six miles to the east lay the Georgian Bay, with ever changing colour reflecting sunlight, cloud, and storrn, and it was always in clear view with the land sloping gently toward it. Forty miles across deep water lay the Christian Islands, visible on clear and sunny days. The family lived here for only a little over thirty years. It was here that David Seaman, his oldest son, Theodore, and all the younger ones, limited only as skill and strength dictated, built a large house of native limestone; one of the first to be built in the township from this material. Stone from the out-croppings of the Niagara Escarpment is an excellent building material, and, if this needs proof, the house is still in use as a residence after 125 years. The house was unique since nothing of it's kind had been built before. One of it's main features, almost incredible in concept and design, was a room capable or seating thirty Methodists gathered for prayer and worship before the first church was built. Later, David was among those who built the church, two miles away, and he was the first chairman of the cemetery board on the location where he is buried. It is hard for us to assess the impact of the house. A lady still living in Washington State wrote a letter recently in which she said, "I remember my grandmother (Julia Anne Seaman) telling me about the old stone house. How I would loved to have seen it." In 1850 David Seaman was appointed township surveyor and was paid five shillings per day when he was working. His task was to interpret the original survey, done by Charles Rankin, as it related to farmers' boundaries with neighbouring land and road allowances passing through uncleared woods. This, as much as anything, gives us a picture of the country-side at mid-point of the nineteenth century. Before we leave the David Seaman's in their new home let us take a look at the family. The fifth decade of the nineteenth century was the beginning of change. The three eldest, Theodore, Amy Jane and Julia Anne were married. Peter Howard was fourteen at the time of Julia's wedding, and the last child, David Lemuel was born a year later. In between there were six others of various ages, all growing up. And so, we leave them, but before we do we must mention Anne who was sixteen in 1858, the year she began to teach in a log school a little more than three miles west of the family farm. She was the second teacher there, a man having begun the school two years earlier. As far as we know she was the first female teacher in the township and had been educated at the first school built near her original home where she also taught as she continued her work among the pioneers. Later she married Archelaus Doran, lived in St. Vincent Township all of her long life, was the only one of David Seaman's family to do so and was noted in a history of the County of Grey as possibly the first career woman in the county. There are a great many of her descendants still in the township where the family has resided for almost 150 years. HULDAH KEELER MALLORY. Excerpted from "Perpetual Pioneers" by Keith D. Weaver, pp. 9-15. The Mallory Settlement In St. Vincent Township - 1835-1846 The Mallorys become a part of this story only because Huldah Keeler Mallory married David Seaman, Nehemiah's son. The "Keeler" was retained in her name to show respect for a revered ancestor now forgotten. Before we consider the Mallorys and their impact on St. Vincent Township we should note that Nehemiah, who continued Caleb's blacksmith shop after his death, had his own impact on the community where he lived. Nehemiah had married Margaret McCready, a Loyalist who had come to Canada with her family but who had not lived in the American colonies very long since she had been born in Glasgow, Scotland. Nehemiah and Margaret built the first stone house in Brockville, helped found the first Presbyterian church there, and were the parents of ten children. He died accidentally in 1830 when he fell from a bridge during a storm. David, his son, was married in the same year. It should be noted in passing that, while this is the story of the migrations of the Seaman family who rarely seemed to have stayed anywhere for very long, they had been in Brockville for 45 years. In any case, it is Price Mallory, Huldah's older brother by ten years, who becomes the central character for the next decade. The Mallorys were an old English family of Norman origin and the best known was Sir Thomas, who wrote the legends of King Arthur, Morte d' Arthur, upon which Tennyson's poem was based. It is believed that they first appeared in North America some time before the American Revolution when four brothers settled in Connecticut. Later some moved to Vermont. Three Mallorys are listed as having come to Canada along with Jessup's Rangers who were assigned land along the St. Lawrence River. They were Enoch, Elisha and Jeremiah, believed to be cousins of Price Mallory. The village of Mallorytown commemorates the name and a number of the family settled there. While thev were mainly farmers, they engaged in other activities and are considered the first to manufacture glass in Upper Canada. Sir John Colborne, Governor-General of "The Canadas", Quebec and Canada West, was based in Montreal, and seemed interested in the settlement of the new province. It was to him that Price Mallory applied for permission to establish a settlement in St. Vincent Township, along the shores of Georgian Bay. This was in 1834 and his request was granted. The purpose of' the award was to provide 200 acres of land to descendants of United Empire Loyalists or to others who had retired after service in the British army. Mallory was given 10,000 acres in the first three concessions west of the Georgian Bay, extending north from lot 22 to the lake. He promised to settle fifty families and to build a mill within two years. The governor promised to have a road built to the area and to suspend the witholding of one-seventh of the Crown Land for clergy reserves. The clergy reserves stipulation was the only one fully met. In the early summer of 1835 the first two families came to the township. They were the Price Mallorys, the David Seamans, their children and seven other men who, while not intending to stay, had agreed to assist them in the move. There is no doubt about the date of their arrival, although some accounts suggest that it occurred the year before. It is suspected that David Seaman and Price Mallory may have visited the land at the time the grant was made. They followed the route which was to be travelled by others who came later, since almost all of the settlers came from the Brockville district. The first leg of the journey was by ship, west on Lake Ontario to York at the foot of Yonge Street, built by Governor Simcoe at the beginning of the nineteenth century and used for military purposes as well as settlement. They moved north on Yonge Street by wagon to Holland Landing from whence they continued by ship down the river and across Lake Simcoe. At this point they expected to transfer their belongings back to wagons, travel the existing roads to the Nottawasaga River and then proceed to St. Vincent by the new road which the government was to have built. When they found that it was only a trail which could not support wagons they sold them for whatever they could get and acquired four boats with which to go down the river and across Georgian Bay. They had started in early July with sixteen head of cattle, five horses, four wagons, some hogs and personal belongings. We do not know what they had left when they reached St. Vincent but, given the equipment and help with which they started it is obvious that the expedition had been well planned. Two boats upset, one beached on the shore and everything they had was finally consolidated in the one remaining ship. They reached St. Vincent Township, north of Meaford, about the 30th of September. We know nothing of their first winter except that they had come too late to grow a crop of any kind and, while game was plentiful, flour delivered to the area cost fifteen dollars a barrel. Obviously they must have been hard pressed to build a cabin with a fireplace before the snow settled over the forest. They were not the first in the area for there were four or five settlers living a few miles southeast and the surveyor responsible for laying out the township was ten miles away. There were wandering Indians, itinerant missionaries and fur traders who moved through from time to time. Otherwise there were the two families, their young children and the solitude. It was some time before anyone else came to the Mallory settlement and during the following months there were several others. They all followed the same route and, by this time, some of them came by the trail rather than crossing the bay. The route of the trail or "road" was now established; the Nottawasaga River, Sunnidale, Duntroon, Heathcote (although these villages did not exist) and north, roughly along the present route of the fourth concession of St. Vincent. It was called "the road", but at that time it was almost impassable. The incoming settlers must have had a general idea of where they were going without precise directions as to how to get there. This was particularly true of one family whose ship captain took them past York as far west as Hamilton before they discovered that it would be necessary to turn back. There were some who became discouraged by the long trek up Yonge Street, and stopped and settled near Newmarket. Of those who did make it to the site, some stayed and some did not. It was the Governor who had promised a road, but it would be built by the Government of Upper Canada, and herein was the problem. The Legislative Council, often referred to as "The Family Compact" because of a tendency to keep everything within the control of those they knew and trusted, would show respect for the Governor's actions, but would provide only token sup- port and less than enthusiastic assistance. They had their own arrangements for assigning land and would see the Mallory settlement as an annoyance. Charles Rankin, who surveyed many of the townships in the area, hurried up his work in St. Vincent to accommodate the settlement. We can learn much from his reports to Peter Robinson, Commissioner of Crown Lands. There were times when he was positively optimistic - "The road has been completed and I have paid off the men." Or, "The road will assist settlers to move in with their working cattle." At this time the road was little better than a blazed trail through the woods. At other times his annoyance showed when he wrote, "If they had only come to me it would have been so much easier." He also wrote, "I fear they will meet up with other settlers who have claim to the land." This was natural enough since it has been reported by G.P. de T. Glazebrook in Life in Ontario - A Social History that surveyors were given over 200,000 acres of land for their own disposal. There was nothing unusual about this; it was a perquisite attached to the job. But what about Price Mallory? He comes through as well-meaning, less efficient than the circumstances demanded, and naive in his expectations. He seemed to have believed that one word from the Governor would solve all his problems, and so that he might get verification of the original agreement, he wrote several letters to the Governor, but there was no response. The Governor had other problems; the rebellion of 1837, American influences in Canada, money to pay the army, when he would be recalled to Britain, and (in the case of Sir Charles Metcalfe) failing health. And what about the settlers? They were no different than any other habitual pioneers. They preferred to live on the forefront of civilization; they knew how to do so, and they had the confidence of the very religious that all would be well for those who loved God and followed His precepts. They knew how to cope with their environment. They had difficulty in getting title to their land and this was their major complaint. From where they stood, surrounded by woods and the stumps of fallen trees, it was difficult for them to understand that the government of the time had doubts as to whether it was wise to give them title or not. As one official put it, "if they (the settlers) get title to land they will have the right to vote!" Worse than that, they were living in a time of overlapping jurisdictions when it was possible to receive title to land and, upon arrival at the location, find someone else living upon it. The first government sponsored census of the township of St. Vincent occurred in 1836. It was a report on almost all of the township, showing lots vacant or occupied. The study was made by Wellesley Richey, a settlement officer from Barrie, who did a surprisingly thorough study considering the wilderness with which he had to deal. His report has not been disputed by anyone, including Price Mallory who challenged many of the letter written by people who knew (or thought they knew) something of the settlement. He listed Mallory, David Seaman, and others who had come to the township. He named nineteen settlers claiming lots on the Mallory land, although they were not all living on it. Some of them "were away working", and some had "gone to get their families". It also listed two others who had taken up land in St. Vincent before the Mallory people came. The second report was signed by a Henry Sullivan, who appears to have represented the chief surveyor's office and who has often been confused with R.B. Sullivan, who was the Commissioner of Crown Lands in 1840 when the survey was made. Price Mallory challenged this report as inaccurate and this is now known to be true, since there were people living there at the time who were not listed. David Seaman was one of these. By this time Mallory had a mill in operation, although it was later than stipulated in his agreement with the Governor. It was described as providing a poor service, with a leaky dam, and inadequate water at the best of times. Nevertheless, the report admitted that it did grind grain in small quantities. And so everything went on much as it was; settlers complained about the lack of titles, Price Mallory wrote letters to the Governor-General and there were no replies. Finally, in 1846, he died of a "broken heart." It was first thought he died in the settlement but it is now believed that his death occurred in Prince Edward County while he was on a visit to Montreal to clear up land titles disputed in his father's estate. He was 47, and his manv problems may have shortened his life. There was one further look at the settlement which should be recorded, because it describes progress which can be understood now although it may, not have been seen as such at the time. A.M. Stephens, later Mayor of' Owen Sound, visited the Mallory settlement with instructions "to buy as much wheat as lie could get at $1.00 per bushel." He travelled by sailing ship with others. They anchored offshore and were visited by Mallory's son who invited Stephens to spend the night at the Mallory home. He did and he reports: "The construction of' the Mallory dwelling with its surroundings, internal arrangements, the dress and manner of its inmates, formed a fair representation of' the homes of the Canadian pioneer My impression of the proprietor at this time was, that though evidentally past the prime of life, he was quite unconscious of having any loss either in mental or physical vigour, and while his countenance displayed a fair share of good nature, the man who attempted to impose upon him would have found himself sadly mistaken in the character of the person with whom he had to deal ... Being completely isolated from the older portions of the province, and having neither grist mill* or store, their rnode of living is very primitive. Their clothing was chiefly of home manufacture and those who used tobacco grew it themselves." A.M. Stephens met a number of the settlers and recorded their names. The list is interesting since he noted twelve of the settlers Mallory brought to St. Vincent in the first place but also twenty-five others who had come to St. Vincent following the original pioneers. Among them are some of the names often recorded as the first to arrive in the township. The fourth decade of the nineteenth century is recognized as a time of rapid expansion in the settlement of Upper Canada and St. Vincent was no excep- tion. While the Mallory development was insignificant insofar as numbers were concerned it bore the brunt of the confusion in jurisdiction which was all too prevalent in the 1830s and those who followed benefitted from the work done by these early pioneers. In all, Mallory brought about thirty-five families to the township. It is difficult to strike an exact figure for, as some left and were replaced by others, it can not always be determined whether they were Mallory people or not. Many moved on and their names no longer appear on the township rolls, but there are some who stayed. Those who left disappeared like construction workers who leave a remote project as soon as it starts to take shape and civilization begins to appear. They have taken their place among those who became the perpetual pioneers and continued to open up the remainder of the continent. *The 1840 mill had ceased and the nearest one was five miles away Mike Burley ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: [SEAMAN] Re: Grey County Seamans > You are not bothering me at all...just been busy > My grandmother was Edith Lilian Seaman > Her father was John > Grandfather Nathan Duxbury Seaman > Gt Grandfather David Seaman of Meaford ...he married Huldah Keeler > Mallory of Elizabethtown > Gt Grandfather 2 was Caleb Seaman, a United Empire Loyalist, who > married Martha Jackson > GGF 3 was a Caleb, GGF 4 was Jonathon > Then Jonathon's father was Captain John, with Elizabeth Strickland > > Take care > Sue

You are not bothering me at all...just been busy My grandmother was Edith Lilian Seaman Her father was John Grandfather Nathan Duxbury Seaman Gt Grandfather David Seaman of Meaford ...he married Huldah Keeler Mallory of Elizabethtown Gt Grandfather 2 was Caleb Seaman, a United Empire Loyalist, who married Martha Jackson GGF 3 was a Caleb, GGF 4 was Jonathon Then Jonathon's father was Captain John, with Elizabeth Strickland Take care Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 6:06 PM Subject: [SEAMAN] Re: Grey County Seamans > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IYGBAIB/584.1.3 > > Message Board Post: > > Hi Susan, Hope I'm not repeating myself. I have been very busy. Who is > your Grandmother Seaman? Sally > > >