Earlier I asked "Who were the children of Wilbert SEAMAN of NY?" I was wrong, the name should have been Willett. Terry === Terry Wilson 40 S. Gamble Street Shelby, OH 44875 Researching: ALLEN, COLTMAN, EDMAN, FERRIS, HARLAN/HARLAND, HOLLENBAUGH, HORNER, JANNY/JANNEY/JENNING, KELLER, KLINKLE, KRUNK/CRUNK/CRONK,MARING/MEARING, MAY, McCORMIC/McCORMICK, SEAMAN, SHOMO, SIFFERLIN, TOUSLEY/TOSELEY, & WILSON _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Who were the children of Wilbert SEAMAN of NJ?? Terry === Terry Wilson 40 S. Gamble Street Shelby, OH 44875 Researching: ALLEN, COLTMAN, EDMAN, FERRIS, HARLAN/HARLAND, HOLLENBAUGH, HORNER, JANNY/JANNEY/JENNING, KELLER, KLINKLE, KRUNK/CRUNK/CRONK,MARING/MEARING, MAY, McCORMIC/McCORMICK, SEAMAN, SHOMO, SIFFERLIN, TOUSLEY/TOSELEY, & WILSON _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

It appears that David Seaman who died in Western Virginia (before it was "West") was the son of Willets Seaman of New Jersey, not "Wilbert" of New Jersey. This "Wilbert" was from an undated abstract, and the original record is stored away because of its fragility. (Donna Lee Seaman Marshall of Mo. told me it was very hard to read the name, but the county clerk issues the death certificate with David born in New Jersey of parents Wilbert and Mary Seaman) The name Willet and Willis come down the descendant line in sons and grandsons of David. Not to mention all the Davids. It looks this way: West Virginia David6, Willets5, David4, David3, Jonathan2, John1. Is that enough generations, or is there another John or two in there? Willets5 was a son of David, jr. and Mary Willets. In a codicil of David jr.s Will (1759) he left his blacksmith shop and tools to his sons David and Willets. Willets went to New Jersey and he and Obediah Seaman sued Joseph Lewis for a sum of money in 1772 and won the case. The Rev War came along and Willets was captured by the Brits. The date of capture as the Attorney General has it says May, but another record says November. I believe he was captured in the battle for New York or the battle at Ft. Lee, NJ in November. (Votes of NJ Assembly, page 107; Journal of Council, page 45) After 2 years Willets was exchanged. In 1780 Joseph Lewis was directed to pay Willets and Obediah "one hundred nine Pounds and two shillings," according to the Original Court of Common Pleas record, and $1132.30/90ths according to the abstract sent to me by the NJ archives, Willets alone. This abstract also says that Joseph Lewis was "Quartermaster at Morristown". Willets Seaman's son David was paying property taxes in Monongalia Co. in western Virginia in 1799. There were other Seamans in that county, one of whom was John who was a stone cutter who went to Ohio eventually. That stone cutter John Seaman was the man mentioned in Evans and Stivers' History of Adams County, Ohio as "the father of Franklin Seaman". He died in 1835 after having worked on the excavation of Hollingsworth House in West Union, Ohio. The History says he died of Cholera. The general contractor Mr. Hamilton Dunbar died the same day of Cholera. David's children by Ann Elizabeth Board (sister of Patrick Board, Rev War vet) were John, Susannah, Thomas, Silas Board, Ann Elizabeth, Willet Allen and George Vigo. (John House's History of Roane County) Stanley Seaman has a web-page with descendants of Silas Board Seaman, compiled by Donna Lee Seaman Marshall. I descend from Thomas Seaman through his daughter Mary Jane Seaman Sparks. Marilyn Steber Researching: Sparks of KY; Potter of NY; Oppenborn of FL; Tuphorn of Wisconsin; and Seaman of NJ. ---- Marilyn Steber 4464 Castelar Street #104 San Diego, California.

Does anyone have info on: James Grumnon SEAMAN m 29 Jun 1822 in Bergen, NJ to Mary CRONK? Terry === Terry Wilson 40 S. Gamble Street Shelby, OH 44875 Researching: ALLEN, COLTMAN, EDMAN, FERRIS, HARLAN/HARLAND, HOLLENBAUGH, HORNER, JANNY/JANNEY/JENNING, KELLER, KLINKLE, KRUNK/CRUNK/CRONK,MARING/MEARING, MAY, McCORMIC/McCORMICK, SEAMAN, SHOMO, SIFFERLIN, TOUSLEY/TOSELEY, & WILSON _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

This is the address for the LDS site which, as of 9:00 p.m. on Tuesday is working. It's slow and frequently you get a busy signal. I did manage to try one name and got a response. Looks like it will be very heavily used so be aware that you may not get through. However, it beats driving to the nearest FHC and having only a half hour to work! http://32.96.111.13/default.asp I'll let you know if I find a better url for the site. Carolyn Mussina Seaman Kinderhook, NY <gregseaman@berk.com>

I think your "trivia" is fascinating. Makes this work much more interesting than simply a list of names and dates. And I bet that Martin V. B. Searing was Martin Van Buren Searing. Our illustrious 8th president was born about .5 mile from where I live. Wonder what the connection was with the Searings, if any? And Martin was not such a popular president. I can understand Abraham Lincoln (blank) or George Washington Seaman (seem to have seen lots of those). But Martin Van Buren? If it were not for the local grade school children trooping out to the cemetery every Dec 5 to lay a wreath on his tomb, I expect that the ceremony would go largely unattended, at least by the locals. Carolyn Mussina Seaman Kinderhook, NY <gregseaman@berk.com> -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn Steber [mailto:mpsteber@cts.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 9:33 AM To: SEAMAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SEAMAN-L] More Morris Co. Kinfolks The Searings were a related family of the Seamans as well as the Dotys. Here's an interesting entry in the Index of Deeds in Morris County in 1870: Grantor was Moses Doty and Grantees were Isaac W Searing and V. B. Martin. Book Z-7, Page 259. My first impulse was to think V. B. Martin was a Martin but farther down the page in 1872 is Searing, Martin V. B, Grantee and the Dover Cemetery Assoc'n as Grantor. Must've bought a plot there. If this trivia is not appropriate to the Seaman list, please inform. Marilyn Researching: Sparks of KY; Potter of NY; Oppenborn of FL; Tuphorn of Wisconsin; and Seaman of NJ. ---- Marilyn Steber 4464 Castelar Street #104 San Diego, California.

Martin Van Buren Searing was Isaac Webb Searing's brother. Martin's first name evidently came from his mother, Phoebe Martin. Dave Searing DAVE3751@aol.com

The Searings were a related family of the Seamans as well as the Dotys. Here's an interesting entry in the Index of Deeds in Morris County in 1870: Grantor was Moses Doty and Grantees were Isaac W Searing and V. B. Martin. Book Z-7, Page 259. My first impulse was to think V. B. Martin was a Martin but farther down the page in 1872 is Searing, Martin V. B, Grantee and the Dover Cemetery Assoc'n as Grantor. Must've bought a plot there. If this trivia is not appropriate to the Seaman list, please inform. Marilyn Researching: Sparks of KY; Potter of NY; Oppenborn of FL; Tuphorn of Wisconsin; and Seaman of NJ. ---- Marilyn Steber 4464 Castelar Street #104 San Diego, California.

1778 Tax ratables Morris County, NJ: David Mott, 1779, Daniel Doty was taxed for 1 horned cattle; Samuel Doty was taxed for 1 horse, 2 horned cattle, 2 hogs. 1780 Thomas Doughty had 14 acres, 1 horse 2 horned cattle 2 hogs and there was a mark this year for Householders, 1. This tax ratable is alphabetical. By First name! Never saw that before! Marilyn Researching: Sparks of KY; Potter of NY; Oppenborn of FL; Tuphorn of Wisconsin; and Seaman of NJ. ---- Marilyn Steber 4464 Castelar Street #104 San Diego, California.

Just in case you ever need it - a site giving names and assignments of Civil War naval oficers. http://www.history.navy.mil/wars/cw/cwframe.htm Terry === Terry Wilson 40 S. Gamble Street Shelby, OH 44875 Researching: ALLEN, COLTMAN, EDMAN, FERRIS, HARLAN/HARLAND, HOLLENBAUGH, HORNER, JANNY/JANNEY/JENNING, KELLER, KLINKLE, KRUNK/CRUNK/CRONK,MARING/MEARING, MAY, McCORMIC/McCORMICK, SEAMAN, SHOMO, SIFFERLIN, TOUSLEY/TOSELEY, & WILSON _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

>From: "Jim Rubins" <jmrubins@napanet.net> >To: "Marilyn Steber" <mpsteber@cts.com> >Subject: Re: [SEAMAN-L] Morristown Seamans >Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 02:49:13 -0800 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 > >TELL US MORE! >TELL US MORE! > >-----Original Message----- >From: Marilyn Steber <mpsteber@cts.com> >To: SEAMAN-L@rootsweb.com <SEAMAN-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 7:07 AM >Subject: [SEAMAN-L] Morristown Seamans > > >>While going through all the court of common pleas records of Morristown NJ >>I found Doty, Doughty, Mott, all names that have connection with the Seaman >>family. One Doty was a Mayflower passenger I understand. Gershom Mott was >>a judge in Morris County for years. Jacob and Isaac Doty were found on >>these microfilms also. I believe the first time I saw them was in the >1760s. >>M >>Researching: Sparks of KY; Potter of NY; Oppenborn of FL; >>Tuphorn of Wisconsin; and Seaman of NJ. >>---- >>Marilyn Steber >>4464 Castelar Street #104 >>San Diego, California. >> >> >>>>I may have to buy this microfilm for the SD FHC. Every time I look at it I find someone of interest and I regret returning the ones I did. Here are the numbers if you want to read them: Minutes of Morris County New Jersey Court of Common Pleas, Vol 1 1740-1754, Salt Lake's #0961259; vols. 2-3 1754-1766 #0961299; vols 4-6 1766-1778 #0961249; vol 7-? 1778-1792 #0961250. 1766-1778 I still have. (These were filmed in 1974.) Cost is $3.75 a film to rent. I discarded the one after 1778 because Willets didn't appear on the Morris county tax ratables after 1787 and I thought he might have left Morristown. There were no other Seamans that I found on the Morris County tax ratables 1778-1822. I've narrowed down the Morristown Seamans' sojourn to 1772-1787 so far. Not bad for a State that has the reputation of burning marriage records over 20 years old, huh!? See Stryker-Rodda's book "Digging for Ancestors in the Garden State" for that tidbit. In re: the Pilgrim Edward Doty Family: they were featured in this month's Mayflower Quarterly. For more about them write to Mary Lee Merrill, 514 Martin Point Road, Friendship, ME04547-4343. They admit anyone interested in Doughty, Doty, Dotte, Dotey, any other variation on the name. Not Dougherty with an r. Stay tuned. Marilyn > > > Researching: Sparks of KY; Potter of NY; Oppenborn of FL; Tuphorn of Wisconsin; and Seaman of NJ. ---- Marilyn Steber 4464 Castelar Street #104 San Diego, California.

Sorry, I was too quick on the trigger with the first attempt. Here's something you may or may not have seen before. http://www.censuslinks.com/directory Terry === Terry Wilson 40 S. Gamble Street Shelby, OH 44875 Researching: ALLEN, COLTMAN, EDMAN, FERRIS, HARLAN/HARLAND, HOLLENBAUGH, HORNER, JANNY/JANNEY/JENNING, KELLER, KLINKLE, KRUNK/CRUNK/CRONK,MARING/MEARING, MAY, McCORMIC/McCORMICK, SEAMAN, SHOMO, SIFFERLIN, TOUSLEY/TOSELEY, & WILSON _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Many of you have already seen this but for the rest ......... http://www.funeral.com/cemetery_listings/northamerica/ Terry === Terry Wilson 40 S. Gamble Street Shelby, OH 44875 Researching: ALLEN, COLTMAN, EDMAN, FERRIS, HARLAN/HARLAND, HOLLENBAUGH, HORNER, JANNY/JANNEY/JENNING, KELLER, KLINKLE, KRUNK/CRUNK/CRONK,MARING/MEARING, MAY, McCORMIC/McCORMICK, SEAMAN, SHOMO, SIFFERLIN, TOUSLEY/TOSELEY, & WILSON _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

In Court of Common Pleas Morristown, NJ March Term 1774: Phillip Tucker vs. Micah Seaman. So that makes Obediah, Willets and Micah all in that county from 1772 until at least 1787, the last date I reported Willets was there. Anybody know Micah? Marilyn Researching: Sparks of KY; Potter of NY; Oppenborn of FL; Tuphorn of Wisconsin; and Seaman of NJ. ---- Marilyn Steber 4464 Castelar Street #104 San Diego, California.

While going through all the court of common pleas records of Morristown NJ I found Doty, Doughty, Mott, all names that have connection with the Seaman family. One Doty was a Mayflower passenger I understand. Gershom Mott was a judge in Morris County for years. Jacob and Isaac Doty were found on these microfilms also. I believe the first time I saw them was in the 1760s. M Researching: Sparks of KY; Potter of NY; Oppenborn of FL; Tuphorn of Wisconsin; and Seaman of NJ. ---- Marilyn Steber 4464 Castelar Street #104 San Diego, California.

March of 1772 in Morris County New Jersey, Court of Common Pleas: Willet and Obediah Seamans (sic) sued Joseph Lewis for a debt. Another year Willet Seaman (no s) was sued, same court. Anyone have a clue about who Obediah was? He was over 21 and that's about all I can determine. He would have been born at least by 1751. I don't want to force anything, but it appears that David #148 in Mary Thomas Seaman's book had a lot of "lost children". Somebody writes that Bunker said David and Mary Willets had 15 children and only two were mentioned: David and Zebulon. Willets Seaman of Morristown had a son named David. But Who Is Obediah? Marilyn Researching: Sparks of KY; Potter of NY; Oppenborn of FL; Tuphorn of Wisconsin; and Seaman of NJ. ---- Marilyn Steber 4464 Castelar Street #104 San Diego, California.

Try these: http://www.rust.net/~gwjchris/ http://www.cwartillery.org/pastref.html http://www.sutlery.com/ http://www.ccsutlery.com/ http://www.s.g.marinos.simplenet.com http://homepages.dsu.edu/jankej/civilwar/sutlers.htm These are sites dealing with Civil War clothing, useless to most folks but nice reference stuff. Terry === Terry Wilson 40 S. Gamble Street Shelby, OH 44875 Researching: ALLEN, COLTMAN, EDMAN, FERRIS, HARLAN/HARLAND, HOLLENBAUGH, HORNER, JANNY/JANNEY/JENNING, KELLER, KLINKLE, KRUNK/CRUNK/CRONK,MARING/MEARING, MAY, McCORMIC/McCORMICK, SEAMAN, SHOMO, SIFFERLIN, TOUSLEY/TOSELEY, & WILSON _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

-----Original Message----- From: R Agee <RAGEE1@prodigy.net> To: SEAMAN-L@rootsweb.com <SEAMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 10:03 PM Subject: [SEAMAN-L] Seaman Family >Hi everyone; > >I am new to the list. I am researching a Seaman family line. My great >grandfather Isaac was born in Russia. I do not know what his Russian name >was. He was born approximately 1860 and he was married to Hanna Yarrow. >They settled in Pennsylvania and had many children. > >If anyone has information I would appreciate hearing from you. > >Roien Janet Chiocchi has a web page with a lot of German SEAMAN family members from Eastern Pennsylvania. Her web page is: http://pages.prodigy.net/janetch/ There is an English SEAMAN line that is centered around Washington County in Western Pennsylvania. Sharon Hagler is working on those family members but I do not believe there is a web page yet. HAPPY HUNTING! Jim Rubins Napa, CA

Hi everyone; I am new to the list. I am researching a Seaman family line. My great grandfather Isaac was born in Russia. I do not know what his Russian name was. He was born approximately 1860 and he was married to Hanna Yarrow. They settled in Pennsylvania and had many children. If anyone has information I would appreciate hearing from you. Roien

Nothing in particular, just a group of sites you might like to look at. Terry ------------- Genealogical Research at The New York Public Library http://www.nypl.org/research/chss/lhg/research.html MAPS OF ALL STATES http://avstar.ivs.com/html/MapCoverage/index.asp Census State Data Centers http://ftp.census.gov/sdc/www/ U.S. Federal Census Microfilm Catalog http://www.genealogy-mall.com/ny1800.htm New York Books for sale http://lostintime.radix.net/catalog/books/bookst/bo22000.htm 1790-1840 Census Schedules http://gopher.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/census/1790-1890/part2.html NEW YORK FEDERAL CENSUSES: INDEXES AND OTHER FINDING AIDS http://www.nygbs.org/article.htm The Political Graveyard http://www.potifos.com/tpg/geo/NY/WE.html International Census Collection http://www.lib.utexas.edu/Libs/PCL/icc/north-america/usa.html NYGenExchange 1800 Census Search http://www.genexchange.com/ny/NY1800Search.CFM Sites with Genealogical Source Material http://freespace.virgin.net/alan.tupman/sites/us_l-o.htm#ny Census Index Records for selected CT & NJ counties http://www.altlaw.com/edball/census.htm Census Records For Meigs County, Ohio http://genealogy.emcee.com/~baf/census/census.html 1850 "Living/Working" Census of Newton County, Texas http://www.rootsweb.com/~txnewton/census/1850/ndex1850.htm Stewart County, Tennessee Selected Genealogical Extracts http://www.nashville.net/~scaevola/stewco.htm NEW YORK STATE CENSUS MICROFILMS IN THE NYG&BS LIBRARY http://www.nygbs.org/nystatecensuses.htm Eastern North Carolina and Eastern South Carolina http://www.martygrant.com/gen/floyd/floydcen.htm Welcome To Monroe County Iowa http://www.rootsweb.com/~iamonroe/index.html Deseret Census Service U.S. Federal Census Records: http://www.genealogy-mall.com/censrecs.htm === Terry Wilson 40 S. Gamble Street Shelby, OH 44875 Researching: ALLEN, COLTMAN, EDMAN, FERRIS, HARLAN/HARLAND, HOLLENBAUGH, HORNER, JANNY/JANNEY/JENNING, KELLER, KLINKLE, KRUNK/CRUNK/CRONK,MARING/MEARING, MAY, McCORMIC/McCORMICK, SEAMAN, SHOMO, SIFFERLIN, TOUSLEY/TOSELEY, & WILSON _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com